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camoaero
Jun 2, 2002, 2:11 AM
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I've been strictly a boulder climber for a while and i just starting top roping. What's the best method to use for tossing a rope? I know I'm coiling it right but it always seems to kink on the way down. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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ponyryan
Jun 2, 2002, 8:10 AM
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One thing that I've done when my coil got messed up in my rope bag (space permitting) is to lay it all out near your anchor point. Then one thing you can do is weight an end (but be sure nobody is below), and toss the weight and keep your rope from snagging as the slack is pulled out. Or you can just pitch an end off the edge and hope it makes it.
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maculated
Jun 2, 2002, 9:01 AM
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Separate your coils. My friend taught me to do this and it works like a charm. Make three or four small coils of rope and toss out one and watch gravity do its thing.
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bergsteiger
Jun 2, 2002, 3:36 PM
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Hey Mac could you explain "three seperate coils" a little more please. I've been using the butterfly coil to store my rope and every damn time I take it out of the bag its all knotted up.
Bergsteiger
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newtocalgary
Jun 2, 2002, 3:43 PM
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the easiest way to coil your rope is dont.
you should either butterfly it or use a ropebag
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radistrad
Jun 3, 2002, 4:33 PM
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butterfly coil is made easier if done over the shoulders and behind the neck, you can get that precision coiling.
As far as tossing your rope..
if you pick up a piled rope it will knot on you.
if you butterfly coil, have your middle marked and clip in there and toss the rope its supposed to "uncoil on the way to the ground
if you start with both ends and feed them over the cliff, you will end up in the middle at your clip in point, no knots and the easiest way to find the middle of an unmarked rope.
if this does not help, sorry, I can go into more detail
[ This Message was edited by: radistrad on 2002-06-03 09:43 ]
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xen_monkey
Jun 3, 2002, 4:49 PM
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I set up my firt top rope this weekend. I figured that would be the best way to uncoil (from the packaged coil it had). I clipped it and through it over the edge and it tagled . I pulled it up untgled it a butterflied it over my shoulders. Once I clipped it again and tossed it it unraveled perfectly. This might be because the coil was fresh. But I'll try iy again next weekend, this time with it sitting in the bag butterflied
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downshift
Jun 4, 2002, 3:26 PM
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Xen if you learned one thing from last weekend it is to yell rope, pause and then toss.
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jt512
Jun 4, 2002, 8:39 PM
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People, learn to read! This thread is about how to toss a rope, not how to coil it for transport.
-Jay
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jeffi
Jun 7, 2002, 7:51 PM
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The way I learned was to find the middle, clip it in, flake/uncoil the rope it until reaching the ends, then take a few coils of each end (ends together) and toss. Then as MAC said let gravity do the rest. Because the rope is flaked with the middle on the bottom of the pile it should just go out smoothly--at least in theory.
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climbjs
Jun 7, 2002, 9:03 PM
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-And don't forget to tie a knot into each end of your rope!!!
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cajunclimbere
Jun 7, 2002, 9:19 PM
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The way that I do it is just feed it into the bag no coil or nuthin just feed it in the bag then I tie the end to a biner and clip it to the top of the bag for easy accsess undo the biner and just feed it out of the bag. I tried the butterfly thing and every time I threw the rope it always got knoted up so I just snake it out saves me time and nerves.
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jdcox_9
Jun 7, 2002, 10:02 PM
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climbjs
why do you put a knot in each end of the rope?
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missedyno
Jun 7, 2002, 10:11 PM
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always put a knot in both ends of the rope before you toss it if you're planning to rappell. that way if for some reason your ends didn't hit the ground, you'll stop instead of hitting the ground yourself.
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toobigtoclimb
Jun 14, 2002, 10:04 PM
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Keep in mind that a new rope is tougher to throw because it will have a tendency to twist
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