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gawd


Feb 13, 2003, 7:32 PM
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i read that he shook his 4 month old son to death.

that sick man is a murderer.

he will burn in hell.



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http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=113&sid=1626351

wow.


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Yah. And a $730 fine. Good lord.

I'll have to go with gawd, here. We'll just have to wait for the ba$tard to burn in hell.

Kate


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Some one ought to shake him until he reaches the same goal.


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a suspended sentance and a fine....for murdering a 7 month old???? wtf?


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And this in NO joke?!! I can hardly believe it...! When was he condemned? And what about his expedition to Jannu Northface in Spring 2003? What does he say about it?
Itīs terrible!


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WTF is that about... that's F&*k-ed up! insane!!

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DEFINATLY F%&*ED UP!!!!!



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daisyfay, he didn't get 4 months in jail, it's a suspended sentence: no jail time whatsoever. Talk about a pile o' b#ll$h!t.


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This happened just before Xmas 2001. Loretan was alone at home, wounded on a shoulder, while his wife was guiding someone on a north face. Loretan, who had been much involved in foundations dedicated to children, was worried because his wife was late from teh alpine ascent. The baby couldn't sleep while Mrs Loretan said the baby usually fell better asleep with his father. So, Loretan, upset both by the cries and his wife's delay, shook his baby.
He later reaslised he was breathing with difficulty so provided the emergency care and called the ambulance. But the baby died the day after at the hospital.

The sentence is light. Maybe because of Loretan's involvment in children care and because the daeth was an accident (a very stupid one).


Very sad story for one of the best alpinist and himalayist of the time...


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One word


KARMA


dirko


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Remember back in the bible when god said "Judge not lest ye make yourself look like vengeful a$$hole."


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I hate to be offtopic, but we seem to be playing forum tennis here. Pick one (Community or General, I don't care) and stick with it!

Anyway, did you know that if you accidentally kill someone here in the states, you can still get tried for involuntary manslaughter? That is to say, if you do something so stupid it kills someone, they take you off the streets because you're an unwitting hazard.

I seem to remember being told somewhere to not shake babies, as you might kill them. I guess this "common knowledge" was not so common after all.


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That seriously makes me sick. What goes around comes around. He will get his!


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Feb 14, 2003, 4:06 AM
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maybe he was really drunk, that would make it okay


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and people here oppose the death penalty


Partner tim


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what, better 2 deaths than 1?



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it depends on how the system decides who gets the death penalty. i think there are some people who should not be alowed to live. jail is for correction, there are some who cannot be changed.


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Feb 14, 2003, 8:40 PM
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how strange it is to see that many of you are ready to kill this man, and that in Switzerland this guy is free. Huge gap between Europe and the USA... But who doubted?

this topic should be moved back to community forum


thomasribiere


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or just close it, it's not really interesting anyway. rc.com is not People magazine... Or move it to injuries forum so people will learn that shaking a baby is dangerous!


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