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gmggg
Jan 15, 2010, 1:50 AM
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It's not so easy. You have to write a book first.
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climbingtrash
Jan 15, 2010, 3:12 AM
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Hum...maybe I could sell them my snazzy little slogan as the title for the flick...
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chadnsc
Jan 15, 2010, 6:49 PM
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Not to speak ill of the one handed but I had a chance meeting with Mr. Ralston about three - four years ago at an after party for a local adventure race.
I had been at the party for about 15 minutes when I spotted Ralston. Ralston looked tired from competing in the race and appeared a bit drunk so when he walked up to me out of the blue and said " Fuck you loser! I can climb better than you one handed" I brushed it off. Then I realized he was being serious so I asked Ralston; 'didn't you used to be right handed?".
Ralston spent the rest of the night explaining to women how lesser people would have simply rolled over and died, but not him.
The whole experience was bit odd because it seemed so out of character for Ralston.
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lena_chita
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Jan 15, 2010, 7:16 PM
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I read the book, and I think it would make a pretty dull movie.
I mean, pissing into the nalgene and drinking it doesn't really make for action-packed adventure film, and you can only milk the arm-hacking and one-armed rapelling for so long...
But from the tone of your post I wonder, do you have anything against Ralston?
Did he piss you off by anything other than getting a book deal? Book deals sort-of come with the territory these days. Almost-die on Everest => write a book. Almost-win the vice-presidency= > write a book. And so on.
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rockforlife
Jan 15, 2010, 7:18 PM
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You know what the worst part of this it?
Every non climber friend and family member is going to be asking about it.
"Hey so i hear they are making a film about that climber... you going to go see it"
"....ummm..."
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markc
Jan 15, 2010, 8:46 PM
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I've not read the book, so my knowledge of Aron Ralston's experience is limited. I'm enough of a realist to know that the dramatic manner in which he escaped is the primary factor in securing a book/movie deal, regardless of the fact that his own shortsightedness put him there. That's the only reason I find it a bit irksome.
It requires a certain type of person to cut their own arm off. That said, five days pinned in a canyon may go a long way to get you there. Thankfully, that's not something most people will ever have to find out.
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ClimbClimb
Jan 15, 2010, 8:51 PM
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I don't know, it seems like a significant accomplishment of fitness & toughness. As with all high-risk activities that go wrong (climbing included), I am not sure either the initial risk-taking or the subsequent glorification take anything away from the accomplishment of surviving.
As for the example of Everest, fwiw, Krakauer is apparently a very accomplished climber and still leading 5.11's & 12's in his 50's.
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kachoong
Jan 15, 2010, 8:54 PM
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I wonder if he's ever considered returning to retrieve his hand bones...
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edge
Jan 15, 2010, 8:59 PM
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acorneau wrote: lena_chita wrote: But from the tone of your post I wonder, do you have anything against Ralston? No, nothing like that, just passing along the info. Honestly, though, people do stupid stuff everyday and people do incredibly heroic things every day. Who makes a movie about them? 
This is true. I think severing your own limb is much more common a scenario among loggers and farmers.
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edge wrote: acorneau wrote: lena_chita wrote: But from the tone of your post I wonder, do you have anything against Ralston? No, nothing like that, just passing along the info. Honestly, though, people do stupid stuff everyday and people do incredibly heroic things every day. Who makes a movie about them? This is true. I think severing your own limb is much more common a scenario among loggers and farmers.
The guy was using his chainsaw as a gas powered machete cutting down the smaller trees around the big cedars and spruce of the west coast. As he was working on top of a recently fallen tree of about 2m in diameter he reached over and cut one of the little trees leaving a 1.5m post with a pointed top. After turning around to get on with things he lost his balance and fell on the the post. It went through his anus up to his spinal column leaving his toes just touching the ground. He managed to start his saw again, cut himself free without amputating his legs or further impaling himself and then walked 100m up to the logging road. While waiting for the helicopter he had already earned the nickname 'fudgesickle'.
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climbingtrash
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hafilax wrote: edge wrote: acorneau wrote: lena_chita wrote: But from the tone of your post I wonder, do you have anything against Ralston? No, nothing like that, just passing along the info. Honestly, though, people do stupid stuff everyday and people do incredibly heroic things every day. Who makes a movie about them? This is true. I think severing your own limb is much more common a scenario among loggers and farmers. I just finished reading The Golden Spruce and there is one logger accident anecdote that serves as a good example. The guy was using his chainsaw as a gas powered machete cutting down the smaller trees around the big cedars and spruce of the west coast. As he was working on top of a recently fallen tree of about 2m in diameter he reached over and cut one of the little trees leaving a 1.5m post with a pointed top. After turning around to get on with things he lost his balance and fell on the the post. It went through his anus up to his spinal column leaving his toes just touching the ground. He managed to start his saw again, cut himself free without amputating his legs or further impaling himself and then walked 100m up to the logging road. While waiting for the helicopter he had already earned the nickname 'fudgesickle'.
GNARLY!
I saw a news reporter, in Utah I believe, interviewing a good-ol-boy who cut his own leg of with a chainsaw after it got pinned by a tree he had dropped. The good-ol-boy didn't wait no 5 days either. He was alone and after struggling for a while he quickly came to the conclusion he had to free himself. When the reporter asked him what he thought about Aaron Ralston his reply was-Why'd he wait so long.
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ClimbingKarma
Jan 16, 2010, 3:41 AM
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He may of got him self in that situation and not telling anybody where he was going to climb was stupid, but I've got to give him credit for staying alive for the initial wound had to be bad plus cutting off part of limb damn it had to hurt like hell . I imagine its the kind of pain that would cause most people to pass out .
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Jan 16, 2010, 5:41 AM
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i imagine after 5 days pined above his head his arm was pretty numb...
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rschap
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climbingtrash wrote: Hum...maybe I could sell them my snazzy little slogan as the title for the flick... [image]http://climbingtrash.com/climbingtrashAmputee2origin.gif[/image]
I've got to get a shirt with that on it.
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theguy
Jan 16, 2010, 5:18 PM
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rschap wrote: climbingtrash wrote: Hum...maybe I could sell them my snazzy little slogan as the title for the flick... [image]http://climbingtrash.com/climbingtrashAmputee2origin.gif[/image] I've got to get a shirt with that on it.
Why tell us? Just select your size, color, and press the "add to cart" button at Team Trash Tees.
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climbingtrash
Jan 16, 2010, 5:33 PM
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rschap wrote: climbingtrash wrote: Hum...maybe I could sell them my snazzy little slogan as the title for the flick... [image]http://climbingtrash.com/climbingtrashAmputee2origin.gif[/image] I've got to get a shirt with that on it.
PC+1
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jcrew
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kachoong wrote: I wonder if he's ever considered returning to retrieve his hand bones...
they had a dateline or something about it, aaron and tom brokow went cruising back to the scene..... anyway, i think they said his friends went back and buried the hand.
also, aaron stated that his hand wasn't just "numb" but actually putrid and decaying, off-gassing and oozing decomposition fluids.
(This post was edited by jcrew on Jan 16, 2010, 7:03 PM)
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jcrew
Jan 16, 2010, 7:09 PM
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chadnsc wrote: Ralston spent the rest of the night ......women ......lesser people ..... The whole experience was bit odd because it seemed so out of character for Ralston.
you answered your own question! no diss on aaron, no shame in the game. what guy here hasn't sprayed?
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chadnsc
Jan 17, 2010, 10:07 PM
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jcrew wrote: chadnsc wrote: Ralston spent the rest of the night ......women ......lesser people ..... The whole experience was bit odd because it seemed so out of character for Ralston. you answered your own question! no diss on aaron, no shame in the game. what guy here hasn't sprayed?
True I suppose; but Ralston went around promoting himself in both print and speeches (I heard him speak the day before the race) as being rather ordinary man who simply found the courage to live. It was a bit of shocker when the next day his behavior completely contradicted what he was selling himself to be.
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bustloose
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you need to make a distinction between "who here hasn't sprayed" and "has anyone here, ever, sprayed on the level to which Ralston has"
i read the book, it sucked. In my humble, but opinionated opinion, he was an idiot, and it finally caught up to him. endless winter solo ascents in the mountains, often not telling anyone where he was going? really?
terrible tragedy, blah blah blah. wrote a terrible book, blah blah blah, making a terrible movie, hopefully that will be the end of it.
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jumpingrock
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I think Ralston is an idiot. He fucked up big time is lucky to be alive and has milked his idiocy to become rather wealthy.
However, the movie was incredibly well done and is actually worth watching. The question is whether or not the humility and personal reflection that is portrayed in movie is an accurate reflection of Ralston. But in a way it doesn't matter because the movie is about finding a way to survive a very difficult situation.
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styndall
Jan 29, 2011, 7:04 PM
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Calling him an idiot is pretty harsh and unnecessary. Who hasn't gone out alone somewhere hard to get to?
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jumpingrock
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Sorry, you're right. His choice at that point was very idiotic. I(and everybody else) have made many idiotic choices in our lives; most don't lead to negative consequences. His did. Some of mine have. I've been an idiot more times than I care to remember.
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