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Jul 17, 2003, 2:12 PM
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Tracy,
This really is Geo's gig, but you might wan to expand on the "BIG endeavors" concept. IMO, "Sawatch" is really an old Indian word which loosely translated means "big gravel piles for crazy flatlanders to climb."
Other than the Ellingwood Ridge, the only Sawatch "climb" is probably Ice Mountain -- a class 3 or 4 scramble on loose rock and possibly steep snow. It's considered dangerous by many who venture its slopes.
If "BIG" means long hiking days, consider the following one-day ascents:
Holy Cross -- 12 miles & 5600'
Oxford/Belford/Missouri -- 11 miles & 5900'
Harvard/Columbia -- 14 miles & 5900'
Other long days can be made by linking two or more close 13ers.
Choose your favorite, but the Sawatch range is generally the land of scree and talus hikes, not rock climbs.
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hey, shorty ... two words fer ya' pal: [b:8d9ff18188]BITE. ME.[/b:8d9ff18188] :lol:
jeez, i mean ... this coming from a guy who meets me at the crag in a freekin' porche! get a 4x4 fer cryin' out loud!
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shorty
Jul 17, 2003, 3:24 PM
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hey Geo -- two words back at cha: BITE YOURSELF.
Last I checked, the 4Runner in my garage is a 4WD. And believe it or not, some of us flatland feriners actually know how to drive one. BTW, the proper spelling is Porsche.
As for the quality of the rock in the Sawatch range (at higher altitudes), nobody will confuse Mount Princeton with, say, the north face of Hallett Peak. Or Crestone Peak. Or most of most of RMNP's Glacier Gorge. Or much of the Sierra Nevada range. Or, ... well, you get the drill.
Dude.
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[quote:492a2ab3e1="shorty"]BTW, the proper spelling is Porsche.[/quote:492a2ab3e1]
yeah, well i used to OWN one way back when! chock it up as a slip of the fingers. :oops: i two are a college grajuate ... so there.
[quote:492a2ab3e1="shorty"]As for the quality of the rock in the Sawatch range (at higher altitudes), nobody will confuse Mount Princeton with, say, the north face of Hallett Peak. Or Crestone Peak. Or most of most of RMNP's Glacier Gorge. Or much of the Sierra Nevada range. Or, ... well, you get the drill.[/quote:492a2ab3e1]
quality? oh, gee, i'm sorry ... tell me again HOW hot it's been down there where you live? i was at the denver airport yesterday (you know: drive to kansas and take a left) and it was [b:492a2ab3e1]103[/b:492a2ab3e1]!!!! hell, i don't think the surface of the SUN is that freekin' hot!
leadville? it hasn't made it above 75 yet this year.
so don't talk to me about rotten rock, speed-racer, -- i live in paradise. and in paradise we pound PITONS to hold the whole chossy mass together. besides, it's not rotten rock ... it's in the process of finding a state of geological entropy. look it up.
oh, and ... bite me.
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mother_sheep
Jul 17, 2003, 3:48 PM
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In reply to: Oooooh, Rock Rumble! Rock Rumble! I wanna see Geo and Shorty wrestle! A la grecque, boys! :shock: :shock:
I just want to see them bite each other. :lol:
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shorty
Jul 17, 2003, 4:08 PM
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hmmm... "grecque" seems a bit too close to "Greek" for my comfort. Given Geo's comments of "Do you use a butt blaster?" during one of my high-step / mantel moves, and of "It's not gay if you're on top.", I'm afraid. I'm VERY afraid. :shock:
Call me a wus, call me a gurly-man, just call the other "boys" on this wrestlin' thang. I just want to be sure that a certain orifice remains a one-way highway. :wink:
However, Skibs, if you're hankerin' to get into the ring ......
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[quote:8011d5b635="shorty"]hmmm... "grecque" seems a bit too close to "Greek" for my comfort. Given Geo's comments of "Do you use a butt blaster?" during one of my high-step / mantel moves, and of "It's not gay if you're on top.", I'm afraid. I'm VERY afraid. :shock: [/quote:8011d5b635]
jeez, shorty, it's just that ... well ... when you did that you looked SO MUCH like wolfgang gullich!! :lol:
he's so DREAMY!
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Jul 17, 2003, 10:23 PM
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Actually there are some phenom. climbs to be had. Shorty/Geo next time you have time on your hands trek up Browns Creek, give it about 4 miles. That is down here by Mt. Antero, pilgrim, another of your giant gravel piles. Your eyes will pop. I'm actually headed in there this weekend. :lol:
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calamity_chk
Jul 17, 2003, 10:45 PM
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In reply to: Well, I AM bringing the jello....... :wink:
*sweet* skibbster's in .. i'm definitely gonna have to watch the air fares then!!
In reply to: i two are a college grajuate ... so there.
yeah, but you are also a marine .. (chuckles to herself)
semper fi.
hehehehe.
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calamity_chk
Jul 17, 2003, 11:43 PM
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lmao ... skibby, that was brillant
hahahaha
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In reply to: * sweet* skibbster's in .. i'm definitely gonna have to watch the air fares then!!
Amber-
You'll have to check Frontier Airlines Web specials next Wednesday they usually have killer "week of" travel deals from Dallas/Ft. Worth to Denver...They only post them on Wednesday and you usually have to travel on that Friday or Saturday.
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calamity_chk
Jul 18, 2003, 1:44 AM
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yeah, i'm shooting for the ascent level membership with frontier .. yay for cheap airlines based in denver! w00t. 8)
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Jul 18, 2003, 4:16 AM
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geo,
wish we could make it to your shindig (okie for blowout) but won't be coming to CO this summer until week of Aug. 3 - 10. doh! be safe and somebody do a J-E-L-L-O shot fer moi.
:roll: :? :shock: :wink:
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Jul 19, 2003, 3:50 AM
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For the folks who need guidebooks to the "Pass": I have ten at the cost of $15.00. I also think that Tom Perkins and Neal Beidleman might joint us for the big-blow-out on Sat. nite. If that is ok with our host (Geo)? Should be a lot of fun. I might be doing some new routes on Sunday. So who wants to help?
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Jul 19, 2003, 3:59 AM
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I'm not sure what all it will entail, or if I am experianced enough to help, but I would be happy to offer you assistance Bob! I enjoy labor, and especially learning.
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In reply to: I'm not sure what all it will entail, or if I am experianced enough to help, but I would be happy to offer you assistance Bob! I enjoy labor, and especially learning.
Good, that is a start. I need to clean ( lot's of lichen and some dirt) this one crack (looks like 5.11d) and maybe clean and place some bolts on this nice face (maybe 5.10+). Might also work on the trail up to the cliff.
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calamity_chk
Jul 19, 2003, 5:34 AM
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*if* i'm able to make it, i'll either be pulling in late on friday or early on saturday .. depending on the web specials at aa.com and frontier, and the preferences of my gracious chauffer
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Jul 19, 2003, 7:32 PM
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Hey I'm looking at showing up friday morning/early afternoon. Anybody want to climb something on friday? Preferably rock, I don't know this area very well so I'm open to suggestions...I'll be in Estes tuesday through thurs. so let me know before than....or meet me for some fun in Rocky...
josh
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Jul 19, 2003, 10:11 PM
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Hey Geo-
I did the Brown's Canyon "family pace" rafting thing a few years ago, and I seem to remember seeing some short, 1 pitch, sport and trad routes in the canyon. Are you familiar with those climbs? If people get there early on Friday, would that be a good place to start? Or, are we better off starting at the local tavern?
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Jul 20, 2003, 2:43 AM
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you can update the atg200 ticker to a definite no geo - i am catching the 6:30 AM flight to tashkent tomorrow morning. have fun, and you need to have one of these sometime when i am in the country.
andrew
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Hey Geo,
How's about some directions or an address? I'm not sure where you live!! josh
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[quote:715a4f0720="bobd1953"]I also think that Tom Perkins and Neal Beidleman might joint us for the big-blow-out on Sat. nite. If that is ok with our host (Geo)? Should be a lot of fun.[/quote:715a4f0720]
sure, bob, the more the merrier. besides, with guests of THAT caliber how can one go wrong?
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okay, ladies ... here's the update as of 0912 on 7/22. be sure to check out out NEWEST feature below, the atg200 rap to determine andrew's CURRENT status.
[b:334997b4ea]check page 1 of this thread for directions.[/b:334997b4ea]
mtngeo -- duh
clymbr_chk -- maybe
kyhangdog -- distant maybe
felis -- yes
stephan (felis's son) -- yes
tracyroach -- yes
kcrag -- yes
skibabeage -- yes
mikedano -- yes
mrs.mikedano -- yes
freeballn -- yes
jasona -- yes
neph -- yes
scott (neph's climbing partner) -- yes
shorty -- yes
wigglestick (that hosebag) -- yes
bobd1953 -- yes (do NOT miss bob's saturday night slide show!)
curt -- maybe
sharpie -- yes
tradkelly -- yes for saturday evening
sean & anne hudson -- maybe
uncle_big_green -- maybe
flamer -- yes
tom perkins -- yes
neil beidelman (everest veteran) -- yes
just_me -- yes
[b:334997b4ea]don't forget, people, beds are first come, first served, so ... bring a sleeping bag!! [/b:334997b4ea]
[b:334997b4ea]the atg rap[/b:334997b4ea] (by yours truly, heavy g)
here's the story on andrew,
atg200, yo,
will he show to throw wit geo? hell no!
uzbekistan, schmekistan, where-the-heck-is-ekistan,
andrew gotta' go and do his thang, he gotta' be the man!
(scratch: a-wick, wick, wicky, wicky, wick, wick ...)
the leadville thing? he can't make it,
he got a job,
he really gotta' take it,
he's a software prodigy,
he can't fake it,
maybe next time,
but right now he can't make it.
(a-wick, wick, wicky, wicky, wick, wick ...)
word.
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andrew is in uzbekistan .. so i think the ticker can safely be set to
eenie, meenie, miney, no.
he'll be backin august .. we should throw him a big bday party with lots of beer .. then he'll be sure to show up.
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