|
zlipper
Jan 8, 2002, 7:54 PM
Post #1 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
i wish somone would plan somthing like in utah out here in the east for us ocean dwellers to do as soon as summer rolls around like the begining of june or mid june. id plan it but im off at school in virginia. if somone could help me plan one id be more then willing to get it together. we could all meet and climb at greatfalls, carderrock, or even trip to seneca rocks. dont know bout you folks but sounds fun to me
[ This Message was edited by: zlipper on 2002-04-23 18:00 ]
|
|
|
|
|
woodse
Jan 8, 2002, 9:08 PM
Post #2 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 25, 2001
Posts: 625
|
You know the Utah meeting is for everyone so you could take a little road trip with a bunch of WA climbers and make this Utah meeting even more successful!!!! We're trying to get as many people as possible to show up from every state and country. So who ever reads this post:
YOU ARE ALL INVITED!!!!!!!!!!!
woodsE
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 9, 2002, 4:05 PM
Post #3 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
well set a date and if me semester is over ill see if i can get there
|
|
|
|
|
ironmask
Jan 10, 2002, 3:29 PM
Post #4 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 5, 2001
Posts: 41
|
I think an East Coast gathering would be awesome! And being in Va, I think WVA would be great. I would Love to make it to Utah, However I, Like many others i am sure, cannot afford to take enough time off work to head out west. ( I know I am the companys B*tch, But if the bank says yes to this bank thing, Im gonna have a FEW more bills to pay (hope hope hope)) Name a date and im all over it. Im sure I can round up a few others for it as well.....
ANyone else?
|
|
|
|
|
climbchick
Jan 10, 2002, 3:39 PM
Post #5 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 29, 2001
Posts: 808
|
I'd probably go if it's not in June (I'm going to the Utah one in June). I've been wanting to check out Seneca.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 10, 2002, 4:24 PM
Post #6 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
lets try for somthing in early august
|
|
|
|
|
greyghost
Jan 11, 2002, 4:06 AM
Post #7 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 10, 2001
Posts: 164
|
Seneca is an hour and a half from me.
|
|
|
|
|
hyhuu
Jan 11, 2002, 6:27 PM
Post #8 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 25, 2001
Posts: 492
|
Early August can be quite hot and humid around here.
|
|
|
|
|
climbchick
Jan 11, 2002, 7:42 PM
Post #9 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 29, 2001
Posts: 808
|
Good point there about the heat, Hyuu. What about late April, everyone?
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 16, 2002, 1:40 PM
Post #10 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
late april like spring break time id have to find out when my break is but yeah it be cool
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 16, 2002, 1:43 PM
Post #11 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ok my spring break is not in april it is in march from march 7th through 17th so if thats good for everyone anywhere in there be cool seeing as i got to boarding school i have to check on these things otherwise id skip school
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Jan 17, 2002, 3:12 AM
Post #12 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
Hey Folks: WVa is not that hot in August. Nights are cool, air clean and the rock is everywhere. There's also Nelson's Rock Preserve near Seneca. Lots of great camping in the Monohgahela Nat. Forest, even better Mnt. biking and some of the best white water kayaking in the East. Do I sound like a tourist salesman for the place. Well I love it there. If someone decides to organize it I'll help with WVa info...camping, directions, cabins and other misc. things. Let me know. Later, Charlie
|
|
|
|
|
rrrADAM
Jan 17, 2002, 8:50 PM
Post #13 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 19, 1999
Posts: 17553
|
Late April works for Karen and I... As 'uncle-stu' (cool name) said, we'll be in Maryland from Jan 28th thru late May.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 21, 2002, 9:30 PM
Post #14 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
hopefully people are still interested in this. all we got to do now is figure out where we want to go. seneca or what
|
|
|
|
|
arrockgirl
Jan 21, 2002, 10:47 PM
Post #15 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 26, 2001
Posts: 52
|
Spring break for me is last week in March. But I am also unemployed right now, and only have class on Tuesday and Wednesday, so I could probably make it most anytime, as long as I remain jobless!!
I would be glad to pick up anyone between Little Rock and WVA that needs a ride, too!
Thirteen weeks of being paid to play...ain't life grand?!?!!? (On week 14, the ESD starts asking you for actual PROOF of your job contacts!)
|
|
|
|
|
stardust44
Jan 22, 2002, 12:51 AM
Post #16 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 22, 2001
Posts: 108
|
whoa, uncle stu, u own rocks? How? Anyway, that is awesome. I would really like to go to west virginia for spring break or during the summer. My spring break is the last week of march, but i might be going to Utah, but i am not sure. But that sounds sooo fun and i definitely would like to during the summer. Does You know if your area is near a river (to kayak)
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 22, 2002, 4:40 PM
Post #17 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ok heres what i have to say early march is probibly the finite time for all seeing as itll be luke warm outside and less windy let plan for like the second weekend in march or the week days thereafter
|
|
|
|
|
jaybee
Jan 22, 2002, 5:06 PM
Post #18 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 28, 2001
Posts: 58
|
Hell yeah, go with Uncle-Stu and hit Nelson... Seneca doesn't need any more crowding!
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Jan 22, 2002, 5:47 PM
Post #19 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
Hey all: So U-Stu you 're the owner. I heard somebody bought it. I use to hike there before the trails (did you build them). I know a bunch of the MD Trail club members from the '70's. They use to climb all over that rock. I'm interested in the trip but Ionly top rope. If y'all lead I'll follow. FWIW W.Va. can still be cold/snowy in March. Hell I've skied there in April, nearer Canaan Valley. It's higher than Seneca. I think April-May would have better weather. I'm agreeable to March if that suits everyone. Bring your long johns tho'. Charlie
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 22, 2002, 5:55 PM
Post #20 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
yeah just checked my calandar and my next chances of going climbing would be the last weekend in march or the 2nd weekend in april
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Jan 23, 2002, 3:42 AM
Post #21 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
Hey : stardust - there's also Seneca Creek that runs into the North Fork of the S. Branch of the Potomac. This is a class III river, 6 miles of continuous WW. The North Fork that Stu mentioned has different sections. The best WW would be Hopeville canyon , downstream (N) of Seneca Rocks, cl. III. A lot of the N. Fork is cl. I-II. What level of WW do you paddle?
U.Stu- I don't remember any trails there in the 70's. We just bushwacked between the crags. When did you buy the rock? If no one else comes down, I'll still come and climb with you. I can climb fairly well but am clueless on leading/pro/trad. If you want to do top rope or teach me some trad then we can make it work. Charlie
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Jan 23, 2002, 4:05 AM
Post #22 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
Ok folks Here's the current tally:
West Virginia seems to be in the lead and since U-Stu has a place, cabins and the crag here. I think it's a no brainer but still open for suggestions
Zlippper- early March, end of March, 2nd week of April
Mountainrat- no date
Ironmask- any date (easy I like that)
Uncle Stu- no real job, any date (another easy one)
climbchick-any date but June
Greyghost-Near Seneca but no date
rrradam-late April
Karen-late April
arrockgirl- unemployed any Date but late March is break (from what you don't have a job)
stardust44-late march but may go to Utah but may not , but may?????? a little whishy washy stardust;-)
Me- I'm flexible but I do have a job. guess i'm bringing the beer!
Keep sending your best times for a trip. As of now I would say it's between March and April. If anyone else wants to keep tally feel free to take it away. Charlie
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 23, 2002, 5:57 PM
Post #23 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
yeah charrock im with you in the between late march and early april that seems to be where it might land but lets keep the tally going
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 23, 2002, 6:02 PM
Post #24 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
oh yeah and dont forget to bring the beer
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Jan 23, 2002, 6:06 PM
Post #25 of 89
(10695 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
need ID
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 23, 2002, 7:26 PM
Post #26 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
need id for what? to buy? well yeah im going to bring some too guys so dont feel uptight about it
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Jan 23, 2002, 8:30 PM
Post #27 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
ID/age I bet U-Stu dosen't let minors drink on his crag (I would put a smileyface here if, I knew how):-)
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
Jan 24, 2002, 7:36 AM
Post #28 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
OK now you've done it. I was thinking of heading to WV as I read the forum but when the 'B' word got a mention.... hey it's not that I'm an alcofrolic, they go to meetings, I'm just a beer lover.
April or May is fine with me but the weekend of EDIT: SEE BELOW>
I didn't get down to Seneca at all last year so there or Nelson sounds good.
I feel your pain Uncle-Stu, finding partners. I'll be sure to send you an E next time I'm down.
I will also be in the Red at Easter if anyone else will be.
[ This Message was edited by: darkside on 2002-02-04 15:46 ]
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 24, 2002, 4:12 PM
Post #29 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ok guys another count for late march early april
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 30, 2002, 1:45 PM
Post #30 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ok how are we looking on this one? anyone got a heads up on the date?
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 30, 2002, 4:14 PM
Post #31 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ill have to look that weekend and see if im in class or not but i think i said the first or second weekend in april was great for me but i will follow up with that in the future
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
Jan 30, 2002, 6:48 PM
Post #32 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
My order of preference because of shifts: EDITED BECAUSE OF SHIFT CHANGE
#1 -weekend of April 27-28
#2 -weekend of April 6-7
#3 -weekend of April 20-21
If we decide later, like May then I'll let you know more.
Looking forward to checking out Nelson Rock.
[ This Message was edited by: darkside on 2002-02-04 15:53 ]
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 30, 2002, 9:52 PM
Post #33 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
i would accually prefer somwhere between march 8-17 that way it will be warmer but whatever works for you folk is great i just dont know if ill make it
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Jan 30, 2002, 10:30 PM
Post #34 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
Hey all: I prefer the weeks after Easter 3-31. Daylight savings time starts on 4-7 so the weekend after would give us the most light. As of now any weekend in April is fine. Zlipper--you can only make early March? I thought you could make April as well. W.VA. is only 3-4 hours from Baltimore/Columbia, Isn't your school somewhere around there? It's an easy wknd shuttle. It would be a shame if you couldn't make it since you were the original poster of the idea. The weekend before Easter would be ok for me as well. I think March 23-24. It would be good if Stu drop a line about these dates. For the record: Are we talking Trad or top roping? Later Charlie
|
|
|
|
|
stardust44
Jan 31, 2002, 12:43 AM
Post #35 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 22, 2001
Posts: 108
|
hey all
i could probably climb almost any weekend and my spring break is the last week of march. But i also think i would need a ride b/cI wouldn't be allowed to drive that far.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Jan 31, 2002, 4:14 PM
Post #36 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
well i can make a couple of those weekends but ill need to know which ones they are. and as for my school it is in virginia fork union to be exact. its 50 min from richmond and 45 from charolettes ville if anyone wants to give me a ride from richmond i can meet you there at the greyhound station
|
|
|
|
|
clipngo
Feb 4, 2002, 11:47 PM
Post #37 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 12, 2001
Posts: 66
|
I usually don't know untill the last minute if I can go or not. You guys set the date/ place and I will try to be there.
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
Feb 5, 2002, 12:05 AM
Post #38 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
20-21st April: Yes
Actually the weekend following would be better but I voted in favour because I can make it work. I may have to leave late afternoon but lets get a date set. I hope this weekend is good for Uncle-Stu. Likewise I hope if rrradam & i-karen are still around the east coast, that they will manage it.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 5, 2002, 2:01 PM
Post #39 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
adam and karen will be around till late may i heard from him and as for the 3rd weekend im opposed i think the second is better i cant pull the 3rd weekend it is impossible
[ This Message was edited by: zlipper on 2002-02-05 06:02 ]
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Feb 6, 2002, 1:58 PM
Post #40 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
hey all : I think DArkside has a problem with the 13-14th. Zlipper problem with the 20-21. Stardust seems agreeable to all, I,m good with all dates (as of now), climbchick likes late April, arrockgirl is open, Adam and Karen are still in the East. Stu still waiting to hear. Mountainrat likes middle 2 weeks. If Mountainrat can do the last weekend of April I think that might appeal to the largest group. OR the first week of April. If I missed anyone then let us know. Charlie
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 6, 2002, 3:49 PM
Post #41 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
as of right now the second weekend in april is the only one i can pull so thats as good as i can get school has scedualed me for those weekends
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
Feb 6, 2002, 4:26 PM
Post #42 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
Last weekend of April would work best for me but 1st & 3rd are OK.
I work to midnight Friday 12th and back at work 5.30am on the 15th. With the 8hr+ drive I could only make the 13/14th if someone else from Canada could drive/share driving. Not too promising eh! If you're from Ontario, PM me.
Driving down with no sleep I could do, but not make it back as well (alive).
Which just goes to show that climbers rarely die climbing but on the drive home
|
|
|
|
|
conkdg
Feb 6, 2002, 4:40 PM
Post #43 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 27, 2001
Posts: 36
|
Hey all,
I'm good for any of those weekends, I live here in MD, and can probably drive some people down as well.
Uncle-Stu... let me know if you want to climb, I do day trips down to W.V. any time of year weather permitting. I was jsut down near Seneca a ccouple days ago!
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Feb 7, 2002, 4:26 AM
Post #44 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
Hey Conkdg I work in Beltsville, live Balto. so maybe we can hook up for the ride. I can drive as well. I think stardust needs a ride also. I'll send you an email with more info as the time approaches. Do you climb at EArth Treks? Maybe we can hook up before the trip to climb. Or Carder/Great Falls. Charlie
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 7, 2002, 7:31 PM
Post #45 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
second weekend in april i am good i can make that one and only that one
|
|
|
|
|
rjbonz
Feb 7, 2002, 8:51 PM
Post #46 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 27, 2001
Posts: 16
|
Good Idea.
Now let's lock this down. Sounds like the vast majority of people want to do Seneca Rocks. This is a very, very good choice!! Let's do May, because the Gendarme (the local climbing shop that has a nice porch) and Seneca Shadows (local camping - very nice campground, with hot showers and sand boxes for your tent) will be open. Also, the weather is a bit more consistent during this time. I recommend we hook up May 17-19.
For those of you who have never been to Seneca. . . the place is real (that's why I like it). It is a traditional climbing zone. It does have bolted routes, but the easiest ones are very hard 5.11s, on homemade hangers and very, very run out.
Wallrat
www.carderockbigwall.com
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
Feb 8, 2002, 7:32 AM
Post #47 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
Erm...RJ...I think discussion was which week in April with Uncle-Stu offering his place to camp, and the crag he OWNS, Nelson Rock to climb at. Mountainrat has been taking PM's as to which week in April people are voting for.
I do agree we should nail this down soon though and yes Seneca is an awesome piece of rock.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 8, 2002, 1:01 PM
Post #48 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
just so no one gets mixed up with this anymore i can only make the second weekend in april thats the last time i can come home this semester. and i will need a ride from either richmond or DC whochever is easyer for ya
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Feb 8, 2002, 2:02 PM
Post #49 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
Hey folks: I email U-stu and he says any weekend is cool with him. Gotta love flexibility. He did say that he would appreciate a little trail maintenance from those attending.
Darkside: Coming from Ontario-impressive!!
I also think we should stick with April since we have the most input with this month. Doesn't mean we can't do May as well. I'm going to email folks that had shown an earlier interest but haven't voted on an exact date. Later Charlie
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 8, 2002, 2:08 PM
Post #50 of 89
(7676 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
thanks for the follow up dude
|
|
|
|
|
rjbonz
Feb 8, 2002, 2:15 PM
Post #51 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 27, 2001
Posts: 16
|
Oops, I failed to read all the pages of commentary.
Apologies. . . will not happen again.
Wallrat
www.carderockbigwall.com
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 8, 2002, 2:33 PM
Post #52 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
wow im glad to see this is falling into place thanks everyone for the feedback mountainrat and i are the ones getting this together so PM either of us for whatever
|
|
|
|
|
clymberboy
Feb 8, 2002, 5:00 PM
Post #53 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 15, 2001
Posts: 136
|
i'd be interested in a meeting everyone at nrp. i live in aa county, md. let me know the date & i'll try to make it.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 9, 2002, 3:00 PM
Post #54 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ok sounds good more the merrier. the date as of yet is the second weekend in Apirl
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 10, 2002, 8:22 PM
Post #55 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ok what all gear should we all bring for I.E bushwhacking and whatever?
|
|
|
|
|
greyghost
Feb 10, 2002, 10:52 PM
Post #56 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 10, 2001
Posts: 164
|
Why does it cost 5 dollars to climb at NRP?
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
Feb 11, 2002, 3:59 AM
Post #57 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
I guess I should apologise for backing out but I just can't go Friday to Monday on one nights sleep.
Maybe if the weather craps out on the 13/14th, the 27/28th could be an alternate.
Stu, would you be interested in showing me around Nelson and doing some climbing on the last weekend in April? Maybe Adam and Karen can make it out, it would be great to hook up with anyone who wanted to do a repeat weekend as someone already suggested.
|
|
|
|
|
greyghost
Feb 11, 2002, 5:18 AM
Post #58 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 10, 2001
Posts: 164
|
I am not trying to be a bad guy or anything but how many places in the US do you have to pay directly to climb outside. Part of seneca is on private property and no one asks for money. If the climbing is worth it the trails will get developed. I know a lot of people who will not go to NRP because of the 5 bucks. I am not saying that it is a ton of money. I think it just comes across the wrong way to a lot of people.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 11, 2002, 1:53 PM
Post #59 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
5 bucks is nothing. so lets quite the whining and pay climb clean and have fun
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 12, 2002, 2:17 PM
Post #60 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
stu lets not go and do that
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 12, 2002, 4:08 PM
Post #61 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
hey man im doing trail maintinance for ya and im here for ya lets us know what you want done
|
|
|
|
|
greyghost
Feb 13, 2002, 10:19 PM
Post #62 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 10, 2001
Posts: 164
|
I am not mad Stu. I never said I was mad or even implied that I was mad. I was just hoping for an answer from you. Instead all I got was 5th grade sarcasm from people trying to defend you thinking it was being witty. There seems to be a severe lack of respect on RC for other peoples postings. Another quick question why no dogs?
|
|
|
|
|
rrrADAM
Feb 14, 2002, 12:38 AM
Post #63 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 19, 1999
Posts: 17553
|
GG... Just think for a second at the amount of $$$ Stu shelled out to purchase the 140 acres of land that makes up the NRP.
OK... Now that you've thought of it, I'm assuming you did, do you think he should also pay for the developement of NRP, cabins, trails, personel, on top off the land he had to buy.
If you do, then let me pay the $5 for you. I donated $250 to keep this site running, only to have some users, you included, throw rotten vegetables at me. I have no problem paying to climb on Private land. I also donate to the Access Fund.
Wow, I just thought of something...
You get to ride on the backs of those who donate, RC.com & Access Fund, and reep the benifits of those donations. Good for you, you got a free ride.
rrrADAM
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
Feb 14, 2002, 7:09 AM
Post #64 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
Don't feel too bad about having to pay to climb. As a climber I want to climb, and I want to do it for free. As someone heavily involved with access matters, I can only appreciate how much better it is to deal with a landowner who favours climbing. NRP is not only a crag that favours climbing but is actually owned by a climber. How sweet, and rare, is that?
As a preserve the guiding principles place climbing as a secondary priority and in terms of access this has to be accepted. The two are not however, mutually exclusive so with good management climbing can have a place. It often takes much effort and financial expenditure to make these things work so this is where user fees raise their ugly head. Think of them as a neccessary evil, pay them, and then forget about them and enjoy the climbing, because access is open.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 14, 2002, 4:40 PM
Post #65 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ok the date we have set as of now is the second weekend in April so let us know if your gonna go. its RSVP TIME!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Feb 17, 2002, 1:04 AM
Post #66 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
Greyghost et al.. I understand that you are bummed at paying for something that once was free. I been in this situation numerous times. Camping on National forest land that now cost money, state parks charging day use fee for mnt. biking, etc... BUT what is worse is losing an area altogether. Take a look at Blackwater Canyon in W.Va. and see what other private owners are doing. You can't camp at some of the coolest overlooks, hike, bike and enjoy areas that were recently open to all!! Condos are being built as I write. Seneca also charges. We pay the rangers salary, trail maintenance, bathrooms cleaning etc., with taxes but you don't see it leave your pockets. What is great with NRP is that you may actually have a say in it's improvement. We should as climbers embrace this situation and help improve the area. With US 66 on it's way to W.Va., private property will get developed and to have an area developed for climbing can ONLY be good. Later Charlie
PS Thanks Stu
|
|
|
|
|
mountainrat
Feb 18, 2002, 12:24 PM
Post #67 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 22, 2001
Posts: 416
|
My "droogs" and I (hahaha) just had a fantastic time at Nelson this weekend. Thanks again Stu for showing me and my cohorts some cool TR's ("NA_IOU", or Brian, is still amazed at having cleaned that overhang- I'm still amazed he did it, too!)
We appreciate the time you spent with us, the route beta you showed us, the experience & expertise you so willingly shared with us as we shelled you with rookie questions, and most importantly the crag you you run so smoothly on your own blood, sweat and tears.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 19, 2002, 5:56 PM
Post #68 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ok this is totally off topic now we need a head count of who knows they can do the second weekend in April.
|
|
|
|
|
clymberboy
Feb 19, 2002, 7:11 PM
Post #69 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 15, 2001
Posts: 136
|
i'm definitely gonna try, but can't give a definitive yes just yet.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Feb 19, 2002, 9:57 PM
Post #70 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
i just need si9mple replys now guys just post yes or no and ill take it to stu let him know
|
|
|
|
|
ironmask
Feb 22, 2002, 9:52 PM
Post #71 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 5, 2001
Posts: 41
|
Yes
|
|
|
|
|
clymberboy
Feb 22, 2002, 11:36 PM
Post #72 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 15, 2001
Posts: 136
|
count me as yes.
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Mar 3, 2002, 6:20 PM
Post #73 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
ok thats 2
|
|
|
|
|
clymberboy
Mar 26, 2002, 1:47 PM
Post #74 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 15, 2001
Posts: 136
|
whats the latest news on this . . .
|
|
|
|
|
ironmask
Apr 9, 2002, 2:22 PM
Post #75 of 89
(7405 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 5, 2001
Posts: 41
|
Whats the Deal here, Still on? I got like 4 guys that want to come with me...
|
|
|
|
|
clymberboy
Apr 9, 2002, 11:13 PM
Post #76 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 15, 2001
Posts: 136
|
your guess is as good as mine!
i have a few interested as well, but haven't seen anything posted here. i contacted stu (aka oozinpustule) & he is more than happy to have people come out. we just need to organize! the cabins need to ne reserved in advance, & i'm not sure where the nearest campsite would be.
i'm still trying to get a head count from my group. argh! they are starting to think about postponing a week & going to seneca then.
|
|
|
|
|
rrrADAM
Apr 12, 2002, 10:52 AM
Post #77 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 19, 1999
Posts: 17553
|
oozie... I still need to get the stuff back to you that you let me borrow.
|
|
|
|
|
pattray
Apr 12, 2002, 11:47 AM
Post #78 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 294
|
The weather looks bad for this weekend, I will be climbing next weekend at Seneca or if someone can talk me into going to Looking Glass NC I will go.
Pat T
|
|
|
|
|
clymberboy
Apr 12, 2002, 12:53 PM
Post #79 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 15, 2001
Posts: 136
|
it looks like my group is opting for next weekend
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Apr 15, 2002, 1:14 AM
Post #80 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
hey guys im back from a non-computer life i hope i havenbt missed it but is the event still going on? PM with info
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
Apr 15, 2002, 2:54 AM
Post #81 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
I'm a little confused zlipper. I thought you posted you were organizing this weekend, didn't you go? How about another try in two weekends, can you make the last weekend in April or is anyone else interested in meeting up for the 27/28th? I am thinking of heading south that weekend and it would be cool to meet up with some RC.com'ers. I was thinking of either NRP or Seneca. Any takers?
|
|
|
|
|
zlipper
Apr 16, 2002, 7:18 PM
Post #82 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2001
Posts: 383
|
imm deffinantly willing to meet up for this one. the last one i was in classes all weekend so i couldnt but deff wanna go this tinme around i think ill need a ride though
but ill talk to my buds un;ess i get a new car
|
|
|
|
|
pattray
Apr 16, 2002, 10:31 PM
Post #83 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 294
|
I will be climbing at Seneca on the 20th and I'm interested in meeting you guys, that is, if you can get the meeting together (7 pages to this thread and no firm date , what gives)
|
|
|
|
|
charrock
Apr 18, 2002, 1:39 AM
Post #84 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 14, 2001
Posts: 364
|
This was a bust!!!! I blew out my ankle 2 weeks ago so I couldn't make it. I know clymberboy tried to get it going but little response. Pattray, he's going this weekend to Seneca with our local group PM him if you want to hookup with him. Zlipper & Mountainrat what happen guys?? Darkside I'm impressed that you want to drive so far, I hope to climb with you. I don't want to commit until the ankle is better. 2nd time I fu** it up running in the last 4 weeks. I'm giving up running. I'm gonna try it out this wknd to see how it handles climbing. It's still swollen tho'. Later Charlie
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
Apr 18, 2002, 3:06 AM
Post #85 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
Pat: last weekend was supposed to be the weekend. I wondered how it went, not so good it would appear.
Charley: it's not that I want to drive so far, I just want to make it down there again. I was at the New last year but I haven't been to Seneca since the year before. I had heard of NRP but with no beta, I have never been. With RC.com, comes beta If I make it down there soon and your ankle is good, I'd be happy to climb with you.
Stu: I hope we can meet when I get down there. If I see PTPP I'll try to keep the secret but if he asks, I cannot lie
All: If anyone is interested, I will post when I make it down, either the last weekend of the month or early May. I'm not so much trying to make an RC trip as hoping to meet some of you when I do make it.
|
|
|
|
|
pattray
Apr 18, 2002, 1:55 PM
Post #86 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 294
|
For anyone thats interested, My climbing partner and I will be climbing at Old Rag on Sat, I'm thinking that the under growth is stating to grow making it almost impossible to get back into the Reflector Oven area, so I better do it this weekend, there is a climb called Strawberry fields, and its going to be ticked on Sat. Anyone want to come along.
|
|
|
|
|
pattray
Apr 22, 2002, 11:04 PM
Post #87 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 294
|
Sat the 27th and Sun 28th. Some friends and I will be climbing at Seneca.
Sat night we will be at the front porch, Anyone that wants to come along is welcome.
Sat, Sn and Mon. the 4th, 5th and the 6th of May. We will be meeting up with some friends in NC to climb at Looking Glass. All are welcome to come along again.
|
|
|
|
|
darkside
May 1, 2002, 4:22 PM
Post #88 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 15, 2001
Posts: 1687
|
Well I am finally getting down to WV and Pat is heading further south, damm luck of the irish.
I will most likely be at NRP Saturday and Seneca Sunday with a couple of other RC'ers but may need a partner so if anyone is in the area and would like to meet then post or PM. If you see someone with red hair and a funny accent then shout up and put a face to your username.
Is anyone else going to be around?
|
|
|
|
|
pattray
May 2, 2002, 1:13 PM
Post #89 of 89
(6644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Mar 26, 2002
Posts: 294
|
Good luck at Seneca, W've added Moore's wall NC to this weekend aswell if anyone is interested in going.
|
|
|
|
|
|
