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acorneau
Apr 15, 2009, 6:46 PM
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Best line of the whole story:
In reply to: There should be no duty to explain the obvious to a consenting adult.
I wish the US court system worked like that!
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ski.ninja
Apr 20, 2009, 7:54 AM
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In reply to: The keen cyclist, who worked out regularly with weights, was "bouldering" on the climbing wall when he fell as he attempted a challenging jump towards a grab bar, somersaulting in the air and landing on his head.
I read this last line and felt my sympathy towards the man disappear. Then I thought to myself "Why should the fact that the man was showing off have any impact on the seriousness of his injury?" It is tragic that anyone suffer so seriously for such a brief lapse in judgment or concentration. Then I thought "Who would put a 'grab bar' on a bouldering course?" Just curious.
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eastvillage
Apr 20, 2009, 11:33 AM
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Climbing gyms do bring people to the sport who would otherwise never interface with the vertical environment, people who may not be really that interested in climbing - or treat the environment appropriately - like not trying a back flip. You see the result of the gym mentality at the cliffs all the time.
It's terrible this young guy was paralyzed; this could happen to any climber, but I'm glad the case thrown out.
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reg
Apr 20, 2009, 1:46 PM
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feel badly for mr. popelton, but thank the lord for his common sense decision
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shockabuku
Apr 20, 2009, 1:53 PM
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acorneau wrote: Best line of the whole story: In reply to: There should be no duty to explain the obvious to a consenting adult.I wish the US court system worked like that!
This line can't be reiterated enough.
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AltitudeJunkie
May 27, 2009, 7:28 PM
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wow. the gym i work in, we have to tell people, "climbing is inherently dangerous" both when they fill out a waiver acknowledging that, and when we give them an orientation to the gym.
in that orientation, among the things covered are:
-climbing is inherently dangerous.
-you MUST use a crashpad at all times.
-we highly encourage the use of a spotter.
-spotter can get hurt, and doesn't guarantee that the climber wont get hurt.
-a spotters job isn't to catch the climber.
-bouldering is more dangerous than roped climbing in the sense that if you fall you WILL hit the ground.
-don't stack/overlap the crash pads. it increases the risk of getting injured.
we even have signs by the auto belay routes, one at the bottom of the route that says: ARE YOU CLIPPED IN? and one about 15 feet off the ground: ARE YOU STILL CLIPPED IN? because some guy either tried to free solo the wall or legitimately forgot to clip in, and fell from 18 feet.
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JasonsDrivingForce
May 29, 2009, 5:48 PM
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acorneau wrote: Best line of the whole story: There should be no duty to explain the obvious to a consenting adult.
I just wish parents had to take a test before having kids. Because those "consenting adults" are acting on behalf of their children.
It is fine to say you are old enough to take your own life into your hands. However, age has nothing to do with whether you are qualified to take a child's life in your hands.
It totally freaks me out to see my son try the moves he does. However, I can't stop him. I know he will just try the moves without a spotter then.
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