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korntera
Nov 2, 2004, 7:42 AM
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I have seen a lot of flyers around for save madrone things. I also thought i heard somebody say it was open and now i see a picture of the place( i don't think this was here a month ago) so i am wonering what the status of madrone is?
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mmmcakendr
Jul 9, 2007, 5:17 AM
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Its not "open" people climb there the ban is to keep most people out but it cant be enforced because it is public land and can not I have friends that have been stopped by police who talked to them about it.
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freeforsum
Jul 9, 2007, 3:27 PM
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It is not open.....please respect the no trespassing signs.
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lazysummerdays
Jul 16, 2007, 3:44 AM
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it is not open, and it is a grey area for legality... I've been stopped a couple times by police when parking on the highway to go over there, and once by some county official... I fall into the loophole that my land is in the designated greenspaces area, (thank you incorporation of Damascus) and so I can legally access it... and they always let me continue as soon as they see my ID with my address.
with that in mind... I offer this, I have scanned the madrone section out of the old guide... I will email the entire bit if you ask. *NOTE* This is the work of Tim Olson, when Madrone opens for all again, and the reprint comes out, support the author and buy it.
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lazysummerdays
Jul 16, 2007, 3:46 AM
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or, you can just look at my myspace page...
www.myspace.com/jarodburford
also on there is a video of the new place we are developing in Mollala.
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freeforsum
Jul 16, 2007, 2:53 PM
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lazysummerdays wrote: I fall into the loophole that my land is in the designated greenspaces area, (thank you incorporation of Damascus) and so I can legally access it...
lazysummerdays wrote: This is the work of Tim Olson, when Madrone opens for all again, and the reprint comes out, support the author and buy it.
I believe a new person to be writing a different and better guide.
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lazysummerdays
Jul 16, 2007, 3:12 PM
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Anyone who lives in the Holcomb, Carver, beaver creek, Damascus area, has the right to access any of the publicly owned "greenspaces" in the area. This includeds the south shore of Beaver Lake, the rivers north side of McIver Park, the Eagle creek logging park, The abernathy creek watershed, and Madrone... among others. I'm pretty sure that is what the person who posted above me was trying to say... ha.. since it's (free for some) it's hard to enforce it against everyone else.
Regardless of who makes the new one, (which i've been hearing about for a grip) the ones I've scanned are the work of Tim Olson, if it wasn't out of print, I wouldn't be giving it out to people.
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freeforsum
Jul 16, 2007, 3:25 PM
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Even if there are "no trasspassing" signs up? Because you are a "local".....you trump all?
Very interesting.
Did you notice the new anchor on Neavu Reash (not spelled correctly)?
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lazysummerdays
Jul 16, 2007, 3:51 PM
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I wouldn't say trump... but yeah... we trump that. I'm not even sure that it is just locals, it may be all Oregonians. or even everybody.... I'm just going off talks I had with the commisioners when they were incorporating Damascus, and we spoke of the protection, and access of green spaces. (which btw. was a bad conversation for the most part... Metro has plans to pave over several nice areas.)
Noveau riche has a new anchor? I don't think I've ever noticed an anchor other than the one I've used... which is up in that gulley... which I always thought was the stud variation...
Heres a fun fact, the last two times I got on windows of your mind, there have been bats in the crack... they stated squealing and it sounded like the rock was tearing apart... kinda creepy.
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freeforsum
Jul 16, 2007, 4:02 PM
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lazysummerdays wrote: Noveau riche has a new anchor? I don't think I've ever noticed an anchor other than the one I've used... which is up in that gulley... which I always thought was the stud variation...
It used to be a swaged cable hanging off a tree at the top of the cliff. I replaced it last summer with rap hangers and bolts. Thank god…..that cable had been there for at least 15 years…..how scary it was to rap on that.
We also replaced the anchor to “Mind Games”.
(This post was edited by freeforsum on Jul 16, 2007, 4:04 PM)
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lazysummerdays
Jul 16, 2007, 4:16 PM
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Nice, now... I know this is off topic... but what can you tell me about table rock... I've done about 10 climbs there now, all that I am 90% positive were f.a. The place has SOOOOO many climbs there,
here is a map
http://www.maps.live.com/...ck.___&encType=1
and here is the summitpost....
http://www.summitpost.org/...1980/Table-Rock.html
the rock doesn't look like good quality, but some areas are amazing. with over a 1/2 mile of faces
I'm sure someone has climbed something.... other than us.
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freeforsum
Jul 16, 2007, 4:24 PM
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Table Rock.....isnt that in southern OR? Cant you see it from I5? Looks fun.
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lazysummerdays
Jul 16, 2007, 4:40 PM
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No, it's in Molalla. Kinda... We have a swimming hole up there, and started looking around, following the basalt line. We had a combo camping/adventure climbing weekend (on the upper molalla rd.), where I climbed straight into the middle of starburst (35 ft 10c) on the molalla river (is a well known spot) then did a day of deep water soloing at the Narrows (park at horse creek rd. follow the trail down to the cliffs. 25 ft high boulder problems over 30 ft. deep water ratings range from dirty v1s to clean v7s the harder the problem, the cleaner it is... go figure) then followed the rd up to table rock, which is a 4 mile hike in. All this, and only 45 min from my house.
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Jul 16, 2007, 7:01 PM
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