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rainman0915


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this is to settle a disagreement, just how dangerous is deep water free soloing?


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super dangerous. You're gonna diez!11one!

Haha. not very.


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60 percent of the time, you die every time


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rainman0915 wrote:
this is to settle a disagreement, just how dangerous is deep water free soloing?

Depends on the height you climb to and how deep the water is.
Ever belly flop of the high board?
How about a 10 meter platform?


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Depends completely on the situation.
If it's a sweeping overhang over deep, calm, warm water then the danger is minimal, especially if you have a boat/rescuers ready in case of a fuckup. Being a strong swimmer helps.
Colder water, shallower water/water with obstructions, less steep rock, and more violent waves all make it more dangerous.
Also, beware of jellyfish... First hand experiance right here - it doesn't feel good.


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Depends on a lot of things. Generally it is a pretty safe activity. Is it as safe as sport climbing or bouldering... probably not. But then, how safe is sport climbing?

The real answer depends on A LOT of variables. Not quite as simple as free soloing.

BTW, it's called Deep Water Solo... not Deep Water Free Solo.


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I was hoping to solo up the side of Antarctica. Thinking of riding a boat to the base of some ice cliff and soloing up :]. No crampons. I swimz super strong.


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rtwilli4 wrote:
BTW, it's called Deep Water Solo... not Deep Water Free Solo.
I think that was differentiate from the up and coming sport of deep water aid soloing.

^begs for pikterz, plz someone take some.


whippersnapper


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sungam wrote:
I think that was differentiate from the up and coming sport of deep water aid soloing.

Well they say that the tallest mountains in the world are underwater...


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For me, I am a chicken heart when it comes to DWS. I know that hitting the water from a great height will hurt and could cause injury.

It is as dangerous as bouldering without a pad, something I did long before there were pads. At least penetrating the water is more comfortable than penetrating the ground.


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thank you all for helping me win the argument Cool you have been very helpfull


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Hey, Ya gotta die sometime


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sungam wrote:
Colder water, shallower water/water with obstructions, less steep rock, and more violent waves all make it more dangerous.

Deep water soloing, not shallow water soloing Wink.


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all depends or you're darwin index


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sonso45 wrote:


It is as dangerous as bouldering without a pad, something I did long before there were pads. At least penetrating the water is more comfortable than penetrating the ground.

I agree about the penetration.


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Mastertater wrote:
sonso45 wrote:


It is as dangerous as bouldering without a pad, something I did long before there were pads. At least penetrating the water is more comfortable than penetrating the ground.

I agree about the penetration.

I've always really enjoyed penetration. It's always felt... well... orgasmic


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malcolm777b wrote:
sungam wrote:
Colder water, shallower water/water with obstructions, less steep rock, and more violent waves all make it more dangerous.

Deep water soloing, not shallow water soloing Wink.
You'd be surprised at how deep you can go, it doesn't have to be all that shallow.


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cjon3s wrote:
I was hoping to solo up the side of Antarctica. Thinking of riding a boat to the base of some ice cliff and soloing up :]. No crampons. I swimz super strong.

You wouldn't be the first.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/...weberg_streaming.mov


scottek67


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I think it's safe unless the sharks are hungry...Unimpressed


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DWS should be safe. The problem lies with those who are unfamiliar with the environment. People who have never cliff jumped head out and DWS to 60' or even higher then jump off because "it's just water." BOOM! Back injury! Watched this one happen, and was one of the people diving in and swimming as fast as I could to save the woman from drowning. People can get complacent with the environment and their perceived risk does not match the true danger. Therein lies the threat, if you ask me. If people have cliff jumped, know how to enter the water, and can control how they fall it is much safer. Personally, having hurt my knee cliff jumping when I was younger I have respect for a watery impact. I wasn't going above 50' or so and height made me quite happy.

Josh


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