What the f*ck, I told you not to message me again.

I've been climbing for about a year now and consider climbing a large part of my life. However, every time I tell a girl that I'm a climber, they usually respond with a "yeah, that's cool" and then go on to talk about themselves and what-not. Do girls not consider climbers to be badass enough to get with? I guarantee you that if I told a girl that I ride a crotch rocket they'd instantly become wet with anticipation. Anyone else experienced this sort of situation?

Oh ****

damn I gotta write down your names or something

Yes indeed, I thought sev's contribution was particularly amusing, I had too check that his nick wasn't subtle..

That one about barechested climbers in the gym was good too though..

I couldn't agree more. Since you, sev, seem to be the expert here, I have a question for you.

I don't have a trad rack. Will a big, thick crash-pad full of crap suffice? I'm talking like 5 pairs of shoes, 2 chalk pots, a half dozen brushes, 2 and 1/2 rolls of tape, six-pack of PBR (tallboys of course), 2 red bulls, sandwiches, 1 and 1/2 packs of smokes, and a quarter of chronic.

Of course the shirtless climbing still applies; but do we get extra points with the ladies for wearing a beanie while climbing shirtless? Also, what is the limit on the number of pads and spotters under which the ladies will still flock?

Yes, if they climb. No, if they don't climb. BUT, buy them cool clothes at REI, and they're all yours!!

Wow...I have gotten into rockclimbing for the sport, but the guys are not so bad either. I rather have a guy who has a nice muscle toned body than be over muscle on the chest and puny legs. Climber guys are very loving, sharing, caring, and brutally honest. I know I turned on my regular climbing partner and his friends on when I was freezing my A** off outside, for I tough it out. He said most girls would have complain and go home. The other girl that was on this trip did that. I did complain, but so were the guys about the weather. This climbing trip was most memorable. Also the fact no one showered for 4 days. That was the other argument from the girl who left. The environment is harsh deal with it, but if I was asked out by a guy who thought climbing was lame or stupid, he would not get anywhere. "Hey lameO asked them girly girls out instead of me."

I have actually found it difficult to not talk about climbing sometimes, so I don't know where this whole "climbing is boring" thing is coming from. In fact, I try to not even bring it up at work because I know people (guys and girls) are always going to ask me about it... ...In short, it must be your approach.

\Find a chick who's in to competitive triathalons, or mountain biking, or...or something that keeps them as busy as your climbing keeps you.

So you better have something else going for you.

And trust me they can sense a lil boy drooling a mile away... and your done before you even get started ...

Oh ****

damn I gotta write down your names or something

I have spent a considerable amount of time trying to decipher this message. I haven't gotten very far despite the time I invested in the endeavor. Maybe you can help by further explaining some of the more complex points that seem to be shooting straight over my head.

Take this sentence, for example: "Climber guys are very loving, sharing, caring, and brutally honest."

What I gather from this is that climber guys are dirty hippies who will say whatever needs to be said in order to secure a belay bitch for the day. Can you confirm/deny?


Next, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here: I know I turned on my regular climbing partner and his friends on when I was freezing my A** off outside, for I tough it out.

Your climbing partner wants to get in your tent (if you catch my drift) by complementing your ability to "tough it out" when the weather gets rough? Do you have any evidence to support this claim, or is it purely anecdotal? In other words, how do we know they were really turned on, and you weren't just misinterpreting what they were trying to say? Please clarify.


The following is where I start to lose grasp of the meaning of the entire message: I did complain, but so were the guys about the weather.

As per your own claims earlier in the message, you "tough it out." Do you tough it out, or do you complain? This seems contradictory, but I may just be missing the point, since the whole thing is so convoluted, I have a hard time understanding it. Do you have the ability to tough it out? This sentence certainly disagrees. Furthermore, the guys complained as well! We can go back and modify the original hypothesis of "climber guys are dirty hippies who will say whatever needs to be said in order to secure a belay bitch for the day" to include information about climber guys being pussies who complain as much as the token female.

Everything after that becomes a muddled mess. You go off on a tangent about not showering, and the environment. Then you come around and again assert that you are NOT a girly girl, but the sentence previously presented clearly disagrees with that. I, as I'm sure the rest of the community, would greatly appreciate it if you could provide some additional information that we can use to better understand your nonsensical drivel. In addition to that, could you tell us what it is, exactly, that you're trying to convey through your message?

Thanks for your time.

I have spent very little time trying to decipher this message. Maybe you can help me understand some of you more asinine points. Its obvious that your striving to be a huge dick but what I am struggling with is the, why of it all.

I'm sure the rest of the community couldnt care less about your nonsensical drivel but perhaps you could explain to us what exactly you are trying to convey through your message anyway.

Thanks for wasting mine and everyone elses time.

Which points in particular did you find hard to understand? You have to let me know if you want me to elaborate on them. This is one of those help me help you situations.

Obviously your having trouble with this so I will rephrase.

Why you be big asshole for no good reason?

Maybe you can help me understand some of you more asinine points.

When you complete your reading assignment, you can report back to me via private message, or in this thread. We can discuss the finer points further and in more detail if you wish, but only after you have read the aforementioned pieces of literature.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I saw this:


and I assumed you weren't understanding something I was trying to say. Surely you can understand my mistake, since you did say "points", yes? I can see that you did not bother reading the suggested literature, so I will try to clarify some things.

First, we need to look at the definition of a point. A quick look at dictionary.com provides us with this:

A significant, outstanding, or effective idea, argument, or suggestion

As you can see... well, apparently you have trouble seeing this, but take my word for it, I did not make any points in my post. I was simply trying to interpret the message, and I asked some questions to help me along.

Your latest question, however, makes the false assumption that I'm trying to do anything but gain further clarification of a message I can't quite understand. I would say that you're looking for the reason behind my message, rather than trying to understand the nonexistent points that I was not making. The only part of that post that can be construed as a point is the hypothetical theory that climbers are dirty hippies. Even then, that's simply my attempt at extrapolating some sort of coherent meaning from a seemingly random jumble of thoughts.

Does this make sense to you? You did not phrase your question right. You need to understand the subject matter before you can simply march in the middle of it and start asking questions, like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know what's going on.

I hope you can see things a little better now. Let me know if I need to explain anything further, I know how frustrating it can be to communicate by means as disconnected and emotionless as the information super highway. Sometimes you just can't get your meaning through.