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gojiclimber
Dec 11, 2011, 9:03 PM
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My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist). Taking days off of work here and there instead of saving them up for one longer trip, buying gear instead of replacing my broken phone, or paying the dentist. Trips out west instead of paying student loan debt.
Un(fortunately?), this behavior is typical of addicts.
Are these really signs of addiction?
Are you addicted to?
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Kartessa
Dec 11, 2011, 9:41 PM
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gojiclimber wrote: My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist). Taking days off of work here and there instead of saving them up for one longer trip, buying gear instead of replacing my broken phone, or paying the dentist. Trips out west instead of paying student loan debt. Un(fortunately?), this behavior is typical of addicts. Are these really signs of addiction? Are you addicted to?
I dunno... Does quitting my job to have more playtime count?
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notapplicable
Dec 11, 2011, 10:14 PM
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I wouldn't sweat it. If anything, you might consider employing a bit more hyperbolic discounting during your future mate selections.
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shockabuku
Dec 11, 2011, 11:14 PM
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gojiclimber wrote: My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist). Taking days off of work here and there instead of saving them up for one longer trip, buying gear instead of replacing my broken phone, or paying the dentist. Trips out west instead of paying student loan debt. Un(fortunately?), this behavior is typical of addicts. Are these really signs of addiction? Are you addicted to?
Why would you care?
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stagg54
Dec 11, 2011, 11:24 PM
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ditch the girl.
with all the money you save, you can buy more gear.
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tH1e-swiN1e
Dec 12, 2011, 12:44 AM
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sounds like your girl is lame, brah.
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sungam
Dec 12, 2011, 9:29 AM
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Everyone is lying, don't ditch the girl. Seriouesly, bro. Anyone who has the patience to sit through an econ degree, which may well be the single most boring and bordom-capacity testing subject out there, will totally have the patience to put up with you going on climbing trips etc. Not a lot of girls will.
Though I'm pretty sure buying shit you want instead of paying for shit you should is typical of, like, everyone.
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dr_feelgood
Dec 12, 2011, 8:37 PM
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gojiclimber wrote: My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist). Taking days off of work here and there instead of saving them up for one longer trip, buying gear instead of replacing my broken phone, or paying the dentist. Trips out west instead of paying student loan debt. Un(fortunately?), this behavior is typical of addicts. Are these really signs of addiction? Are you addicted to?
Better to be addicted to climbing than crack cocaine, gambling, or strippers.
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donald949
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sungam wrote: Everyone is lying, don't ditch the girl. Seriouesly, bro. Anyone who has the patience to sit through an econ degree, which may well be the single most boring and bordom-capacity testing subject out there, will totally have the patience to put up with you going on climbing trips etc. Not a lot of girls will. Though I'm pretty sure buying shit you want instead of paying for shit you should is typical of, like, everyone.
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sungam
Dec 12, 2011, 10:46 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote: gojiclimber wrote: My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist). Taking days off of work here and there instead of saving them up for one longer trip, buying gear instead of replacing my broken phone, or paying the dentist. Trips out west instead of paying student loan debt. Un(fortunately?), this behavior is typical of addicts. Are these really signs of addiction? Are you addicted to? Better to be addicted to climbing than crack cocaine, gambling, or strippers.
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tolman_paul
Dec 12, 2011, 11:55 PM
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You could be a good boy, invest your $ in 401ks, savings et all.
Then either the stoke brokers and bankers make off with your loot, or you die before you get to enjoy your life.
Money is simply a tool, if you are getting the maximum useage out of you money, good for you.
Odds are most people when they age regret the trip they didn't take, vs. the $ they didn't save.
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6pacfershur
Dec 13, 2011, 1:30 AM
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you dont mention if your GF climbs....in my experiences, the key to successful, long-term relationships is common interests....
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shockabuku
Dec 13, 2011, 2:50 AM
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dr_feelgood wrote: gojiclimber wrote: My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist). Taking days off of work here and there instead of saving them up for one longer trip, buying gear instead of replacing my broken phone, or paying the dentist. Trips out west instead of paying student loan debt. Un(fortunately?), this behavior is typical of addicts. Are these really signs of addiction? Are you addicted to? Better to be addicted to climbing than crack cocaine, gambling, or strippers.
What's wrong with strippers?
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perelman
Dec 13, 2011, 1:37 PM
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Or crack?
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gojiclimber
Dec 13, 2011, 2:02 PM
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Yes she is a fair weather climber and been know to flash up to 5.9. She is more of a endurance runner (the cheapest sport ever).
I told her she would like Alpine Touring and I was going to get into it this season. When she saw the price of boots it started this whole thread.
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Gravitron5000
Dec 13, 2011, 7:11 PM
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The gear is more expensive for crack.
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chadnsc
Dec 13, 2011, 11:08 PM
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tolman_paul wrote: You could be a good boy, invest your $ in 401ks, savings et all. Then either the stoke brokers and bankers make off with your loot, or you die before you get to enjoy your life. Money is simply a tool, if you are getting the maximum useage out of you money, good for you. Odds are most people when they age regret the trip they didn't take, vs. the $ they didn't save.
Let me guess, you're 32 years old and in perfect health with a good paying job like an engineer?
(This post was edited by chadnsc on Dec 13, 2011, 11:09 PM)
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curt
Dec 13, 2011, 11:14 PM
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gojiclimber wrote: My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist)...
How would she describe the economics of dumping your girlfriend?
Curt
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irregularpanda
Dec 14, 2011, 1:41 AM
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gojiclimber wrote: Un(fortunately?), this behavior is typical of addicts. Are these really signs of addiction? Are you addicted to?
I am addicted too. So fucking what?
I'd rather take a lot of 3 to 4 day weekends enjoying myself with friends. I'd rather take the time to do what makes me happy.
The question isn't if you're addicted... the question is "does it matter that you're addicted?".
Would you rather squander the best times of your life, and then retire when you're 65 and regret all the time you could have spent climbing?
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damienclimber
Dec 14, 2011, 11:02 AM
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curt wrote: gojiclimber wrote: My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist)... How would she describe the economics of dumping your girlfriend? Curt
Does she pay for your climbing equipment? I bet she wants you to buy her a present instead!
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SylviaSmile
Dec 14, 2011, 1:40 PM
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damienclimber wrote: curt wrote: gojiclimber wrote: My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist)... How would she describe the economics of dumping your girlfriend? Curt Does she pay for your climbing equipment? I bet she wants you to buy her a present instead!
lol some of you guys are worse than girls in terms of reading into things! Sheesh, maybe she was just making an observation about economics and climbing . . . . still, speaking as a girl, I'll say it probably wouldn't hurt to buy her a present. 
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SylviaSmile
Dec 14, 2011, 1:43 PM
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A present that is not alpine touring boots
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SylviaSmile
Dec 14, 2011, 1:45 PM
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Something more like this really cute hat, or maybe a headband or some smartwool socks, those are always nice
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sungam
Dec 15, 2011, 9:32 AM
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SylviaSmile wrote: A present that is not alpine touring boots
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scrapedape
Dec 16, 2011, 1:39 PM
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gojiclimber wrote: My girlfriend says my climbing purchasing and trip cost are exact hyperbolic discounting behavior (she's an economist). Taking days off of work here and there instead of saving them up for one longer trip, buying gear instead of replacing my broken phone, or paying the dentist. Trips out west instead of paying student loan debt. Un(fortunately?), this behavior is typical of addicts. Are these really signs of addiction? Are you addicted to?
Most of those don't sound like issues of discounting, let alone hyperbolic discounting. They mostly issues of tastes.
The use of vacation days as you earn them, rather than saving up, might tell you something about discounting, but cannot be evidence of any particular discounting behavior unless we also know the utility you get from a short trip versus a long trip, the risk of losing those vacation days, etc.
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