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robbovius
Feb 18, 2010, 6:13 PM
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taydude wrote: So now there are going to be 2 companies producing shitty beginner shoes? SICK!
you're their target demographic
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gosharks
Feb 18, 2010, 10:25 PM
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taydude wrote: So now there are going to be 2 companies producing shitty beginner shoes? SICK!
I'm no beginner.
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Adk
Feb 19, 2010, 1:01 AM
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madrockclimbing wrote: Customer Alert!!! Mad Rock Climbing is issuing a customer alert for Climb X products. Climb X products are an imitation made with the intention to deceive the consumer into believing it to be genuine Mad Rock products. Mad Rock and its parent company Nelson Sports Inc. has no affiliation with Climb X or its products, which violates numerous patent and copyright laws. We encourage any customers who have been approached by Climb X to contact us immediately. For further information please contact Kenny Suh at Kenny@madrockclimbing or call 562-944-8081
So are you saying that there will NO Climb X shoes and that if they sell shoes they will say Mad Rock?
Or are they copies of Mad shoes? In that case I'm good with copies. Companies do it all the time and it make it a better market. Ya see. This brings on new products that hopefully crush the competition.
If this is the case, from what I hear, Mad Rock has a lot of work to do. Only time will tell....
Thanks for the heads up!
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Rudmin
Feb 19, 2010, 2:15 AM
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madrockclimbing wrote: ... Or just read it here. PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Mad Rock Sheds Some Weight and Passes Savings on to Customers ...
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caughtinside
Feb 19, 2010, 2:39 AM
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IndustryGuy wrote: The logistics of relocating the offices and DC are geared for quicker access to the merchandise for North American dealers, and paves the way for a deeper pool of qualified candidates for office staff. The Las Vegas DC has the benefit of being one shipping day closer to eastern customers, while giving identical ship times to all western accounts as Mad Rock's Orange County distribution center. As before, staffing will go to individuals with relevant climbing, outdoor and strong customer service experience; attributes that were hard to come by in the Los Angeles area, with its comparative lack of outdoor activities and quality of life issues that made it difficult to find and retain qualified candidates. ###
I like how he calls LA a shithole. No real climbers there to work for him for minimum wage, thank god he's taking over the China plant!
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gmggg
Feb 19, 2010, 3:51 AM
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Adk wrote: madrockclimbing wrote: Customer Alert!!! Mad Rock Climbing is issuing a customer alert for Climb X products. Climb X products are an imitation made with the intention to deceive the consumer into believing it to be genuine Mad Rock products. Mad Rock and its parent company Nelson Sports Inc. has no affiliation with Climb X or its products, which violates numerous patent and copyright laws. We encourage any customers who have been approached by Climb X to contact us immediately. For further information please contact Kenny Suh at Kenny@madrockclimbing or call 562-944-8081 So are you saying that there will NO Climb X shoes and that if they sell shoes they will say Mad Rock? Or are they copies of Mad shoes? In that case I'm good with copies. Companies do it all the time and it make it a better market. Ya see. This brings on new products that hopefully crush the competition. If this is the case, from what I hear, Mad Rock has a lot of work to do. Only time will tell.... Thanks for the heads up!
Is this supposed to be incomprehensible or just plain retarded?
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johnwesely
Feb 19, 2010, 4:06 AM
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gmggg wrote: Adk wrote: madrockclimbing wrote: Customer Alert!!! Mad Rock Climbing is issuing a customer alert for Climb X products. Climb X products are an imitation made with the intention to deceive the consumer into believing it to be genuine Mad Rock products. Mad Rock and its parent company Nelson Sports Inc. has no affiliation with Climb X or its products, which violates numerous patent and copyright laws. We encourage any customers who have been approached by Climb X to contact us immediately. For further information please contact Kenny Suh at Kenny@madrockclimbing or call 562-944-8081 So are you saying that there will NO Climb X shoes and that if they sell shoes they will say Mad Rock? Or are they copies of Mad shoes? In that case I'm good with copies. Companies do it all the time and it make it a better market. Ya see. This brings on new products that hopefully crush the competition. If this is the case, from what I hear, Mad Rock has a lot of work to do. Only time will tell.... Thanks for the heads up! Is this supposed to be incomprehensible or just plain retarded?
Why are those mutually exclusive?
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quiteatingmysteak
Feb 19, 2010, 4:50 AM
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madrockclimbing wrote: Customer Alert!!! quiteatingmysteak is issuing a customer alert for Mad Rock products. Mad Rock products are an imitation made with the intention to deceive the consumer into believing it to be genuine climbing gear.....
hehehe... just kiddin'
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quiteatingmysteak
Feb 19, 2010, 4:52 AM
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gosharks wrote: taydude wrote: So now there are going to be 2 companies producing shitty beginner shoes? SICK! I love Mad Rock shoes, the Flash specifically. My current pair is going on 1.5 years at 2-3 times a week. I'm no beginner.
I'm no beginner, but I am shitty.
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guangzhou
Feb 19, 2010, 4:55 AM
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Mad Rock shoes aren't to bad. Being in Vietnam might even lower the price more, so that will be nice.
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curt
Feb 19, 2010, 5:03 AM
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caughtinside wrote: IndustryGuy wrote: The logistics of relocating the offices and DC are geared for quicker access to the merchandise for North American dealers, and paves the way for a deeper pool of qualified candidates for office staff. The Las Vegas DC has the benefit of being one shipping day closer to eastern customers, while giving identical ship times to all western accounts as Mad Rock's Orange County distribution center. As before, staffing will go to individuals with relevant climbing, outdoor and strong customer service experience; attributes that were hard to come by in the Los Angeles area, with its comparative lack of outdoor activities and quality of life issues that made it difficult to find and retain qualified candidates. ### I like how he calls LA a shithole...
Yeah, no need to state the obvious.
Curt
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mojomonkey
Feb 19, 2010, 12:54 PM
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so IndustryGuy = Joe Garland?
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Adk
Feb 19, 2010, 2:01 PM
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johnwesely wrote: gmggg wrote: Adk wrote: madrockclimbing wrote: Customer Alert!!! Mad Rock Climbing is issuing a customer alert for Climb X products. Climb X products are an imitation made with the intention to deceive the consumer into believing it to be genuine Mad Rock products. Mad Rock and its parent company Nelson Sports Inc. has no affiliation with Climb X or its products, which violates numerous patent and copyright laws. We encourage any customers who have been approached by Climb X to contact us immediately. For further information please contact Kenny Suh at Kenny@madrockclimbing or call 562-944-8081 So are you saying that there will NO Climb X shoes and that if they sell shoes they will say Mad Rock? Or are they copies of Mad shoes? In that case I'm good with copies. Companies do it all the time and it make it a better market. Ya see. This brings on new products that hopefully crush the competition. If this is the case, from what I hear, Mad Rock has a lot of work to do. Only time will tell.... Thanks for the heads up! Is this supposed to be incomprehensible or just plain retarded? Why are those mutually exclusive?
All three
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styndall
Feb 19, 2010, 3:19 PM
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curt wrote: caughtinside wrote: IndustryGuy wrote: The logistics of relocating the offices and DC are geared for quicker access to the merchandise for North American dealers, and paves the way for a deeper pool of qualified candidates for office staff. The Las Vegas DC has the benefit of being one shipping day closer to eastern customers, while giving identical ship times to all western accounts as Mad Rock's Orange County distribution center. As before, staffing will go to individuals with relevant climbing, outdoor and strong customer service experience; attributes that were hard to come by in the Los Angeles area, with its comparative lack of outdoor activities and quality of life issues that made it difficult to find and retain qualified candidates. ### I like how he calls LA a shithole... Yeah, no need to state the obvious. Curt
Hey, LA is quite nice* thank you very much.
*So long as you're north of Marina Del Rey and within two or three miles of the beach.**
**Venice boardwalk doesn't count unless you want velvet paintings or a medical mj prescription.
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madrockclimbing
Feb 19, 2010, 6:25 PM
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styndall wrote: curt wrote: caughtinside wrote: IndustryGuy wrote: The logistics of relocating the offices and DC are geared for quicker access to the merchandise for North American dealers, and paves the way for a deeper pool of qualified candidates for office staff. The Las Vegas DC has the benefit of being one shipping day closer to eastern customers, while giving identical ship times to all western accounts as Mad Rock's Orange County distribution center. As before, staffing will go to individuals with relevant climbing, outdoor and strong customer service experience; attributes that were hard to come by in the Los Angeles area, with its comparative lack of outdoor activities and quality of life issues that made it difficult to find and retain qualified candidates. ### I like how he calls LA a shithole... Yeah, no need to state the obvious. Curt Hey, LA is quite nice* thank you very much. *So long as you're north of Marina Del Rey and within two or three miles of the beach.** **Venice boardwalk doesn't count unless you want velvet paintings or a medical mj prescription.
Los Angeles area has plenty of good climbing or at least within a reasonable drive. I guarantee that half the office is out climbing somewhere every weekend.
Tahquitz/Suicide (birth of the YDS)-1.5 hrs
JTree-2 hrs.
Red Rocks/Mt. Charleston area-4 hrs
Bishop/Owens Gorge/Pine Creek/Mammoth-3.5 hrs
Whitney/East Sierras-3 hrs.
Yosemite-5 hrs.
Tramway- 1.5 hrs
Black Mnt.-2 hrs
Brickyards-1.5 hrs
Echo Cliffs-1hr
Rivesrside Quarry-1 hr
Malibu Creek-45 min
Horse Flats-45 min
NJC-1.5 hrs
El Cajon/Wooson/Corta madera-2 hrs.
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Feb 19, 2010, 7:04 PM
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curt wrote: caughtinside wrote: IndustryGuy wrote: The logistics of relocating the offices and DC are geared for quicker access to the merchandise for North American dealers, and paves the way for a deeper pool of qualified candidates for office staff. The Las Vegas DC has the benefit of being one shipping day closer to eastern customers, while giving identical ship times to all western accounts as Mad Rock's Orange County distribution center. As before, staffing will go to individuals with relevant climbing, outdoor and strong customer service experience; attributes that were hard to come by in the Los Angeles area, with its comparative lack of outdoor activities and quality of life issues that made it difficult to find and retain qualified candidates. ### I like how he calls LA a shithole... Yeah, no need to state the obvious. Curt
pots, kettles, etc
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cracklover
Feb 19, 2010, 8:06 PM
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This thread rocks!
And rc.com (with all the drama and half-truths that circulate here) is just the place for it to go down.
The company that was reputed to get its foundation by stealing from its parent and moving to China, now has its own offspring attempting to do the same. The irony is beautiful.
China is like the Wild West of manufacturing!
GO
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Feb 20, 2010, 5:59 AM
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cracklover wrote: China is like the Wild West East of manufacturing! GO
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johnwesely
Feb 20, 2010, 12:33 PM
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airscape wrote: cracklover wrote: China is like the Wild West East of manufacturing! GO
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Feb 20, 2010, 1:09 PM
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There's always been a lot of dubious gear heritage and fratricide in the business side of climbing, but I have to admit to being violently ambivalent about a bitch fight between two cheap Asian import operations.
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angry
Feb 20, 2010, 3:20 PM
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I've got a lot of Mad Rock gear, all of it shit.
Harness, weird leg loop sizing, pinches, waist belt frayed abnormally fast.
Haul Bag, thin, won't stand on it's own and the top won't stay open when filling.
Rope Bag, Buckles broke immediately, half the thickness and half the ground coverage of a name brand bag.
Rope, it's just fine but of course it's actually a Lanex.
Carabiners, light but with way too weak of a gate.
Belay device, so much friction as to be completely useless.
So someone is going to ruin their reputation? This is terrible.
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unrooted
Mar 15, 2010, 4:35 AM
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angry wrote: I've got a lot of Mad Rock gear, all of it shit. Harness, weird leg loop sizing, pinches, waist belt frayed abnormally fast. Haul Bag, thin, won't stand on it's own and the top won't stay open when filling. Rope Bag, Buckles broke immediately, half the thickness and half the ground coverage of a name brand bag. Rope, it's just fine but of course it's actually a Lanex. Carabiners, light but with way too weak of a gate. Belay device, so much friction as to be completely useless. So someone is going to ruin their reputation? This is terrible.
You liked their stuff when you were getting it for free.
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