But we don't plan our death: Instead, we plan our life.
Yes. And PTFTWs. You gotta plan those.
Yikes! WTF does PTFTW mean? Google search found this thread: Biker Forum and I still don't know what it means!
Should I duck? Or run?
Page Turn For The Win
A childish and juvenile way to claim that you won an internet argument by being the first post on the top of the page. It is a common joke among post whores because there are often useless posts before and after which contribute to their post count. A fun and useless pastime for people and their avatars.
I would go 1/1000 on the million. 1/250 on the billion. Maaaaaayybe 1/100 on the billion but I think that would just be a spur of the moment decision.
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
Never didn't mean I don't have a price (everybody has a price for the million dollar man), it is that in a crowd I would, in all likelihood, never be the lowest bidder.
But thats not really the point of the discussion. What spike, and myself in the aforementioned toe acquisition project, are interested is what you would sell your soul for. Of course none of us believe in souls so this is basically the next best thing.
I sold my soul in college for a smoke, so I have a low threshold of spirituality.
I don't like bad bets, I would like at least 1,000,00:1 on a set for life number, but even then I would not likely do it. I've already chosen a happy life over a wealthy life, and I don't regret it.
I don't see it as an either/or proposition.
I consider my self to be generally content with my life but several million dollars would allow me to stop working. To not spend 50+ hours a week doing something I don't want to do would be well worth a certain risk of death.
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
In your scenario, you tried to establish a dollar level for the choice. A million dollars, or a billion. That's one hell of spread. And the reason you couldn't pin a "fair" value on the challenge was because there is no fair value when you compare the benefit to lower level of needs, further down in Maslow's hierarchy. It doesn't work.
It does "work". All the time actually.
I choose to solo occasionally because it makes me happy and I do so knowing full well that I may fall and if that happens, I will likely die. And yet, up I go.
A large sum of money on it's own will not make me happy but it will enable a lifestyle that I believe will make me happier than I currently am. Like I said, simply not having to go to work would cause a large increase in my relative happiness.
In both scenarios, the risk is the same (death) and the reward is the same (happiness). This whole notion that a risk of death you can actively mitigate (climbing, driving a car, working, etc...) and a risk of death that is purely probabilistic are different in some meaningful way is confoundingly irrational. It is all in your head.
For my part, I will say this though. I would risk much worse odds on a money/death gamble, than I would on a money/loss of both legs gamble.
I'm not sure any amount of money could make up for the quality of life reductions from losing two or more limbs, for example. Where as if I lose the money/death gamble, quality of life is no longer an issue. It's certainly not a win/win scenario but it's much more of a win/nothing scenario. Which I find much more palatable.
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
I'll cut off my right pinky toe for ya. You just have to pay me $5K and pay for the medical treatment.
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
I'll cut off my right pinky toe for ya. You just have to pay me $5K and pay for the medical treatment.
My current budget is only $1,300 and I have 2 other people at $5K so we are a ways away from a deal.
Does the fact that you only have to cut back to the first joint affect your price?
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
I'll cut off my right pinky toe for ya. You just have to pay me $5K and pay for the medical treatment.
My current budget is only $1,300 and I have 2 other people at $5K so we are a ways away from a deal.
Does the fact that you only have to cut back to the first joint affect your price?
Well for $1,300 I'd have a doctor cut off my pinkie toe, the whole thing.
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
I'll cut off my right pinky toe for ya. You just have to pay me $5K and pay for the medical treatment.
My current budget is only $1,300 and I have 2 other people at $5K so we are a ways away from a deal.
Does the fact that you only have to cut back to the first joint affect your price?
Sold. However, I do not yet meet all the qualifications (I am not someone you know), but we can work on that. The fact of the matter is that the end of my pinky toe is pretty nasty and I wouldn't mind being rid of it anyway. So, this sounds like a win-win situation, you sadistic freak. Let me know the details, and I'm sure we can work something out. We need to get going on this though, the climbing season in MT is gonna get under way here pretty soon.
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
I'll cut off my right pinky toe for ya. You just have to pay me $5K and pay for the medical treatment.
My current budget is only $1,300 and I have 2 other people at $5K so we are a ways away from a deal.
Does the fact that you only have to cut back to the first joint affect your price?
Sold. However, I do not yet meet all the qualifications (I am not someone you know), but we can work on that. The fact of the matter is that the end of my pinky toe is pretty nasty and I wouldn't mind being rid of it anyway. So, this sounds like a win-win situation, you sadistic freak. Let me know the details, and I'm sure we can work something out. We need to get going on this though, the climbing season in MT is gonna get under way here pretty soon.
Nope andstone. You're behind me in line for the $1,300 pinky toe amputation.
NA we need to set this up before spring starts so I can still have a full season of backpackin'
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
I'll cut off my right pinky toe for ya. You just have to pay me $5K and pay for the medical treatment.
My current budget is only $1,300 and I have 2 other people at $5K so we are a ways away from a deal.
Does the fact that you only have to cut back to the first joint affect your price?
Sold. However, I do not yet meet all the qualifications (I am not someone you know), but we can work on that. The fact of the matter is that the end of my pinky toe is pretty nasty and I wouldn't mind being rid of it anyway. So, this sounds like a win-win situation, you sadistic freak. Let me know the details, and I'm sure we can work something out. We need to get going on this though, the climbing season in MT is gonna get under way here pretty soon.
Nope andstone. You're behind me in line for the $1,300 pinky toe amputation.
NA we need to set this up before spring starts so I can still have a full season of backpackin'
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
I'll cut off my right pinky toe for ya. You just have to pay me $5K and pay for the medical treatment.
My current budget is only $1,300 and I have 2 other people at $5K so we are a ways away from a deal.
Does the fact that you only have to cut back to the first joint affect your price?
Sold. However, I do not yet meet all the qualifications (I am not someone you know), but we can work on that. The fact of the matter is that the end of my pinky toe is pretty nasty and I wouldn't mind being rid of it anyway. So, this sounds like a win-win situation, you sadistic freak. Let me know the details, and I'm sure we can work something out. We need to get going on this though, the climbing season in MT is gonna get under way here pretty soon.
Nope andstone. You're behind me in line for the $1,300 pinky toe amputation.
NA we need to set this up before spring starts so I can still have a full season of backpackin'
I can go lower: $1200
Nope, I'm offering my entire pinky toe for $1,300. You're just offering the tip for $1,200.
Oh and I'll even have the toe preserved and sent to NA.
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
I'll cut off my right pinky toe for ya. You just have to pay me $5K and pay for the medical treatment.
My current budget is only $1,300 and I have 2 other people at $5K so we are a ways away from a deal.
Does the fact that you only have to cut back to the first joint affect your price?
Sold. However, I do not yet meet all the qualifications (I am not someone you know), but we can work on that. The fact of the matter is that the end of my pinky toe is pretty nasty and I wouldn't mind being rid of it anyway. So, this sounds like a win-win situation, you sadistic freak. Let me know the details, and I'm sure we can work something out. We need to get going on this though, the climbing season in MT is gonna get under way here pretty soon.
Nope andstone. You're behind me in line for the $1,300 pinky toe amputation.
NA we need to set this up before spring starts so I can still have a full season of backpackin'
I can go lower: $1200
Nope, I'm offering my entire pinky toe for $1,300. You're just offering the tip for $1,200.
Oh and I'll even have the toe preserved and sent to NA.
Those who have said "never", much like Greg's refusal to sell me a toe, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU.
You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.
I could get myself a toe, if the toe was all I wanted. I want to pay someone I know personally to cut off their own toe. This would amuse me very much.
I'll cut off my right pinky toe for ya. You just have to pay me $5K and pay for the medical treatment.
My current budget is only $1,300 and I have 2 other people at $5K so we are a ways away from a deal.
Does the fact that you only have to cut back to the first joint affect your price?
Sold. However, I do not yet meet all the qualifications (I am not someone you know), but we can work on that. The fact of the matter is that the end of my pinky toe is pretty nasty and I wouldn't mind being rid of it anyway. So, this sounds like a win-win situation, you sadistic freak. Let me know the details, and I'm sure we can work something out. We need to get going on this though, the climbing season in MT is gonna get under way here pretty soon.
Nope andstone. You're behind me in line for the $1,300 pinky toe amputation.
NA we need to set this up before spring starts so I can still have a full season of backpackin'
I can go lower: $1200
Nope, I'm offering my entire pinky toe for $1,300. You're just offering the tip for $1,200.
Oh and I'll even have the toe preserved and sent to NA.
These are the parameters as layed out in the SPCI and to friends I've talked to about this in person.
1. You have to do the cutting
2. I have to witness it
3. You cannot use a numbing agent and you have to be sober at the time of removal.
The 4th unstated one (it was unstated because of whom I was addressing) is that I need, or rather want to know and like the person. I hesitated before making the offer in the SPCI because although I do consider those who post there to be friends, I don't have the same kind of emotional or intellectual fondness for them as I do people I've know personally for years, so they are borderline on meeting that 4th requirement. Both of you OTOH do not meet the 4th criteria.
That said, your offers are also the best I have received to date. So if either of you are willing to meet those 3 requirements, I will strongly consider it.
Oh and you can keep the toe, I don't have any use for it. You can even reattach it if you want, doesn't matter to me.
I'm bored, so say you get a solid approximation of the odds of you dying in a soloing accident, then you get as many revolvers and bullets as needed to match the odds, would you go through with the roullette gamble?
I'm bored, so say you get a solid approximation of the odds of you dying in a soloing accident, then you get as many revolvers and bullets as needed to match the odds, would you go through with the roullette gamble?
Just set the min/max to the odds that you would bet. It's got a maximum value of 100,000,000, so if yours is higher then that you'll just have to assume you dodged the bullet.
I chose the 1:50 odds.
Then imagine a number in your head that is between those numbers. Click the "generate" button. If your generated number is the same as the number you were thinking of, you're dead, dead as shit. If not, congrats, you made the right choice.
I was thinking of the number 6.
My generated number was 5.
Whew, that was a little closer than I expected! Now where's my million dollars?
Just set the min/max to the odds that you would bet. It's got a maximum value of 100,000,000, so if yours is higher then that you'll just have to assume you dodged the bullet.
I chose the 1:50 odds.
Then imagine a number in your head that is between those numbers. Click the "generate" button. If your generated number is the same as the number you were thinking of, you're dead, dead as shit. If not, congrats, you made the right choice.
I was thinking of the number 6.
My generated number was 5.
Whew, that was a little closer than I expected! Now where's my million dollars?
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