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el_capitan
Aug 13, 2003, 5:25 PM
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Looking for suggestions for a 2 week climbing trip at christmas (international preferred but U.S. would be okay too, other then J-Tree and Red Rocks). My dream is Thailand but I have not been able to find a flight for under $1200 from Minneapolis. If anyone has ideas or suggestions on making this more affordable, it would be greatly appreciated. So other then Thailand, where would be a good climbing location? Things I'm looking for are a flight or transportation costs under $800, avaliability of camping or cheap lodging, prefer multi-pitch but sport will do, and culture and spanish speaking are pluses.
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bumblie
Aug 13, 2003, 5:27 PM
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Potrero Chico
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rockmx
Aug 13, 2003, 5:28 PM
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Yes... Potrero Chico
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el_capitan
Aug 13, 2003, 5:31 PM
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Thats the baja near Monterey right? Can you help me find more info? Where can I stay? Any guidebooks? etc.
Thanks.
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killclimbz
Aug 13, 2003, 5:33 PM
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It's near Monterey Mexico. Do a route search for more info. Big wall sport routes and plenty of 1 pitch stuff abound on limestone cliffs.
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alpnclmbr1
Aug 13, 2003, 5:35 PM
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potrero
15 pitch 5.9's (to loose for me but many people like them)
A hundred 5 star 5.12-
Three years ago you could get a bedroom in a house for $5 a night
Fly into monterey and take a cab to hidalgo (the rancheros can set you with one)
No need for a car once your there
The nicest people I have met in mexico.
Do a google search for potrero chico
Homeros is the original and closest to the crag
la posada is where I stayed.
depends on what kind of accomodations your looking for.
Don't stay at el rancho gordo.
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tigerbythetail
Aug 13, 2003, 8:04 PM
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Check here -
http://www.rockclimbing.com/routes/listArea.php?AreaID=401
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leaverbiner
Aug 13, 2003, 8:54 PM
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In reply to: Yes... Potrero Chico
Another vote for Potrero. I would say Australia, but it will be summer and likely damn hot (not to mention as expensive, if not more than Thailand)
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jcinco
Aug 13, 2003, 9:10 PM
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I've been to the Portrero twice, and though it is a worthy destination, it is way overhyped. Quality climbing, don't get me wrong... but definitely not deserving of "world-class" status as some people (Kurt Smith circa 2000) would like you to believe.
If you are willing to spend $800, then you should really reconsider Thailand. There really is no comparison between Railai and El Portrero. If you put a little more effort into your airfare search you can probably score something around that price range. Admittedly, it might be a bit harder for Christmas, but we bought Bangkok tickets for a February trip last year, three weeks before the flight, for $790 from China Airlines. C.A. partners with United or Delta, so the fare was the same from any city in the U.S. Just look around some more, especially look into Asian carriers.
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el_capitan
Aug 13, 2003, 11:18 PM
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Thanks everyone for the tip on Portrero Chico. I heard of it before but didn't really look much into it before. Any other suggestions for trad climbing areas?
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renobdarb
Aug 14, 2003, 12:31 AM
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My friend took a climbing trip to New Zealand and had a blast... haven't been there myself but it'll be summer there in December... may be worth checking into...
-brad
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missedyno
Aug 14, 2003, 12:38 AM
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potrero's great for sport multipitch...
but it is really really reeeeeally crowded over the christmas holidays.
i mean, reeeally crowded. do you want to climb multipitch under a few other parties in the choss pile that potrero is? see if you can find a place to go where you won't have to line up for climbs.
unless you enjoy crowds, that is.
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alpnclmbr1
Aug 14, 2003, 12:55 AM
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If the potrero is to crowded for you, consider El Salto, 45 min out of monterey, no commercialization at all. The routes use to start at 11d, but it is the best limestone I have climbed on in north america.
As far as other winter destination consider Hueco tanks/crowded
One of my favorite trad climbing areas is Cochise Stronghold, can be cold over x-mas but it can be fine to. Has some of the most beautiful rock there is outside of the needles.
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skinny
Aug 14, 2003, 6:52 PM
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You could go to Europe and climb in Spain. Siurana is supposed to be outstanding limestone. Also, winter is the season for bouldering at Font outside Paris. It's the off season so you should be able to get a ticket for under $600 or $700, maybe less.
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el_capitan
Aug 18, 2003, 12:05 AM
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Thanks for all the tips. It sounds like portrero is really crowded but if I did decide on heading there, what would be the cheapest and fastest way to get there? I read from past from a past forum that you can either fly directly into Monterrey (looks about $600 from Minneapolis during x-mas) or take a bus across the border($360 to San Antonio then bus it). Any thoughts or hints on this?
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