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brent_e
Nov 18, 2008, 3:36 PM
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kimgraves wrote: sungam wrote: Those looks nice. Really nice. Are they durable? They seem to be. It's a sock though. Even if you go though one pair a season that's still good.
thanks for the info. I might try those. I seem to always have issues with my feet.
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climbingaggie03
Nov 18, 2008, 7:11 PM
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qwert wrote: Any ideas how to keep my feet warm? And second: the socks. Any ideas here? so far i use woolen socks, often even two pairs, but it doesnt really work that good. One reason for this i would guess is the fact that the wool gets pressed rather flat from walking and sweating, and therefore cant hold much insulating air. qwert
So if your feet are sweating, that says to me that your feet are too hot and you should wear less socks and make sure that your feet can breathe, if you can keep them dry, they'll probably stay warm
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graniteboy
Nov 18, 2008, 7:55 PM
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Three Words:
Vapor Barrier Sox.
Keeping Frostbite and amputated toes at bay in the Alaska Range and Antarctica for over 40 years.
And BTW, some of my favorite ARHs (Alaska Range Hardmen) use Bread bags as VB liners over a thin poly or silk sock. Disposable, and cost about 36$ less than the aforementioned Techno-gizmosox. And you can carry your Rice in them for the first week until you finish eating that bag of food and need some new "sox".
(This post was edited by graniteboy on Nov 18, 2008, 8:00 PM)
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shimanilami
Nov 18, 2008, 9:03 PM
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sungam wrote: Make sure yer legz r warm- warmer blood getting to the feets.
I'll second that. I often won't notice that my legs are cold (fewer nerves there, perhaps?) until my feet start getting cold. It's hard to keep your feet warm if your legs aren't.
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graniteboy
Nov 19, 2008, 12:15 AM
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As an addendum...if your feet are still cold when you are using the 3 part system of
a) thin liner sock
b) Vapor barrier
c) dry wool sock
and you don't wanna spnd 700 bucks on some new Uber-Bootz....
then you should consider the simple truth that insulation outside the boot is alot cheaper and more modular to add to the system than insulation inside the boot. Buy or make some overboots, supergaiters, whatever, that have room for you to put more closed cel foam into. I had an old pair of OR overboots that I'd add a full inch of closed cel to for summit days on Denali. On any given summit day, I guarantee I had the biggest looking boots and warmest frikkin feet on that mountain. Also, consider putting a radiant heat barrier material (= a space blanket for us cheap bastards) under your insoles. glue it in so it doesn't slide around on you.
If all this stuff fails, then consider my first post on this topic: the noble Hotspring.
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memorex15
Dec 1, 2008, 6:38 PM
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here is an item that will keep your feet warm my brother has this and loves it
http://www.humanedgetech.com/shop/product.php?productid=166&cat=17&page=1
i accually was putting grocery bags over my socks in my boots and it kept my feet dry but also keep some warmth too
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sungam
Dec 1, 2008, 9:24 PM
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erm... Expensive much?
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Alpinisto
Dec 1, 2008, 9:34 PM
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reno wrote: 1. I've seen lots of folks make the mistake of "over filling" the space in the boot. Two pairs of thick wool socks, for example. If you do this, you've put compression on the foot (foot + socks + more socks + padding in boot in a fixed space = compression.) That will reduce blood flow, and thus make your feet cold. I'd suggest, instead, a thin layer sock under a mid/mid-heavy wool sock. Make sure your foot has space, and isn't crammed in tight.
^^^This iz korrekt.
I have a pair of Asolo AFS Guidas (double plastics). My standard winter footwear is: thin polypro liner, DirtbagVBL(tm) -- a.k.a. double bread bags on each foot -- and then a mid-weight Smartwool insulating sock. Works killer.
One time I knew I'd be out for an extended daytrip in sub-zero temps, so I swapped out the mid-weight insulating sock for a heavyweight one. Result? Cold feet!
The thicker heavyweight sock took up more room in the boot, both reducing dead air space and causing compression/lesser circulation. Turns out the mid-weight socks end up being warmer.
Iz troo...
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rockie
Dec 1, 2008, 9:58 PM
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I've worn socks, and seen others that have too, not commonly but, it works.
Sorry, meant to say, 1 pair of socks.
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gunkiemike
Dec 2, 2008, 2:52 AM
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Alpinisto wrote: One time I knew I'd be out for an extended daytrip in sub-zero temps, so I swapped out the mid-weight insulating sock for a heavyweight one. Result? Cold feet!
I agree woth your overall point, but this experience (above) means nothing. It could have been that your feet were colder than normal because
wait for it
the temperature was colder than normal!
But again, we don't disagree that there is an optimum amount of sock, and more = NOT better.
Me? I put overboots on when the temp is single digits F.
I'd also suggest that lightly insulated legs can contribute to cold toes. Those $280 Shoeller pants may be da bomb fashion-wise, but fleece and a hard shell pant might be warmer when you're motionless for an hour.
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