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reborne
Aug 21, 2003, 5:06 PM
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This is something everyone i know is pretty lazy about, putting back up on there rappel rig, (not backing up what there rapping off of) so i just thought ide throw this out and get a quick idea how prevelant the laziness is.
Please respond in short form ..."i do" "I dont" if you do please give a the name for the type of backup you use
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edit; reading the responses reminded me of something else i do that i wish everyone would do lower the rope dont throw it ESPECIALLY if there is lose rock the rope can take with it, but even just to avoid the tree or my head THANKS
edit by Tim: hey man, this is a great question. I added an actual poll for you, PM me if you would rather take it down. hope you don't mind!
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bobtheboulderer
Aug 21, 2003, 5:09 PM
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I do. Petzl Shunt.
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renobdarb
Aug 21, 2003, 5:10 PM
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Single pitch: no
Multi-pitch: yes - usually a prusik or klemheist
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renobdarb
Aug 21, 2003, 5:12 PM
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Single pitch: no
Multi-pitch: yes - usually a prusik or klemheist
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stick233
Aug 21, 2003, 5:12 PM
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nope,
if i'm tired or something i might wrap a coil aruond my leg. prolly should back it up though?!?!
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the_pirate
Aug 21, 2003, 5:12 PM
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No.
You gotta leave the door open for death sometime.
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oldrkr
Aug 21, 2003, 5:15 PM
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Single - No
Multi - Yes Autoblock 5-7mm cord on leg loop
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vegastradguy
Aug 21, 2003, 5:19 PM
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single pitch: no, unless there is a drop off below (one comes to mind...)
multipitch: always, autoblock attached to leg loop.
and, I always tie a knot in the end of my ropes. always.
there's been more than one person in recent times who has died here at Red Rocks on a short rappel, so its something that's always on the mind....
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addiroids
Aug 21, 2003, 5:21 PM
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I never have but if it came to some really scary sh!t like rapping at night, with it raining sideways, snowing upwards, and rockfall all around, then I might. But even with a pig, the most I would do is to use 2 rap methods (ATC spidered out to pig and biner break on harness) for the added friction. But for multipitch rapping, I just tie knots in the end and be careful always.
If I ever did do it, I would use the autoblock on the breakhand side of the rope attached to the leg loop. Only has to hold a fraction of the weight and easy to unload since it isn't loaded much at all.
TRADitionally yours,
Cali Dirtbag
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climbhigh23
Aug 21, 2003, 5:23 PM
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single pitch - most of time no.
multi pitch - yes, prusik or klemheist.
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bakedjake
Aug 21, 2003, 5:26 PM
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single pitch - half the time
multi pitch - yes
i generally try to back up the rappell because 1. i'm a novice climber and 2. i've been told most accidents occur on the rappell
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lazide
Aug 21, 2003, 5:28 PM
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if I am moving fast over easy terrain, no. If I know I need my hands free, on multipitch, or when in unfamiliar areas or during weird weather yes. I do a quick and easy kleimheist below the rap device, and clip it to the leg loop of my harness.
Works well, fast, and quick and easy 'third hand' for when I want to take a photo, scope out a new line, etc.
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slabmaster
Aug 21, 2003, 5:32 PM
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yes always... Always... ALWAYS
prussik - single and/or multi pitch
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alwaysforward
Aug 21, 2003, 5:37 PM
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Why wouldn't you just use a prussik? Why not? I don't understand....
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joegoesup
Aug 21, 2003, 5:51 PM
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I should, but rarely do on single pitch, biners can fail! I always do on multipitch. Prussik on my leg loop.
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naitch
Aug 21, 2003, 5:56 PM
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Recently, all the time on both single and multipitich since I found out how easy the autoblock is to use compared to the prussik.
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dingus
Aug 21, 2003, 5:58 PM
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Do not.
DMT
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flamer
Aug 21, 2003, 6:00 PM
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Nope!
josh
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amicussaxi
Aug 21, 2003, 6:07 PM
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Almost never
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crankenstein
Aug 21, 2003, 6:09 PM
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Never have other than knots sometimes. I always pay attention to the rope ends. I know that that would not save me if a rock knocks me out on rappel though.
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I know it's better to, but I pretty much never do.
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cricket
Aug 21, 2003, 6:36 PM
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Yes, I have to as I am afraid of falling and heights.
(prussik loop)
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dlintz
Aug 21, 2003, 6:39 PM
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Always, with prussik tied to leg loop.
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joebuzz
Aug 21, 2003, 6:39 PM
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Single pitch where I can see both ends on the ground- No
Multi pitch or anytime I may be more than 30m. off the ground with only a single rope- Yes; Autoblock is the way to go.
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keinangst
Aug 21, 2003, 6:42 PM
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I do always, unless there is someone below me to hold the brake line.
Method of choice: Autoblock with 9/16" webbing on brake side.
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