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vtposer
Jun 21, 2003, 1:07 PM
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Sometimes I take mid-late day breaks to down cold ones, then feeling a good glow we go back out climbing. I feel great after a few beers, seems to take the edge off, less hesitation, less fiddling with gear, seems to make me climb better. Seriously, anyone else feel the same?
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clymber
Jun 21, 2003, 1:24 PM
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note to self never climb with vtposter....now think about the goverment made it illeagle to drive a car after a few drinks because it impairs your judgement....so you think its safe to climb and place gear with a buzz on...thats pretty damn scarey in my opinion and stupid.....might have a winner here for the Darwin Award
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fearless1
Jun 21, 2003, 1:46 PM
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I agree with clymber.....definitely a Darwin award for next years edition. Definitely would not want to be the one belaying or following your gear placement....save the beer for after climbing....if you have so much hesitation placing gear, than perhaps you are climbing above your skill level?
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Jun 21, 2003, 1:54 PM
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In reply to: Sometimes I take mid-late day breaks to down cold ones, then feeling a good glow we go back out climbing. I feel great after a few beers, seems to take the edge off, less hesitation, less fiddling with gear, seems to make me climb better. Seriously, anyone else feel the same?
Personally, I think that's a terrible idea. Nothing like having slowed reactions and dulled thinking when engaging in an activity with fatal possibilities.
Granted, everyone has the right to do what they want to do, but on this site I see a lot of irresponsible people. Drinking and smoking pot (both of which I enjoy) while climbing. Plain stupid in my book, but that's my opinion. I save the partying for after the climbing. I guess I just want to be safe.
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ninjaslut
Jun 21, 2003, 2:05 PM
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The state of mind one gets in when one drinks (even just a little) is deceptive. Remember, all the judgements you're making about how climbing is better after a few beers are based on observations made after a few beers. Would you trust a UFO siting, or testimony in a crimal trial attested to by someone who admits to having had a few beers at the time? Likewise, you should understand your recollection of bomber pro placement was judged while impared. You really have no way of knowing now whether any of that stuff could have held you in a fall, as you were in no condition to detirmine that at the time. Even if you did fall once or twice, you may have just fallen on of the few that worked well enough.
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vtposer
Jun 21, 2003, 2:08 PM
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Im not saying I get drunk while I climb, there is a big difference between a drunken stooper and a warm glow. I guess its just being able to know your own limits. What about smoking herb and climbnig? I suppose you guys frown upon that as well. Dont knock it till you tried it.
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Jun 21, 2003, 2:20 PM
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In reply to: Im not saying I get drunk while I climb, there is a big difference between a drunken stooper and a warm glow. I guess its just being able to know your own limits. What about smoking herb and climbnig? I suppose you guys frown upon that as well. Dont knock it till you tried it. |
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Jun 21, 2003, 2:21 PM
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vtposer said:
In reply to: What about smoking herb and climbnig?
the more man smoke herb, the more babylon fall
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treeman
Jun 21, 2003, 2:27 PM
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are you able to find a partner to climb with after a few beers? beer just makes people sloppy, just look at people in a bar.
i climb tree's for a living, and i prefer pot over beer. but the 2 do not mix. yes i have gotten stoned a few times before climbing, but it made me slow as $hit. i was too busy second guessing myself. plus i do not want the added burden that i hurt myself or my partner because i was stoned.
save the beer / weed for after the ropes are coiled. climbing is dangerous enough. can you live with yourself if something happened to your partner after you had a few?
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In reply to: I've tried them both, so now I can knock it. And I will. It's dumb. Period.
me2. it sucks. even one beer dulls your reflexes and precision. i only tried once after a beer and once after a little grass, and it SUCKS. i could climb only about 1 grade lower than my level and that was pushing it. not to mention the secutity issues.
now, a cold one AFTER climbing. and maybe some pizza... mmmmmmmm
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Jun 21, 2003, 3:33 PM
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For me the climbing is so much fun and so special that I don't need to drink and I don't smoke anymore anyways. The climbing itself is my drug. I do tend to get blistered after a scary climb though. One of my best partners smokes a ton of weed and usualy does a hit or 2 before climbing. He is very solid and never overdose it on multi pitch but can get carried away while craggingor spurt climbing. I have seen him do some pretty stupid stuff after burning one. He is the rope gun though so what do you do :roll:
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vtposer
Jun 21, 2003, 3:35 PM
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My partner is the one who buys the beer and packs the bowls man! One time I had him tie beers to the haul line so I wouldnt loose my buz as I aided over the crux roof. all you guys who say you get tippsy after one beer are either quears or lightwieghts or both. I can have at least a three and my fine motor skills arent effected, period. As for mixing pot and beer, I find that after a few chokers the beer really helps with the cotton mouth.
"Drinking!" "Drink on!"
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sirtis
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:arrow: your lucky when ever I try to down a few cold ones Im sent to my room...damn laws...
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pehperboy
Jun 21, 2003, 3:48 PM
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Oh man, when I see sh*t like this going on at the crag I prefer to find somewhere far, far away. I bring my first aid kit, pullies and static line for myself and the people I climb with - just in case. Don't want to have to assist in rescuing some drunk/stoned dimwit. If it's just you and your buddies, climb on. But you put other climbers in a situation where when you have an accident they forced to take responsibility for your drunken (sorry "glow on") screw ups. And I for one don't want to witness a fatality - under any circumstances.
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climbjs
Jun 21, 2003, 3:49 PM
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I've done it. Of course, I've done many stupid things. In hindsight, I wouldn't do it again- although it seemed fun at the time!
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vtposer
Jun 21, 2003, 4:00 PM
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Oh, Jeez. thanks pehperboy. I can sleep easier knowing you have your pully and static line with you at all times. ready to save the day. and FYI we prefer Mentaly challenged, not dimwit. :roll:
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sauron
Jun 21, 2003, 4:07 PM
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I think people should do what they want at the crag, be it grass, alcohol or harder drugs..
Look at it this way - once they kill themselves, there'll be one less person to deal with at our already overfilled crags...
- d.
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treeman
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some years back i spent a season ski patroling in VT. it was interesting how after lunch most of the people that needed help had alcohol on their breath. did alcohol cause this? can;t say for sure but i bet it made them ski a little more reckless.
didn't some one in CO get charged with man slaughter after killing a man by skiing into him after he had a few.
why not just drink vodka out of a flask? humping them beers to the crag must get heavy. then you could keep the flask in your chalk bag for mid climb nips. do you pack out your empty's? with all that drinking do you have to piss at hanging belays?
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fieldmouse
Jun 21, 2003, 4:13 PM
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whats the big deal? I know about a hundred people here in flagstaff who got soused as fuck and still crank. as for puffing down before climbing-I know about 2 people who dont. Get over it. now climbing on acid-thats sketch.
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Jun 21, 2003, 4:35 PM
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"Whats the big deal ?!°?!?"
Now my 12 year old son wants to take beer on our next trip.
Thanks, RC:com !!!1
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vtposer
Jun 21, 2003, 4:37 PM
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In reply to: why not just drink vodka out of a flask? humping them beers to the crag must get heavy. then you could keep the flask in your chalk bag for mid climb nips. do you pack out your empty's? with all that drinking do you have to piss at hanging belays?
Hauling beers is good trainning. besides we bring cans which are much lighter and can be crushed for easy carry out.
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calamity_chk
Jun 21, 2003, 4:42 PM
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i'd sport climb and boulder with a buzz on. trad is scary enough as-is though.
then again, it's lunch time and i'm still recovering from the hangover from last night .. doh.
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pehperboy
Jun 21, 2003, 4:46 PM
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Hey, no problem VT. Don't think I'd want to waste my precious resources on someone like you though. Prefer to let nature take its course . . .
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pehperboy
Jun 21, 2003, 4:50 PM
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BTW VTPoser, have considered going to AA to get help with your substance abuse problem? Do us all a favour and check it out - before you kill or injure yourself or someone else.
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fieldmouse
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In reply to: "Whats the big deal ?!°?!?" Now my 12 year old son wants to take beer on our next trip. Thanks, RC:com !!!1
you let your 12 year old look at these forums?
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