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dr_feelgood
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Jesus fucking christ learn to spell.
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Red-Flag
Jan 11, 2012, 6:03 AM
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Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns.
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dr_feelgood
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Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns.
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6pacfershur
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half the people on this forum seem to be retired rocket scientists, half seem to be unemployed, OCD language arts teachers and half aint good et math er englich....
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tH1e-swiN1e
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Red-Flag wrote: meatbomz wrote: So this guy has been developing this area for 15 years on his own dime and you just walk in and start throwing up squeeze jobs on his lines and then talking shit about him on the internet? Would it have hurt your ego that much to follow even one piece of his advice, just to get things off on the right foot? For instance, wouldn't it make sense to say to him "hey, I'm willing to compromise - let's have this route I put up on the main cliff share your anchor." You are the one that started this situation so it's on you to de-escalate it. It seems there is some confusion in my past involvement, so let me clear that up. I have also been developing the area for the last four years. In fact, I have been developing the area far more than he has in the last four years. I am at the crag more than any single person, everyone that climbs at the crag knows who I am, I have been climbing there 5x a week since late 2007. This is just the first time I am adding NEW] routes. I have replaced hundreds of bolts on old routes. I have been climbing over ten years, I have climbed a number of routes on El Cap, I have climbed at over 75 different destinations in the world, I am not some new gumbie with a hammer drill. We are both experienced in bolting routes in the area. And I did try to compromise with him. He thought one of my routes had too much loose rock at the top. So I ended the route before the loose rock and I cleaned all the choss off the top. He wanted me to use the bolts he uses. So I agreed. He wanted me to glue reinforce holds instead of break them off, so I said okay. But its just one thing after another. I give an inch and he wants a mile, he wants the routes to be developed under his exact specification, as if I worked for him and he was paying me to develop routes or something.
Adding new routes IS developing. Replacing worn hardware is just up-keep.
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happiegrrrl
Jan 12, 2012, 6:06 AM
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Red-Flag wrote: It seems there is some confusion in my past involvement, so let me clear that up. I have also been developing the area for the last four years. In fact, I have been developing the area far more than he has in the last four years. I am at the crag more than any single person, everyone that climbs at the crag knows who I am, I have been climbing there 5x a week since late 2007. This is just the first time I am adding NEW] routes. I have replaced hundreds of bolts on old routes. I have been climbing over ten years, I have climbed a number of routes on El Cap, I have climbed at over 75 different destinations in the world, I am not some new gumbie with a hammer drill. We are both experienced in bolting routes in the area.
Probably the Gumby with a Kit concept came from when you wrote:
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blueeyedclimber
Jan 12, 2012, 1:14 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote: Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns. Maybe in your religion. You probably spell your deity G-D as well.
That's irrelevant. Whether or not you believe in Santa Claus, it's still a proper noun and you capitalize his ass!
Josh
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dr_feelgood
Jan 12, 2012, 5:18 PM
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blueeyedclimber wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns. Maybe in your religion. You probably spell your deity G-D as well. That's irrelevant. Whether or not you believe in Santa Claus, it's still a proper noun and you capitalize his ass! Josh
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ubu
Jan 12, 2012, 6:23 PM
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blueeyedclimber wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns. Maybe in your religion. You probably spell your deity G-D as well. That's irrelevant. Whether or not you believe in Santa Claus, it's still a proper noun and you capitalize his ass! Josh
Not necessarily..."christ" is just fine as an uncapitalized adjective.
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wonderwoman
Jan 12, 2012, 6:25 PM
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ubu wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns. Maybe in your religion. You probably spell your deity G-D as well. That's irrelevant. Whether or not you believe in Santa Claus, it's still a proper noun and you capitalize his ass! Josh Not necessarily..."christ" is just fine as an uncapitalized adjective.
Please use christ as an adjective in a sentence.
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ubu
Jan 12, 2012, 6:26 PM
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wonderwoman wrote: ubu wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns. Maybe in your religion. You probably spell your deity G-D as well. That's irrelevant. Whether or not you believe in Santa Claus, it's still a proper noun and you capitalize his ass! "Jesus christ". An adjective does not need to come before a noun to modify it. Josh Not necessarily..."christ" is just fine as an uncapitalized adjective. Please use christ as an adjective in a sentence. |
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wonderwoman
Jan 12, 2012, 6:42 PM
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ubu wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ubu wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns. Maybe in your religion. You probably spell your deity G-D as well. That's irrelevant. Whether or not you believe in Santa Claus, it's still a proper noun and you capitalize his ass! "Jesus christ". An adjective does not need to come before a noun to modify it. Josh Not necessarily..."christ" is just fine as an uncapitalized adjective. Please use christ as an adjective in a sentence.
Maybe you quoted me because you wanted to make me look silly or something, but now I seriously want to know because all I can find is this:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/christ
So, how can you use it in a sentence as an adjective without adding -like or -ly (where it is still capitalized)?
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ubu
Jan 12, 2012, 6:58 PM
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wonderwoman wrote: ubu wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ubu wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns. Maybe in your religion. You probably spell your deity G-D as well. That's irrelevant. Whether or not you believe in Santa Claus, it's still a proper noun and you capitalize his ass! "Jesus christ". An adjective does not need to come before a noun to modify it. Josh Not necessarily..."christ" is just fine as an uncapitalized adjective. Please use christ as an adjective in a sentence. Maybe you quoted me because you wanted to make me look silly or something, but now I seriously want to know because all I can find is this: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/christ So, how can you use it in a sentence as an adjective without adding -like or -ly (where it is still capitalized)?
You're probably right, but I still see no reason why "christ" has to be capitalized since it's not necessarily a proper noun or name, just a description. Joe is a janitor, but we (or at least I) wouldn't say "Joe the Janitor"...just "Joe the janitor".
(p.s. not sure what happened with the cheesetitted quote, but if that was my fault it wasn't intentional...I'll go back and fix it
edit: weird, I had responded to your last post but my text was somehow lost, making it look like I was just quoting for posterity...sorry about that.)
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wonderwoman
Jan 12, 2012, 7:06 PM
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ubu wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ubu wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ubu wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns. Maybe in your religion. You probably spell your deity G-D as well. That's irrelevant. Whether or not you believe in Santa Claus, it's still a proper noun and you capitalize his ass! "Jesus christ". An adjective does not need to come before a noun to modify it. Josh Not necessarily..."christ" is just fine as an uncapitalized adjective. Please use christ as an adjective in a sentence. Maybe you quoted me because you wanted to make me look silly or something, but now I seriously want to know because all I can find is this: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/christ So, how can you use it in a sentence as an adjective without adding -like or -ly (where it is still capitalized)? You're probably right, but I still see no reason why "christ" has to be capitalized since it's not necessarily a proper noun or name, just a description. Joe is a janitor, but we (or at least I) wouldn't say "Joe the Janitor"...just "Joe the janitor". (p.s. not sure what happened with the cheesetitted quote, but if that was my fault it wasn't intentional...I'll go back and fix it edit: weird, I had responded to your last post but my text was somehow lost, making it look like I was just quoting for posterity...sorry about that.)
No biggie. I was just curious. I still follow Merriam-Webster's guidance on capitalization. Except for in internet forums where pretty much everything is absurd, anyway!
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josiahdood
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From reading the OP, it sort of sounds like you're putting up new routes just for the sake of "putting up new routes."
Why would you want to bolt a potentially chossy line or squeeze job? If all the plums have been picked, then why not enjoy them. Bolts leading up an unaesthetic chossy face that most people besides yourself will never climb - seems wrong.
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blueeyedclimber
Jan 12, 2012, 7:50 PM
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ubu wrote: You're probably right, but I still see no reason why "christ" has to be capitalized since it's not necessarily a proper noun or name, just a description. Joe is a janitor, but we (or at least I) wouldn't say "Joe the Janitor"...just "Joe the janitor".
Christ refers to a single person. It is not a job. There are lots of janitors, but only one Christ. Whether you believe he existed or not, whether you follow his teachings or not, there is still only one Christ, Jesus Christ. There is no Joe Christ. It is not the same as saying "My religion has many gods (which is NOT capitalized)."
Nice try, though.
Josh
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ubu
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blueeyedclimber wrote: ubu wrote: You're probably right, but I still see no reason why "christ" has to be capitalized since it's not necessarily a proper noun or name, just a description. Joe is a janitor, but we (or at least I) wouldn't say "Joe the Janitor"...just "Joe the janitor". Christ refers to a single person. It is not a job. There are lots of janitors, but only one Christ. Whether you believe he existed or not, whether you follow his teachings or not, there is still only one Christ, Jesus Christ. There is no Joe Christ. It is not the same as saying "My religion has many gods (which is NOT capitalized)." Nice try, though. Josh
No. Christ *can* refer to a single person, and typically does if you are Christian, but broadly speaking there can be more than one savior.
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ubu
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wonderwoman wrote: ubu wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ubu wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ubu wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns. Maybe in your religion. You probably spell your deity G-D as well. That's irrelevant. Whether or not you believe in Santa Claus, it's still a proper noun and you capitalize his ass! "Jesus christ". An adjective does not need to come before a noun to modify it. Josh Not necessarily..."christ" is just fine as an uncapitalized adjective. Please use christ as an adjective in a sentence. Maybe you quoted me because you wanted to make me look silly or something, but now I seriously want to know because all I can find is this: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/christ So, how can you use it in a sentence as an adjective without adding -like or -ly (where it is still capitalized)? You're probably right, but I still see no reason why "christ" has to be capitalized since it's not necessarily a proper noun or name, just a description. Joe is a janitor, but we (or at least I) wouldn't say "Joe the Janitor"...just "Joe the janitor". (p.s. not sure what happened with the cheesetitted quote, but if that was my fault it wasn't intentional...I'll go back and fix it edit: weird, I had responded to your last post but my text was somehow lost, making it look like I was just quoting for posterity...sorry about that.) No biggie. I was just curious. I still follow Merriam-Webster's guidance on capitalization. Except for in internet forums where pretty much everything is absurd, anyway!
Fair enough. The important thing is that this thread has been successfully hijacked for didactic bullshit.
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csproul
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blueeyedclimber wrote: ubu wrote: You're probably right, but I still see no reason why "christ" has to be capitalized since it's not necessarily a proper noun or name, just a description. Joe is a janitor, but we (or at least I) wouldn't say "Joe the Janitor"...just "Joe the janitor". Christ refers to a single person. It is not a job. There are lots of janitors, but only one Christ. Whether you believe he existed or not, whether you follow his teachings or not, there is still only one Christ, Jesus Christ. There is no Joe Christ. It is not the same as saying "My religion has many gods (which is NOT capitalized)." Nice try, though. Josh
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wonderwoman
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blueeyedclimber wrote: ubu wrote: You're probably right, but I still see no reason why "christ" has to be capitalized since it's not necessarily a proper noun or name, just a description. Joe is a janitor, but we (or at least I) wouldn't say "Joe the Janitor"...just "Joe the janitor". Christ refers to a single person. It is not a job. There are lots of janitors, but only one Christ. Whether you believe he existed or not, whether you follow his teachings or not, there is still only one Christ, Jesus Christ. There is no Joe Christ. It is not the same as saying "My religion has many gods (which is NOT capitalized)." Nice try, though. Josh
Growing up in my household, it was always JESUS CHRIST!!! All caps followed by an exclamation. So, we must all be wrong.
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j_ung
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I wonder what Joe the christ has to say about it.
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jt512
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Red-Flag wrote: Christ is capitalized ass hat. Learn the difference between common nouns and proper nouns.
Christ is a capitalized ass hat. Learn to use articles properly.
Jay
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jt512
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blueeyedclimber wrote: Christ refers to a single person.
More likely, zero persons.
Jay
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chadnsc
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superchuffer wrote: plenty of non-Valley has-beens on this site. can one be a noob and a has-been simultaniously?
You seem to do so quite well so, yes.
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