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theamish
Jun 6, 2002, 8:00 PM
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I can't begin to advise you on your question. Mainly your rack depends on what type of rock you will be climbing. If I may suggest, your best course of action would be to hook up with other local climbers, not only can they advise you on the gear to get they, hopefully, will be able to help you with its use. Self taught climbing usually isn't the best of ideas.
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krustyklimber
Jun 6, 2002, 8:05 PM
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Your best bet would be (if possible) to hook up with other climbers in your area, as using the rack is way harder than buying it. You will want to learn to place protection from someone, who has actually done it, in person. And have them check your placements, for a while, on safe ground before ever climbing on your placements.
There are many tricks to the safe placement of gear that we cannot teach you online, and we here want you to stay alive for a long time to come!
So first find other climbers and they will be able to help you pick out the gear, and the methods, appropriate for your area.
I hope this helps,
Jeff
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snake
Jun 7, 2002, 5:19 AM
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Be prepared to spend a lot of money.
[ This Message was edited by: snake on 2002-06-06 22:19 ]
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crackaddict
Jun 7, 2002, 5:30 AM
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I agree with krusty!
But I would like to add that you should learn how to climb trad first. Learn have some one teach you how to set up top ropes first. Log on some hours of TR and become a confident trad climber. You'll need all you wits about you before you cast of that first trad lead. Because its more than just pluging gear in while you climb. You need technique first. Then you wont have to make desperate and bad placements.
Be smart!
Climb safe!
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tenn_dawg
Jun 7, 2002, 5:35 AM
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Yeah man, Find yourself a friend who climbs trad and go with them for awhile.
I hate to say this, but it dosen't sound like you have climbed very much. With this comes the possibility that in a few months your interest in it may falter a little bit, and you may not climb much at all anymore. It would suck to have a $600 setting in a closet, and you wondering why you spent all that money. I've bought gear off of guys in that exact position.
So try to find someone with trad gear. You'll be amazed how much you will learn from a competent climber, and you will have a better idea what to buy when it comes time to make that investment.
Hope this helps,
Travis
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redzit
Jun 8, 2002, 7:11 PM
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i would suggest you start off with 4-5 48" slings, half a duzen locking biners, three or four 24" slings, some larger slings, may be eight feet, then 20 metters, 22 yards, of 10mm static line plus verious lengths of cordelette. nothing thinner than 6mm, just to be safe, incase of over estimating your gear.
get a peara biner and an ATC. or grigri, and buy a mid quality rope. make sure it is dymanic, the rope, i would say for a begginer, being one my self, sould be duol dry, meaning the center is marked by a change in sheath pattern, and dry meaning you can get it a little wet without much worrie this will help as a begginer, such as my self and you, will not know when you retire a rope, and all this will help extend the life of your rope, the rope alone will fetch you about $200 Canadian,
For trad, start off with some strong, simple wired nuts, IE, the WildCountry rocks, there strong and are simply shaped, making them easier to place,
If you cannot afford a lot of cams, as very few of us can, go for a set of Hexs, curved or flat faces is up to you, there are some threads on this subject in the RC.com database.
if you do get cams, Friends are popular, there cheap and the origonals. but do not use then in horizontal cracks, as the solid stemm could snap.
if you climb in an area with a lot of horizontal or leaning cracks, get cams with flexibal necks.
Finally, Take a Gear course, you can read every post in this wed site but nothing will ever beat the knowlegde you will get from an expierenced climber. even if it is ust a five minute chat with a climber at the crag, this knowledge is priceless
i suggest toprope first, then eventualy go to trad
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