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climbinvixen
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We need a forum of our own. Philly is 5 hours away! We are need to meet and climb. Any interest?
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mrmojorisin
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Hey,
I live in central PA so I'm half way between both. I don't currently have a climbing partner so I haven't been climbing much and would love to start getting out again. I have knowledge about many central PA areas and would love to check out some new ones and I don't mind a bit of travel. PM me if interested.
Ken
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charley
Nov 24, 2004, 10:41 PM
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I never seem to get much of a response from this part of the state. Where do you climb in wpa. I climb at McConnells mills, Lisbon, Ohio, The Connellsville area, Coopers, Seneca/Nelsons, NRG, and Bellfonte. I climb most weekends and try to climb as much of the year as possible. I live 35 min. from Mcc mill.
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overzealous
Nov 25, 2004, 12:34 AM
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I live in Pittsburgh and have a pretty solid set of climbing partners, but I'm always up for meeting and climbing with new people.
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charley
Nov 25, 2004, 12:55 AM
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Chris, Do you climb with ECP?
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overzealous
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In reply to: Chris, Do you climb with ECP?
Yes I climb with the ECP and a group out of Pitt (where I graduated from). Lately I've been doing more with the ECP though.
Are you involved with them?
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Oh hey I believe I know you, had no idea you posted on here.
(edited once I looked at the name in Charley's profile)
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climbinvixen
Nov 25, 2004, 3:42 AM
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This is a great start. We should make this a sticky and we'll be rockin!
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charley
Nov 25, 2004, 1:57 PM
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I thought your name was familiar. I'm an ecp member but don't climb with them alot. I may have met you at the mill on wed nite. I have been to seneca with them a cpl times. I've also climbed with Phil Sidel and some of the pitt outdoor club before.
I also have a group, mostly from pittsburgh, that I climb with, but am always willing to go with someone new or take someone out. This is not the best time of year to get something like this rolling but having access to partners would be nice.
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climbinvixen
Nov 26, 2004, 6:05 AM
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I asked Phil to make this a sticky so it wouldn't get lost. Now we have a place to find partners, vent, fall in love or hate, all the things we need to do! So big thanks to our Aussie friend.
Let's enthusiastically post and make this a success, for if we ignore it, it might as well die.
Is anyone climbing in this weather, excited about ice climbing, or moving indoor? Let's get the conversation humming!
Thanks.
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climbinvixen
Nov 26, 2004, 3:42 PM
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In reply to: Hey, I live in central PA so I'm half way between both. I don't currently have a climbing partner so I haven't been climbing much and would love to start getting out again. I have knowledge about many central PA areas and would love to check out some new ones and I don't mind a bit of travel. PM me if interested. Ken
Hey Ken,
Why not tell us where you climb around your area. Maybe there's some overlap on the fringes
Vixen
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simzboardr
Nov 26, 2004, 5:08 PM
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'bout time we got a forum started. I live in Hershey and will pretty much drive to climb anywhere. At the moment i'm going to school in Montana but this spring and summer i'll be up for some climbing.
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climbinvixen
Nov 26, 2004, 7:09 PM
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Here's an idea. Anytime we go climbing, post it here with a contact# so our central PA friends (and anyone else) have a way to participate.
Charly, if you're going to climb, post it here and invite everyone to join you. Who knows who'll show.
ECP members, post climbing trips on here, but spell out any restrictions or costs.
As more poeple share their climbing information, imagine how fine our climbing will be!
However, if it's a real cozy twosome, and three's a crows, just PM me the details later please.
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mountainman
Nov 27, 2004, 1:51 AM
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Hey Vixen,
Don't ask, don't tell.
What a great idea and many thanks for your time and energy getting it going. Ice season is coming, let's share our plans and make a community of this.
Trip reports are a great idea too. I think people would like to read them. I see 140 people have viewed this thread but only a few local climbers have chimed in. Let's go, we've got to catch those Mass climbers.
O and Vixen, how about posting a picture?
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mountainman
Nov 27, 2004, 4:33 AM
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Ha Ha, icy baby
Here's a question: what's up with Derry High Rocks? We climbed there many times this year, but now there are rumors.
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overzealous
Nov 27, 2004, 5:28 AM
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Derry High Rocks is closed. The local Access fund was doing some work (along with the ECP) to work out something wiht the title holder that would allow climbing there.
There is some debate as to who actually holds the title to the land (there are at least two potiential owners) but both have stated that they do not want anyone trespassing on their land.
If you want more information I could forward your email address to the ECP project head for this and ask her to fill you in.
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it is a shame about derry high rocks. i always thought that if we climbers could organize a "clean up day" and actually make efforts to clean up these peoples property, they might be a little more prone to giving access to climbers. i know that the local VFW's and rescue services teach alot of ropes classes up there and rescue classes, so there is a chance of workingh something out, lets stay posted on derry, what a wondeful climbing area.
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climbinvixen
Nov 27, 2004, 4:05 PM
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Thanks for that Derry info. My experience is that small parties continue to climb there without incident, but if a large party asks permission, even for a worthy project such as a cleanup, they're told no.
Another pet peeve. When can we get some bolts at Coopers? Why must we kill every tree and trample the underbrush to toprope the Sunset Wall, when a handful of bolts would fix the problem.
It just seems that the climbing community cannot get their act together. Any thoughts on this subject?
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sidelclimbing
Nov 27, 2004, 4:33 PM
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Happy to come aboard.
I plan to start at "The Climbing Wall" in January to get back in some kind of shape. Will be looking for partners (not keen on bouldering). Toproping outside when weather turns reasonably warm and dry. Will be with POC on their Spring Seneca trip and will be much involved with ECP Rock School in late April and May.
If I don't get in much better climbing condition, I will not try leading any more. An unexpected leader fall on an easy climb last month warns me that it is probably time to step back from the sharp end.
Phil Sidel
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climbinvixen
Nov 27, 2004, 5:02 PM
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Hey Old Timer,
I'd sure like a report on that leader fall. Care to share? Are you working on your aerobic fitness? Any other exercises to get ready for what's to come?
Did anyone get out today (Saturday) for climbing? A beautiful day!
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mountainman
Nov 28, 2004, 11:29 PM
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Hi,
I wish someone would put some bolts above the most climbed routes in Coopers. Maybe over the top a couple inches so they're not visible from the trail, but close enough that you snap 2 quickdraws, clip your short raope, and you're rigged. Why can't this be done before all the trees are dead, and we're forced to do it anyway.
I thought climbers were enviroment loving people, so what's the problem?
I'll tell you the problem. Somebody was dry tooling at McConnells Mill, on a route called many thing, like ROTC Block, Rapple Block. and pulled off a key hold. I've worked and worked but can't get through it. Isn't there enough choss to play on, or did you want to ruin a great route? Why didn't you glue it back on? What is up with you guys?
I see 300 views, but nobody is posting. Use or lose it. Why would anybody check to see what's happening if it's dry and dusty.
Just a few thoughts.
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charley
Nov 29, 2004, 12:08 AM
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The route with the missing hold at the mill has been climbed by some but sure not me. I still can't do the easy var.
I just got back from a weekend at Seneca. The climbing was fine. It was cold except when in direct sun and when the wind blew it was cold. It rained last night and this morning so I left early. 44' with little wind is ok to climb in. 50 with wind is cold but doable. There were no waiting lines on anything. :lol:
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hey ya'll, wonder if you would let someone from wv join in with you. my family is from aliquippa and i wouldnt mind doing some climbing in wpa when i am home. kind of laid out at the moment due to a motorcycle accident, but hoping to get back on the rock in jan.
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climbinvixen
Nov 29, 2004, 12:25 AM
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MM-Thanks for posting. I hope you start a lively debate, but mellow out before you pop a fuse.
Charley-Thanks for the TR. What did you climb? Did your hands get cold?
Zap-Welcome. Please tell us about yourself, where you live, and what you climb. If you're living in Seneca Rocks, you'll be very loved by us all. Watch out!
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mountainman
Nov 29, 2004, 1:27 AM
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Mellow? Pop? I haven't even started warming up.
I met a guy named Rob this summer, who thinks every rock in the area is his personal property, and believes he has a right to chop any bolt he finds. I even heard about him sending anonymous (hah) letters to Tim Anderson, (who developed Lost Crag and Breakneck), making idle threats.
Climbers in Connecticut had to be a restraining order against Ken Nichols, who wrote the climbing guide for CT, because he too thought the rock was his, and kept chopping their bolts.
Is this what's needed here? Restraing orders?
As for Coopers bolts, should the idea be run by the state park first? Goodby good idea.
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charley
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Climbed kaufman - cardon. Hands were cold for a few minutes, then were ok. I led the first pitch and that tends to warm me up. Was a bit chilly belaying.
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climbinvixen
Nov 29, 2004, 12:15 PM
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A lot of questions are being asked, I hope as people get comfortable with the forum they'll add their voices. Remember, what's said in the forum, stays in the forum.
It's getting a little cold for rock, but will it be another great ice season? Here's a nice picture to whet our appetites. Click to enlarge.
http://img114.exs.cx/img114/4324/DLT3.th.jpg
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Nov 29, 2004, 12:45 PM
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Your hardcore Bill!
Adam P at the Coopers Rocks Foundation was supposed to be taking the lead as I understand it with regard to the top anchors. The top was surveyed and a map of suggested anchor placements was provided shortly after last years trail day but not sure whats been done since then.... I try to support what the CRF does but Adam has the relationship with the land manager there..that said Old painless is a a mere two hours away from two full battery charges if needed.
The broken hold on Laid Back at the Mill hasnt really changed the move too much..maybe a little more body tension but basically the same sequence....I'm not sure whats worse the dry tooling on the wall or the two bolts that appeared on Ross Boulder last fall (12' high) below it.
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mountainman
Nov 29, 2004, 2:28 PM
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Charley-Wouldn't it have been a lot warmer on the east side?
Rackrat-Maybe that broken hold hasn't impacted you because you climb 5.13, but as one with slightly less stellar ability, I need a hold as I come over the roof. Supposedly, that was the hold. Bummer.
Anybody ever climb around Breakneck Bridge at the Mills? I worked on Zorro a couple times and really liked the wild start.
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microbarn
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Wow, I am glad you have a person on their for scale. It is much more impressive. For a min. I didn't see the rope and thought he was free soloing it.
I am in Pgh too and am more than willing to head out with others. I have been climbing since January and started sport leading late this summer. Currently, I have only done top roping and sport leading. I would love to follow someone to start learning the placements and have them critique what I think I already know.
Anyone want a follower? I go to the climbing wall usually Monday and Thursday nights if you want to meet up sometime.
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MM...which route at Bneck is Zorro?... I have stayed away from Bneck last year and this season just cause its been two wet seasons in a row up there. Also I wasn't trying to be smarta!@ about Laidback... 3 of us jumped on it after the hold broke thinking it would be a lot different but it was consensus that it hadnt changed it that radically(unless its broken even more). Peace...
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microbarn
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I heard that Breakneck was getting torn down for logging or something. Does anyone know any more about this?
Is there anything that needs to be done to help this situation?
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climbinvixen
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Rockrat,
Could Adam P come on the Forum and tell everyone what's going on re: Coppers bolts for toproping? I leave it in your hands.
Hey everybody, remember this isn't my forum, it's yours. I think every climber in the area should make him or herself known and help us become the stronger posse in the world.
OK I dream, but The Vixen is proud of all of you for making this a success. Long overdue. Spread the word please. Tell every climber you know. And if you get sick of me adding my 2 cents, just say so. It won't help, but freedom is where it's at man.
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mountainman
Nov 29, 2004, 10:36 PM
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There's Breakneck Bridge area at the Mills, and Breakneck Rock at Connellsville.
Zorro is at Breakneck Bridge. You start up a ramp to the right until you can grab the crack, traverse back to the left, climb up and back to the right, and try to get over the roof.
Breakneck Rock has a new road bulldozed where the trail used to be. The rock is intact, but something is happening here. Any beta RR?
Vixen, thanks for the impassioned start, but enough is enough. Dry up and blow away! Actually, I hope everybody sends you a lot of love and thanks. It's the talk of the community! You rock, girl! Now post a picture if you're not hideously disfigured.
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microbarn
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In reply to: Now post a picture if you're not hideously disfigured.
You're one to speak. I didn't find any for you.
Of course, I don't have any of myself either. ...hmmmmmmm I will work on that
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climbinvixen
Nov 30, 2004, 1:20 AM
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Remember, all pictures should display your charms to best advantage. No scrubs.
As for me, can it be a real old picture, like when I was 18 and looked kiiler in a bikini?
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Ah..I was gonna guess that was what you were calling Zorro just from the well defined "Z" line... theres also a very fun one move (well maybe 2) wonder that goes straight up the face from the start of the ramp thats worth projecting... as for BN Rocks...
I was contacted by some friends who climb with the ECP regarding the timbering etc... At that stage, about a month ago, there was a rumor immediately circulating (as they do) that the cliff was going to be dynamited to provide egress for a logging road to the top. I asked Tim if he could please follow up since he obviously has the most at stake having developed the cliff and also knows some locals. I do understand the property changed hands since it was initially developed. Common sense tells me that it would not be cost effective to blast and move a 60' cliff when one can snake a skidder trail 50' left and some calls to civil engineer friends confirmed this. Thats not to say that a floating block or two down on the shelf might not be fair game but the area shows signs of prior logging and the blocks survived that round. If I hear any more Ill post it here.
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climbinvixen
Nov 30, 2004, 11:06 PM
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Exciting news. Lurking on our forum is the local head of the Access Fund.
If you have any questions of an access nature, quit viewing and start posting! Use it or lose it, just like your sacred business.
These are things well known to the Vixen.
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well ya could ask anytime...my email is on the AF site and i check the email alot more than this site (2 weeks of a bug drives people to strange behavior) ...but not sure I'll have answers..or ones anyone wants to hear.
BUT this post is about: Climb North lost its gym manager last week. If anyone knows someone whos qualified and interested they should contact Elaine Jewart, the owner. If they want some basic beta about the wall they could PM or email me. Ill accept belay time as my "placement fee"
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Excuse me as I butt in...
I'm from the Pittsburgh area and usually climb near Connellsville, in the Laurel Highlands and at the Mills when I'm around. Right now I'm in Central PA so Bellefonte is my usual climbing area. I've been leading some trad, sport and aid (sorry climbinvixen, no ice but I'd sure like to try) and feel pretty confident on the easy/moderate routes.
I'm especially fond of long easy trad routes so if anyone is looking to take a roadtrip, I'd certainly be up for it.
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climbinvixen
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Welcome Tom,
Several central PA brothers have announced their presence. I've not been to Bellefonte, so if might be fun to have a meet there. Climb and post some mug shots. (memo) must go on diet, ASAP!
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Oh don't worry, my ugly mug is already in my profile.
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well hey all to the Western Pa ppl. I live in E-town, wich is located in Lancaster county. Have some of the best bouldering on the east coast around these parts, glad to show anyone the areas i know, GS, Gretna, D Rock, Chickes and a few assirted small places. Waiting for Safe Harbor to open, cant wait. I climb anything, dont care if its choss or a building, just love to climb. Well hope to hear from some of ya, be safe and have fun climbing.
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planning a day bouldering at Gretna this Friday 12/3 if anyone is intersted let me know, ill rpobly be hitting one of the gyms on sunday too well chat to ya later.
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In reply to: so if anyone is looking to take a roadtrip, I'd certainly be up for it.
Jesus Christ Tom, isn't Zion, Red Rocks, and the Valley enough for you? :twisted:
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Let's pray for a warm weekend day in December (NOT a home Steelers game) and have a WPCF climb and party day at Bellefonte. Who's up for this? Prayer that is. Ha!
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In reply to: Happy to come aboard. I plan to start at "The Climbing Wall" in January to get back in some kind of shape. Will be looking for partners (not keen on bouldering). Toproping outside when weather turns reasonably warm and dry. Will be with POC on their Spring Seneca trip and will be much involved with ECP Rock School in late April and May. If I don't get in much better climbing condition, I will not try leading any more. An unexpected leader fall on an easy climb last month warns me that it is probably time to step back from the sharp end. Phil Sidel
Glad to see you on here Phil. Figured I say hello since I wasn't sure you knew my username on here.
- Chris
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WPCF??
what does that stand for?
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Opps, means "Western PA Climbers Forum"
still too early in the morning for me to be alert
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If the forecast beckons, is there any interest ina Bellefonte trip to meet our easter troop?
The resounding silence after I mentioned it hurt my ears.
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In reply to: In reply to: so if anyone is looking to take a roadtrip, I'd certainly be up for it. Jesus Christ Tom, isn't Zion, Red Rocks, and the Valley enough for you? :twisted:
Enough? Seriously Eric, don't you know me better by now? I don't practice restraint in drinking, bad hygiene or general sketchiness. Why should it be any different for trips? Then again, why am I giving up Seneca for school projects this weekend? I am a boy who like his contradictions.
P.S. We now both have 3.5s that need scratches put on them.
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In reply to: If the forecast beckons, is there any interest ina Bellefonte trip to meet our easter troop? The resounding silence after I mentioned it hurt my ears.
That's sounds like a good idea but I don't know if the weather is going to cooperate. For some reason State College is the center for crappy weather. Also the semester is closing up soon so myself and that antagonist, fixednut, might not be climbing too many more days. Nevermind, you should all come and climb anyway!
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In reply to: If the forecast beckons, is there any interest ina Bellefonte trip to meet our easter troop? The resounding silence after I mentioned it hurt my ears.
That's sounds like a good idea but I don't know if the weather is going to cooperate. For some reason State College is a magnet for crappy weather. Also the semester is closing up soon so myself and that antagonist, fixednut, might not be climbing too many more days. Nevermind, you should all come and climb anyway!
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I live fifteen minutes from the Bellefonte quarry and it has been my home crag since I have started climbing. So needless to say I know it pretty well, if you guys are coming to check it out let me know and I might be able to meet up with you. I haven't been climbing much recently but have been itching to get back into my harness again.
Plus if you are interested there are a few other very nice bouldering areas to check out, Hunters Rock is only 40 minutes away and is well worth the drive.
climbinvixen let me know if you are coming up this way and maybe I can show you folks around.
Ken
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Dec 2, 2004, 5:58 PM
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Hey guys I have been looking for people to climb with for a long time. I go to school at IUP (Indiana), but I only climb on the weekends. I haven't climbed since the beginning of the fall semester and I am going to be at the factory climbing gym in Pitt on this Saturday. I would be glad to meet some people so I can practice with them. I like both bouldering and sport climbing+leading. I am from Bulgaria (Europe) and I have been climbing for 3 years. I am pretty good when I get in shape if it matters to some people. If there is someone that wants to climb at the factory gym in Pittsburgh please let me know!
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charley
Dec 2, 2004, 11:42 PM
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I'm always up for atrip to bfonte. Hi Phil and others here I know. Good to see this getting off. Hope it stays through the winter. There is some ice climbing in the area though. Remember there are some access issues at bfonte. If you live near pburgh and I79 you can be at the nrg in about the same time. Then pilot mnt., nc. is only another 4 hrs. or less. I was climbing at seneca and it was cold this past wknd. Bellfonte shouldn't be windy but it doesn't get sunny this time of year either.
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Over a thousand views and 53 posts. Don't be shy, this is a warm and friendly place!
More people have viewed this site in 1 week then have viewed the old PA site in 11+ months!
It's getting colder but it doesn't seem like winter yet. Maybe some warm days will magically appear.
Charley, NC does sound nice, and isn't that far away. Do you know some places?
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Check the routes data base for nc. Pilot mnt is toproping and some sport. I've been there once. Stone mnt is only an hour from pilot and moores is in the same area. They tell me you can climb all year there. Linville gorge would be very cold though.
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Hi Yinz!
Another Central PA climber here - I live in Lewisburg where there is zero local climbing, but some good ice forms up the river in Montgomery. I usually climb at the coal slag areas of Mocanaqua, though Bellefonte isn't that much further and Bellefonte is where I cut my climbing teeth. I love the thin friction stuff on sketchy homemade bolts at the quarry :D Also climb occasionally at Hunters and am close enough to the Gunks to head there every now and then. Right now I am jonesing for cold, very cold, weather to start freezing stuff up (sorry vixen I know you still wanna climb rock). Dry tooling in the garage will get old soon.
-geo
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Dec 4, 2004, 1:01 PM
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Hi Geo,
Welcome and make yourself at home.
You mention areas beyond the Vixen's ken. Care to say anything about "the coal slag areas of Mocanaqua", which sounds quite funky.
And just how psychic are you? I was doing a little dry tooling night before last. Is is nice, but this inbetween doesn't do anyone any good.
The Vixen also knows not Hunters. Please elucidate.
Everyone,
Here is a link to Tim Anderson's Climb PA web site. Lots of information about local rock and ice, as well as photos, trip reports and links to other local web pages.
http://www.climbpa.telerama.com/
Highly recommended for those wishing to get off the beaten path a little.
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charley
Dec 4, 2004, 2:38 PM
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I think donation is in the routes data base here. It is well off the beaten path, well south of state college. I hope someone went to seneca today. It is 50 and sunny, nicer tmorrow.
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geologic
Dec 4, 2004, 4:33 PM
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Yeah, Hunter's is a great bouldering area between State College and Huntington. Mocanaqua is near Berwick (there's some route info here on Moc as well) - just this side of the Poconos. The climbing is decent - a mix of bolted and trad lines. I've got some pictures on my website (still under major reconstruction....). Today it's a bike ride for me and some more clawing around the garage with plastic boots and ice axes.
Later
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charley
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Guess I was thinking of donation not hunters.
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geologic
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Donation is just down the road from Hunters and a lot easier to find. Not bad either - used to be my main stomping ground when I lived in State College.
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I'd be very interested in climbing some ice with you. Are you TRing, leading? How tall are the flows?
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Have any of you done any of the boulder problems around the Donegal area and if so is there a guide book for any of them? Thanks
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geologic
Dec 5, 2004, 1:38 PM
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Hey MM,
Are you talkin to me? (imagine Robert Deniro with shaved head practicing in front of a mirror)
If so, I've only been climbing ice the last couple of years. Mostly TR, starting to lead. This year I plan on getting on as much ice as possible and doing more leading.
If not, and for everybody else: for the dope on central PA ice check out Dave Seasholtz's page. He has pix of the Lock Haven areas, Montgomery and some others. Montgomery is about 50 -60 feet with a whole range of stuff stretching for about a mile on a shale outcrop. I've also heard tell of some nice 100 foot icicles that form somewhere near Wilkes Barre. My usual venue is the frozen (sometimes) waterfalls of Rickett's Glen State Park - east of Williamsport. Very nice when they do come in fully - 100+ feet of moderate multi-tiered leadable ice, with harder drips on the sides and free hanging pillars on the sides.
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That is a website full of good information. I copied a photo to whet the appetites of local ice heads. This is from Worlds End State park. Peruse the site. Many great links.
http://img116.exs.cx/...p1jworldsend8.th.jpg
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geologic
Dec 5, 2004, 11:32 PM
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Too bad climbing is strictly verboten out at World's End :(
Any Access Fund people out there care to take up a new cause???
-geo
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Gman,
Ever asked der Commendant of the park why he's banned climbing? I believe the state park a few miles away has no problem with the brave knigths of the ice persuing their craft. Are you as menacing in person as you are in print? IMWTK!
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geologic
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In reply to: Are you as menacing in person as you are in print?
Only when wielding ice axes. I was once ice climbing in the Dacks at night with some crazed friends and there was a minor accident down on the road in Cascade Pass. I can't imagine what went through the poor accidentee's head when I came running out of the woods in full ice gear - complete with ice tools - to ask her if she was OK. :D
I guess some of the more diplomatic among us should ask Herr (or Frau) Commandant up there at World's End why we can't play on the cliffs of their fair park.
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In reply to: If the forecast beckons, is there any interest ina Bellefonte trip to meet our easter troop? The resounding silence after I mentioned it hurt my ears.
I am very interested in a trip. I didn't respond because I also have finals happening right now. The first post made it sound as though you were hoping for a trip this weekend or next. I would be up for a trip almost any time except now.
I don't mind going out in the cold either if others are also not opposed to going out.
Easter does sound like as good a time as any to plan a trip.
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climbinvixen
Dec 7, 2004, 11:12 AM
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1495 views! There is a lot of rock and ice interest out there. Come on all you lurkers! Make yourself known.
This is a tough time for climbers. It's a tween time. Rock cold and wet, no ice or snow.
Already we've avoided a month of winter. Do you think winter will be hard when it comes (good ice) or will this be a mild one?
These are vital matters. We need a good ice season! I do think rock is essentially done, unless we have a warm day (60 or above). But we need at least a month with temps below freezing for the ice to build up.
I'm thinking Bellefonte in the Spring. We'll post it here and see what happens.
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for that part of the State you would want to talk to either
PA East
Lonny Whitcomb
Carroll Valley, PA
W 717/642-8282 x3388
H 717/642-6994
lwhitcomb@skiliberty.com or
PA North
Rob Holzman
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H 570/489-6588
Hb4j_6z@msn.com
My experience in the west is that the DCNR are doable if you are able to address all of the concerns...its a time consuming process though and if those concerns are primarily impact related its a long road... I sat through a couple meetings where I felt like that old poster of the two vultures up in the tree and the one is saying "patience my ass, lets go kill something". A starting point would be to request an explanantion of why the comandante won't sanction it. If you can get it in writing so much the better as then its not a moving target and work from there.
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geologic
Dec 7, 2004, 5:56 PM
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Rockrat,
Thanks for the info. I'm not clear on one thing in your post: are those names and addresses Access Fund people or DCNR?
-geo
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Access Fund.. Im Appalachian North...northern West Virginia, eastern Ohio, Western PA....Lonny is Eastern PA, Rob is a recent addition..Northern PA so theres obviously some overlap. I try to stay Allegheny National Forest and West.
As far as the DCNR I have a great relationship with the regional manager here in the western region (They climb!). Ive also met the Secretary and had some input in the strategic plan...so I could probably find the right people to get to if you hit a stalemate at the park/landmanager level but it is always preferable to work through them and try to get local buy-in until things totally bog down before trying to flank them
Feel free to email me at bobv512@zoominternet.net if there is anything specific I can assist with.
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Hi all,
Thanks climbinvixen for starting the thread. It has been awhile since I've posted. I'm Dave I live in Beaver Falls and climb at McConnells, Breakneck, and Coopers. Heard about White rocks and other places in the Laural Mnts from ECPer's (which I belong (Hi Christian and Phil)). Always looking to climb with someone unless I'm doing overdue home improvements. I'd be up for climbing at Belfonte - Bill has been threatening to take me there if i ever get on a rock again. I checked out your profile climbinvixen and see you climb with Doyle - it has been a while since I've seen him Hope is all well with him. Well got to gte back to work. See you guys on the rocks.
-Dave
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Hi Dave,
It's been years! How ya doin? I remember those Thursday nights at the Mills, and at Seneca with the ECP. Ever see Denise anymore?
We'll ue the forum to plan trips and climb like it's 2019! What does that mean?
Do you know anything about the drytooling at the Mills that ruined layback? Those miscreants need to come on the forum for some public reeducation!
A lot of people have asked me who the Vixen is. This is a good question. I see she claims to have climbed with Bill Forester and me, and has posted some pictures that I've e-mailed out over the years. So either there is an innocent explanation, or I'm being stalked. If anyone knows who the Vixen is, please out her before desperate deeds are done! Whatever that means.
I'm still hoping rockrat can get Adam P. to come on and talk about the future of bolts for toproping at Coopers.
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In reply to: In reply to: If the forecast beckons, is there any interest ina Bellefonte trip to meet our easter troop? The resounding silence after I mentioned it hurt my ears. I am very interested in a trip. I didn't respond because I also have finals happening right now. The first post made it sound as though you were hoping for a trip this weekend or next. I would be up for a trip almost any time except now. I don't mind going out in the cold either if others are also not opposed to going out. Easter does sound like as good a time as any to plan a trip.
I'm down ass-swell, though most likely not for easter weekend.
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charley
Dec 8, 2004, 11:58 PM
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Gosh they're coming out of the woodwork. Even djm. How ya doin Dave. You mean there are actually ppl who climb with Doyle and admit it. :lol:
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charley
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In reply to: hey ya'll, wonder if you would let someone from wv join in with you. my family is from aliquippa and i wouldnt mind doing some climbing in wpa when i am home. kind of laid out at the moment due to a motorcycle accident, but hoping to get back on the rock in jan.
Hello Ben. Didn't mean to ignore you. You're welcome anytime.
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I had an email forwarded to me if your interested in Coops that there is a move towards forming a climbers coalition for the area.. in fact they are looking for interested people " not just locals" to get involved. If you are interested email me and Ill put you in touch.
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climbinvixen
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So much new business. So much interest.
Charley-I have a one strike rule. No hate speech is tolerated in this forum. Any insults, flame fests and rudeness is not welcome. I love you but I'm nobody's fool.
RR-please post that e-mail in the forum. I think a lot of people are interested.
I've been overwhelmed by male interest, so I've decided to post a picture. It's not a climbing shot, and it's a bit incomplete. But if I were Greek, and carved in marble, I would be immortal. Go figure.
Remember, one rude comment about my body and out you go.
Vixen
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Id be happy to provide contact info on the person leading the charge on the Coops coalition but ubfortunately I am not on that mailing and it was forwarded to me..as such I dont feel comfortable posting an email where I wasnt the intended recipieent. I think the intent is great and that they are trying to reach out and embrace people who are using the park from not just the motown area. In fact Ill email the sponsor and ask her if shed post it here..probably the best MO.
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microbarn
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If you were overwhelmed before, then you will be drowning in it after that pic. :D
I am going to be at the wall tonight (12/9/04) if anyone else who is on here wants to meet up. I should be there about 8, and I will be top roping probably.
Beyond posting an email for contact, I would love to hear what and how things are being addressed with regards to coops.
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To Vixen,
O Goddess of the internet
Now I'm sure we haven't met
Girl, I hope you're not offended,
For your bod please be commended.
But hey, that look is rather scanty,
Standing in your bra and panties,
Why not a photo in your harness
Maybe one with sequins on it.
Don't get me wrong you look sublime,
Your ripeness is so very fine.
Don't delete in angry haste
Just let us see your pretty face.
Thank you, Vixen, for this unexpected Christmas present.
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Thanks boys,
It means a lot to me. More than you know. To have a poem of adoration knocks my socks off. Ooops, they're already off....
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charley
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Vixen, I'm not sure what you mean by hate speech. If you mean the comment about Doyle it is called friendly banter not hate. You should know we say worse face to face.
Insults, flame fests, and rudeness "are" not whatever. No one said you where a fool.
Also, if you really know me you would know I don't care much about rules. Yours or anyone elses. I don't ask permission. No hate intended here either.
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Charley,
I was just razzin you a bit. No offense. This is no more my forum than anyone else's. It was such a upfront speech to give. I get off on stuff like that.
I am glad you're such a sweet guy...
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My wife says I'm a lot of things, but sweet ain't one of them. She even laughed....a lot.
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She must know thing I don't. All I can say is, thank the Lord!
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Hi all,
Definately interested in a western Pa Climbers thread. In Pittsburgh now, soon to be franklin, pa. I'm looking to get in some ice experience this winter, so if anyone knows of any that direction and has tools they'd like to share, let me know. Shoot me a pm if you'd like. Look forward to meeting some new people to climb with, and I'm not opposed to climbing in sub freezing weather. Let me know if whenever you want to climb.
Climb safe
P.S Vixen, you should definately get a high res copy of that and put it in the women of RC.com thread!!!!
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Hey guys. I have not posted anything in a while, but this caught my attention. I am not an ice climber, but I am willing to climb in some cold weather. It's kinda crazy right now with the holidays, but I do put in at least 2 days a week at the Climbing Wall. My fingers are still sore. I'll make sure that I try to post here before I go climing the next time.
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In reply to: Hi Dave, It's been years! How ya doin? I remember those Thursday nights at the Mills, and at Seneca with the ECP. Ever see Denise anymore? Do you know anything about the drytooling at the Mills that ruined layback? Those miscreants need to come on the forum for some public reeducation! I'm still hoping rockrat can get Adam P. to come on and talk about the future of bolts for toproping at Coopers.
Hi Doyle,
I'm going fine, in a few short years I've become the biggest slacker climber on the earth. I still Denise from time to time, she still works at Baker (part time). She is now married & lives in Corapolis and has started her own message therapy business.
I don't know who did the damage to layback but you are ripe to think that it was some associated with the ECP - probably some young buck who thinks the rocks are form his use & the hell with everyone else. I do know Brian of the ECP chastized the unkown perp at the May meeting this year.
Yes I would like to see Coopers adopt bolting for topropes to save the trees.
Hope to see you soon & if not have a great holiday season!
Dave
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Dave,
We'll have to get out next year. Say hi to Denise for me. Those were crazy times at the Mills.
Is there anyone who doesn't want TR bolts at Coopers?
Vixen-Don't delete that picture!
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I may be mothering this too much, but I don't want the WPCF to stall.
Should I create controversy, a scandal? I'm keeping my clothes on, thank you.
Yeah, it's hard to be enthused about climbing when it's 32°. Still where are all the sisters?
Climbinganne, Nikegirl, come in please!
Here's a topic. What climbing stuff are you buying yourself, then giving to your wife to give to you for Christmas? So you get what you want, instead of a stupid sweather you'll never wear.
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Well, here is a topic. I am done with work on Monday and I drop my girlfriend off at the airport at 5:00 PM on Tuesday.
Anyone up for any climbing Wednesday-Friday (I leave for Maryland on Friday)?
Yes, it is cold, but weather.com says it will be back up into the high 30's by Wednesday again.
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I have ordered double gear sling with attached pack, cam, biner, and nut tool. Will recieve at xmas. Anyone venturing to the mill today (sunday)? snow to start about 3.
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I read most of this thread and understand your joy in finding people in the Penn area that are potential partners. I have been trying for some time , even donated money to rc.com to get a partner search going. Something like people search for a date on the web. You would put in where you live, your ability, m/f, type of climbing, etc and others could search specifying the criteria they were looking for. Maybe if others would request rc.com to initiate this it would help. Contact the following user names in rockclimbing.com: tim, trevor, mreardon.
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climbinvixen
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Hi John,
If you're in Sacramento, I assume your interest in a PA partner is largely academic? IMWTK!
The ice and snow makes it look like the end of rock for a few months.
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I had emailed the organizer for the Coopers Rocks Climbers Coalition asking for them to post info here on the forum but see it hasnt happened yet. So, here is the website for the Coops LCO. You can sign up to be on the email list so you will be kept up to date etc. I hope this helps those of you who have expressed an interest in whats going on at Coops.
http://www.coopersrockclimbers.org/
Also wanted to mention again that Climb North is looking for a manager if anyone knows of someone qualified.
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rockchimp
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Got my shoes resoled as an early Christmas present.... sprained both ankles badly the day before they arrived back..... typical!
Got to look on the bright side though, at least happened when it's too cold to climb outside :D Woohoo :D (nope definitely not an ice guy)
Back in action mid Jan me thinks..... when on average does it warm up enough to head back outside here in Pittsburgh btw? My first winter here is all.
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March, if you have a rad streak. It depends on the year too. This year I think I got in my last ice climb and first rock climb in the same week.
Kraylick is one crag that faces south. It can be very balmy there in winter.
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rockrat512
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Might as well throw Jumonville in the winter mix as well ..if its sunny its a big south facing reflector oven.
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climbinvixen
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Hey everyone,
I got the Cooper's groups e-mail, and they said all are welcome. So here it is.
Also, where are the climbing chics? I like men, but sisterhood is powerful!
V
Hello to all who expressed interest in participating in the Climbers Gathering for Coopers Rock last spring!
As some of you may already know, a member of our climbing community
recently spent some time leading a Rock and Ice Magazine writer around
Coopers Rock and some surrounding bouldering areas, including
locals-only-access- and absolutely-no-access-areas. Concern over this
development and the perceived lack of ethical responsibility of said
climbing community member has been the impetus for the formation of a
climbers coalition for Coopers Rock and surrounding areas. There is a
very small group of us working on organizational structure, non-profit
status, goals, purposes and missions of this coalition. Once some
level of structure has been established, we will bring the entirety of
the local climbing community (including EVERYONE who climbs in the
Coopers Rock area, no matter how "local" their location) into the mix
so that everyone has a voice in how the organization and its missions
can be restructured to best serve community needs, and to explore
ideas on how to accomplish the goals of the climbing community
(keeping climbing ethics, responsibility and land stewardship in the
forefront of our minds). A coalition open house is tenatively
scheduled for April, and there is a lot to accomplish between now and
then.
The purpose of this email is to inform all of you who participated in
the spring climbers gathering of this development, and to invite your
participation in this effort as well. A majority of the current
founding coalition group is primarily familiar with issues and
concerns surrounding bouldering opportunities in the area, and I would
like to make sure that the broadest representation of ideas possible
infuses these early stages of coalition formation (while, of course,
keeping the group small, so as to efficiently accomplish tasks). If
you have the ability to commit to attending a meeting of 2-3 hours
once every week in Morgantown and are interested in being involved,
please let me know. Let me remind you that the work that is being
done now is primarily strategic planning for a non-profit
organization; major efforts toward climbing, access, stewardship and
other related issues will come in the not-too-distant future. For the
time being, however, looking toward those efforts is mostly motivation
to get through this stage of nitty-gritty organizational stuff.
If you are unable to participate, rest assured you will still have
plenty of opportunities to voice your ideas and influence the growth
and development of this organization.
Please contact me as soon as possible (murrawunda@hotmail.com or
304.376.9160) if you would like to help with the coalition start-up.
And thank you again for your interest and participation in the spring
gathering (I'm happy to email you or send you an electronic copy of my
thesis if you are interested).
Have a lovely holiday season, and I will be in contact again soon!
Climb on!
Jamie Fields
www.coopersrockclimbers.org
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Wow, A Western PA Thread .. I've lived in Western PA off and on for the past 27 years -- Currently in Sharon, PA (on the weekends that is).
Always been traveling for my climbing fix and only get to the Mill once in a while, but I might actually have a non traveling job in New Castle soon so may be around a lot more.
A question for you, any info on what it is like at Coopers Rock this time of year? (are there any seasonal restrictions to bouldering?) I know it will be cold, because as I drove to the airport this Monday morning, I was lucky to see the hood of my car, but I don't mind cold. But baring the cold, and as long as the snow holds off, I might head down that way this weekend.
Oh well, maybe see some of you at the Mill sometime. If anyone finds themselves hiking near the Grove City College Outing Club cabin near Franklin (my home away from home), stop in and say hi!
-- Cory
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climbinvixen
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The problem with cold is...it's cold!
My experience is, if you touch the rock and it sucks the heat out of your hand and numbs it so you can't tell what you're touching, it may be too cold.
Please see recent posts about some crags that can be nice on a sunny winter day. Or suck it up and bash some ice.
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Hmm, Bashing some ice huh. I can say I've never tried that, spent most of my winters out west on the slopes. Spring, summer, and fall were on the rocks, but may have to give into temptation and give it a try this year :). As for climbing in the cold, numb fingers only make those small crimpers not hurt as much :lol: (ahh but the friction!!!!) (I remember getting snowed on in Tuscon, AZ!!!!)
Oh well, still might head down, worst case is I walk around and get outside for awhile. Beats sitting inside doing work all day.
Cory
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mountainman
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Praise the Lord! The forecast is good and the trip's gonna go.
The plan is to take off at 1 PM Friday and land at Lake Placid, NY by 4 PM, Hopefully get picked up by Paco at 5. Adam won't get in until 11:30 PM.
We'll climb Adam's favorites Saturday and Sunday, then fly back, weather permitting.
Winter flying-beware of icing! Needless to say I'm very excited. I'll report it with a TR and a photo upon my return. Please pray for clear skies, so needed in the winter for flying. Fear and terror I don't need.
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climbinvixen
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MM,
My prayers go with you, you lucky duck! Early season ice, your buds. Hog heaven, I'd say.
Be careful out there, make good decisions, and get good pics. The forum awaits you.
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charley
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I did my 3 mile walk and it didn't feel too bad at 34'. There wasn't a lot of wind so I decided to drive down to the mill. Would have posted or called Dave but, you guys think I'm nuts. There was snow on the level holds but some things protected by over hangs were ok. My hands stayed warm after the first few min. There were a few routes a rope could have been put on. I did do some bouldering on h&r block wall. Ross was covered with snow on top and the good high holds. There were huge icicles on the back of island block and I didn't want to be walking under them. I got to go outside and climb a little. I'm not sure it was worth the drive, but it beat drinkin beer and watching the steelers. I got to drink a beer and watch the end of the steelers game anyhow. I told em, take the giants and the points.
Gibsoncd77, I see by your pic your a young fella. If you don't mind climbing in the cold with an old man, I will try to go to logtown in lisbon, ohio, when it is sunny and above freezing. There are some guys that climb over there through the winter. They say if it's sunny and 20 you can climb. I have done it at 35 but I have to do 30 before 25. There is also a nice 44' climbing wall at SRU. It's only 5 bucks a day and that includes locker, shower, shoes, and bikes. I think I'm going to sign up for a semester after new years. If your interested pm. You too Dave.
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oz120
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Hey I just got back to the board after 10 months of being gone and wondering if there is anoyn in western PA that could teach me TR i have the gear was going to take a class and then got laidoff from work and never got the chance. nice to see we got a place now. well thanx
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mountainman
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Here's the rest of the story:
Friday cleared midday, and I took off at 1 PM after finding a flat tire on my plane. First time this ever happened. Found a guy to fill it and it stayed filled, although I worried I'd land on a flat tire and lose control.
I stayed under the clouds bumping along, then climbed through a hole and got on top. I was averaging about 155 mph over the ground, which was good, because I'd neglected to fill the gas tanks, and sweated that too. The day got beautiful the last hour, and I was able to climb right over the high peaks and drop into Lake Placid 15 minutes before dark. Couldn't find the airport as everything was snow covered, but finally spotted it and landed uneventfully. Plugged in the heater, covered it, and Terry very kindly gave me a lift to the Cascade Inn. I ate dinner there, took a long bath, and was sleeping when first Michael, then Adam arrived around 11 PM. Paco got there the next morning.
It was around zero when we drove about 30 miles east to Chapel Pond. Adam & I hiked to Haggis and Cold Toast but it wasn't in yet. We parked at CP and hiked across the end of the pond and west along the base of several ice cliffs, 75 to 100 feet high. The first one is the famous Lions on the Beach, but there were people on every cliff, and we had to walk a long ways to Positive Reinforcement. There were two distinct pairs from New Jersey and one from Saratoga Springs, and we all shared ropes and belayed each other. The climbs were all different, long and very nice. I got to use a lot of new gear: clothing, leather boots and HB Spitfires. Everything worked well, and I was glad to see how well I was climbing. The high got up to 20°, but it was hard to stay totally warm, but I hiked out with Brooks Range overboots on, which really warmed me up.
Sunday saw Michael bailing due to illness, then we hiked up to Multiplication Gully. Paco led both pitches, and it was incredible. There's a climb out of a chimney, and a very narrow split at the top of the second pitch. An excellent and famous route.
We went over to Cascade Pass as the storm hit. The clouds were nearly down to the gound and the snow was falling fast. We did several climbs up free standing pillars which were challenging, and stopped just before dark. Adam took off and had an epic 8 hour drive to his home, and Paco and I had dinner at the Brewery in LP.
Monday morning dawned at 21 below zero, but without a cloud in the sky. Paco helped my brush the snow off my plane, but it was covered in ice, so we put it in the hangar under radiant heat lamps, melted it and dried it off. Expensive, but necessary. The flight back took 3 1/2 hours and I had a shock about a minute before landing when my gear wouldn't go down. I turned off and manged to manually pump the gear down, and landed safely. I think some moisture froze the gear in place. Scary.
The final insult was being unable to view my pictures when the video reader corrupted the disc somehow. So I have to go to the library and use their PC as a Mac won't let you view the disc to fix it. Hopefully I'll have a tasty picture to post soon.
I've got a bad feeling about this winter around here. I haven't seen any ice forming, and It's going to warm up this week. I'm so glad Adam dragged me up there. It's a winter wonderland, and a different world.
I'm exhausted, and I wish I was climbing again tomorrow. Thank you for your prayers. I certainly felt the power of God when the clouds cleared and gave me safe passage. Merry Christmas to all, and the happiest of new years. Come Alive in 05!
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climbinvixen
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Hey MM,
Glad you made it back, but it sounds like you're the Indiana Jones of the forum. Hope you get the photos fixed.
Hey Ox Man. What's to climb out in Somerset?
Remember, if God didn't want you to climb, He'd make you a fat dumb idiot. If you already are, then thank God anyway.
Hey everybody, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Remember that this holiday is spiritual, because God sent us Jesus to save us from our evil and despair. Rejoice and sing the praises of our Lord Jesus Christ, because that's what it's all about!
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charley
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MM glad you made it back safe. Sounds like you had a good time.
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If you ever try to transfer pictures from a disc into a computer and get an error message that says your disc is corrupted, don't despair. It took me four hours, but I got them extracted.
Here I am on Multiplication Gully, emerging from the chimney,
http://img139.exs.cx/...39/6083/224qw.th.jpg
You must click this to enlarge and see the detail of the climb dropping into the depths
This is in the narrows just before the top. Click to enlarge.
http://img157.exs.cx/...57/7856/232dr.th.jpg
I hope you enjoy these pictures, although they hardly show the size and severity of the climbs. I hope that we get some ice, but after this trip, my heart is full of Christmas spirit. Merry Christmas everyone!
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climbinvixen
Dec 22, 2004, 1:18 AM
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Mountain Man,
Wow! That first picture is incredible, and the second isn't bad either. I especially liked your story, and appreciate the time you took to tell it. I hope everyone will try to tell us about their adventures, as long as it's not X rated.
I'm still waiting for another woman to post here. Where are the sisters?
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oz120
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well not much of anything really. there is a place we cll big rock that is more boldering than anything. but i am sure some of you could climb the tall side of it. i jsut stand there and stare dreaming about climbing it some day. but nothing to tie to on top but you would have to look and tell me what you think. might beable to do a lead up it. its on state land that was just looged so you might be able to but in some bolts i will try and find out. it is a few miles from Shancksville and then about 5 mile hick into the woods. maybe come spring i can show it to some of you if you wana go soon let me know and i will work something out. and does anyone know of good caving in southwest PA?
Thanx
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In reply to: Hey everybody, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Remember that this anniversity is spiritual, because God sent us Jesus to save us from our evil and despair. Rejoice and sing the praises of our Lord Jesus Christ, because that's what it's all about!
I could not have said it better!
Thanks climbinvixen and Merry Christmas to you!
Bill are you going to be around Sunday - do you think it would be good for some bouldering at the Mills? Merry Christmas!
mountainman, I'm glad you had a great time thanks for the TR - I'll continue living viacariously through your stories. Merry Christmas!
oz120 wrote " does anyone know of good caving in southwest PA?"
Contact Doug Fulton at 2cavers@kiski.net. Doug is the caving coordinator for the Explorer's Club of Pittsburgh (ECP). Check out their website at www.pittecp.org. Merry Christmas!
Dave
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sunday is the day we are doing xmas with the kids. I hear it's going to be cold and nasty anyhow.
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climbinvixen
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This is from Spray issue # 37
'Twas the Night Before Climbing
'Twas the night before climbing, when all round the rock
Not a dirtbag was stirring, not even a sock;
The tricams were hung by the anchor with care,
In hopes that a belay slave soon would be there;
The craggers were nestled all snug on their pads,
While visions of camelots ran in gear ads;
And girlfriend in her helmet, and I playing smart,
Had just boiled some tea for an early alpine start,
When out on the face there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the tent to see what was the matter.
Away to the first pitch I flew like a flash,
Tore open the rain fly, leapt over the cache.
The headlamp that lit up the new first ascent
Gave the luster of mid-day to my four season tent,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a portaledge, and a cragger with gear.
Like a gnarly old skewler, so lively, like Phil
I knew in a moment he'd bring forth a drill.
More rapid than screamers his gear rack it came,
And he racked up, and shoed up, and yelled out each name;
"Now, 'biner! now, quick-draw! now, grigri and slings!
On, harness! on hexes! on dry rope and rap rings!
To the top of the pitch! to the top of the wall!
Now drill away! drill away! drill away all!"
As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly,
When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky,
So up to the crux pitch the climber he flew,
With the rack full of gear, and haul bag, too.
And then, in a twinkling, I heard at the crux
A loud exclamation of "boy, this piece sucks."
As I focused my lamp, and was turning around,
Down the descender he came without sound.
He was dressed all in Schoeller, from his head to his toe,
And his shells were all Gore-Tex, Arcteryx, and so;
A Powderhorn chalk bag he'd flung on his shoulder,
And he looked like a dirtbag getting ready to boulder.
The stub of a fattie he held tight in his teeth,
And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath;
He had a Lynx harness, wore Inferno shoes
And the bag he was stuffing was a new Blue Kazoo.
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
And tightened his laces, then tied in with a smirk,
And laying his hand onside his device,
And giving a w00t, he tackled the gneiss;
He wailed on his ascender, to his rope gave a tug,
And up he jumared and dangled and jugged.
But I heard him exclaim, ere he climbed out of sight,
"MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!"
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Dec 23, 2004, 10:07 PM
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Hi everyone. Im just starting out in rock climbing, and I just found this site, and it looks really informative. I go to school at Duquesne in Pittsburgh, and so far I have just been climbing at the rock wall, but I am interested in getting out on real rocks when hte weather gets better, but i have no expierence with that. What kind of places are close to Pittsburgh, and are there any people out there that would be interested in showing me the ropes when the wweather gets better.
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In reply to: Hi everyone. Im just starting out in rock climbing, and I just found this site, and it looks really informative. I go to school at Duquesne in Pittsburgh, and so far I have just been climbing at the rock wall, but I am interested in getting out on real rocks when hte weather gets better, but i have no expierence with that. What kind of places are close to Pittsburgh, and are there any people out there that would be interested in showing me the ropes when the wweather gets better.
check with pitt outdoor club
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climbinvixen
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Try the Explorers Club of Pittsburgh. They have a web site. Google em.
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I'll second that, I got started climbing with the Pitt Outdoors club (www.pittoutdoors.com)
The Pittsburgh Explorers club (http://www.pittecp.org/) also have a very good beginning rock climbing school. I may be helping with the teaching at this school in some capacity in the coming spring (it's a once a year event, for a few months in late spring/early summer).
Personally I think the ECP Rock school is the better way to go, the POC guys are great, but there is more structure to the rock school,it will give you really good introduction to both the group and climbing. The POC group is much less organized, so it's pretty easy to miss crucial pieces in the learning curve.
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There is also a group called venture outdoors. ventureoutdoors.org
This is the old ayh plus some new faces. Any of these would be good ways to learn and get out. Ecp's school is prolly the most info and structure but also maybe most expensive and time consuming. Check them all out and choose.
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And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
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God bless us, everyone!
What did you get for Christmas?
I got a Cloudveil Run don't walk shirt, Mark Twight's Kiss or Kill book,and Masters of Stone V dvd. Now I need freedom. Ooops, hi honey.
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is there anyone here that take trips out west mountianering I have been looking at some differant schools but most of them want you to have your own gear and was wandering what some of you use.
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Hi Oz,
The basic equipment you must have is a harness, shoes, a locking carabiner and a belay device. I'd also carry a sling with a couple extra lockers, and two prusiks. Take a helmet, and a visor for the sun.
Many leaders don't expect any more out of you, but beyond this, a rope and some webbing to set up topropes is very useful.
Clothing is important, since hypothermia can kill you. Avoid cotton, have a fleece, wind shells. I find a camelback very useful on long routes. I carry a feed bag of nuts, dried fruits, bars and gels. Sunscreen. Lip gloss.
A sleeping bag, a stove, but this bleeds into camping/backpacking. This is all stuff I'll be taking to Joshua Tree in February. If you have any questions, bring em on.
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"Many leaders don't expect any more out of you"
I agree wih Mountainman though a sixer of a nice Belgian or Impy Stout is always a welcomed addition to the camp kit and might lead to repeat invitations
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ok i have harness, shoes, belay device, 5 locking beaners, and 60m of rope and 2 6' sections of 1" webbing. but what is a prusiks? and any recamendations on a helmat and what do you carry for lead? I am just asking cause i wana move to colarado next spring and wana know what i will need in general. thanx for the help.
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OZ,
Why don't you call some schools you're interested in and see what equipment they recommend for their students?
If you don't know what a prusik is, you need some education! John Long has an excellent "How to Rock Climb book, which you can get from Amazon for only 10 dollars. Here's the link
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0762724714/qid=1104353116/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-5108300-8599918?v=glance&s=books
There are many different racks for leading, depending on the route. Supertopo guides often give rack instructions for certain routes. Popular pro these days are cams, stoppers, hexes, etc.
However if you're going to lead sport, just get 10 quickdraws.
The problem is, telling you a rack to get and turning you loose on the world is like advising you on a parachute to buy and saying, 'have a nice trip'. You need knowledge and experience, which is best gained by finding a mentor. Someone who can guide and advise you as you gain experience. Without it, you'll be a great danger of becoming a climbing statistic.
But call the schools and see what they say. Why waste your mney buying stuff that you might never use? Most leaders buy stuff as they go along and see a need for it.
So good luck OZman, and let us know how it goes. Don't forget the 6 microbrews to Vixen for this excellent beta!
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charley
Jan 1, 2005, 1:23 PM
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Happy new year all you wpa. climbers. I'm going down to the mill and see what things are like. Yinz have a great year.
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climbinvixen
Jan 1, 2005, 6:13 PM
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Come alive in 05!
I hope we can all climb more this year than the one before!
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rockrat512
Jan 2, 2005, 2:03 PM
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Bill...was anything dry at the Mill Saturday??????
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charley
Jan 2, 2005, 4:16 PM
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In reply to: Bill...was anything dry at the Mill Saturday??????
No. It was wet and cold. Met Jim and we bsed for half hour and went home. I was not the only crazy one there.
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catbiter
Jan 2, 2005, 5:34 PM
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I'm glad I just popped online for a few minutes. My wife and I were going to head to the Mills. Thanks for saving me a trip!
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rockrat512
Jan 2, 2005, 6:30 PM
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yeah ...things had not changed late this morning either, though I hear Coops yesterday was blue sky and 60 by mid afternoon
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charley
Jan 2, 2005, 8:48 PM
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Coops dries alot faster. Is the gate closed?
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rockrat512
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yes its closed but vc carl et al went down and had a fine day..I had a commitment too early to tag along and be back in time to make it worthwhile yesterday. I tried every spot I know of in the park today and while Century Wall was "dry" it had runnoff from the top every 10 feet.
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climbinvixen
Jan 3, 2005, 4:58 AM
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Did they hike all the way in to Rock City, or someplace closer?
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rockrat512
Jan 3, 2005, 11:58 AM
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Good Block / Pump it out
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gat
Jan 3, 2005, 6:37 PM
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Hello all, I am a climber in Pgh - haven't posted here because I haven't been actively climbing outside recently.
My house will be available for rent in the next couple weeks. This house has a nice basement climbing area. See my user id photo tab for a picture.
The specifics:
Climbing wall !!!
600/month + utilities
Spring Hill area of Pittsburgh (convenient to 28 and 279)
All appliances-washer/dryer/ref/dishwasher/stove
Two off street parking places
2/3 bedroom (third is captured)
1 large bathroom with boxed in tub/shower
Completely remodedeled inside & out
Double lot with no neighbors to the rear (wooded area behind property)
Partially finished basement w/ access from outside
If interested, PM me. I can provide pictures of rooms and any other information requested.
Thanks.
Greg
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boulderv15
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Hey, y'all! Please please please tell me someone in northwestern PA is out there and looking for a climbing partner....I am pretty new to the area and now that I am settled, I am looking for a partner...I have a pretty good knowledge of areas in western and central PA, more in central pa...I have boulders, very large boulders, in my backyard, too...anyone enticed? I love to get out and have fun and climb. Let me know if anybody is interested, I'm seriously jonesin' for some rock...Josh
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charley
Jan 9, 2005, 2:31 AM
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Josh, we're practically neighbors. I live in mercer and am always willing to climb with someone new. Those boulders in the backyard may be better than the mill anyhow. I can also introduce you to lots of climbers in the area. I climb with lots of folks from the pittsburgh area. If you are interested SRU has a nice indoor wall, cheap too. Pm me if interested. They start back to class monday.
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charley
Jan 13, 2005, 1:18 AM
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Whatsamatau Just because it has been snowing then raining raining raining, and now its going to get colder n hell, no one wants to talk about climbing anymore. Ohhhh I forgot to mention that you couldn't get on the site for three days and if you could, you just got this, page can not be displayed thing. I've had to resort to the indoor wall. I am very sore. Can't wait for spring. Three weeks til ground hog day. yee haw. Then 6 wks. til saint pattys day and the week after that will be the long Easter weekend. We'll be climbing fore ya know it.
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cincysam
Jan 13, 2005, 1:48 AM
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Hey all,
I learned to climb up in Pittsburgh with Phil Sidel and other POC/ECP people. I sure do miss the climbing community up there, I live in Cincinnati now, and its a lot harder to find people - though we do have 2 really nice gyms down here to climb at.
I'm actually working with some other people here to get an outdoors club off the ground. We'd love to do a joint trip with the ECP someday, if anyone's interested.
Oh, and who the heck put bolts on the Ross boulder?!?! Is that for real?!?! Talk about poor ethics.
Sam Schutte
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rockrat512
Jan 13, 2005, 12:16 PM
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oh it wasa for real though they got yanked and the holes patched the same day..
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diabasekyle
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hey, i'm from harrisburg area and right now is a great time to be bouldering........in my opinion anyway. i mostly climb on diabase rock (as says in my name). two areas are govenor stables and mt. gretna. if anyone ever wants to come out or have me show them around give me a message. i work at the climbnasium climbing gym, but anytime i'm not working or schooling i'd be glad to climb w/ anyone.
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diabasekyle
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hey, i'm from harrisburg area and right now is a great time to be bouldering........in my opinion anyway. i mostly climb on diabase rock (as says in my name). two areas are govenor stables and mt. gretna. if anyone ever wants to come out or have me show them around give me a message. i work at the climbnasium climbing gym, but anytime i'm not working or schooling i'd be glad to climb w/ anyone.
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climbinvixen
Jan 26, 2005, 1:03 PM
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Peace & love, rocknits,
The Vixen was unable to log on for forever, but I'm back, all is well, and it's going to be a great year for climbing.
Has anyone sunk a pick this winter, other than the obnoxious MM? Just kidding cutie, I know you're way sensitve!
However, I heard a rumor the ice should be formed by this weekend. Has anyway been up to Confluence to check the ice? What say you?
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rocke
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Is anyone interested in ice climbing around Lock Haven this weekend? I live in the State College area and I am looking to get out.
Rocke
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rocke
Jan 27, 2005, 9:14 PM
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Is anyone interested in ice climbing around Lock Haven this weekend? I live in the State College area and I am looking to get out.
Rocke
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rocke
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Is anyone interested in ice climbing around Lock Haven this weekend? I live in the State College area and I am looking to get out.
Rocke
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fleamodee
Jan 27, 2005, 9:58 PM
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I have a question for all the southwest pa folks, what's the deal with the lost crag. How tall is it? Is it mostly vertical? Is it mostly a cliff line? Any good bouldering around? thanks for the help
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hammerhead
Jan 27, 2005, 10:50 PM
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Hey,
I live in eastern Ohio, just south of Cleveland. It would be great if you guys dropped me a line when you go climbing. I'd love to join. I'm total n00b when it comes to trad but I'm going to Seneca this April to take the intermediate course from Tony Barnes. Just give me a PM well in advance please, (kids and wife ya know)
Thanks,
Al
P.S. I have all of my own gear too.
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zetedog
Jan 28, 2005, 12:01 AM
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Lost Crag:
Is a series of blocks, not really any discernable cliff line. see
http://www.climbpa.telerama.com/climbpa.html
for the best info. Tim did a real good job on this trying to prepare a guidebook before he had to shut his shop down.
It's mostly vertical, but relatively short. Krahlik is a better "cliff line" with a nicer approach, but is normally very crowded, so this is a decent alternative down the road.
Don't know about the bouldering. As far as quality, it can be a bit iffy. Some of the climbes have iron ore running through them, which can make the rock flake in spots. Other lines are contrived, but most a decent. Since it is in the shade and a lot of the climbs are in the spaces between blocks, it always seemed "chilly" there. I haven't been there in 2+ years, so more development might have taken place.
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rocke
Jan 29, 2005, 6:04 PM
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Sorry about the multiple posts. I received numerous error messages that led me to believe that my post wasn't being posted.
Rocke
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climbinvixen
Jan 31, 2005, 8:07 PM
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Hammer (such an evocative name!)
Did you ever go to Logtown Quarry, just east of Lisbon, Ohio, proud capitol of Columbiana County?
You might meet a load of Ohio climbers on a nice warm weekend day in Spring.
Anyway, a hearty welcome, and we'll try to post outings. At this point, everything is pretty loose, ie, nothing organized.
Good luck t Seneca. That's going to be wonderful.
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markc
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Zetedog gives a good description of Lost Crag. There are quite a few routes in a pretty broad range of grades. The height is relatively short (comparable to routes at the Sunset Wall at Cooper's). The area is heavily wooded, and will dry out more slowly than other area crags. If it's wet at Krahlick or Breakneck, it will definitely be wet here.
Don't be surprised if you get to the top of a sport route and don't find anchors. Several of the moderate routes didn't have individual anchors. Instead, there are common rappel points from the tops of the blocks. I wasn't looking for bouldering while I was there, but the entire area is detached blocks. I'm sure you can explore the possibilities.
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misguided_13
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Hey,
I'm new to the site but I live 10 minutes from Derry high rocks. When the weather gets better and I've got the time, I'll make a run up there to see what I can see and let everyone know.
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charley
Feb 5, 2005, 8:10 PM
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FWIW I was at the mill today. There is alot of snow on top of things. The trail down is dicey with the snow. Ross is covered with snow. The rigging route has snow on it. I did some laps on the easy route under h&r block. Most of the boulder routes on island block were doable, dry. There was big ice on the end of island blk. The rock was cold. I wouldn't drive far for it, but I got out a bit.
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charley
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misguided, what's the story on derry. can you climb there legally or not?
I am curious. The weather said high 50-55, low around freezing at seneca this weekend. Sounds climbable to me. What do you think? Would there be too much snow on the trail and rock to be safe? High of 50 is ok if it's not too windy. Was anyone there?
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misguided_13
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I'm going to make a stop by there this week and look around. I'll get the owners number and get the skinny on it and let you all know if it's a go or no go. I love high rocks, I literally grew up there. My father taut me to climb. He's been climbing since the 70's. I still use a schtickt plate instead of an ATC. I can't wait for the weather to clear up so I can get back on the rock. I'm not much use on the ground.
Down with Gravity!!!
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climbinvixen
Feb 9, 2005, 12:58 PM
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FYI: Dave & Sarah climbed at Seneca Saturday (2/5) and had a wonderful day and fair conditions.
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misguided_13
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Sorry,
I'm not going to be able to get up to high rocks this weekend. It's snowing pretty good and my car is only 2wd, if I get up there I might not make it back on all four wheels. I'm goin to try next week on the day's I don't have class.
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In reply to: FYI: Dave & Sarah climbed at Seneca Saturday (2/5) and had a wonderful day and fair conditions.
I was down there with them Saturday, it was amazing, nearly like summer. About 50 degrees, but it felt warmer in the sun on the east face. I had a guy from the mountaineering school as my second, he's a strong sport climber, but had never done multi-pitch trad before, so I got a bit of the best of both worlds. He was comfortable seconding anything I'll lead at Seneca, but I still got the satisfaction of sharing the experience there with someone new.
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charley
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Sounds great. I'm going somewhere next weekend. If seneca and the new are too cold, wet I'll head to nc or dc. Gotta get out though.
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charley
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doesn't anyone even look in here anymore. Lets go climb. Weather looks good at seneca next weekend.
Just got back from the mill. It was 30 up on the road, with a breeze, maybe cooler in the hole. The rock was mostly dry but, cold. It took a cpl short ascents for my hands to stay warm. There was ice here and snow on some ledges. It was cold enough the ground was dry, a little snow. Got in a good workout. It was cool to sit when I got tired, in the silence, occasionally interupted by a voice from the other side of the valley.
I couldn't go away this weekend, had to stay home and play electrician this morning.
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ladylayback
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That's it, I'm giving up on this area until April. I'm going south for a week. Climbing on plastic is wearing me down. I need to get out on real rock.
Ok, I'm done belly aching. We needed a new post here anyway.
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climbinvixen
Mar 5, 2005, 2:11 PM
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Lady!
So nice to have a sister on the site. I've been soo busy, but I'm back.
The weather is bad for rock, ice is nonexistent, so the Vixen has been cross country skiing and generally having a blast.
However, Spring is gonna hit us fast and hard, so it's time to fire up, kids, because we'll be on the rock soon, bitching about the heat, humidity and bugs.
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Yeah, I've been sporting the expedition gear with that snow dog of mine and been doing backcountry hiking. Soon enough I'll be mowing the lawn.
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hey sorry to interrupt, but i just joined the website and i just so happen to live in lawrence county. I live about err....15 min away from mcconnells mills. sadly, i'm a fairly new climber and a buddy and i are looking to get started toproping and sport climbing out there. we are planning to get all of our equipment when summer starts due to lack of having jobs. If anybody could get us started, just show us the ropes (no pun intended) and help us get our feet wet. any help would be appriciated.
thanks
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Yo shine...Wherebouts south might you be headed? havent been in the gym the past few weeks cause I managed to come down with a good case of tendonitis....
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Hey Bob. I'm headed down to Pilot Mt in NC. Me and Jason are going to try camp weather permitting. It's about time you take a break and rest up.
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charley
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Just got back from the carolinas. Climbed at pilot last weekend and rumbling bald this sat. The campground is sposed to open 3/15 at pilot. We stayed at a small campground near town of pilot mnt. there were signs. It was in a farmers back fields. I had a great time. My climbing sucks even more than it used to.
Ike, pm me and maybe we can get together at the mill.
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ladylayback
Mar 14, 2005, 5:03 PM
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Hey Charley, thanks for the info. Any climbs you recommend?
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If you are down by pilot mountain, check out the info on Moores wall. Made it there once while I was working in Winston-Salem, can't remember the names of any of the routes, but was a nice break from night climbing at the gym. (Just good to be outside, and didn't have the daylight to make it to Pilot)
On another note, just took a new job in New Castle (will probably start around mid April), so will be hitting the Mill evenings after work once the sun stays in the sky a little longer! (Ike, Charley, et al PM me if y'all are interested in some climbing at the mill... )
-- Cory
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charley
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In reply to: Hey Charley, thanks for the info. Any climbs you recommend?
I just do easy stuff.
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ladylayback
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Hey, even the easy stuff can fun.
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Courtesy of rockrat I have directions to Jumonville. I would like to go and try this area out. Anyone else interested in joining me can send me a PM.
I hear there are some top rope climbs, short trad leads, and bouldering there.
Right now, the weather is supposed to be 10% chance of rain and temps about 47 on Sunday.
If you want to meet prior to going, I will probably be top roping at the climbing wall Thursday.
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Hello all... Most of the ice is gone (no more climbable ice)... Hope everyone got out a bunch this winter. Local ice wasn't as good as most years, but it was still in quite a bit. I'm itchin' to get out rock climbing. Took a drive to Krahlick today, a few hunks of ice still hanging above the Kitchen. Most of the rock is dry (still quite cold), but dry.
Looking for partners... a belayer.... a dead body to tie off to anything. Experience and gear NOT an issue. Get in touch. I need partners. Tomorrow is going to be NICE if anyone is free.
Look for new crags to come this summer. I've still know of a lot of untouched rock just waiting for development.
Tim
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Hey tim, I've been searching around connellsville for bouldering this winter, I came across some stuff right off of 119 on sandy flats road and a couple of other places near there. For the most part it wasn't real good. I've been to the boulders that are directly south of connelsville, they were a little better. Also hiked to the pipeline boulders near the knobs and lost crag, not all that good for bouldering though. I tried to reach some boulders that I could see on the arial photos near the mine that is off of 119 as well, but was too scared to walk any further due to the workers being below me. Is there a boulder field out there somewhere that is good (like coopers lets say), I figured you are the guy to ask. Want to dish out some hints??? thanks Brian
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tanderson
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Best bouldering around is probablly upper Casparis... We call it Foley's. Tons of bouldering just like Coops (without the crowds). 4WD is pretty much mandatory for getting there. Get in touch if you'd like to check it out.
-Tim
P.S. There is soooooo much bouldering around... we just need climbers willing to work and develop it!
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I went to the mill and bouldered on sat. I have been asked to post when andwhere I might be going climbing. That may be possible some time but alot of the time I just don't know til the day or maybe the nite before. How many of you make last min. decisions on climbing. I watch the weather and go where it will be nice or stay close to home and hope for decent weather. This weekend is easter and I have 3 days and it is going to be raining on the whole east coast. It might be nice at seneca sat. I might give it a try. I could always hike the other days. Hopefully things will change by thur. Anyone else have climbing plans or is it still too early.
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charley
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Anyone climbing over the weekend? I went to logtown sat afternoon and even went to the mill for a bit sun. At least I got out side on some rock. It will be nicer when it gets drier.
Anyone get out lately. With this decent weather, I got out last sat. at logtown, sun.,wed, and thur. at the mill. Now it is sposed to rain and snow.
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Apr 3, 2005, 8:18 PM
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Stupid weather!!
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charley
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In reply to: In reply to: Stupid weather!! I heard through the grapevine that there was some snow in PA this weekend. Weather depending, I am going to try to head to the mill next Sunday (Need some motivation!). Keeping the fingers crossed!!! Cory
Stupid weather indeed. I spent 5 hours this morning plowing snow. There was 3-4 inches of heavy wet snow on the streets this morning. Sposed to be 57 tomorrow then get nicer each day for the next cpl. The weekend is sposed to be nice so I hope I am not at the mill. I hope I'm somewhere nicer.
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i'm a manager of Climb North. which is about 20-30 minutes north of pittsburgh. i know no one likes climbing indoors but when it's crappy out you can always do that. and if anyone knows of any comps, send a message my way. thanks
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ladylayback
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Is anybody looking to climb tomorrow (4/5) in the afternoon? It's looking to be nice day and I wouldn't mind getting out for some top roping.
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Hey i can't go tomorrow (4/5) but if your interest i am willing to try on the weekend if the weather is nice. To tell you the truth i'm looking for a steady climbing partner for the season. Looking to climb mostly sport but will climb everything and anything.
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I have stopped this thread from echoing to the front page, in accordance with the multitude of other regional threads that have grown heads of their own.
Please address all questions and problems via PM to "Edge", and I will review them in 2024.
Thanks a bazillion.
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charley
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I met ladylayback at the mill this afternoon and we put up a cpl tr's and climbed til we were pleasantly tired. Too early in the year to get really trashed. We had a fine time. Fyi the mill is close to dry and it's warm. That is close to dry for the mill. The sunshine wall is still dripping and the beginners wall has wet spots. H&r was ok, mission is ok but damp up high, the aretes are all ok. It was near 7:30 when we left and there were ppl still climbing and it was still light enough to see. GET OUT and climb folks. The season is here. :D :D :D :D :D
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Going to Breakneck today (4/6) from around 9:30 to 3:30. Anyone is welcome to join us, though I realize this is last minute. No I'm going to stumble back over to the coffee pot.
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charley
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I'm going to logtown near lisbon ohio on sat and prolly sun, too. Should be nice.
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Hey everyone. I am new to this whole climbing thing, but i really like it a lot so far. I live in downtown PIttsburgh, and so far have only been climbing in gyms, but I really want to get outside. The problem is that I am gone every weekend, and so can't really climb then. Does anyone here climb during weekdays that would be willing to help me get started sometime? Thanks everyone.
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In reply to: Going to Breakneck today (4/6) from around 9:30 to 3:30. Anyone is welcome to join us, though I realize this is last minute. No I'm going to stumble back over to the coffee pot.
I drove down to Breakneck Wednesday, and it looked like there were fresh no trespassing and private property signs just before the usual pull-off and trail in. Is there some new access issue anyone is aware of, or could it just be a reminder to stay away from the houses further up the road?
As we didn't want to cause any problems if access has changed, we decided to climb poorly at Krahlick instead. While we're not climbing in good style, it was a beautiful day.
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I've noticed those as well, and they've been there since last year. I'm not AWARE of any access issues, so like a good climbing bum I ignore the signs and just try to be kind of discreet. Several of the locals have seen us walking in and out of the location and never said anything.
I spoke to a cop friend of mine who suggested that the worst possible outcome of this was getting a small fine, and in all probability we'd just be asked to leave.
There have been SOME no tresspassing signs for a long time, and climbers have still been tolerated/allowed. You know as much as I do.
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In reply to: I've noticed those as well, and they've been there since last year. I'm not AWARE of any access issues, so like a good climbing bum I ignore the signs and just try to be kind of discreet. Several of the locals have seen us walking in and out of the location and never said anything. I spoke to a cop friend of mine who suggested that the worst possible outcome of this was getting a small fine, and in all probability we'd just be asked to leave. There have been SOME no tresspassing signs for a long time, and climbers have still been tolerated/allowed. You know as much as I do.
Good to know. I couldn't recall if the signs were there during my last visit. I'll just park a bit further out and mind my manners. Your cop friend is probably right regarding the legal ramifications. In my mind, damaging relations with the landowner and preventing any future hopes of climbing in an area would suck worse than a ticket.
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In reply to: In reply to: I've noticed those as well, and they've been there since last year. I'm not AWARE of any access issues, so like a good climbing bum I ignore the signs and just try to be kind of discreet. Several of the locals have seen us walking in and out of the location and never said anything. I spoke to a cop friend of mine who suggested that the worst possible outcome of this was getting a small fine, and in all probability we'd just be asked to leave. There have been SOME no tresspassing signs for a long time, and climbers have still been tolerated/allowed. You know as much as I do. Good to know. I couldn't recall if the signs were there during my last visit. I'll just park a bit further out and mind my manners. Your cop friend is probably right regarding the legal ramifications. In my mind, damaging relations with the landowner and preventing any future hopes of climbing in an area would suck worse than a ticket.
I agree. I'm pretty mindfull of harming future access. Some people routinely leave trash all over breakneck (beer cans and the like) and I make an effort to haul some of it out when I'm there.
I suspect (hope?) that the garbage is from local kids drinking or the like, and not climbers, but I don't know if the landowner will make the distinction.
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charley
Apr 8, 2005, 10:32 PM
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Anyone going to the coopers rock climbers coalition in cr sunday? I have given it some thought but not sure yet. I am kinda committed somewhere else.
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I am heading down. If anyone is in Pittsburgh and would like a ride, please let me know.
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charley
Apr 12, 2005, 8:57 PM
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Anyone going to the mill wed. 4/13/05?
Does anyone here climb?
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Apr 13, 2005, 2:09 AM
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I'd love to go to the mill, unfortunately I've put off the yard work as long as I can stand it. Charley, did you make it down to Cooper's for the open house?
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charley
Apr 13, 2005, 2:30 AM
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I did not make it to coopers. I went to lisbon with friends. Climbed til I was sore. Had a great weekend. Did anyone go to coopers?
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microbarn
Apr 13, 2005, 1:36 PM
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yea, myself and 3 others drove down. It was a beautiful day. We did some bouldering and top roping. We also practiced some trad placements. I didn't climb very well at all, but the day was a success on the whole.
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charley
Apr 13, 2005, 4:23 PM
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Headed to seneca sat. morn.
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microbarn
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I would love to tag along, but my research funding is being threatened. Looks like I won't see any more weekends until my internship in Boston starts. :(
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mmindtrap
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Could anyone reccomend a good campground to stay at while visiting Mcconnells Mill state park?
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charley
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Hey Nate, what brings you out this way? My first though is the mill is not worth traveling to. There is a campground nearby. I can't think of the name at the moment. If you stop at the park office and get a park map. Go from the office up by the playground area, turn right then left. Head towards the breakneck bridge area and you go right past a campgrounds. What would you be coming to the mill for. I hope more than the climbing. It is only half hour away from me, so I am there alot. Coopers is much nicer but over 2 hrs, from me so hard to make after work.
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mmindtrap
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I have some friends in New Castle that I haven't seen in years, and my brother in-law wants to go climbing and camping. So in order to kill 2 birds with one stone... Charley, maybe we could meet up there?
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Apr 15, 2005, 4:32 PM
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Hey Bill, Hey Nate it's long time. I made the mistake of reading forums and now I'm really diying to climb! Unfortinately as Bill knows I'm in Pakistan until July. Keep on climbing and making me jealous cause I'll still be reading about everyones plans and TRs. The closest rock is about 1000 miles from the hot hell hot where I'm living. See ya all in July and be safe.
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charley
Apr 18, 2005, 9:24 PM
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Nate, Would that make me the third stone? :lol:
Dave, I spent the weekendat seneca. Wew were both so sore and tired our climbing sucked, but we still had a good weekend.
For anyone who would like to know, the teepees in princess snowbird rent for $25/ nite. You can sleep 4 which makes it about the same as a tent site. Electric heater, ceiling fan, and insulation. That might even be worth it in the summer.
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charley
Apr 21, 2005, 9:42 PM
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Where is everyone. Yinz can't all be out climbing all the time. Hope ya got out this week cause it's snowing this weekend. Hey Vixen, Where ya been. Posting on a ski site now? Work shouldn't keep you that busy. Now if it's a man that's a different story. Take care all. cya on therock.
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Apr 23, 2005, 1:30 AM
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Stooopid Weather!
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charley
Apr 24, 2005, 6:30 PM
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In reply to: Stooopid Weather!
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microbarn
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you don't like that there is a 70% chance of rain this weekend? I can't understand why.
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charley
Apr 28, 2005, 10:13 PM
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Anyone going to seneca next weekend for climbing and party? Does anyone climb anymore? Are all ya'll (that's yinz for some of ya) so busy climbing, you never post here anymore? I think I'm spending theweekend in coopers.
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Good point. I have about 2 weeks left before I leave Pittsburgh for the Summer. I am looking for some others to join me when I go out. Starting Wednesday, May 6th, I would love to go out. Post up here if you want to join me.
I am VERY open to suggestions, but my current plans are:
probably May 7th - the mill for one night
Saturday-Monday May 9-11 - the New
I would love to have someone join myself and 2 friends at the New. We need atleast a 4th to keep the pairs even. Also, this will be our first time at the New. So, it would be nice to have someone help a bit with the basics of where to go. I understand Roger's ??? is the place to stay? any recommendations otherwise?
I heard there are more easier routes at Summersville. maybe we will head over there after we get spanked at the New. Hopefully we will be able to find something.
Once again, if you can join us and prefer something else, I would be willing to change plans.
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I want to learn trad. So, I would love to head out to Seneca and follow someone.
So, is anyone able to join us? Is anyone doing any climbing?
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Apr 29, 2005, 10:50 AM
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Anyone going to coopers this weekend? I should be there both days.
Some jerk was smashing rock at the mill. The h&r route where the flake was broken last year had a hole down very low smashed. It shouldn't affect the climb except to make a better hol for someone short. Someone also broke the corner of a hold that I use to get on the traverse on the left side of island block, making it a bit harder. These where smashed with another rock. Didn't see who did it.
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ladylayback
Apr 29, 2005, 7:00 PM
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I'm going to try to get down to Coopers Sunday if the weather holds. I said it before and I'll say it again:
Stupid weather! :evil:
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May 2, 2005, 6:24 PM
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Went to Cooper's on Sunday and it was DRY! :D A bit chilly and breezy but that did stop any of us from having a good day.
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Anybody interested in climbing on Wed. Breakneck, Lost Crag, Krahlick, Coll's, Coops, Undeveloped boulders anywhere really.... Get in touch or post and we can work out details.
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charley
May 4, 2005, 11:09 PM
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I was at the mill this afternoon and most things were dry. It was cool.
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While I pushed for other areas, my friends overruled me. We will be at the mill tomorrow starting at 1. Probably be at the Rim Road area for a bit then move on. This will be my last time climbing in PA until fall since I will be away this summer.
I will be at the NRG Sunday and Monday. I just bought all the components to my homemade stick clip and am looking forward to using that. If you want to come send me a PM.
If anyone wants to come up to boston, I have a floor free of rent for you to crash on. I have a ton of my own equipment to save you transporting it. We could hit up Rumney, White Mountains, or the Gunks any weekend.
Hope you all have a good summer till I get back in early September.
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Ok I can finally say it. NICE WEATHER I got some climbs in today, and it looks like the weather will hold all weekend. Sounds like a trip to Coopers to me.
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May 8, 2005, 11:58 PM
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hope you had a good one sshine. Was at the mill sat and bfonte today. Sun was a schorcher tday at bfonte. Had a good day on therock though.
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Anybody going to Coopers Rock tomorrow?
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Hi everybody!
The Vixen is back, and ready to rock. People (Popp, Tarwater, et al) are going to White Rocks tomorrow. Meeting at the Hi To at 9 AM. Forecast is rain after 3.
The Vixen cannot be there, but am passing it along in the spirit of solidarity that moved her to found this forum so long ago.
Anyway, the spring has exploded upon us, so let's get out there!
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Good to see you back, Vixen.
Anyone going to the doings at nrg this weekend?
Going to the mill after work tonight 5/17/05 tues. anyone interested.
I told you these western pa folks don't post much. Maybeeee they are climbing.
All the time?
I hope all you wpa ppl had a great weekend. The weather couldn't have been better. I climbed at the mill on sat andcoopers tday, 5/22/05. :lol: :lol:
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should I just say hello to keep this thing active?
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I went to High Rocks in Derry today... It was a bit of a disappointment!
I have spent years listening to people talking about Derry. I never checked out High Rocks because the access was always questionable. I envisioned the best climbing in Pa with what people had said to me over the years but I didn't want to chance endangering future access by trespassing.
Last night at the gym I overheard some climbers talking about High Rocks and how it was definitely open for public access. I took the bait and drove there today even though it was raining. I didn't plan on climbing, I just wanted to see if the rumor was true. I confirmed that the area was open and hurried back the path, racing my partner for the first look at the cliff. Much to my suprise, I found garbage everywhere and very little climbing. Perhaps I built the area up in my own mind, but nonetheless I was extremely let down.
Anyhow... for those of you questioning the access, High Rocks is open. Make sure to park prior to the signs restricting motorized vehicle use or you may get a ticket. Beware of broken glass! Lastly, don't listen to my negative rambling... I saw at least a couple of climbs that looked worthwhile...
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May 25, 2005, 11:58 PM
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Derry high rocks is not the greatest place to climb but for folks in da burgh it is close. It is sad about the trash, but then that is how some of the climbs got there names. Ya know washing machine, lawn mower, etc. Maybe if access is really settled the climbing community can have a clean up day.
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anyone here want to climb somewhere this weekend?
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There's a rumor that many in the crowd will be at the Mills Sunday.
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In reply to: There's a rumor that many in the crowd will be at the Mills Sunday.
Will I see you there? It is raining now so the mill will not be at its best but I will have my crashpad and there are some overhung areas that stay dry for awhile after the rain.
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I'm a new comer to the forum. . .and climbing. My two teenage sons and I (despite the moniker "Sultana" I'm the dad) began climbing a few years ago and have intensified in the past year. If anyone has any suggestions on places to go within a few hours drive of the Erie area, camping for a few days a plus, I'd appreciate it. Keep in mind we're new-limited to top roping for the moment and nice juicy holds.
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charley
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McConnels mills state park or rimrock overlook near kinzu dam. There is toperoping at both.
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Jun 6, 2005, 8:19 PM
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I told ya. :lol: :lol:
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What is everyone up to? The heat has arrived and with it afternoon thunderstorms. Excellent climbing weather!
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i'm thinking about krahlik on friday weather permitting...
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Zdrasti kazvam se Spas i sam ot Pittsburgh,
savsem sluchaino vidiah post-a ti kogato tarsih informacia za katerene v Bg.
Ako tarsish partniori za katerene proveri:
http://www.pittecp.org/
Tova e katerechen, alpinistki, ski, biking, i t.n klub ot Pittsburgh. Mnogo gotini pichove sa i dobri katerachi. Az vzeh tiahnia kurs po katerene, a esenta organizirat seriozen kurs po alpinisam.
Az se vrashtam v rodinata za liatoto, no na esen moje da katerim zaedno ako imash jelanie.
Mejdu drugoto, az tarsia partniori za liatoto v Balgaria. Ot Plovdiv sam - ako imash niakakvi poznati pishi mi.
Veselo liato,
Spas
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mountainrat
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Hello all:
I went climbing somewhere I have never been before today- "Devil's Den," outside Ridgway, Pa. There are 2 or 3 sport routes, 3 sets of anchors, and LOADS of potential for top-roping, and future project development. I have a few pics of a roof project I am becoming obsessed with, and I'll put 'em on as soon as I get them downloaded. It is a bit of a hike, but the only other place I have climbed on such featured sandstone was the Red River Gorge. Hit me up if you're interested in trying it out!
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charley
Jun 12, 2005, 2:47 AM
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Eric, That sounds interesting. A girl I climb with in the summers lives in Sheffield and we are always looking for places closer to her to climb. I am going to co. in a week or so and won't be back to the fourth of july. Maybe we can get together after that. We are also planning on going to Warren and climbing at rimrock and Jakes. I can let you know when we decide. I forgot about you moving up there. We usually make a cpl trips a year to bellfonte but someone is asking climbers to stay away from there for a month or two as access is being worked on. We'll have to get together.
For the rest, anyone climbing the mill or logtown sunday? I was at the mill today and it was wet. It rained here tonight too.
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climbinvixen
Jun 13, 2005, 8:39 PM
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Linden,
I couldn't tell if you needed a partner for Friday, but if you do, I have a friend who may be able to climb then, weather permitting.
Shoot me a PM with a number to call and I'll send it over. I hope this is cool.
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mountainman
Jun 15, 2005, 5:19 AM
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Hi everybody,
It's been a long time, and I've been busy climbing, and other worthy pursuits. 29 days on rock so far this year. The ice season required northern journeys to manifest.
I'm glad to see the forum limping along. I'll climb with anyone, anytime, circumstances permitting.
The biggest climb so far this year was the East Buttress of Middle Cathedral in Yosemite. Incredible route. Burly descent. I've had a couple of 2 day jaunts to the New River Gorge this Spring. I never knew what an incredible place it was. A lifetime of climbs.
I've been to White Rocks, McConnell's Mills, High Rocks and Coopers so far this year. Kralicks would be stellar.
We all need to get out more, for the health enhancing qualities of fresh air and sunshine, exercise and stimulation of our healing energies. Can anyone deny this?
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climbinvixen
Jun 15, 2005, 5:24 AM
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MM,
It has been a long time, and I've missed ya! You should hook up with Linden for Friday.
I appreciate the offer, and we should definitely get out more. I hope to see you soon!
Vixen
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jlc325i
Jun 15, 2005, 11:36 AM
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I'm up for anything. Just pm me and I'll give you a #. I think I'm going to go to kralick with the exkursion top rope class (I took it a while back and Fred is a good guy to go with)... I have plans with friends to try to get to the mill after work today (6/15) but cats and dogs are supposed to fall from the sky. In that case I'll just get my climbing in at climb north
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Hey guys, Im rather new to the sport and was wonderin if anyone had the time to show a noob the ropes. I've climbed a few times this year with my friend, and would like to get out more. I live near connellsville and could go anytime saturday or any weeknight around 5. Any response would be appreciated.
-940
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mountainman
Jun 16, 2005, 3:57 AM
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I was climbing at Coopers Tuesday, and a lot of the rock was wet with condensation, especially on shady cracks. Not a problem if it was in the sun, but with the temp near 90, who wants that?
Also talked to a local who said the proposal to add bolts to allow top ropeing of popular climbs may be coming soon. A proposal is being sent to the state park, and hopefully it will be smooth sailing.
It would stop the abuse of the trees, and save a lot of time, especially onsome of the harder ones to set up. This is a good thing, and I hope there's a consensus among climbers on this.
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climbinvixen
Jun 16, 2005, 5:58 AM
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I would like to see bolts at Coopers. Clip a couple quickdraws, clip the rope and be done. Titanium Digit and Copenhagen are especially tricky to set up. The trees have suffered enough!
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jlc325i
Jun 16, 2005, 12:21 PM
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I went to the mill wednesday after work (around 5:30pm). It was a little slimy, but fairly typical of the area. climbing was still good but we started to get some drizzle a little before 8pm so we ducked out. I'll be going to Kralick on sunday, but I know the Exkursion (http://www.exkursion.com) class is going to be there. I've climbed in and with the class before so it's no big deal... Hopefully Matt (Unconquerable), and another friend of mine will be joining me. I'll get to show him a little bit of the area :)
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charley
Jun 17, 2005, 1:33 AM
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I'm leaving for colorado in a week for a bit more than a week. Plenty of party and climbing. yee haw.
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climbinvixen
Jun 18, 2005, 4:41 AM
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Hey big guy,
Have a great trip and give all the old guys my best regards.
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charley
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I'm leaving shortly for logtown quarry in lisbon, ohio. Cpl easy tr's and short bolted climbs from 5.6 to 5.12. Google it for directions. If any of you burgh ppl want to climb some of us will be there all day. It's less than 1 1/2 hrs from the burgh.
Logtown was nice. Had a great day. Going to the mill tomorrow. There will be a bunch of pburgh ppl there.
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jlc325i
Jun 20, 2005, 11:58 AM
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I went climbing at Kralick on the 17th with Matt (Unconquerable). It was a pretty nice day, I think I scared the hell out of him on the drive in (and out for that matter) :twisted:
I also went on sunday. The Exkursion class was there and I got to tie in to a few of their ropes. It was also a very nice day, but no scaring anybody :( I'm going back out to Kralick on Saturday (6/25) to learn some protection placement. I'm beat. Time to do some work.
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mountainman
Jun 21, 2005, 6:10 AM
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How is summer climbing going for everyone? This is defintely peak season. Being outside, breathing fresh air and working the body is the very best therapy.
Linden, I'd like to hit Kralick with you sometime soon. Heading for the New for two days, and it will undoubtablybe muy fantastico.
Good partners make all the difference in the world, which is why we're all here trying to find each other. We really should pick a time and place to get together, just to break the ice. There's no telling where it could go.
Charly has been very good about posting his plans, and I'll try to do better in the future.
I have discovered oil of citronella is effective against flies and mosquitoes.
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djmclimber
Jun 24, 2005, 10:50 AM
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Hey all,
My summer is about ready to start. I've missed the early climbing season (been in Pakistan since April 2 will be home July 1) and am dying to climb something. If any one is going out day climbing over the July 4th weekend, post up I'd like to join ya. I need to get back in shape.
Doyle, you posted that you climbed in Yosemite...I'd like to talk about your trip. I'm going there late August.
Bill good luck in Co. Climb safe and take a lot of pictures.
Cheers! I can't wait to see Western PA again!
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steve_00
Jun 24, 2005, 2:30 PM
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Is anyone looking for a partner for this saturday, the 25th? Me and my cousin are looking to go, and I have never been outdoor climbing, just in gyms, and she is home from college and doens't have her ropes and overything with her. We are in the Pittsburgh area and do have our own transportation.
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wargowsky
Jun 26, 2005, 1:47 AM
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last weekend a friend of mine went camping near the waterfall at
Krahlick. he left his car parked off to the side of the road where it
wouldn't be in the way. sometime during the night someone broke into
his car, stole his cds, ripped off his wing and windshield wipers,
then rammed the car 3 or 4 times pushing it into the woods and pinning
it against a tree ($10,000+ damage). the state trooper
that wrote his accident report said that there was a church group
camping there 2 weeks ago that had nine cars that were totaled in the
same way. over the last 2 months there have been 15 cars
damaged/totaled. so if you are going to be climbing/camping in that
area watch out for the crazy rednecks of Krahlick. the police recommend not spending the night there for a while
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climbinvixen
Jun 27, 2005, 5:09 AM
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I am truly sorry to hear this, but glad it's being brought out into the open. I had not heard of anyone's car being messed there with in years, but perhaps I just haven't gotten the real story.
I've never had a problem just parking on top during the day, but I invite others to mention this or other problems they've had with their cars when climbing.
What a shameful thing to show climbers from other states.
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wargowsky
Jun 27, 2005, 6:40 AM
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from what i've heard it's still prefectly fine to park around there during the day. only cars left there overnight have been damaged.
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mountainman
Jun 29, 2005, 11:19 PM
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New trip crashed due to partner's illness. Heading to Seneca Thursday on a day trip.
Hopefully we can avoid the sun.
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mountainman
Jul 3, 2005, 2:40 AM
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Met the Intimidator at 6:30 and we cruised in 3 hours. Almost no one there on a Thursday. Went up Ecstasy, 3rd classing up the 5.0 stuff, and did it as one pitch using a 73 meter rope. Got pretty hot & sweaty.
Rapped The Burn, then climbed it. Sweet climb.
Really wanted to avoid the sun, so we did the first pitch of Theis Direct, then the last two pitches of Pleasant Overhangs. Good deep shade, but it was so hot on the summit, and being 3:30, we rapped, descended and cooled off in the crick while the sirens sang so sweetly.
Drove home through heavy thunderstorms and was home by eight.
Despite his moniker, the Intimidator is great company, which made the driving very nice indeed. Life is so good. La Vie C'est Bon!
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jlc325i
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i'm looking at starting leading/trad. if anyone around wants to go somewhere and have me 2nd/clean a route I am more than up for it. I live at the northern part of allegheny. pm me. If anyone also wants to ever meet at the mill, i'm up for that. I should be going the weekend after the 4th of july.
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charley
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jlc, tell me a bit about you. Your profile is kinda empty. I know some folks in da burgh where you should be able to learn trad. I believe the best way to learn multipitch trad is to learn the basics from someone who knows and then follow them learning as you go.
Welcome home Dave!!! I don't know how or this site doesn't do the big letters, but welcome home anyhow. I was going to call today but I just got home last night and my stuff still isn't put away. I got the emails, bills, and mail but still have some unpacking to do. Gotta get ready for seneca this weekend.
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mountainman
Jul 5, 2005, 4:53 AM
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Heading for the New Tuesday and Wednesday. TR on return.
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jlc325i
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In reply to: jlc, tell me a bit about you. Your profile is kinda empty. I know some folks in da burgh where you should be able to learn trad. I believe the best way to learn multipitch trad is to learn the basics from someone who knows and then follow them learning as you go. Welcome home Dave!!! I don't know how or this site doesn't do the big letters, but welcome home anyhow. I was going to call today but I just got home last night and my stuff still isn't put away. I got the emails, bills, and mail but still have some unpacking to do. Gotta get ready for seneca this weekend.
sorry about that. I put a short write-up on me so if you're curious, click away. I've taken a placing pro class with exkursion, but as you say, I'd think the best way to pick it up is to follow up. Thanks.
Also I'm still looking at going out this weekend probably to the mill. PM for my # if interested... hope everyone had a good 4th
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mountainman
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As promised, a short trip report of 2 days at the New.
Drove down to meet Scott early July 5th, and went through some heavy rain. Not auspicious. More rain driving south, so we hung at the Bridge Buttress instead of ranging farther afield.
Top roped everything, and just moved the rope from cold shuts to cold shuts; an easy way to climb yourself into oblivion. It was hot and humid, so the clouds were welcome. Started on Happy Head, 5.8 with a genuine chimney, then Promised 5.10b. Got our ass kicked on Lollipop, a 5.7 offwidth. We could not move up on it!
Finished the day doing Gemini right 5.10a and Gemini left, 5.10c. Hard hard hard, but absolutely awesome. We were cooked and glad to call it a day.
Hiked down after dinner to explore Fern Buttress, but it was so hot, sweaty and buggy we split. Then a 50 MPH wind came through and the rain. I crashed early and slept 10 blissful hours in my tent. Scott said it rained a couple times but I was unaware.
Today we were up and on the Endless Loop trail by 8:30. Went down the Fern Point ladder, turned left and walked a good ways, then Scott led Total E Clips, 5.8 and we toproped the unnamed 5.10a slab climb to the right. We continued on to the lovely Finial Point with two routes; Thought Crime, 5.7, and Stroke Victim, 5.8. Tasty.
It was hot and humid, and the holds all felt kind of slimy, so we were ready to boogaloo. We climbed out the Honeymoon Ladders, and Scott asked if I'd like to climb Crescent Moon, 5.7 ****. I've been eyeing it, so he dropped a rope down, and I went back down the ladders and tied in. It was hard for a 7, and took some thought to find the moves. It was a lot of work, but of course I'm very happy to have done it.
We streaked out the 2 1/2 miles, were on the road by 3, in Fairmont by 5, and I was home by 6;30, hardly even missed by the family.
This is living, brothers and sisters
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charley
Jul 7, 2005, 7:47 PM
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Gotta go pack for a weekend at seneca. Ya'll have a great wknd.
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Jul 7, 2005, 8:22 PM
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Tell that big ole rat at the top of the crack on p.1 of Skyline I said hey.
K.
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charley
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In reply to: Tell that big ole rat at the top of the crack on p.1 of Skyline I said hey. K. |
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Jul 12, 2005, 3:51 AM
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Went to Coopers yesterday. It was almost empty at 11am. A site I've never seen on a summer weekend. I guess everybody was at Seneca or the New. I hope everybody had a good weekend.
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Jul 12, 2005, 9:57 PM
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Hey PA climbers...don't forget about our 3rd annual gathering at the gunks. Curt Harler (author of Climb PA) will be there.
Please see the link for more information:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...iewtopic.php?t=91049
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mountainman
Jul 13, 2005, 7:39 PM
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Monday & Tuesday at the New.
Monday was Bubba Buttress. "It should be avoided during the hot days of summer." New River Gorge, Steve Cater. Live & learn, eh?
Climbs were: Duck in a Noose 5.8
Face it Bubba start, then traverse to upper Basic Bubba 5.9
Basic Bubba Crack 5.9
Daisy Cutter 5.7 ****
It may not seem like a lot, but the heat & humidity were stultifyingly horrible. Chalk evaporated with every hold.
Tuesday was Junkyard Wall. Much more pleasant, but still a major sweat fest while climbing.
New River Gunks 5.7 ***
Four Sheets to the Wind 5.9+ **** WOW!!!!
The Entertainer 5.10a ****
The Distortionist 5.6
New Yosemite 5.9 ***
A star studded day.
I hear Bill, John, Hank & Spyder had a stellar trip out west. Any road tales?
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charley
Jul 14, 2005, 9:01 PM
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We had a great trip. Where near co. sprgs most of the time. Climbed acpl days in 11 mile canyon. Where Hank and I led easy trad. The rest did some toproping and led some trad. Eric was with us and hadn't led in a cpl yrs, so he was getting his lead head back. We then went to a kinda new place called red rock canyon which is bolted climbs all low angle. I tr a 5.9 and led a 5.7 onsight. Which may be warm ups for some folks but was going up a grade or more for me. I think it was more the gradeing in the area than anything by me. Red rock was a nice place with some interesting climbing. Very soft sandstone with little for holds and the ones you find may break off. We then went to veadauwoo wy. Climbed there for a day and a half then started th 1500 mile drive home. Got back for the fourth then headed for seneca the next weekend. A great time was had by all. Spyders web site has some good pics.
Going to coopers this wknd. That's a lot of climbing for an old fart like me.
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Jul 14, 2005, 9:14 PM
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Age is only in your mind
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charley
Jul 14, 2005, 10:33 PM
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Tell that to my legs and lungs. Actually age had nothing to do with the fact that there is no oxygen at 8000' , at least for my flatlander lungs.
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mountainman
Jul 15, 2005, 12:32 AM
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As a man thinketh, so he becomes.
i.e.: Call yourself old, you will be old.
Call yourself stupid, you will be stupid.
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Jul 15, 2005, 4:42 PM
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Call youself a hampster, you will be committed
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jlc325i
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Guys... I'm a hampster.
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charley
Jul 18, 2005, 9:27 PM
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If the weather holds there will be some folks from the burgh at the mill on wed nite. Bring your gear and come meet some local climbers. I went to a climbing party over the wknd. I think more party than climbing. Rock was wet so was the beer. We climbed, it rained, we drank and ate. Had good time.
There is a thread in reg. disc. about someone losing their shoes at lost crag.
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charley
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Had a good time at the mill tonight. Musta been a dozen ppl. There were about eight ropes up. We climbed till after nine. vo will be there sun.
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Jul 22, 2005, 4:09 PM
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Hi, how you doin? I'm new to the site and always lookin to do some climbin. I usually climb out at 90ft. in ligonier but climbed at krahlik with the class from exkursions. I have all my own gear to top rope but never enough partners. I've been climbin bout 2years now, so I'm still pretty much a newbee, but i do know how to set up safely. Probably been asked before, but where exactly is the Lost Crag? Thanks.
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charley
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Go to routes, north america, pa. under the links is tim's climbing page. There is a map, guide, and directions. That doesn't work try www.climbpa.telerama.com
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Two big weekends with the Intimidator and his Merry Men. AKA: Hot Fun in the Summertime.
Last weekend I wanted to show Big I the Junkyard at the New. It was pretty wet, too wet to get up 4 Sheets. We did New Yosemite, New River Gunks, Team Jesus and the Entertainer. A tiring day and I was snoozing in my tent quite early, as the rain fell through the night. The morning was too wet, so we boogied to Summerville and hiked in to the Orange Oswald wall. Flailed on Voodoo Surfing, but did get up Chungo Goes Bouldering. Watched some guy solo up some big face, then take a 40 footer into the lake. Such sublime lunacy.
This weekend was Seneca, where I've only been one day this year. I was teamed with Mikey Brown, badly hung over and slow to get moving. We warmed up on Neck Press, then Marshall's Madness, Cottonmouth and Triple S. I was impressed, these all being new to me. I don't mind admitting I was too blown out to finish Cottonmouth, and basically cried "No Mas, No Mas" So we did Monkey See, Monkey Do, West Poll and Prune, and would have done The Burn but it was occupied, so we went swimming. Ah. Had trouble getting to bed, what with everyone drinking on the porch of the climbing shop hour after hour. Finally just grabbed my stuff and walked over to Princess Snowbird in the dark, and had no troubled sleep or trouble sleeping, either.
Sunday was more of the same. Mike and I warmed up on Le Gourmet, then he led Marshall's Madness and Crack of Dawn in one pitch. Spectacular! "One of the best routes at Seneca" Tony Barnes.
Mike wanted to fall off something, so he led up Broken Neck and took a 30 footer. It wore through the leather of my glove, but better than my hand. The crack bloodied his hand so we walked around to the East face and shade, and found Big I and Ronnie on Pollux. We all climbed it, but I had a harder time on it than last year. Fatigue? Humidity? Recent birthday? I don't know but I did it. The maniacs set a toprope on Spock's Brain, 5.11a and I got maybe a third up it. Ha ha.
I was pretty tired, so I took off a little early but went right instead of left at the base of the downclimb, and after some exciting descents, emerged at the base of Skyline Traverse and found my friends. Was home by 10 and slept like a log.
Sweet young thing to Warren Harding: "Why do you climb?"
Warren: "Because we're insane!"
I may take a week off, being a little beat up.
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There are a few folks going to logtown in lisbon ohio, sat morn.
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there's a small group of us going to cooper's tomorrow am, looks like great weather. we'll be at roofrocks or maybe rock city -- might hook up with a couple other guys from ECP at some point-- always nice to share ropes with folks to save time....
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Sunday report from Coopers.
Went with Ironman, two brothers had Sunset Wall festooned with ropes, we hung one on Stop and Go and one on Stockholm. Climbed for about 6 hours and it was very pleasant. Nice and dry, excellent friction.
Heard a great West Virginia jole:
Why can't they solve any crimes in West Virginia?
There's no dental records and the DNA's all the same!
Since no one has posted, I'll mention that I'm leaving for the New in a few hours, to climb in this terrible heat and humidity. Pray for MM. Until then, frolic like the wild animals you all are.
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Hi everybody, the Vixen is back.
Glad to see the forum is limping along. I still wish we could all get together and meet, but the impression I get here is that few want to meet and share. Is that so? Believe me, the day will come when we all will wish we'd spent more time caring for each other.
Just a gentle wish that we all treat each other with kindness and love.
Lots of appreciation for Charley, for letting people know of plans and inviting them along. I wish I could get out some, but currently, the bod is not in tune for what i want it to do. So I hope to live through your epics. Post and share, brothers and sisters.
Peace,
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charley
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Vixen, there are folks climbing at the mill tonight. If you want to see the get together thing, pick a place, and a date and see who is interested.
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If you want to attend a gathering, make the hike up to the Gunks for this:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/topic/91049
It's always a good time, with lots of climbing and meeting of new folks.
K.
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Hello all... looking for partners. Looking to get out this weekend, next week, anytime. Lost Crag, The Knobs, Coll's Cove, ... Lets get a group together. Anyone interested... Holla back!
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Group started...
Friday evening 8/5 we will be climbing at Breakneck rocks. Meet time is 4:30 Drop me a line or just show up if interested. Anyone and everyone is invited.
Also still looking for people for next week. Anyone going out?
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Another trip report:
Wednesday, August 3, met with Scooter at 8AM as usual. Was climbing at the New by 10:30. First climbed Horton's Tree, short and sweet, then hiked way out past the Bridge Buttress, way farther than I've ever been been. On the Central Bridge Buttress, climbed Midnight Moonlight, a long climb moving up to the left, then over a couple roofs to the top. Not so hard, but nice. So wandering, it would not be a good top rope. Found I'd forgotten to charge my photo battery, so no tasty pics. Hot and humid, but not bad for the time of the year.
Then the best of the day, The Hopfenperle Special. A wide crack at the start, which I laybacked, then a great finger crack, way harder than the grade of 5.7. A special climb. Then some rough hiking over to the North Bridge Buttress. Scooter hurt his rib leading Orange Blossom Special, so we hiked out past the Pinnacle to look at two tremendous cracks, dropped down the road and hiked back.
Thursday, we went to the Bridge Buttress to check out Scooter's rib, and after toproping Easily Flakey, found he wouldn't be climbing for a while. So we toproped all day. His loss was my gain, as first I climbed Angel's Arete, 5.10b. A angelic climb, and it took me a while to find the crux moves, but I climbed it. So proud of this one. Just to the right, did Layback, 5.9+, a polished nightmare. Then did Tree Route, 5.10a, which I fell in love with. The moves are fantastic, demanding and dreamy. I though the tank was empty, but we set up Jaws, 5.9, and I chewed it up. Luckily we'd been in the shade all day, for emerging into the sun it was so mega-hot, we were melting.
Anyway, pray for Scooter, and since I don't get any feedback on my trip reports, if you don't want me writing them, just say so. An open invitation to all you out there! I hope this year is going great for you. I've learned that to climb better, you have to climb harder climbs. A life changing year.
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Aug 6, 2005, 3:26 AM
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Nearly 12k views and 294 replies. Are there really that many lurkers out there who've never said a thing?
A few of us are going to Westwood tomorrow. Probably get there around 10. It's a sport area. Not top-ropable as far as I know
Now I feel really virtuous.
I've been thinking. I never got better as long as I was just climbing the same climbs over and over, although perhaps a foundation was being laid. Perhaps it's wrong for beginners to thrown themselves at 11s too. Anyway, I needed to get to the New and start climbing harder stuff at Seneca. I'm routinely gtetting up 10s now, and that's a big step up from where I've been the last several years. If I ever get up an eleven, that'll be a big deal. Just a thought.
PS: I heard Nelson's closed. Any information?
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I went to logtown yesterday with my grandson and some climbing friends from all over. I had a great time. My grandson thought it was awsome. With a little instruction and much beta he was climbing better than I. For you pburgh ppl who have never been there you should give it a try sometime.
Nelsons is closed to climbing except with seneca guides.
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mountainman
Aug 7, 2005, 2:31 PM
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Is the Nelson closure related to the recent accident?
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charley
Aug 7, 2005, 4:49 PM
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There is a recent thread or two on this site about it. I think the accident may have brought about the decesion to close except with the guides but I don't know if that was expressed.
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mountainman
Aug 8, 2005, 12:46 AM
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I don't see how Nelson is going to make any money, only being open to the Seneca guides and their clients. I have never climbed at Nelson's, but I heard it was great.
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charley
Aug 8, 2005, 1:25 AM
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They should be making money off the viaferrata.
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Aug 8, 2005, 2:02 PM
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Not having done Nelson's, I don't savvy Via Ferrata. Could you elucidate, Professor?
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Aug 8, 2005, 2:09 PM
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Bill, the Via is still open from what I understand. Which makes sense to me, as thats probably how they get most of their income there. There's always busloads of scouts and groups of people going up the Via. Whenever I climb there, I only see a few other folks climbing. I'd hesitate to guess, but its only logical that because climbing is far more dangerous (ex. the accident recently) and most likely more of an insurance liability (less regulated, etc.) and probably doesn't bring in all that much money, Stu would be more willing to curtail climbing there for the immediate future.
Mountainman, Via Ferrata (latin for Iron Way) is sort of like climbing, but there are iron rungs and pegs set in the rock and you're clipped into cables as you go so you don't fall. NRP has a nice one, that ascends the outside of one fin, goes through a notch in said fin, crosses a bridge that spans the corridor, and descends down the other fin.
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mountainman
Aug 8, 2005, 2:50 PM
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Thanks KT for the elucidation.
King of Prussia? I was staying there for a Lacrosse touament last month. Where do you climb around there?
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I used to live in KoP. Now I'm in Royersford. I used to climb at Birdsboro by Reading, but recently it's been too muggy there to do anything. So I've been (ack!) gym climbing. And, usually on weekends I'll go to the Gunks.
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mountainman
Aug 8, 2005, 5:25 PM
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So BB was about an hour or so away. How tall were the rocks, and how big an area.
What are you now, about three hours from the Gunks?
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kimmyt
Aug 8, 2005, 5:37 PM
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Bboro is like 35 minutes from KoP. Gunks in 2.5
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Gunks in 2.5 is about what it is from Branford, CT, where I have a summer presence, although not much this year. I certainly understand your desires for the Gunks. There no place comparable to them.
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charley
Aug 8, 2005, 10:46 PM
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Thanks kimmy. Saved me alot of typing.
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Hi everyone,
Over the Labor Day weekend, my GF and I will be driving to Columbus, OH from NY, NY for the US vs Mexico World Cup match; we would love to perhaps get in some climbing on that Sunday/Monday as we passed through PA on our way home.
Any advice you could share on good places to climb (trad, sport, TR) and places to camp (attempting to be fiscally responsible) would be most appreciated. Feel free to drop me a line via PM or email: chefmtb at yahoo dot com.
Thanks in advance for any assistance you can render. Cheers, and I hope to see some people at the PA Gunks Gathering.
T
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mountainman
Aug 9, 2005, 9:57 PM
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I would recommend Seneca or the New for quality, but that's hardly on the I-70 corridor. Any ideas that's not a pathetic choss heap?
PS: is anyone avoiding climbing what it's this hot and humid? Inquiring minds want to know.
PPS: This forum seems as dead as the Dodo. Anyway, here's a link to a groovy blog devoted to mid-Atlantic climbing.
http://www.wirednut.com/
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charley
Aug 13, 2005, 7:14 PM
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Hope you got my pm tai.
I will be at the mill tommrw sun 8/14 with some friends. We should have a few tr's up. Bring your stuff and come on down. I think they are getting a late start and that's ok with me cause I got spanked at logtown tday. Gotta go drink some beer now.
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climbinvixen
Aug 15, 2005, 12:39 PM
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Logtown can beat you up. I got hammered at Cole's Cove Sunday, but I got in a few good ones too.
A real gem is merry old Cole. Anyone ever been there?
Also the blackberries are ripening by the handfuls right now.
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mountainman
Aug 15, 2005, 12:42 PM
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Logtown can beat you up. I got hammered at Cole's Cove Sunday, but I got in a few good ones too.
A real gem is merry old Cole. Anyone ever been there?
Also the blackberries are ripening by the handfuls right now.
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brianherman
Aug 16, 2005, 6:07 PM
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Mountain Man,
I've been wanting to know more about Col's / Coll's / Cole's Cove. It sounds like you may have route beta since you named a particular route.
Care to share?
TIA
Brian
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mountainman
Aug 16, 2005, 6:59 PM
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It would have to be share and tell, Brian. Both to find the turnoff, the crag and to find the routes.
However, it has the best views of any WPa crag, and the climbs are nice and tough. It is rather obscure.
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Aug 16, 2005, 7:13 PM
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montainman,
I actually have a rough map to it. I was aware that it is very obscure. (you can find it mentioned in a few places online with no route detail...kinda' like a SWPa yeti)
I've climbed at Krahlick for a couple of years and checked out Elk a few weeks past. I was hoping to get a confirming second opinion that the routes out there are worthwhile and what spread/concentration of grades there are. A route listing/map would be fantastic to find.
Best,
Brian
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I'm not trying to bamboozle you. The climbs are not named, but the three best ones must have been in the 8-10 range. We were only in one part of the whole place. They wore me out, which surprised me, as I've been climbing very strong this year.
Now Elk is unknown to me. How was it?
When are you free? I'd love to go back. What's your climbing level? Got gear?
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charley
Aug 17, 2005, 7:55 PM
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Thr mill again this evening.
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Here's the skinny on Coll's Cove (the proper spelling) was named after Ed Coll. He was one of the pioneering climbers to discover the area back in the early 70's. The 1974 - AK Handbook has reference to Coll's cove listing it as (COLL'S COVE: Convenient, few people, chimneys OK.) Thats the only documented info. on Colls Cove that I know of. The handbook shows a map and vague directions from Dunbar. Coll's Cove is easy to see from the road on the way to Krahlick. Finding it on foot is another story. It may take you a while, even though you can see it from the road. No true route names. Getting to the edge of the rocks on top can be tricky as well as dangerous. Many rattlesnakes live right at these rocks. The growth is very thick near the outcropping. This means you basically have to crawl under the brush to get out to the rocks. (Remember this is where the snakes live). So be careful belly crawling through the brush! Coll's has some good climbing for the adventurer. Most of the climbs are under 30' tall. Top roping makes up the majority of climbing, but there are a few trad lines definately worth doing. The great views, adventure and unknown routes makes this area a fun place to visit. Much more about the whole experience than the climbing there... Enjoy!
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Brianherman,
Glad to hear you made it to Elk Rocks... Thats a place not many venture to. My hat is off to you.... How were the shuts at the top? They've always been questionable, but they are definately safer than rigging with webbing at the top :)
Tim
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Just back from the Daks. Another world. I've ice climbed there but never rock. Walls over 500 feet high in places. Nice rock too.
Making it into Lake Placid just before dark, around 8 PM. Adam showed up right on schedule at 11:15 from Rochester; he'd been calling my cell phone but I didn't have reception.
The next morning, we drove to the Cascade Pass area and climbed Pete's farewell in three pitches. Absolutely beautiful views, rock and day. Very sunny. After a down climb and a couple raps, drove almost to Chapel Pond, had a short walk through the woods and found the Beer Walls, We did 6 tasty climbs, most notably Rockaholic, 5.8, which is much more a 10. The last was really special. Labatt-Ami is only a 5.7, but climbs steeply up a corner under a huge roof, only to gain a superb hand crack to traverse out left and around the corner to finish. We cooked dinner on a table near one of the Cascade Ponds, and it was beautifully cool and gorgeous.
Friday morning there was a threat of rain, so we stayed around. Back near Chapel Pond, we had a steep hike up to the Washbowl Cliff, and did the 4 pitches of the Weissner Route, 5.5. Another Daks sandbag, as the crux moves around a block were pretty hard and awkward. We walked off and passed the Creature Wall and did 4 routes there. 2 8s and a 7, and most notably Christine, 5.10. I flailed on the crux and realized when Adam flashed it I hadn't been using my feet right. Oh well.
Unfortunately, the rain started that night. We set up a tarp Saturday morning to cook bacon and eggs, then ended up hiking 9 miles up towards Summit Rock in the rain, the mud and the steamy fetid air. We found a lean to most of the way up, and hung out for a couple hours, just enjoying the forest in the rain. It had dried up some so we took down the tarp, packed everything to do Gamesmanship, a 500 foot 5.8 at Poke O Moonshine
Adam swore prodigiously when it began raining hard in the middle of the night, and we knew the rock climbing was over. We packed up the tent and didn't have a plan. Hiking, yuck, in the rain and the mud. So we went to my plane, I loaded up and he decided to get home early. I had to wait for an hour to get a clearance out of the valley, and had a pretty bumpy ride through the weather and a soft approach into New Haven. Flew home low and slow on Monday and I'm torn between the half full and half empty views. Getting Gamesmanship would have made it perfect, but thank God for Thursday and Friday!
Can't wait to get back to the Daks.
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Hello everyone. I'm planning a trip through northwestern penn, on my way to cleveland. I'm taking a few friends and was wondering what the best place to toprope (easy access, good quality routes, and adequate anchors/bolts) is in the general area, pittsburgh or so.
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Welcome CT brother!
McConnell's Mills State Park is all that comes to mind. I think you'll be coming across on Interstate 80, so MM would be an hour south. I don't know of anything else up north.
Tim,
Thanks for the beta on Coll's Cove. Access wasn't too bad. We walked back on a gas company road for 11 minutes, then followed blazes through the woods. The trail is very meandering. No crawling through the brush. No snakes seen the day we were there.. A lot of ripe blackberries though.
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Another wed. nite atthe mill. Then sun. at krahlic. After that comes labor day wknd at nrg, 2 wknds at seneca, oct 8-10 at rumney, maybe a cpl days in nh. during the week, oct 14- 15 gunks, then time to plan something in the carolinas. Have a great one.
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Just finished bouldering at Bear Rocks outside of Mt. Pleasant. Forgot how quality the bouldering is there. I spent about 2 hrs. until my tips were bleeding. Thinking about taping up and heading back tomorrow. Anybody interested... Hit me up!
Tim
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A couple of us are trying to get a group together for The Lost Crag, The Knobs, Fish Rocks or somewhere else "Local" this Saturday. Anyone interested?
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In reply to: Hello everyone. I'm planning a trip through northwestern penn, on my way to cleveland. I'm taking a few friends and was wondering what the best place to toprope (easy access, good quality routes, and adequate anchors/bolts) is in the general area, pittsburgh or so.
MM is right about the mill and I80. You may even come across as far north as I90. Some other areas to check on are logtown quarry in lisbon ohio and hinkley near cleaveland. The mill has the easiest access and easy to rig tr's. If you decide to go let me know and I can send you some beta. Lisbon is also easy access about 1/2 mi walk at most. It is mostly sport but alot can beset up as tr by rapping down from above anchors. The climbs don't go to the top their because the rock ischossy. The ppl are mostly friendly there and will hang a rope for you on something they lead. The climbs at these places are max 40'. I really know nothing about hinckley. I have heard it's not worth a drive but if your real close and desparate, it's a place to climb. check the routes data base for some info on them all.
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In reply to: In reply to: Hello everyone. I'm planning a trip through northwestern penn, on my way to cleveland. I'm taking a few friends and was wondering what the best place to toprope (easy access, good quality routes, and adequate anchors/bolts) is in the general area, pittsburgh or so. MM is right about the mill and I80. You may even come across as far north as I90. Some other areas to check on are logtown quarry in lisbon ohio and hinkley near cleaveland. The mill has the easiest access and easy to rig tr's. If you decide to go let me know and I can send you some beta. Lisbon is also easy access about 1/2 mi walk at most. It is mostly sport but alot can beset up as tr by rapping down from above anchors. The climbs don't go to the top their because the rock ischossy. The ppl are mostly friendly there and will hang a rope for you on something they lead. The climbs at these places are max 40'. I really know nothing about hinckley. I have heard it's not worth a drive but if your real close and desparate, it's a place to climb. check the routes data base for some info on them all. |
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Bill is right about the climbing up north being non exisitant choss piles. Apart from the Mills, everything is in the southern tier of counties in PA, and they aren't spectacular. However, West Virginia has a lot of great stuff.
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Hey Ya'll,
I'm interested in NRG over Labor Day Weekend... :D
I'm also thinking about TR'ing along Chestnut Ridge this Sunday (Cole's Cove, Breakneck, etc.) if anyone's interested. A few people I climb with have expressed interest as well.
I saw Cole's Cove mentioned above.... I was there a couple weeks ago. it's a really nice area, GREAT view, and easy to get to-- the walk in is only 10-15 minutes.
Victor
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charley
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Well, college classes are starting, so it won't take you long to end up in here. Check in, let us know where you're at and what you climb. Hook up with some of the folks on here. Some folks I know are going to krahlic on sunday if the rain doesn't wash it out.
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microbarn
Aug 28, 2005, 2:34 PM
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Hello all,
Back from a summer of climbing in New England. I got to climb at Cathedral Ledges, Whites Ledge (not whitehorse), Cannon, Rumney, and others for the summer. Fun stuff. Hope you all had a fun summer too.
I guess I don't have much else to say other than Hi. Maybe we can get out sometime soon.
Dan
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Aug 31, 2005, 12:20 PM
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Welcome back, your dreams were your ticket out.
I've got a new kick for ya, night climbing!
I found Jeff the Climber on the New York Climbers Forum for Tuesday at the Gunks. However, it was going to rain, so we met Monday at 8PM at the Deli
We only had his headlamp, so he would lead with it, then I'd lower him off, take the light, follow and rap off. We did Horseman, Laurel and Rhododenron. It was amazing fun.
Without visual cues, here was no sense of exposure, . It was harder to see foot placements. Better to stick to fairly easy climbs for night climbing.
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microbarn
Aug 31, 2005, 12:30 PM
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I know I am dumber for fighting the crowds, but I am headed down to the New this weekend. Is anyone else going to be there? I will have a group of 3. So, another climber would be good to keep the pairs even. Current plan is to head out Friday-Sunday.
Dan
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charley
Aug 31, 2005, 4:14 PM
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[quote="microbarn"]I know I am dumber for fighting the crowds, but I am headed down to the New this weekend. Is anyone else going to be there? I will have a group of 3. So, another climber would be good to keep the pairs even. Current plan is to head out Friday-Sunday.
Dan, Check out events and gatherings.
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microbarn
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Yea, I already posted under the RC attacking the New thread. I thought it would be a good time to put a face to the name of people on this thread though. Thanks for pointing it out though.
Maybe I will see you all there.
I never responded before mountainman. I still haven't ever made it to the gunks, but it sounds like a fun time no matter where you are.
Dan
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A beautiful day at Coll's Cove with Big Joe. Bless the Lord!
Danno, hope to see you on the rocks soon with the Big Unit.
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Ray, Rob & I hiked up to Rattlesnake Cliff today, and what a gorgeous day it was.
The climbs are not real tall but very hard. I got a real hard workout. Wondrous!
God's in His heaven, all's right with the world.
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microbarn
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met Victor and had a good weekend down at the New. Anyone there that I might have ran into at roger's, junkyard (Saturday), or summersville (Sunday)?
Dan
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microbarn
Sep 5, 2005, 8:27 PM
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ok, a little more time today. So, I will give a bit more thorough TR.
I believe it was charley that pointed Victor in my direction. We talked on Thursday, and ended up driving down Friday night. Then, we went to Junkyard on Saturday. Ended up doing a few top ropes, but no leads. Highlights for me this day were successful jamming of New Yos. Crack and the beginning of Entertainer. Both of these I was able to jam well enough to avoid the face holds. I was very happy with this.
Partied late into the night, and we got up late on Sunday. Went to lunch at the Church cafe place. It was packed and we didn't get to the crags 'til 12:30. Summersville was packed. I am still getting my lead head together. Also, everything I was willing to lead had a deep line. I ended up being a pansy the whole weekend, and I led nothing. Came back last night.
Still a great weekend with beautiful weather, and a good group of people. I enjoyed climbing with Victor and my other two friends.
Next weekend I am looking forward to going out with Shingo on Sunday. I have him lined up to check out my leading skills. I don't want to die out there, and I think it would be great to get as much feedback on what I know and don't as possible. This will be my 3rd time trad leading, and it will be my first time to Seneca. Good stuff.
I have never been to Rattlesnake Rock or Cole's Cove. I will have to check them out later. Glad to hear that you had a good time this weekend too.
:( until this weekend, I am afraid it will be all fake rock for me. Heading to the Wall tuesday and thursday.
Dan
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Sep 5, 2005, 10:34 PM
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Glad to see you had a good time at the nrg. I spent fri evening, sun, and tday at the mill. It ain't the new, but I only used a quarter of a tank of gas all wknd. I had a good time and got lots of climbing in. Maybe I'll see you at seneca next wknd.
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microbarn
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I realized that I am retarded. I will be going to Seneca on the 18th not this weekend. So, I will probably head out somewhere for a day trip on one or both of the days this weekend.
Any suggestions or people interested in joining me?
Places I have been:
Lost Crag
Rob's Knobs
Breakneck
Krahlick
the mill
cooper's
I would need directions to another place, but would be happy going anywhere.
places I would like to go for the day trips this weekend:
anywhere
Left to my own accord, I will probably try to put together a trip to Lost Crag. Anyone is welcome to join of course.
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charley
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I should be there that wknd too.
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Hello all... Just returned from a great trip to Northern Utah. Climbed at the High Uintas. Awesome sport climbing at 10,500'. The mountains were beautiful with views of mountain lakes from above the cliffs. Temps in the high 60's and abundant sun made the climbing even better. We climbed about 30 different routes in 3 and a half days. Ranging from 5.6 to 5.11c definately woth a visit. l will post some pics tomorrow.
microbarn (or anyone) - A group of us are heading up to The Knobs Saturday or Sunday if you're interested in joining us pm me.
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charley
Sep 9, 2005, 4:12 PM
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No more climbing for me. I will not beclimbing for a month. I have tendonitis in my elbow and it is getting worse. To fix it will take a month of not climbing and antiinflammatories. This is one of my favorite months to climb, too. :cry:
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microbarn
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That is horrible! I hope you are better after a month. I have heard stories of needing more time. I am also glad you have the ability to make the decision to put yourself on the bench for a bit.
Dan
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Sorry, Charlie, but only the finest climbers can get tendenitis.
So in a sick way, rejoice!
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NEW CRAG... We've recently found a new 110' cliff band in SWPA that has huge potential for development. Looking for willing participants to help in the development of trails, etc... Going out Tuesday, anyone interested?
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Sep 14, 2005, 12:50 PM
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Sup all.... Thought I'd fill you in that Mountainman and I had a great day climbing at Breakneck yesterday. Mountainman fired up his first ever lead. The chosen route was Eclipse and was climbed in fine form. Congrats goes out to Mountainman for his accomplishment!!!
We're heading out tomorrow (Thursday) to climb locally again. Anyone interested should get in touch.
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charley
Sep 14, 2005, 4:22 PM
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Congrats MM.
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mountainman
Sep 14, 2005, 8:00 PM
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Aw shucks. Thanks, guys. I was way too excited.
PS: Thursday did some tasty climbs at the Lost Crag, humbling ET rather completely. A nice pair of gentlemen's glasses were found. Bifocals. We have them, if you are missing them.
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Sep 16, 2005, 1:43 PM
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In reply to: NEW CRAG... We've recently found a new 110' cliff band in SWPA that has huge potential for development. Looking for willing participants to help in the development of trails, etc... Going out Tuesday, anyone interested?
Check your pm's, just sent you one.
More than willing to help with trails and any other work that needs done. I know at least one other person that will help, too.
Greg
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Sep 16, 2005, 4:37 PM
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Climber's Mantra
May today there be peace within.
May you trust God that you are exactly where you are meant to be.
May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of faith.
May you use those gifts that you have received, and pass on the love that has been given to you.
May you be content knowing you are a child of God.
Let this presence settle into our bones, and allow your soul the freedom to sing, dance, praise and love.
It is there for each and every one of you
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microbarn
Sep 19, 2005, 3:00 PM
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I had a great weekend.
Went to Seneca for the first time. The two friends I came with had their first trad lead on saturday. Sunday, I was guided by Shingo to reinforce what knowledge I have. Made it to the top of the South peak and back down twice before noon. We ended the day with some ground schooling.
So, I hope to start leading old man's and other beginning trad routes in the future.
You guys have any suggestions for good beginning trad places to go? I heard one recommendation of going to Cumberland, MD. Other places to check out?
How were your weekends?
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NEW Breakneck route...
Breakneck rocks in Connellsville:
I cleaned and worked a new route at Breakneck this afternoon. I climbed it TR solo today and plan on putting bolts and shuts in tomorrow. Here is the description:
Elmo - 5.8 - 3 bolts, shuts Climb up edges to the large horizontal, move slightly left to gain access to the arete. Climb the face and arete to the shuts. 30'
The route is located to the right of the scramble (access to the top of the main cliff). or 15' left of Nemosis or the next route right of G.Y.B.
Definately a fun, new addition to Breakneck!
Enjoy
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mountainman
Sep 27, 2005, 10:05 PM
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Youze da MAN!
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tanderson
Sep 28, 2005, 10:00 PM
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Whats up group... Any enthusiastic climbers out there? Can't seem to find enough partners to keep me busy.... Looking for people that WANT to climb. Seems like climbers are a dying breed! I usually get out 1 day on the weekend and almost every day during the week. Any takers?
P.S. This is a climbing site isn't it?
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microbarn
Sep 29, 2005, 4:06 AM
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good news, My advisor is on sabatical. So, now....I can take off any time.
I can join you on a few nights a week. I still have to put in my hours, but I would be up for heading out on any random day.
Dan
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Hey all,
congrats to Dan on the seneca climb- nice job!
sounds like some great activity on the list- new routes, new crags. very exciting.
i just bought my first dynamic rope and I'm looking to lead some sport climbs in the 5.6 - 5.8 range- if anyone has ideas I'm all ears!
i'd love to get back down to summersville and try that small wall next to orange oswald (5.7's and 5.8's). i have mondays and fridays and some weekends off this fall....
i'll be at coll's cove tomorrow....
cheers,
victor
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charley
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Victor, There are some 5.5 and 5.6 bolted climbs at the beer wall, bubba city, nrg. There are also some 5.6 bolted at logtown quarry, lisbon ohio. Maybe we can get together this fall.
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microbarn
Oct 2, 2005, 3:16 PM
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I am heading to breakneck today. can't convince my friends that there are more than 2 places to climb in PA. I will have to convince them sometime to go find these other places. Glad to hear you are getting out for some leads and climbs, Victor. Hopefully we can meet up. I plan on heading to seneca this coming weekend.
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charley
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I so want to grab my pad and head to the mill. My elbow is feeling better. Still hurts a little when I do certain things. I must stay off the rock til sat. at the new. I knew this week would be the hardest. Have fun guys and girls.
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microbarn
Oct 3, 2005, 9:53 PM
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I am planning on heading to Seneca this weekend. I was wondering what anyone thought about this idea:
Lead up old man's and set up top ropes off the peak. These could of couse be moved when someone is coming up from below, but it would allow me to find an area with fewer crowds. Think anyone will get pissed off? Other suggestions for a beginning leader and 2 non-leaders?
Suggested routes to top rope???
Thanks,
Dan
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Dan,
you're probably already aware of this but my first thought to your question was to suggest that you head to the north peak, east side, where you can easily set up top-ropes, and do trad leads from 5.2 to 5.9-- all in the same area. it's a great little area for beginning leads and for folks who just want to TR.
victor
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charley
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You can set up some top ropes on the lower slabs also.
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I thank you for the suggestions. I have 3 reasons for my thoughts of leading old man's:
1. crowds at the two above mentioned places
2. I want to lead SOMETHING and old man's should be a good easy route for me to start with.
3. I could do one of the other options on the other day I am at seneca.
I mainly wanted to ensure that I wouldn't be breaking some secret code of proper conduct. I would be expecting people to come up from below, and I wouldn't want to have them overly bothered waiting a few seconds at a belay for us to move out of the way.
Do you feel that my efforts are overblown? Maybe I will check out those areas first. It is supposed to be a bit cooler this weekend.
Thanks for the info,
Dan
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Have you done Old Ladies Route (5.2)? if not, that might be fun. it was my first route to second, and the exposure is great. the traverse at the start of the second pitch is interesting, too. victor
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no, I will keep that in mind. I also think Skyline traverse is a possibility.
Thanks,
Dan
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Dan, there is a 5.2 way to the right of humphries head. It takes you to shuts on the top where you can set up a tr that has 5.2 - 5.6 on the one rope. Lead the two and tr the 4&6 out front. Have fun.
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microbarn
Oct 10, 2005, 2:55 PM
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After all that planning, I canceled the trip to Seneca. Too much rain. Ended up going to Coopers for bouldering. I had a fun time with that. Anyone interested in going local next weekend?
Dan
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Oct 10, 2005, 3:43 PM
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Bummer, dude.:(
Drove to the Red River Gorge in dear ol Kentucky trying to avoid the rain. Got to know the area, had a sweet hike (100 natural rock arches) and got in 8 pitches. Awesome place.
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In reply to: After all that planning, I canceled the trip to Seneca. Too much rain. Ended up going to Coopers for bouldering. I had a fun time with that. Anyone interested in going local next weekend? Dan
By way of introduction:
My name is Matt, I'm 23 years old, and I'm back to Pittsburgh and rock climbing after some time away from both. I've been bouldering a lot at TCW, but I'd love to meet some people and get on the rock outside. I can follow easy routes and I'll try anything on toprope. I'm free just about all the time while I look for a job. My goal is to start leading trad by next summer.
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microbarn
Oct 12, 2005, 11:35 AM
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I look forward to seeing you in person. How about you give me a call to work out the details? My phone number is below. I split it up so that I don't get calls from telemarketers.
412 then 736 finishing with 2939
Dan
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Hope you're having fun in pa. I am having a great time climbing looking glass in nc. The nrg was cool on the way down, too.
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hey bill, glad to hear you're enjoying NC-- tell annie and troy i said "hi" and that i really enjoyed meeting them!
tell judy that my kids loved the "pink fluff"!
looks like i might be heading down to the NRG again this weekend...
cheers,
victor
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I might be stopping at the new on my way home. Who knows.
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Yes Dan. My name is bill. My middle name is Charles. I'm not real creative when it comes to user names.
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hmmm, he keeps calling you Bill, but your screen name is charley. Is there a reason for this?
Kind of threw me off for a bit.
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IMWTK
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huh?
IMWTK???
What does that mean?
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i'm going to start calling you microbarn or some variation in real life now.... "hey Micro, nice send!"
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good point. I have an unrelated name too.
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Going climbing at Breakneck this afternoon/evening.... anyone interested in going out later today. Get in touch!
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Going climbing at Breakneck this afternoon/evening.... Meeting there around 4:00. Anyone is welcome to come along. If you're interested get in touch!
Tim
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Judas
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Hey, I recently (~2 months ago) moved to Pittsburgh from Boston to go to CMU. I've been to Coopers and McConnells with the CMU club, but they do not go out especially often. I don't have a car so I can't really go take myself climbing. If any of you live in Pittsburgh and wouldn't mind taking the new guy in town out to show hiim the local (or not so local) climbing I would appreciate it a lot. Thanks.
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sorry, I already have a trip planned this weekend. We will have to catch up this coming week. I would invite you on this trip, but we leave in 4 hours and we have a full car on the return trip.
Maybe you can come by Scaife B11 sometime and say "Hi."
Dan
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Welcome to town, and best of luck with everything.
I can't help thinking that "superfox" would be better reserved for a super fox. Just a thought.
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In reply to: Welcome to town, and best of luck with everything. I can't help thinking that "superfox" would be better reserved for a super fox. Just a thought.
Ha. The same comment was made when I introduced myself to the Mass Climbers thread....Long story short it was a screen name I picked in fifth grade when I didn't know that "fox" meant anything other than a four legged animal and my last name.
microbarn...you work at CMU? That's awesome...its so good to find more climbers who go and work here.
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Oct 16, 2005, 7:15 PM
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In reply to: i'm going to start calling you microbarn or some variation in real life now.... "hey Micro, nice send!"
Hey Barn, Pass me a beer. :lol:
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microbarn
Oct 17, 2005, 2:44 AM
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I am a grad student at CMU. So, I work in my lab all the time.
It was nice to meet you and your wife, Bill. Also, we were able to hang out with Victor, Brian, Matt, and Steve.
Fun weekend at NRG. Hope Seneca is as fun next weekend.
Victor, I need to return your tent to you. When will you be at the wall next? I can come drop it off if you need.
Dan
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Oct 17, 2005, 12:05 PM
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I'll be at the Wall tonight from about 5'ish to 7'ish...
It was a great weekend at the Gorge-- perfect weather, perfect friction, and the chance to watch people jump off a perfectly good bridge.
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charley
Oct 20, 2005, 9:45 PM
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With this crappy weather forcast, is anyone going to seneca or nrg? Who is goingf to challenge the weatherman. I haven't decided yet.
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well, heck, as we found out a couple weeks ago, even if it's raining in the gorge there's still a good chance the rock will be dry.... not sure you can say the same thing for seneca...
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microbarn
Oct 21, 2005, 2:48 AM
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well, I have heard that there will be chilli. I think I would still like to go. Probably drive down on Saturday though.
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I had to go straight to the mill and boulder for an hour and a half, until the rain started, so I could get some climbing in this wknd. I'm not too sure about $60. to drive to seneca to party in the rain and maybe get to climb alittle on sunday. The weather doesn't look good for most of the east coast. Maybe I'll fish.
EMS is having a 20% off everything sale this wknd. Check it out online at ems.com
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i hear ya.... think i'll be at the climbing wall tomorrow....
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microbarn
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as we got closer the rain prediction got worse. So, I called it off. I am planning on going to the mill tomorrow afternoon.
I have a friend that wants to practice rapping. So, we are going to set up a couple of climbs and raps.
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Oct 23, 2005, 10:28 PM
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Dan, didn't see you at the mill. It was ok for bouldering and some ofthe climbs were dry enough. Anyone going to seneca next weekend?
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I am sorry that things fell through and we missed each other Bill.
Shingo called me as we were still getting ourselves organized for heading out to climb. Said he wanted to go to seneca. So, that threw off my plans for the mill. I am sorry to hear that you tried to catch us at the mill. This was one of those times that I had a leader and thought I should take advantage of the experience.
Maybe we can meet up on a sunny day this week.
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Oct 25, 2005, 12:31 PM
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I just went to the mill to boulder and maybe put up a rope. I thought I might see you there. If you went to seneca I don't blame you. I couldn't see $60. worth of gas for one day climbing. If you want to go to seneca sometime give me a holler. I can lead easy and if I remember right, you are starting to lead easytrad. The weather forcast for this coming wknd was nice but is now rain. I'll check later in the week, it will change, it will be wrong. I didn't go this wknd because of the rain and it didn't rain. There are no dry days in nwpa. this week and maybe not next. :cry:
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microbarn
Oct 25, 2005, 3:04 PM
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I will be taking you up on that offer. I am indeed a new trad leader, and the more leading and following I can do the better.
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I had a good day toproping at panther rocks up above oil city. I'm sore sore sore. Going to the mill tomorrow.
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Oct 30, 2005, 3:29 AM
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I won't be there, but I believe Steve (who you met the same night we met) will be there about 1. He has dark close cut hair and is missing a lot of it. Hopefully you guys can meet up again. I think Matt (cortizone) is also trying to meet up with them, but I am out of the loop since I am not going.
Have a good one,
Dan
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Oct 31, 2005, 12:47 AM
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I saw Matt and Steve as well as many others at the mill today. They were having a good day. I had a fun day even though the rock kicked my butt. It was a beautiful day, cold in the hole. The mill was a friggin zoo. Many climbers and scads of leaf peepers walking all over the place.
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Anybody going out this weekend? The weather should be beautiful!
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microbarn
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good question.
I am going to be attending some swing dancing events throughout the weekend. http://www.pittstoplindyhop.com
However, I still want to make it out on Sunday. Anyone up for going out then? Bill, would you want to show a few people Logtown, OH, or meet us there?
Dan
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In reply to: Anybody going out this weekend? The weather should be beautiful!
I'm going to be at the New, camping at Chestnut. PM me if you'd like my cell-phone number.
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Nov 3, 2005, 8:30 PM
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Jim,
Did climbing with John Fitzgerald not work out? Is Evan going down to the New with you? Anyone else?
Dan
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Any body still top rope? All i ever hear is bout you guys leading. Sorry not on that level yet. Looking to do some climbin this weekend either at 90ft or trying to find breakneck. I can find that little parking area and dirt road, but no rocks. I got all my gear to top rope just need partners. Have a good one.
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The nice thing about (most) leading is that once a route is led, it's easy to set up a top-rope for the other climbers. If your partners are willing to do this, not leading shouldn't stop you from going on some cool trips.
Anyway, I'm down for 90' this weekend, preferably on Saturday. I grew up in Greensburg but never got a chance to check that place out. I'll PM you my contact info to work out the details.
Jim, I can't hit the New this weekend due to plans tomorrow. Are you still going to Seneca next weekend?
- Matt
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i'm jealous! i'm heading to new orleans to attend a friend's wedding this weekend, but if the weather holds i'll definitely be up for a trip to the New the following weekend (or something local if that's the case).
climb safe, climb hard!
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In reply to: Any body still top rope? All i ever hear is bout you guys leading. Sorry not on that level yet. Looking to do some climbin this weekend either at 90ft or trying to find breakneck. I can find that little parking area and dirt road, but no rocks. I got all my gear to top rope just need partners. Have a good one. All the Dude ever wanted was his rug back!
Breakneck is easy to find, but you can't see the rocks until you're right there. Have you checked the map on Tim Anderson's site? Visit http://www.climbpa.telerama.com/breakneckmap.html. There is the larger parking lot area on the right, and a slight pull-out further down. The map shows the pull-out.
As the map shows, cross the stream and follow the obvious trail for about 5 minutes. The cut up to the rocks is less obvious than it used to be, but look for a small cairn on your right. (If you walk for longer than 8 - 10 minutes, you're probably past it.) The trail heads uphill, becoming more obvious as you go. It cuts to the right between boulders, and you can scramble up between them to get to the left side of the main wall. It's easy to set topropes on most of the routes along the main wall. Bring a little extra webbing for Bio-Fear (the far right climb). There is only one anchor point at the top, but you can sling the large boulder nearby.
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Nov 4, 2005, 4:03 PM
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Matt had a good point about a TR being set up after the climb is led. You should be more eager to go with leaders. That being said. I am planning on doing TR on Sunday. I haven't picked out a place. I don't know where 90' is. I was thinking logtown would be a fun place to find. Either way, we should be able to work something out.
Side note on Breakneck, I have heard that the locals don't appreciate when we use the closer parking lot. So, please park farther down the road. There is a place where several (sometimes broken down) cars park back down the road about 60 yards.
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Matt and Victor,
Brian K and I are helping out with the ECP mountaineering skool next Friday during the day, and then heading over to Seneca sometime Saturday.
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If I recall correctly, 90' Rocks is way outside of the city, in or around Rector. Turnpike to Irwin and head east, past Jeannette, past Greensburg, past Latrobe, past Ligonier. I've never seen a guide, and I don't know the quality of the climbs, so it's probably not worthwhile unless you're in the neighborhood anyway. I'm just curious, so I'd like to check it out.
That reminds me though, to bigfoot15642: If you'd prefer Breakneck, I'd be down for that as well. The climbs are probably a lot better for not much more driving. I assume you've been to 90' before though, so you probably know what to expect.
Anyone else interested in meeting on Saturday?
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is 90' rocks also called High Rocks?
I have heard that is a couple of people's favorite TR destination (High Rocks that is).
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Nov 4, 2005, 5:02 PM
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To the best of my knowledge, no. High Rocks refers to Derry High Rocks, which if I'm not mistaken, is named after Derry High School which is nearby? I always assumed that, anyway. In any case, the two areas are fairly close to each other. You just turn off Route 30 a bit sooner for High Rocks.
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Yeah 90ft is in lynn run. Across from the water spicket park by the fence, cross over the crick (watch trying to cross the log its not too sturdy). It is actually Mellon land, you'll see no hunting signs, but not too many people go up there so youll be good. Look a little to your left on the hill and it will look like stairs going straight up. Keep taking that to the top until you see all the boulders and go up around to the right to set up. Theres two spots to top rope and theres a rock infront of the main wall that is good for solo. There are a bunch of rattle snakes up there, the den is over to the left side of the main wall. Yo Dan, no disrespect to leaders at all, I would always be down for going with leaders but I'm still kinda a newbee, so I would want to hold any body back. Heck I felt out of my league that day climbing with you at krahlick, when you landed your car against the tree. As far as i know Derry High rocks is still closed, they dont appreciatte people up there. Thanks for the info on breakneck.
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microbarn
Nov 4, 2005, 9:29 PM
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sorry, but what is your real name? I don't remember who I went to krahlick with. I have been several times and they were all a while ago, and I don't remember landing my car in a tree. Though, I do remember having quite the time getting that car out of the bad gravel roads. :D
also, thanks for the info on 90' and high rocks
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I am going to lisbon sat. soon. If you want to go on sun and it is nice pm me your number, Dan. The weather is calling for rain.
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How's that tendonitis?
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Tendonitis not better but climbing will end around here soon. It can get better in dec.
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What a bold, spirited flight of speech!
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You should have come over today. Was it a soccer day. It was a very nice fall day, about 70 degrees. Greg, Anne,Liz and Bob, Christy, Bob D, Hank, and John made it a good crew.
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That was a good crew, too bad I wasn't invited. How humiliating!
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Don't feel so sad, MM. Nobody talks to me anymore.
My knee injury hasn't healed so well, so maybe next year.
Anyway, I'm happy that the forum is doing so well. My one sweet time in the light!
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In reply to: That was a good crew, too bad I wasn't invited. How humiliating!
You don't need a written invite do ya. I didn't know for sure til last nite I was going. You're always welcome where I'm going. I see the vixen is on line, maybe she will bless us with her presence in here.
Hi Vixen. Busy life, eh.
Looks like I missed her.
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yea, with 50% rain, I am thinking that I am canceling tomorrow. Good to see that vixen is checking back in. I am sorry to hear that your knee isn't doing so great.
Probably be in at the wall tomorrow for anybody wanting to join.
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Trip report.
Adam (bigfoot) and I had a fun trip to Breakneck today. With such nice weather and a short approach, I was amazed that no one else was there when we arrived, and we only saw one other party all day.
We spent about an hour wandering in the woods on the wrong side of the road, trying to find the rocks. But hey, that's good exercise and now we know where to go. I kind of hate to do this because Tim has obviously put so much effort into his site (and that's probably a pretty uncommon mistake anyway), but might I suggest a small arrow on the map to indicate which direction you're coming from? I think that could help the poor fools like us. I do have to thank you for all the work you've done on the site and at Breakneck itself. I'm not leading sport yet, but the anchors make it a hell of a lot easier to set up top-ropes.
After getting directions from a friendly local, we found the crag and threw ropes on Eclipse and Mosquito/Variation. Eclipse is a great route that I'll certainly do again next time I'm out there. Dan, I see what you and Steve meant about it being a "mirror image" of that climb at the New. (I don't remember the name, it was the first one we did at Beer Wall.) Mosquito had a rough start, and I had to cheat using a nearby boulder. Fortunately, the reward for my indiscretion consisted of some great thin face moves on highly frictiony stone. Felt very hard, but doable: Another A+ route.
For the next trip, I'd love to try the two routes on the detached boulder. Does anyone know if there's any reasonably safe way to solo it and set up top-ropes? Also, does anyone know what happened to the anchors at Nemesis and Bio-Fear? It looks like the hangers and shuts got chopped.
Chance of precip for tomorrow is at 60% and climbing. (No pun intended!) I was thinking of going out again, but with odds like that it's not really worth the risk. If the weather gets better and anyone wants to go climbing during the week, please let me know.
- Matt
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Glad you had a good time.
I don't think there is a way to solo the detached boulder. Also, I think there was only one anchor at the top of those routes. So, there isn't any good way to top rope. My friends say there is no way to set up an extra piece to back it up either. I haven't been to the top of those boulders in 10 months though. So, something may have changed.
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Anyone want to meet this coming weekend at the new river gorge. How bout the mill or lisbon tomorrow the 7'th. Anyone.
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Weather looks good for tomorrow -- what time would you want to hit the Mill?
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How's 10.
I could go anytime.
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Let's meet at 11 at the Rim Road descent (near Sunshine Wall where we ran into each other last week). I'll check this in the morning to verify that you'll be there. Do you have everything we'll need to set up ropes? I'd like to build my rack out, but I'm not there yet. I'm PMing you with my contact info. See you tomorrow.
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I will see you at 11. I have everything needed.
Mountainman, If you're not busy, come on up.
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I didn't have enough time to change my plans. Hope you guys have fun today. I am buying my rack today. So, that will be fun too.
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I already have the three smallest tricams and an old .75 camelot. Am I missing anything else to finish off some leads at Seneca?
I plan on being down at Seneca this coming weekend. However, I doubt this stuff will arrive by then. I guess one more weekend of borrowing.
Dan
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Went to breakneck with Matt Saturday, great time, good weather. Tim Anderson needs a medal, that dude is the man! The anchors and bolts he put in were so much help. Dan, my real name is Adam by the way. I went out krahlick with you will be 2 years this march, cold as an old witches you know. YOu tried getting up the hill in the subaru 4 times till we got out, and landed back sideways into the tree at the bottom one time. No real damage to the ride, just scared the heck out of me. I may have the wrong Dan, if so sorry. Anyway, just wanted to say how much I appreciatte the hard work that Tim put into out there! Anybody looking to do some climbing tomorrow morning(tues) or Friday out breakneck. They're calling for rain the rest of the week I heard. Later
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Hey Adam,
I am not sure you have the right Dan. I drive a Toyota Prius. (a hybrid) Also, I have not yet climbed for a complete 2 years. We will have to make up for it and climb together sometime soon.
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Sorry bout that Dan. Yeah I met a dan on here, figured it was you cause i read you're learning lead from Shingo. The dan i climbed with used to buy all his gear off fred and shingo too, small world i guess. Yeah some time you are heading out breakneck let me know, id be willing to belay while you lead. Sorry bout the mixup. Have a good one.
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Matt and I had a great day. Perfect weather, for me anyhow. I like it a bit cool. About 54 most oftheday. We started on a 8 that some days I can do, today was not one of those days(5 fingers) . Matt did the route and tried some harder variations. We then moved the rope to step across, a nice interesting 5.6 that starts out pulling a nice overhang. Matt did a harder variation, too.
We then went back up to 5,8 but I don't know the name. It may be unnamed, there are a lot of those at the mill. I got almost up it but came off where I usually do. Matt did this clean and also the harder variation. We then set up theeasy 5.5 and Matt again did the regular route and the harder variation. I gotta stop climbing with these kids and find some old men to climb with. :lol: We had a great day. The sun was setting as I drove north and I even have the meatloaf in the oven before my wife gets home from work. Nice climbing with you, Matt.
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Don't listen to Bill -- he isn't half as old or slow as he wants you to think. (Well, he is as old as my dad, but Bill sure climbs a lot harder!)
I was once again surprised to see only one other party all day long. We had our choice of routes and we got some fun ones in. I especially enjoyed Five Fingers Arete, as well as the swings that ensued when I tried the harder climb to its right. Bill did a damn fine job on Step Across despite claiming he can't make the first move. I even got to practice a few rappels.
All in all, it was truly an excellent day. Thanks Bill and let's do it again soon.
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i would like to get out to breakneck or lost crag on friday (supposed to be 51 and sunny as of wed). i live in the city an am willing to drive. let me know.
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Victor, mountainman, vixen, anyone else interested. Some of us are going to nrg this weekend. Will be at chestnut campground fri. nite. Weather looks good. It will be snowing soon.
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Nov 10, 2005, 4:54 AM
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I am looking for people to climb with this weekend at the New (trad, sport or both).
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charley
Nov 10, 2005, 11:46 AM
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We will be staying at chestnut. Look us up.
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pasha
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Could you give me some identifying info (e.g. yellow Hummer, small panda chained outside the tent, etc?)
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Bill resembles Jabba the Hutt, with Princess Leia in a skimpy bikini chained to his tent post. Man, does that cat know how to live!
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Anybody want to climb dunbar area tomorrow? I sport climb 10's and easy 11's. I will drive.
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In reply to: Anybody want to climb dunbar area tomorrow? I sport climb 10's and easy 11's. I will drive. |
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charley
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Pasha, look at my profile for name and looks. The beard is white. I drive a lite blue chysler minivan 05. I sleep in my van. We have met before including at the base off old mans early this year, like june. I got an ant in my ear and used tea to flush it out cause we were out of water. You were belaying your friend up the 1st pitch. There should be folks with me in a red jeep.
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In reply to: I got an ant in my ear and used tea to flush it out cause we were out of water.
wow, that is crazy!
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I told you, Jabba really knows how to live!
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In reply to: I would go, but I'll be climbing Saturday and Sunday and I don't like to climb three days in a row.
I can see me saying this, but a TWENTY THREE year old. :lol: :lol:
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Oh man, did I just get pwned or what?
Fine... I'll go to Breakneck tomorrow, but I have to be back by 4. I want to take a shot at Eclipse anyway.
Buckleki, you have another PM.
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charley
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Have fun at seneca. I'll be looking for someone to climb with maybe at pilot next fri or sat and nrg sat or sunday. I'm leaving after work tomorrow and climbing all I can til I have to be back at work 11/21.
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I don't know where pilot is. I will try to settle my plans to join you at nrg. Currently, the only thing I know is that I will be getting back in town on Friday Night.
Dan
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In reply to: I don't know where pilot is. I will try to settle my plans to join you at nrg. Currently, the only thing I know is that I will be getting back in town on Friday Night. Dan |
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Sorry, I didn't explain myself very clearly before. I understood it was next weekend. However, I will be in the flatlands of Minnesota Wed-Friday night of this coming week. So, I will be returning to the airport on Friday night. I don't know if I will have to make up time with my girlfriend or if I can skip out and head straight to climbing.
My GF has had a horrible schedule this semester, and she has also been forced to miss a lot of climbing because of it. So, sometimes I stay back and have shorter day trips with her.
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Nov 11, 2005, 1:08 PM
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Minnesota in November? Maybe get in some cross country skiing. Excellent cross training, aerobically speaking.
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Seneca trip report:
Totally overrated.
More to come, in the morning.
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Well, I thought the disco tec on pitch 2 of Old Lady's was redeeming.
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Nov 14, 2005, 4:30 PM
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I snagged two biners off the 2nd rap station after traffic jam. PM me with the make/model/serial numbers if you'd like 'em back. Also, if anyone can free the #4 ABC nut just to the right of the belay at the end of the traverse on the 2nd pitch of Old Ladies I....I mean microbarn....would appreciate it.
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pasha
Nov 16, 2005, 3:02 PM
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So, how was Seneca?
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So, how was Seneca?
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charley
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Dan, I'm back in pa. It is going to be quite cold at the nrg this weekend. I might as well climb local. It was 40 in nc. the other afternoon.
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What are everyone's plans for the weekend? The forecast looks pretty good, high around 50 both days, 10% chance of rain on Sunday.
I think I'll be hitting the Wall tonight (first time in two weeks!) and hopefully somewhere outside on Sunday. Anyone up for the Mill?
I swear there's a trip report coming up.
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Nov 18, 2005, 10:58 PM
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If ya can't see me.... I'm doin' the ice dance!!!!
The sikest drip around "The Beast" is going down this season!
stay posted...More to come!
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I know mountainman is with me!
We must find the Evil One!
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I put my phone number in my profile. So, if you want to go climbing, give me a call.
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charley
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I spent the afternoon at the mill again tday. Cause it might be the last one for awhile. In the last week I have been 2 days nrg, 2 days moores wall nc., 2 days pilot mnt. nc, 1restday, then 2days at the mill. Back to work tomorrow. :cry:
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Ended up going to breakneck on Sunday. It was a pretty cold day. I was psyched when I started the day, but I got cooled off. I sent my first 11 on toprope. Took a hang or two, but I made sure to do all the moves. I will have to send it clean next trip. I think the route was bowling ball.
I am sad to say that someone isn't liking the bolts. There is a 7 with no bolts at the top, the 8 has no bolts on top any more, and the 7 in the middle only had one bolt. I can't think of any reason why people would do that. All of Tim's work is just getting messed up.
I won't be around this T-giving. I hope all of you have fun vacations. I still want to get out in the coming weekends. Let's hope for some warmth.
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Logtown quarry in Lisbon, Ohio (75 min from pburgh) is south facing rock. Anyone up for some climbing this weekend. The day that looks best keeps changing. 52 and 56 for highs in nrg this weekend. Cold nite. Any interest?
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Wow,
I'm so excited about this Western PA climbers forum. I moved back to Erie from Missoula, MT when I finished school in May and I'm dying to find other climbers and get outside (or at least inside until the snow melts). I've climbed at McConnells Mills a few times. I'm trying to start an Erie Adventure Club and get a group of people to the Cleveland Rock gym to learn how to belay, but I'd love to climb with some people who know what they are doing too. If anyone is in the Erie area, please get in touch with me and I'll keep watching this forum to see what's goin on. Rock on!
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Nov 27, 2005, 10:24 PM
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hello hangin_tough,
Unfortunately, it seems as though much of this thread is Pittsburgh centralized. I would certainly be willing to meet you, but it is not often I go as far as Erie for anything. If I am driving that far, then I will be going to west virginia. I can meet you at the mill or lisbon sometime though.
Dan
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Nov 27, 2005, 10:39 PM
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Ya'll missed a great day at lisbon. Of all the ppl I sent emails to only Dave replied. We spent the day toproping at logtown. A cpl damp spots but we had a great day. I'm tired, have to go to work tmrrw to rest up. :lol:
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Nov 28, 2005, 10:37 PM
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Hi Dan,
Well, there really isn't much to climb in the Erie area. I have to drive no matter what. The closest to me is probably Rim Rock in Kinzua. I'd love to meet up at McConnell's Mills some time. I haven't done a lot of climbing this time of year, although today was gorgeous--or so it looked from my office window! Let me know when you're headin that way.
-Kate
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In reply to: Hi Dan, Well, there really isn't much to climb in the Erie area. I have to drive no matter what. The closest to me is probably Rim Rock in Kinzua. I'd love to meet up at McConnell's Mills some time. I haven't done a lot of climbing this time of year, although today was gorgeous--or so it looked from my office window! Let me know when you're headin that way. -Kate
Where were you sunday? Dave and I had a great time at lisbon. Erie is only an hour or so from my place. What'shername theresa is from meadeville.
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Hey Charley, Guess I missed out. Definitely let me know the next time you go--if we have some decent weather again. I know it isn't the same, but I'm trying to plan a trip to Cleveland rock gym soon for some folks I want to get interested in climbing! I gotta go soon, my fingers are getting soft!
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Is anyone interested in trying lisbon this weekend? The weather seems same for both days. Some sun 35/25 temps. I can prolly go either day? What's your preference?
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At this point, I am aiming for going out on Sunday. Lisbon would be great.
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I am doing the bouldering competition on Saturday at the Wall. Not sure how that will go, but I figured it was worth a shot.
I'm in for Lisbon on Sunday. Holy cow, high of 36? I'll just have to dress warm.
Edit: I just checked the forecast for Lisbon. High of 34. Awesome.
Bill, are you jb4-----@hotmail.com? I think I'm on your email list by a strange coincidence.
Edit 2: Sweet! Easy bolted routes!
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charley
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yes I amm. yes you are.
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charley
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Dan and Matt check your pm's. Dress in layers, bring hat, bring chemical handwarmer if they get cold. A thermos of coffee or tea helps too. The approach is short.
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Despite the weather, I am looking forward to the trip.
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I shall watch the weather. If they get the snow, sleet, and freezing rain the rock will suck. Just some overnight snow and things might be doable. I can bring aiders and you can trad lead/ aid a cpl easy routes. We shall see.
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I have never aided anything. That could be fun. See you there.
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I installed Intuition liners in my Scarpa Denalis today. Mega sweet. Finally extended my Rambo monocomps to fit my boots.
I've got ice fever bad.
Two weeks to Smuggler's. Wow! 10 days after that, the Daks.
Life is good.
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Another super sucky day at work. It is 3:35 and I just got home from work after being called out at 8 this morning. I backed the truck out into a moving mini van. We spent the afternoon fixing the truck up well enough to work. There is a spreader in the back and it took a good whack. Dan, if you went to lisbon let me know how it went. The steelers are loosing at this point.
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followed your suit and canceled climbing. Even if it was warm, the snow would have kept the rock wet. Went to climb in at the wall. It turned out to be pretty good day despite not getting out.
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If anyone knows of climbable ice, PM me. Keep it under your hats.
Ice Climbin fever
Gave it to the kitty next door
Ice Climbin fever
Like to give a little more
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i'm visiting pa for christmas week, staying in the kennet square area, i know nothing about pa (visiting boyfriend's fam) and was wondering if that is all near you and if so, if you are up for heading out the tuesday after christmas? i lead moderate trad, climb 11a/b trad, and 10 sport... pm me if that is at all close and you are interested!
:) amy
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microbarn
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You should get your BF to belay. :)
I will be in Texas over the break climbing. If you come another time, I would join you. I hope you find a partner.
Dan
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Also, I wish you luck with the weather. It might be a bit nippy. It is only about 35 as a high today.
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bf climbs also... where is there to go around there? a place i can boulder? he needs family time, and i'm sure i'll need a break from them... any ideas?
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Amy, the kennart square I found is in the eastern part of the state near md and de. If thats not so let me know. bouldering is prolly thebest you can do this time of the year.
It is sposed to be 40' high in lisbon next sat. Anyone interested in climbing or at least trying.
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Went to shoot some sporting clays today. Fun time despite having a hard time seeing the birds.
Amy, I looked up and found you will be on the other side of the state too. Let us know if you find otherwise.
I think I would like to go climbing this coming weekend, but I am not hopeful. We have had some bad weather lately.
Dan
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will you be in eastern pa the week after christmas? that is when i am looking to climb...
:) amy
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Amy, I'd suggest posting to the PA Climbers thread, as well. IIRC, the Western PA Climbers Forum started because the PA Climbers thread was very eastern-oriented. It looks like charley put in a plug for you, but it can't hurt to introduce yourself. Good luck finding a partner.
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I went to the mill today. It was 28 degrees. The rock was cold. Ross boulder is snow covered. Any rock that was close to level had snow on it. The whole sunshine wall was snow covered. I did some traversing in the canyon on the upper side of island block. A large area is overhung enough to stay clear of snow. The bottom of peter pan was clear also. By the time I got to h&r block my shoes had gotten damp and slipped a cpl times so I backed off. I had a fun time. :D
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I am in Texas at my GF's house. We will go climbing somewhere today and Friday. I am hoping for Enchanted Rock both days. Though, local Austin Rock areas are possibilities. It is 62 degrees and dry. Perfect weather!
I will be back in cold weather starting next week. Hopefully, I can still go somewhere in Western MD this coming week. I really enjoy going to new and different areas.
I hope despite the weather that all of you are still having fun.
Dan
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Dan, I went to reimers ranch last year and had a good time. Reimers has alot of one pitch sport as easy as 5.5 and the access is fairly easy. I heard it was sold to the county and climbing was still going to be ok. Let me know what you hear. Er is more trad climbing . Have fun and enjoy the weather. When do you get back?
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Reimer's Ranch is still open to climbing, but it is a slightly longer drive from here. I found 2 guidebooks to it. I will be going there when I have more time overall. All to often, I am having to do what others are planning for me. This perfect weather and lack of other activities is driving me crazy.
I will get back in pgh around Jan 5, but I will be in TX only until Monday. I didn't make it out yesterday. I am still hoping for ER today and tomorrow and RR on Saturday.
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I was at the mill three out of the last six days. The weather was lousy every other day but I was on the rock the other days. Today the sun was even out. I saw my shadow on the rock!! I have been bouldering on the uphill side of island block. In addition to the traverseing the're are at least three overhangs. The easiest is 5.4 and the hardest is the 5.10 start for step across. Ross was still damp just after noon but climable. Most routes are too wet yet for a rope. It felt goooood to be down there all alone starting the year out with some climbing. Take care and cya all when it gets nicer.
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Hey all. Anyone up for tryin to get out tommorrow Wed or Thurs? They're calling for cloudy and 47, not too incredibly bad! I got two days off from work and looking to at least get out and do even one or two routes. Whatever, I'm not picky. If anybody's down give me a call 724-799-5396. Thanks. Adam
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microbarn
Jan 4, 2006, 3:44 PM
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I made it to enchanted rocks twice before christmas. I had a lot of fun teaching my girlfriends about placements. I also did a little ( :) ) bit of climbing. The weather was perfect. The day we left texas the temperature hit 86. Anyways, enough about the great weather that isn't here.
I can't go out today. I see the forecast says 50% chance of snow tomorrow. If things look better I might call. Otherwise, I hope you have fun.
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In reply to: I had a lot of fun teaching my girlfriends about placements.
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microbarn
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sorry, only one girlfriend. I will work on that one.
Tomorrow looks bad for climbing. :( We will have to see if we can't go another time. Did you make it out today?
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Yeah, I end up making it out for a bit on Wed. I tried going to beams to boulder but the road up the park but it was too icy, so figured go up 30 past ski resort. Easy? Nah, i get the whole way back up the mountain and after I get past the ski resort; no path; nothing, just all of sudden ice. Sweet. So I bouldered up on 130 past lycypuss. The two bigger rocks were too wet, but a nice little 11 foot boulder with lots of nice grips and a little over hang was dry enough. The sun was shining not too cold, good times. They're calling for half way decent weather next week in upper 40s at least. Any body down for Sunday maybe, if weather agrees. Thinking Break neck early morning: Steelers play at 430. Have a good one.
All the Dude ever wanted was his rug back. Jeffry Lebowski
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high 40's would be good for me. Hope it is dry.
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hey ppl long time no see how has everyone been doing. I cant wait till this snow melts or i get off of probation and move someplace warmer. How many ppl on here participate in another extreme sport? just wandering cause I am looking in to some others and would like to talk to ppl about them before I shell out the cash for equipment.
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I am lame myself. Climbing is the only extreme sport I do. What extreme sports are you looking into?
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Anyone interested in some bouldering at the mill tomrrw? When it warms up, like 35 - 40, in the winter, can you climb tr routes at lost crag or krahlic? Most of the time you can only boulder because the routes will have snow or wetness on them at the mill. Of course some or most of my bouldering is the bottom of routes.
Anyone interested in a brand new wired #6 hex. I bought the wrong size and now I have 2. By the time I pay shipping to exchage it, I might as well sell it. If you are interested pm me.
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microbarn
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I just decided to go to Lisbon with my friends. We are going to meet at 10 AM. Will you be able to join us? I hope to see some of you there.
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That is to say, meeting at 10am in Pittsburgh. According to Google, that puts us in Lisbon around 11:30.
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I might try that.
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Howdy all. Hows it hanging? Krahlic is probably way too icy to even get back to still. Never been to Lost Crag. Break Neck should be good though for some top roping! Any one down? Steelers start winning at 430! So have to get out early enough to get back for drinking(game) time. I got rope and everything, just need two quick draws, not real good natural anchors but Tim set up some good bolts! Thanks Tim! If anyone is interested give me a call 724-799-5396. Have a good One. Goooo Steeelers!
Dude your phone's ringing.
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I'll see you at Lisbon.
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Well I am looking at Surfing, Whitewater kayaking, and SkyDiving. I already ride BMX and Skateboard. I have Tryed snow boarding but its to damn cold for me lol. I am looking at moving, I have a few friends from dogtown and have been thinkin bout moving in with them(150 a month with 6 ppl) but not sure what would be best to invest my cash in.
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Those are some adrenline heavy hobbies.
Bill, we missed you at Logtown. Matt bumped someone with his car, and then I missed a turn. So, we arrived at about 12:15. Hopefully you hadn't gotten tired of waiting and left. We had a lot of fun. I am looking forward to going back several times.
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Hell Yeah I figure thats the only way to be bro. Problem is there nothing were I live but some bouldering and some pavment for skating.
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was anyone else at Seneca this Thursday? The weather was absolutely beautiful, couldn't have wished for anything better. Here's a picture of some intrepid climbers mounting a late descent down Traffic Jam.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=67679
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I go to school in Grove City...Ive heard McConnell's Mill is amazing. So if you're still looking for someone to climb with- I'm in. (maybe when it's not still snowing) I haven't climbed in W. PA yet- just moved here from Southwest CO for school.
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In reply to: Ive heard McConnell's Mill is amazing.
I like going there only because it is very close by. There is a good number of climbs and a ton of boulders. I find the area is slow to dry out. I understand Bill (log in name charley) lives close by. He seems to go often.
I would be willing to go if we find there is a warm day one weekend this winter. I look forward to meeting you.
Dan
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...are there warm weekends in winter in western pa? (sorry for the alliteration) I'd love to go if such a day comes around. thanks for replying and filling me in. Do you know if the wall at Slippery Rock is any good? I've seen pictures, but haven't gotten a chance to climb there yet. I have a feeling it's going to be awhile before climbing outside becomes an option.
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Harky, the mill beats nothing. I have seen ppl travel from new york, co., and scotland to climb there. I think they were stopping on the way by. As far as warm weather in winter, were you sleeping all day last friday when it went up to 65'. It was also nice and climbable sunday. Read a few of my posts in here. you could have climbed every week except dec. and maybe some of that. I climb there when it is 30'.
I climbed outdoors 17 straight months once.
Sru has a nice wall. It is 42' and is fibreglas that looks like rock so you can climb alot and not be on holds bolted on. It is also only $5/person/day and includes pool, shower, bball courts, weights, many machines, and cardio apparatus.
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If the weather guy is right, sunday is to be 37 and cloudy following a 28' nite and a rainy day. You should be able to boulder. I can show you what is there and we can get some bouldering in and still make the steeler game. Oh, you're from Co. Let me know and we can decide on a time.
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thanks for the heads up. I'm actually still in colorado for break- enjoying the sunny (perfect for climbing) weather. I fly in late sunday so i might have to catch up with you guys next weekend.
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Well, after a 17' night, the rock was cold at the mill today. Down climbing my first climb on h&r block my fingers were numb. After a little hot air they were ok. I had a good time bouldering and came home with sore tips and shoulders. I saw one other climber, from cmu. I got home in time to watch the steelers beat the broncos.
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I now have my first climbing trip of the year planned. March 17-21 in nc. Yeee Haaaw
When I get back it will be time to start checking out seneca and nrg.
It is going to be above freezing both days this weekend. Anyone interested in climbing? I have emailed some folks in ohio about going to logtown.
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Rain is predicted for Sunday. I am going to try to be at Logtown on Sunday. I haven't picked out a time yet. I will have to see when my friends are up for leaving pgh. Is there a time you are planning on being there? I would like to hang out a bit more since we missed last time.
Dan
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I am tent. meeting a guy there on sat. If you are going on sun. I may be able to make that, too. What time is good for you?
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I AM AN IDIOT
I reread what I wrote. Rain is predicted on Sunday. So, I am expecting to go on SATURDAY. I sent out an email to a few friends and received no responses yet. I may not have anyone else coming. I personally don't care about time. When are you meeting your friend on Saturday? I can send another email requesting that we make it to lisbon by then.
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9:44ish, Dan. cya.
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Sounds like about 6 of us meeting there. That's great for Jan. in Pa./Ohio. Sounds like a great time.
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I am extatic. I had a great day climbing today. I went to logtown quarry in lisbon, ohio. It's one of those places where you climb out of the hole in the ground. Met John and John in the lot and we went on up cause I didn't know for sure when others were getting there. John led this 5.8 or so climb and I got on it on tr even though I have never done it. I came off a cpl times and made it two or so moves further than ever before. We went on down to footloose a 5.9 and I struggled on it for a long time then said the hell with it. By this time Dave has gotten here and Dan, Kubi, and some others from da burgh. Then we went down to Beam me up which is usually wet. Today, in Jan. it was mostly dry. John again led,He's da man,. I did slippery as an eel off the same anchors, a 5.8 I have never been able to finish. I completed it. Not pretty but done. My finger tips were frozen and trashed when I finished it. My legs and arms were shaking and I couldn't feel my fingers for the last 10-15 feet. I am excited, cause thats a big deal for me. There are only two other 5.8's That I have ever gotten up. Later I led the 5.4 classic crack, trad. It was a great day. 53 degrees and sunny in January in nw Pa/ ne ohio. It don't get any better. Climbing with good friends in jan and still making progress at my age. DAYUM!!
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YOU ARE DA MAN BILL!!
i'm giddy just reading your TR
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Indeed, that was a great TR. My day was good as well. We arrived at Lisbon as Bill was in the middle of the 5.8 climb. It was good to meet John and John. Jim (kubi) and I led all of the climbs that were on the Front wall that I saw except for one variation. Jim ended up leading the 5.4 trad corner crack and also a 5.9. I went for the hardest onsight trad lead yet attempted for me. The 5.6 took lots of good gear. I didn't see the move to top out right away though. So, I downclimbed and had to give it another go after hanging for a bit. I am still glad that I stuck to making the hard move above trad gear. It eventually went easily, but I had to overcome my own fear. My girlfriend, Lam, ended up climbing well overall for the day, and Brian decided his injury was too much to climb on. He will be back another day to do those leads. Both of them spent a lot of the day on the slackline too.
I look forward to the next time we get out.
Dan
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Brian is a gigantic pussy, he should have climbed through the pain. Bill, it was nice meeting you and the John's. Check yinz PMs.
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What I did by scotty may have been a 5,7 variation, the guidebook is not that clear. I am still happy I did it, cause I have been on it before and not made it. I don't care about the grade but at my age it's nice to make it up a route you have failed on before. I think we all had a great day. Today it's raining, monday will have some snow and the next ten days do not look good for outdoor climbing. Sorry for those who didn't make it out. Hope to get out with you guys again soon.
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i'm kicking myself.... sounds like you all had a great time on saturday. ~victor
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Edit: Nevermind.
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I was just noticeing a post starting a gathering in rumney this summer. The eastern part of pa has a gunks gathering in the fall. I think wpa should have a gathering this summer in seneca and maybe one at nrg too. What do you think. Maybe if we keep it simple and just have community meals or eat together at the same time we could simplify eating. All we need to do is climb and then get together to drink and tell lies after dark. What do you think. The rondeveau is in may at nrg. We could go to one in june and one in july. We could do sept and oct also. Let's have some thoughts. WE could invite epa, ohio, and wv. too.
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I like the idea. One minor problem for me is that I will probably go on an internship outside of Pittsburgh again this summer. So, maybe May would be a good time for me, but I would encourage the idea even during the summer.
A second thought is that we often drive down to those places on our own. I would be more psyched about making a slightly longer drive to a place where we go less often as individuals. My thoughts would be RRG or the Gunks.
Would this be a weekend thing or a weeklong thing? That could cut out my suggestions. Like I said though, I would be up for a trip to anyplace.
Let me know what you think.
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i'd be up for something. like micro, i'm itching to get to RRG.
More than likely I'll visit the NRG/Summersville area at least once a month this summer, since it is the best-est place in the world to climb. :)
the food situation can be tricky, especially for folks who want to get on the rocks early in the AM, or who prefer to eat at a restaurant vs. pavilion. off the top of my head i can't think of an easy solution. however, i'll ponder some more.
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There are two holiday weekends in the spring. Easter is mid April and mem. day is end of May. The explorers club goes to stone mnt nc. over easter. Moores wall, pilot mnt., and saurtown are all near stone. pilot mnt is only 3 hrs south of nrg. I think rrg is 8 - 9 hrs. away. That makes them simalar distances but you can't pull into nc state parks in the middle of the night. I wouldn't mind going to rrg but there is little there I can lead. Victor and Dan, You two can get friday off easy, correct. We can still have a party at seneca this year. Maybe if we pick some dates we can have a decent size group for these places.
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Indeed, I can get fridays off very easily. Your statement of driving times and the possibility of going over holiday weekends is leaning me away from a far away trip. People sometimes make other plans. Maybe the far away places are best saved for a week long trip. A 3-4 day weekend at Seneca or NRG would be a blast.
I don't know. Honestly, if you just picked a time-day-place then everyone would be happy. Not everyone will be able to come no matter what, and not everyone will feel it is the best place. Tell all the rest of us what you come up with. Then, only change it if there is some huge problem like... Caldwell is giving free gear away at the wall that weekend. :) If someone really had a preference, they would have stated it by now.
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Hey all. How's everyone this morning? Anybody down for meeting up at either climbnorth or the climbingwall tommorrow, saturday the 11th? I'm down for some top roping and really dont feel like getting stuck bouldering by myself. I've been to climb north , but not the climbing wall yet. Climbnorth is open 6-9pm and climbingwall 12-5:45 tommorrow. I am down for whatever time. I live in Irwin by the turnpike so either one is cool with me.
My climbing partner and best friend recently passed away from heroin. I had no idea he was on it, so I've had a pretty hard time with it and really need to get back on the rock or wall as soon as possible. I have climbed with other people before, but he was the one that started at the same time with me and climbed with for the majority of the time. But I know he would want me to keep on climbing and get better. Climbing has always been a coping skill for me, so I have to get past these feelings, find some new partners and climb on!
If anyone is down for meeting up tommorrow give me a call. 724-799-5396. Name's Adam. Thanks
Your phone's ringing Dude.
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Feb 10, 2006, 7:10 PM
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I will be at the wall around 2. I called you already. I don't think I described myself. I will be wearing pajama pants in the top rope area, and I have brown hair.
Hope to see some others out as well,
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Dave and I went to the mill after work. Climbed from 4-6. It was 54' when I arrived and 42' when I left. We had a great time. Fingers are trashed.
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Its been a great ice season... Hope everyone's been out enjoying it! Rock season for me is still a few weeks out... (only after ALL the ice has gone) I have some big plans for this rock season and am looking for help with some development projects this spring... Anyone interested get in touch! I'd like to start gathering names and numbers for volunteers.
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PM sent
Thanks for putting things together. Organizing can be one of the biggest tasks.
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Dave and I are going to the mill sun. don't know the time yet but I told him not early. It is sposed to be 40. We can at least boulder if the rock isn't dry on routes.
Noonish is the word.
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thanks for posting. I was thinking it is about time to get back outside again. Though, tomorrow I am going Curling. I hope you have fun.
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Mar 5, 2006, 11:51 PM
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Still a little icey at the mill. Bouldering was ok but most of the routes still had ice and snow on them. Springs comeing. I'm going to nc. in two weeks and I'll drag it back with me.
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Mar 5, 2006, 11:58 PM
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please bring it back.... i can't take this cold weather anymore!
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charley
Mar 10, 2006, 10:42 PM
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The mill 10 tomorrow am.
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charley
Mar 12, 2006, 3:34 PM
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Fyi the explorers club of pittsburgh is buying whiterocks near fairchance with the western pa. conservancy. If you want to help or find out more check them out at http://pittecp.org
It's not that hard to type. :lol:
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microbarn
Mar 16, 2006, 7:00 PM
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Going to the New this weekend. Unfortunately we have 4 in our car currently, but I figured that Adam and Victor might be up for driving down together. Maybe others will be there too?
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Mar 16, 2006, 11:25 PM
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the New is soooo tempting... if someone is interested in driving down sat am and returning sun pm... that might be a possibility for me... i'd pay my share of the gas.
today I purchased my airline ticket to Las Vegas... heading to Red Rocks and J-Tree for 7 days in mid-April with a buddy of mine... i can't wait. if anyone has trip beta or tips on which guides are the best, i'm all ears.
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Mar 20, 2006, 12:58 PM
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the New was fantastic this weekend... perfect temps and friction... led my first 5.8 sport (Cerveza Verde at Beer Wall) + several other 5.5-5.6's... ran into Dan & Jim + friends ....
thank GOD spring is here!
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microbarn
Mar 20, 2006, 1:16 PM
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Congrats on the strong lead!
It was a good weekend. Started out on Tattoo wall, and froze to death. Then headed over to Beer Wall with the sunshine. The second day, we were smarter, and we went to Kaymoor Slabs. Had a good day there. Found our guidebook sucks. We couldn't figure out a couple of the trad routes. Ended up clipping bolts.
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Mar 20, 2006, 10:06 PM
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Hey,
I'm thinking about going to school in Meadville, PA. I was wondering if there is any good rock in the area. Meadville is about an hour north of McConnell's Mill. Can anyone help me out? Thank You!!
Matt
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microbarn
Mar 20, 2006, 11:33 PM
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charley is your best person to ask. From what I can tell, he knows of all the areas up yonder.
You also partially answered your question. The mill is a spot with a bunch of climbs. It is a good trip when you feel like staying local. I really like making weekend trips down into west virginia, but you will be about ?5 hours? out from Seneca and the NRG.
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charley
Mar 22, 2006, 1:36 AM
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There is sposed to be a quarry in meadeville but I know nothing about it. The mill is closest. Lisbon, coopers,seneca,and nrg in that order. There are some others but those are the best.
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charley
Mar 25, 2006, 1:39 PM
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I am back from my jaunt to nc. Got a cpl nice days climbing and a bit of partying. Anyone else crazy enough, Dave and I will be at the mill sunday, prolly just bouldering. Noonish is early enough cause it is sposed to snow.
Well we went to the mill. It was cloudy and cold, even damp. Three sides of island block and ross boulder were climbable. The sun did shine three times for a very short period. We had fun and a few hikers came out late in the afternoon, even some rapellers. Tomorrow when I will be back at work it will be 50 and sunny. we also had sleet falling on our heads today. Spring in pa. ain't it great.
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charley
Mar 31, 2006, 12:52 AM
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Anyone for logtown on sunday.
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microbarn
Mar 31, 2006, 1:25 AM
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sounds wonderful
I have to be back at Pittsburgh by around 5. So, I am going to try and leave pgh for logtown at ...9 AM?
Any suggestion otherwise? I will still have to see what my friends say, but you would be welcome to join us.
Dan
PS I will be turning 26 on Sunday.
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charley
Mar 31, 2006, 1:53 AM
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Happy birthday,Dan. I'm not sure when I will get there and who all I'll be with. Hope to see you guys.
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charley
Apr 4, 2006, 12:23 AM
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I forgot to tell you happy bday on sunday. I'd say we all had a great day. The weather was nice and the rock was dry. Saw alot of ppl sunday at lisbon from the site. I'm ready for some coopers, seneca, or nrg. Then I have surgery tuesday after Easter. Doc says I shouldn't miss any climbing. Good to see all you folks, maybe we should switch belayers once in awhile, just to climb with different ppl.
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microbarn
Apr 4, 2006, 1:23 PM
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In reply to: Good to see all you folks, maybe we should switch belayers once in awhile, just to climb with different ppl.
good point. While we have been to the same climbing spots a couple of times, I don't really feel I have "CLIMBED" with you yet. :)
I did have a good day. I am looking at the weather. I have found and collected a couple of guidebooks for the bouldering at Coopers. I have also never been bouldering. (That is to say, go bouldering with out also roped climbing the same day and place.)
I am hoping to head down to coopers for a day of good quality bouldering. However, if there are 2 sunny days, I would like to head down to NRG or Seneca.
Let's see what happens with the weather this coming weekend. Right now I am seeing a chance of rain on Saturday.
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microbarn
Apr 7, 2006, 2:02 PM
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I am planning on hitting up Cooper's on Saturday starting around noon. Sunday I plan on going to Breakneck. Hope some others can join me.
I am particularly excited about coopers because I will get to try some 'real' bouldering.
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charley
Apr 9, 2006, 10:22 PM
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I went to lisbon again today. How was coopers Dan. For some this is a three day weekend. I have friday off and would like to go to seneca if the weather is ok. Anyone else interested? We could try for a group at snowbird.
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microbarn
Apr 10, 2006, 12:41 PM
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Friday off? I can't make that. I might be able to come down for Saturday and Sunday though. I am kind of afraid. I have a sneaking suspicion that I will have a forced rest weekend. I hear rumors of all kinds of Easter events going on.
You didn't mention it, but I hope you had a good day at Lisbon.
Is anyone interested in going to the Mill on a weeknight? There is more light lately.
Coopers was great. It had rained all morning, but the friction there is so good. The wetness did not bother me. I worked a couple of boulder problems. I had fun, but I enjoy routes more. The most satisfying problem was an overhanging hand jam crack. I never 'completed' it, but I got really far. I was quite happy with my improved jamming capabilities. I will have to continue to work it in the future.
Sunday at Breakneck was also a very profitable day. I eventually worked up to lead the 5.9 that was scaring me previously. My friends wanted to practice their photography skills. Jim (Kubi) was belayed on top rope on the next route. Steve was taking pictures from the ground. I felt more pressure because of it. I was glad I got the lead done though. There were a few other climbs that I did, but overall it just felt like a good day. Sometimes, even if you don't climb hard it just feels good to succeed.
Victor, did you make it to the New? How was your climbing?
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Apr 10, 2006, 2:27 PM
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I now live about 15 minutes from the Mill, so I will definitely be there weeknights. Let me know if you want to hook up on a specific night.
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charley
Apr 11, 2006, 12:26 AM
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I usually go on wed nites depending on weather. The explorers club from pburgh comes up on wed starting in july, I think, there will be lots of ropes up.
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Apr 11, 2006, 2:16 AM
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In reply to: My friends wanted to practice their photography skills.
it didn't do much good, my pictures still sucked. In my defense, though, it was a rough situation to be taking pictures in, dark, shadowy rock and bright sunlit backgrounds. I did as best I could, though. Here's the best one, I think.
http://i1.tinypic.com/v5lso1.jpg
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microbarn
Apr 11, 2006, 2:24 AM
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HAHAHA
I look like I am pooping out a big one!
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chronicle
Apr 12, 2006, 1:36 PM
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Went to the Mills last night, worked Birthday Boulder for an hour before it got dark. So close, but yet so far away. A couple more attempts and it is mine.
I think I would rather not be around when the explorers club is there. It would just be too crowded for me.
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microbarn
Apr 12, 2006, 2:49 PM
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Good job on the bouldering. How long have you been working the Birthday Boulder?
I also will probably look to avoid the crowded nights. Lot's of people are fine, but it limits how often you can get on the rock.
I won't be making it out to the mill. I am retarded. My last 2 classes ever required are 4:30-6:30 every Monday-Thursday. So, if I leave here at 6:30, then I still won't have more than an hour of climbing. I will have to wait until this semester is over before I start planning evening trips to the Mill.
I can't wait until the end of this semester. I may take another class or two, but it will only be out of my own interests.
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Apr 12, 2006, 6:12 PM
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Hey all. Been a while since I have been on here. Working too much. But I am off Friday by noon until Tuesday!! Woohooo!! Anybody down for some top roping, bouldering, whatever I just want to do some climbing. Let me know. Thanks. Have a good one
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chronicle
Apr 12, 2006, 6:22 PM
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I started working Birthday Boulder 5 years ago when I started climbing. I never really worked it seriously though. Now that I moved back to this side of the state after 2 years in Bethlehem, I've been working on it rather consistently at least one day a week.
I'd much rather be climbing trad or sport routes, but climbing is climbing so I'll take whatever I can get.
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microbarn
Apr 13, 2006, 5:24 PM
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I am going to Lisbon on Saturday. You guys would be welcome if you want to come.
Enjoy Seneca Rocks Bill.
^^^ whoa, all of the words in that sentence are capitalized legitimately. The wonders of the world will never cease.
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microbarn
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I went to the Banff Film Festival last night. Was anyone else there? I had a good time. The movies were all pretty interesting. I saw a bunch of people I climb with in the gym. I will be there again tonight.
By now Bill is trying to dodge between the raindrops. It says 70% chance of rain in Seneca. Hopefully he found a dry area to climb at. Despite it raining, I am jealous I am not out there too.
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Apr 14, 2006, 3:49 PM
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Don't be jealous. Seneca in the rain is a mournful place to be.
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charley
Apr 19, 2006, 12:13 AM
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Got to climb some, got rained off. Left because of rain sunday. Stopped at coopers on the way home.
My surgery went fine. I don't know if I'll be climbing tomorrow though.
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charley
Apr 20, 2006, 2:56 AM
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A friend lost a black rope bag with webbing inside to set up topropes. He lost this at logtown within the last month or so. There may have been a small robot cam too. If anyone found this or know who may have let me know.
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Apr 20, 2006, 12:34 PM
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Hey Chronicle, do you still plan on coming out to the gunks next weekend?
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Apr 20, 2006, 10:31 PM
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just got back from 7 days in Red Rocks/J-Tree. Had a BLAST. Climbed with another ECP buddy (Terry) and stayed with former ECP member Bill Hobbins. He has a great place to crash, and will open his doors to fellow Pittsburgher's. and he's only 10 minutes from the entrance to RR canyon!
climbed panty wall and black corridor crags at RR (sport 5.7 - 5.9+) and the Thin Wall at J-Tree (TR-ing). practiced placing pro at JT on some 5.6 -5.7's (on TR), and led one of the routes with pre-placed pro. great experience.
last day we trad climbed with Bill and his friend on Solar Slab Gully (5.3/ 5.4ish), stretching a couple of pitches long to make it a 4 pitch climb (normally a 5 pitch climb). we climbed as two separate teams, but followed each other closely. i led the 1st and 3rd pitch, Terry led the 2nd and 4th. built our own anchors. now i'm totally psyched on trad. the Solar Slab climb was the icing on the cake. we couldn't have asked for a better climbing trip.
seneca anyone?!!!!!!! :)
cheers,
victor
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charley
Apr 21, 2006, 12:24 AM
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Come on down may sixth. Lots of easy trad. Sounds like a great trip.
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Apr 21, 2006, 12:33 AM
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that does sound like a great trip!!!
Glad everything worked out for you. Soon enough we will be heading out. It would be good if you came along. For some reason or other, I haven't been able to get a full weekend climbing trip recently. I hope to remedy this soon.
Dan
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Apr 21, 2006, 12:48 PM
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yes, i'm looking forward to the next weekend getaway at seneca or NRG. i'd love to do some easy trad with you guys. i think my next available weekend will be either the 13th or 20th of may...
i now have a full set of BD stoppers, but i'm really trying to solve this pesky problem of finding $$$ to get the cams..... perhaps a garage sale? Pawn my wedding ring?! sell the kids???!!! seriously though, i think by the middle/end of summer i should have a working rack to play with.
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Apr 21, 2006, 5:10 PM
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So far I'm still planning on coming out next weekend. Should be a good time.
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Some of you may have seen this, but I thought I should post it anyway:
http://www.seneca-rocks.com/website/article.asp?id=441
It's about the Cinco de Mayo party at Seneca on May 6th. Assuming the weather isn't horrible, I think this would be a blast.
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hi, i'm fron south america, fron suescxa colombia, i'ben n climbing for 12 yrears , this is my thirth time here on the statees, I'll be here on pitsburg for some time and i need to go climbing, i'm a solid 10, and love 11, 12 , and 13.....
plese somebody btake me to the rocks becxouse i'm gonna be crazy....
sorry about my english
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microbarn
Apr 22, 2006, 12:26 PM
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OH, I see. So, you are in the area now though? OK, I thought in your PM that you were there now.
Yea, we can work something out. This weekend I am not going out. However, I really hope to go somewhere next weekend.
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Buenos Diaz Senor Rocha!
I will try to let you know when we go out. Do you have an automobile? All the crags require some driving.
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thanks everybody, i'll be waiting for newsa to go climbing.
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Hey Guys I'm pretty new to climbing, just started in September, but i found this thread and thought i'd post. I live a lil north of Pittsburgh and climb the Mills every now and then and will be a lot more as summer gets closer. But anyway, back to why I was posting. I was at REI in Pittsburgh last night and an employee that was working there wall was talking to me and said in May towards the middle of the month, there is going to be a BCS competition at The Climbing Wall in Pittsburgh, He said some big names are supposed to be there thought i'd let everyone know. I haven't checked it out yet but i'm sure they have info on BoulderingCompetetionSeries.com about it
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Apr 24, 2006, 3:33 AM
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I hadn't heard about that. Thanks.
I actually only look forward to comps because they set a bunch of new good routes. :) I went to one comp, and I didn't seem to have as good a time as everyone else has. Of course it probably didn't help that I sucked.
I look forward to running into you at the wall.
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I don't remember the exact Date, but i'm pretty sure he said the Comp. was May 10th or 11th. I dont remember exactly though. He told me the names of a lot of the pros going, but I can't post right now cause i'm at school and supposed to be getting a lesson in Microsoft Excel. I'll post names later Tonight
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Apr 24, 2006, 9:12 PM
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In reply to: yes, i'm looking forward to the next weekend getaway at seneca or NRG. i'd love to do some easy trad with you guys. i think my next available weekend will be either the 13th or 20th of may... i now have a full set of BD stoppers, but i'm really trying to solve this pesky problem of finding $$$ to get the cams..... perhaps a garage sale? Pawn my wedding ring?! sell the kids???!!! seriously though, i think by the middle/end of summer i should have a working rack to play with. victor
how much for the children?
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Apr 25, 2006, 3:03 PM
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however much a set of BD camalots cost..... $400?! :)
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Apr 25, 2006, 3:25 PM
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dude, you got 2 children right?
That means one for a set of C3's, and the other for a set of C4's.
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Some of the Pro's going are"
Chris Sharma ( WOOHOO IM REALLY EXCITED!!!)
and thats the only name he gave me, but said that there should be some of the guys that were in a movie called Dosage
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microbarn
Apr 27, 2006, 12:35 AM
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hello all,
I plan to hit up Breakneck on Saturday and Coopers on Sunday (weather permitting).
Where is everyone else planning on going this weekend?
Dan
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Apr 27, 2006, 2:46 AM
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hi microbarn,
i really want to go climbing, but i don't have a car . i can make that somebody take me close to a place to meet you , buy I'll appreciate if you take me there, .
thank a lot if its possible.
Hugo
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Apr 27, 2006, 6:22 PM
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I have a test today 4:30- ??? I hope we get in touch after that test is over.
Depending on where you live, we should be able to give you a ride.
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Apr 28, 2006, 8:27 PM
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Anyone not going anyplace better, there are some folks coming to the mill sunday about 10:30 am.
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I got in contact with hugorocha, and he actually lives in Philly. So, this western PA thread doesn't help him much. He won't be joining us this weekend. :(
I wish him luck with finding partners on the other side of the state.
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Hello All!! I'll be at the mill this saturday. It should be fairly interesting. I'm bringing 3 people that have never climbed before. Any suggestions as to where i should set up top ropes for them to learn on?
-Brandon
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When I bring out people that haven't ever climbed, I try to make sure they succeed at everything. So, I try to put up the easiest routes available. If they send all of them, then I would start putting up harder and harder stuff.
With this being a Saturday at the mill, you will probably be limited in the availability of routes.
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tarheels131
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hey guys i was up at mills from like 5:30-7:30 on Sunday and I noticed a yellow cam wedged in some rock. When I went to inspect it, I noticed the reason it was probably left there was because the triggers were ripped off. Does anyone know of a way I can still get it out w/out the triggers?
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microbarn
May 1, 2006, 1:31 PM
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use 2 nut tools to individually actuate the cam lobes.
Chances are that the cam is still probably overcammed though. So, it still could be quite difficult.
After 50 million people yarded on it enough to break the trigger wires, would you really want to be using that cam?
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microbarn
May 1, 2006, 3:03 PM
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The new Seneca Guide is in the Gendarme. I already bought a copy. I will be picking it up during the Cinco de Mayo party. No shipping, but guaranteed a copy.
Woot!
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I hit up the Mill on Saturday. I went up alone and met some folks who were very nice. Bouldered a bit w/ a couple guys, then set up on Sunshine and ended up sharing rigs w/ another group next to me.
Thanks to those who were so nice to let me hang out and climb w/ them.
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That yellow cam has been their 2 or 3 years and has had everything including a crowbar used on it. Save your time and spend some money.
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microbarn
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I am going to meet 'hammerhead' from RC.com at Lisbon on Wednesday at 8 AM. Anyone else wanting to join us is welcome to come. We will probably be looking to leave by 2 PM or so.
Dan
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I saw a post by kubi in another thread stating that Krahlick is now closed. I haven't heard anything about this. Can anyone clarify?
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tarheels131
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haha i just read the post about the cam being there for 2 to 3 years. haha i didn't want the cam to use i just wanted to get it out to keep and fool around with. haha
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cortisol
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Thanx bud!!
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jconly
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Hey all,
I'm relativly new to climbing (have been doing indoor at school for about half the year, and have climbed at the Mills once before), and I am really looking to get involved this summer. I am from the North Hills, and I am planning on checking out Climb North gym (about 5 mins from my house) in hopes of meeting some people.
Although, I really want to get involved outdoors this summer. Basically, if anyone wouldn't mind taking someone under their wing for a little sharing of experience, it would be great to get to know some people in the area.
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Hey jconly,
Around here we're all about helping people get started. We'd be happy to take you on some trips outside, if it ever stopped raining long enough for the rocks to dry! Alternatively, if you have a way to get down to the city, there's a group of us that go climbing almost every Tuesday and Thursday at the Climbing Wall in Wilkinsburg.
I'm sending you a PM with more info.
Matt
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microbarn
May 18, 2006, 11:58 AM
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like Matt said, you would be welcome to join us
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victor999
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as well, i'm happy to take someone along on a day of climbing. there are lots of local crags within an hour or so. if you have the power to make it stop raining, all the better!
victor
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tarheels131
May 18, 2006, 12:24 PM
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Hey, I was at the White Rocks Bouldering Comp. In Pitt. Last Weekend, was anyone else there???
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microbarn
May 18, 2006, 12:31 PM
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no, I went to one comp and found it wasn't for me.
Good news is that they raised $1700 for White Rocks. Only another 83300 left to go. I wish them luck. I figure I will see how much I can donate directly after my next paycheck.
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Thanks guys...
I'll be in touch
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firefighterusaf
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Hey All,
I will be back in Pittsburgh in early July coming home on leave from korea for a month. If anyone wants to do some climbing let me know.
Yats
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microbarn
May 24, 2006, 12:55 AM
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sure, we go out all the time. When you are actually back we should plan something.
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hey ya'll- claire and i will be down at the New this weekend, along with a buddy and his son. we'll be at chestnut creek campground and climbing in bubba city, and possibly junkyard. i hope everyone is able to get out this weekend and do some climbing!
victor
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microbarn
May 25, 2006, 2:11 PM
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Lam and I are moving :(
So, we won't get out at all. My parents are coming up to help move though. So, we will be able to do some visiting too.
Hope yinz have fun.
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Going to nrg fri afternoon til mon evening. Anyone near I79 want a ride?
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victor999
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we're leaving in a couple hours for the New as well. it seems a lot of people are heading down there this weekend!
we're opting to stay with my mother (she lives 45 minutes from the gorge) and shuttle back and forth, hanging out mostly in Bubba city and Junkyard. just look for the tan 4Runner with NRG, SR, and JT stickers!
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charley
May 30, 2006, 7:44 PM
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Victor, where were you sat. morn. we went to beer wall and climbed although things were still wet. Was jyard dry? We had a good time though.
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microbarn
May 31, 2006, 2:39 PM
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man, I feel like such a loser
It was a great weekend to be out. Especially Sunday and Monday!
I went to NY on vacation for two days. Then I moved apartments and got a puppy. I have a lot keeping me busy. I will probably get some free time to come climbing in a week or two.
I don't know how hard I will be able to climb though. I busted my foot. I was stupid and kicked a rock while wearing sandals. It looks like the crack in my toenail will take about a month to grow out.
Hope you all get enough fun outside to make up for my lost time.
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May 31, 2006, 5:29 PM
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Claire and I were at Sandstonia (aka tattoo wall) saturday morning for a few climbs...rock was a little wet, but soon dried out. also picked up the new NRG guide, which is really good and has the new Meadows routes.
Met up with friends Sunday AM in Junkyard for rappelling and TR.
Monday we went to Beer Wall, spent some time on the popular 5.5, 5.6, and 5.7 area, then, for the last climb of the day, my friend (terry s.) attempted Beer Wench (5.8), was about to clip into the 5th bolt, right foot slipped, and he took about a 15 foot fall, but not before slamming into an 8 inch ledge midway through the fall, breaking his left ankle and right elbow. he was able to ambulate with minimal assistance back to the car, went directly to Canonsburg hospital, admitted overnight, and had surgery next day. although he remains in good spirits, he's out for the rest of the summer. 6 weeks in a cast + physical therapy.
remember to be CAREFUL out there... obviously this sport can be dangerous.
victor
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May 31, 2006, 5:32 PM
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Sorry to hear that he got hurt. That is a good reminder. Too bad we need reminders about the dangers of the sport sometimes. Hope he is back to 100% quickly.
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I'm sorry this happened.
My best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery.
I hope Terry emerges stronger and bolder for the experience.
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Anyone have any ideas as to who stole the shuts up at Breakneck Rocks? There's a reward for any infomation leading to a conviction ;)
Good news is that they've been replaced!
Thanks again goes out to all of you who've donated graciously to the SWPA bolt fund.
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Jun 1, 2006, 12:15 AM
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Anyone have any ideas as to who stole the shuts up at Breakneck Rocks? There's a reward for any infomation leading to a conviction ;)
Good news is that they've been replaced!
Thanks again goes out to all of you who've donated graciously to the SWPA bolt fund.
Enjoy the routes!
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microbarn
Jun 1, 2006, 5:25 PM
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don't know who stole them, but I have been wondering how much it would have been to replace them myself. It has been a pretty big pain to me as well.
How do you donate to the SWPA bolt fund??? I hadn't even heard of this before, or am I missing the joke?
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tanderson
Jun 1, 2006, 7:25 PM
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Yeah that was a joke...
I tried to put together a SWPA bolt over the years. hasn't go so well. Only one person in 14 years has ever offered to help cover any cost of bolts, hangers, equipment, etc that I've used in the development I've done. Then to see it stolen..... What a bummer. I hope the theives crater trying to clip one of the stolen hangers.
For those that don't know... its expensive to put up routes. A bolt and hanger are at LEAST $4 each. The average local route has 5 plus shuts We'll say $30.00 a route (average). The lost crag has 70+ routes... thats a cost of about $2100.00 in development hardware costs. Now factor in a $600.00 drill plus all the bits and every thing else... Thats just the cost at one crag. Yeah it burns me up to see my routes raped of bolts, etc...
The route development I've done around here is my investment towards good local climbing for us and future climbers. I hate to see it ruined.
Now that I'm done ranting...
WHO WANTS TO GO CLIMBING!!!
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microbarn
Jun 1, 2006, 8:06 PM
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I had said previously about how I haven't helped to place any bolts or support their purchase. I will help. My difficulty is that I just gave more generously to the NRG bolt fund then I should have. I will have to get a couple more pay checks to pay that off.
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microbarn
Jun 1, 2006, 8:08 PM
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ps
we appreciate your conservation and clean up work as much or more then your bolts
thanks
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kubi
Jun 1, 2006, 8:42 PM
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Tim,
I'd love to make a donation to the SWPACC. My prefered method of donating would be buying the hardware and a case of beer and helping you put up routes all day long.
send me a PM if there's any way I can help.
Jim
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Great... Glad to see some excitment. Let's get some serious efforts together if people are interested. Myself and several other local climbers plan to start development in the very near future of a -NEW- undisclosed area in Connellsville that will keep us busy for quite a while. Limestone crag with beautiful views. First ascents for all...
I've got the drill and several hundred bolts and hangers. All those serious about pitching in please PM me.
Let me know where we can go with this...
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i'd like to offer some assistance.... use my car for carpooling, buy some beer, help pay for a route, etc..... every little bit helps, i suppose.
can't help but appreciate the work someone did everytime i clip a bolt... breakneck is a nice little crag.... that sucks about the anchors. jerks.
victor
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Hi boys,
It's been a while.
I'm glad this forum has become so useful.
Where are my sisters, though?
I'd like to get out some time, so please think of me kindly.
If I meet a bolt bandit, I'll skin him slowly.
Anyway, toodle-oo, and be careful with anchors and rappels. The death count is rising.
The Vixen
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yeah, claire and i are a little spooked reading about the table rock fatality... although we didn't know the woman, our hearts go out to her husband and the families.
this (plus my friend's recent injury) has made us re-evaluate how we rappel, clean routes, etc. we're going to re-learn the auto-bloc to provide redundancy on rappels.... i mean, why not? it only takes an x-tra minute to do... we're open to other ideas to provide x-tra measures of security.
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microbarn
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hey vixen,
you keep threatening to get out climbing, but all I hear is threats. :)
If you are looking for females, I can only name Lam (my fiance) and Claire (victor's wife). They are the only ones I know getting out on a regular basis.
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claire would love to climb with another female. girl power! :lol:
pm me for claire's info.
victor
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microbarn
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Lam would also love to climb with another female. We should make it a point to climb together sometime.
PS ...seems we are planning on going to the new next weekend. Maybe others would be interested in going down again?
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we just sat down with our schedules for june... we're thinking about NRG, Meadows, and/or Summersville this weekend, friday - sunday. we might have the kids with us. we'll know more later in the week. but i'm itching to try some of the 5.5 - 5.6 trad routes at the Meadows.
i'll be out of town the next weekend on business.
for the 23rd - 26th we're seriously considering a 4-day trip to red river gorge. we'll definitely be w/o kids and could take 2 additional people with us in our 4runner.
we'll be at the Wall tues and thurs nights this week, 7'ish - 9'ish.
victor
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Jun 5, 2006, 10:06 PM
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Are there any climbers here from around the Johnstown area. My partner recently moved away ( right when we were starting to get out alot ). I'm somewhat new to it, but looking forward to doing some trad as soon as I can find someone to teach me..
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I will be out near Cranberry next weekend (16th and 17th). Probably going to McConnel's Mill. Been there once but didn't climb that time. Anyone interested in joining up?
Eric
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anyone know if they fixed the gas leak at the climbing wall?
sucks driving out there and the place is closed.
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Hello eric,
I am sorry, but I probably won't be getting out this weekend. I hope you find someone to meet up with.
I never heard about the leak at the wall. When did it start? Usually they fix gas leaks very quickly. Otherwise, there could be some major problems.
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i emailed TCW and they're open again (after the gas leak forced an evacution) ... but of course i can't go tonight.... sigh
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YOUGH GORGE work day:
ATTENTION SWPA Climbers:
All those who are interested in volunteering time, efforts, money, whatever towards the development of the fresh new YOUGH GORGE crag. We are planning a work day:
Those wishing to help clear trails, clear brush, develop new routes, etc... We are meeting this Saturday JUNE 17th at the Valley Dairy Parking lot in Connellsville. Anyone interested in breakfast be there at 9:00 a.m. We plan on pulling out of the parking lot at 10:15 am. From there we will drive to the crag to start work. The road to the crag is a very rocky dirt/ gravel road that is NOT suited for the average passenger car. An all wheel drive Subaru, etc. should do fine. Please don't plan on taking your honda accord... If you need to ride with someone please let me know ahead of time so we can make arrangments to have vehicles for all to ride in. ALSO if you have an SUV, pickup, AWD car with extra room for a passenger or two please let me know to help in making arrangments for others.
A little about this crag. It's located high up on the Youghiogheny River gorge outside of Dunbar. It's a Limestone outcrop that is mostly cool and shaded this time of year. At certain points you get nice views of the river gorge below. It ranges from about 30' to 60' tall and follows the gorge at least 1/2 mile probablly more.
I went there today (Monday) and started to do some basic work. Clearing some basic trails to make access easier for the group on Saturday. The rock needs some cleaning, but the potential looks good. Numerous nice cracks are waiting to be climbed as well as steep faces and quite a bit of friction climbing. I worked on trails along the first several hundred yards of rock band. Some loose rock, but it mostly seems solid.
Useful items to bring and needed items:
Gloves
Wire brushes (several)
blow tubes for clearing after brushing. (aquarium tubing or a ball point pen tube usually works for me
Anything for clearing high weeds
Shovels
Hoes (NO...your significant other doesn't count)
webbing to leave behind as rap stations
rap rings
anything else you think would be useful....
If you have any questions please PM me on here or email me at climbpa@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Tim
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Jun 14, 2006, 5:52 PM
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I have a wedding to go to Saturday. :cry:
Tim, you say there is 1/2 mile of rock there eh? Sounds like a lot of potential. Is it mostly sport, or does it look like there are enough features for some decent trad climbing?
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At least a 1/2 mile of rock band. Went up yesterday and cleared more trails and built a set of stone stairs up a 15' steep hillside to make access to the cliffband easier as well as cut down on erosion. We cleaned and climbed 2 lines that were very nice. One was much harder than I expected. The other was actually a rap line that I setup on a tree in the one section of cliff. Turned out to be a nice moderate climb. I'll have to relocate the rap station to another less desirable line. I quickly found out how much different the limestone is compared to our normal "Gritstone" Not nearly as grippy.
There are definately trad lines all over the place. I just question how well cams would hold in the limestone cracks... They seem rather polished and able to slip out. I'm just thinking of instances that I've heard about over the years at bellfonte quarry. I havn't taken my trad rack to the new crag yet. Soon enough... The climbs are also longer than I initially thought. At least as tall as Breakneck most are actually taller. So there's definately something for everyone.
Cheers,
Tim
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Trip report:
There was a nice turnout for Yough Gorge Saturday. Dan, Lam, Steve and Mark came down, and an extraordinary amount of trails were built. The engineering talents of CMU were certainly put to good use with the copious number of steps up and down the steep hillsides.
There was more climbing done than I thought there was energy for. Five climbs were set up and the quality is very high. The climbs are 65 to 70 feet high. Everyone climbed very well, although not up to the standards of resident hardmen Carl Samples and Tim Anderson.
By five everyone was exhausted, but all agreed it was an exceptional day. Another day or two like that and the trails will be largely done! Hopefully we can get a big turnout next weekend.
Come contribute to the development of what will soon be a world class destination!
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It was an excellent weekend. I had a blast. I really look forward to returning this coming weekend.
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We're having another climbing/work day at the Yough Gorge crag. Same time and place as last Saturday. Anyone else interested in joining in. Contact me.
Tim
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Claire and I are heading down to the NRG this weekend and staying at Chestnut Creek campground. Bringing the mountain bikes in case the weather turns bad.
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also, if this interests you, check out my pics page to see my photos of John Bachar soloing in J-Tree back in April. I didn't realize it was him at the time-- only realized it after seeing a picture of him in a recent climbing mag. fortunately we were able to talk to him for about 10 minutes.... real nice guy!
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There are two towns named Lisbon in Ohio, one near E. Liverpool and the other near Dayton. Where is the place you climb? Also, I'll be going to Pittsburgh soon. Is there anything near there?
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microbarn
Jun 22, 2006, 8:39 PM
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Logtown Quarries in Lisbon is here: http://www.rockclimbing.com/...tArea.php?AreaID=654
There is another link off of that site with even more info.
Most of the climbing is far away really. McConnell's Mill is about 45 mins North. Everything else is atleast an hour and a half away. Often it is to the south near Connellsville, PA.
Check out the routes database. The crags have a city listed that they are close to.
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Jun 23, 2006, 2:26 PM
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In reply to: Logtown Quarries in Lisbon is here: http://www.rockclimbing.com/...tArea.php?AreaID=654 There is another link off of that site with even more info. Most of the climbing is far away really. McConnell's Mill is about 45 mins North. Everything else is at least an hour and a half away. Often it is to the south near Connellsville, PA. Check out the routes database. The crags have a city listed that they are close to.
It also depends on how long it takes you to get out of the city and the weight of your right foot. I can get to some spots like Breakneck in an hour or less. Most crags are a bit further. Coopers Rock is less than two hours, and the New and Seneca are around 4 hours.
Another great source of information is Tim's site. Several areas include route maps and photos. Please note that Krahlick is closed. It's been posted in local shops and here, but not on Tim's site.
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Jun 23, 2006, 2:30 PM
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In reply to: We're having another climbing/work day at the Yough Gorge crag. Same time and place as last Saturday. Anyone else interested in joining in. Contact me. Tim
Looks like I can't make it tomorrow. I'm leaving town earlier than I expected, and have a lot to do before the trip. I'm looking forward to getting back out there upon my return.
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Jun 23, 2006, 2:35 PM
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booo
booooooo
You can make it. Skip out on those obligations. :)
have a good trip
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Jun 23, 2006, 3:24 PM
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In reply to: booo booooooo You can make it. Skip out on those obligations. :) have a good trip
We'll see, but it's doubtful. The weather looks like garbage for the next couple of days, which is making my decision easier.
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Jun 23, 2006, 3:29 PM
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Hey, thanks for pointing out the weather. I was feeling pretty unlucky that I couldn't make it down to Seneca or NRG this weekend, but the weather is worse down there. If it rains on a shorter trip up here....then I haven't lost as much.
WOOT
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microbarn
Jun 27, 2006, 11:29 PM
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Bill, you had a friend that I met down at Seneca last time we were there. He had a dog with him. What did he do with the dog while he was climbing? I would like to hear other people's suggestions on what to do with a dog while I am climbing at Seneca too.
Also, what is everyone's plans for the 4th of July weekend? Anything cool?
I am still debating what to do. Lam is really pushing for something where we don't have to camp (Cumberland, MD where we can drop the dog off at my parents) or someplace like the NRG that we could bring a dog with us during the day.
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Does anyone know what's happening at Bellefonte?
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microbarn
Jun 30, 2006, 11:29 AM
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I haven't heard anything, but I haven't even been to Bellefont yet. What have you heard?
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Jun 30, 2006, 12:02 PM
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oh, I see
http://www.rockclimbing.com/topic/89221
I suppose I won't be climbing there any time soon. There are plenty of other places to go.
On a different note, I finally put together my plans to go to Cumberland, MD. I see there is rain predicted for Monday and Tuesday, but I can deal with that on Monday or Tuesday.
What is everyone else doing?
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Jun 30, 2006, 12:27 PM
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microbarn
Jun 30, 2006, 12:42 PM
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You really lucked out with a family member close to the nrg. I am quite jealous.
I thought you were all gung-ho about trad......did that get dropped in lieu of the great sport available at the NRG? :)
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there's a lot of trad at the New as well, and now with the Meadows... there's one wall at the meadows with several 5.5 - 5.6 trad climbs... i'm hoping to try it out this weekend. bubba city has several easy trad climbs too. junkyard is all trad.... but i'm still wearing diapers when it comes to trad.... literally and metaphorically! :)
what really sucks is this rain lately. i can't stand it anymore. of course there's no use in complaining, but it feels good to bitch sometimes.
i'd like to bring my cats to the New but i guess now Dan's dog would eat them.... :)
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Jun 30, 2006, 3:02 PM
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Well, I won't be at the New. So, you can bring them this time.
Every time people discuss bringing their cats or walking their cats I am reminded about the one time I actually saw someone try this.
The girl had a cat on the leash. The cat was freaking out. It would try to dart back and forth because it was in unfamiliar territory with lots of new things going on. It also happened to be in the middle of a field where no cover could be found. While darting, it would run into the leash, and it would fall down. It would get back up just looking bewildered. Then the owner would try to "walk" it around. The thing then realized the leash attached to its neck, and the cat fought with the collar, leash, and owner for a while. Something happened in the surroundings and the cat went back to darting. The whole time this owner was getting scratched and scared herself. She gave up "walking" the cat pretty darn quickly, but then she couldn't get the cat without being clawed. She got clawed dropping the cat and almost lost the leash when the cat went back to darting. Some brave soul eventually just grabbed the cat and withstood the scratches. The cat disappeared, but the girl was still around. I wonder what the inside of their car looked like.
Man, cats are great. What else deserves so much ridicule?
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ps
right now the dog is about the size of a cat we expect it to be on the medium to small size
also, it is LOVING anything that moves. Whatever it is, it will run up to it and roll over on its back to play. This could very well freak a cat out, but I don't know.
....those silly cats...
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I was wondering if anyone (or if you could recommend someone) around Johnstown, PA would like to help out my dad and I get started climbing. Right now we are just interested in doing some rappelling and topropeing. I would like to eventually do some sport or trad, but dads not to keen on that so we'll see. The main thing we need is guidance on building bomber anchors. We have made a few anchors that would make the rest of you cringe. So we could use some help. We have a very basic rack; rope, harnesses, biners (locking and non), atc, and a couple pieces of webbing. So if anyone would be interested in helping us not kill ourselves it would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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I live 35 min. from Mcc mill.
Charly: I was looking at bringing 12 scouts to Mcc mill or Ohioplyle for some climbing...We had been to NRG, RRG and Libson and I wasnt sure if it was worth the drive. Is there any bolted climbs there or is it all TR? Are the routes grades? How high are the climbs? What type of rock is it, so I know to bring a rack or not.................Thanks Frank
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jocaam, I am not aware of anyone near the johnstown area that posts in this thread. I don't even know of someone to put you in touch with. If you ever want to come out toward Pittsburgh, I would be willing to help out. Have you posted in the Eastern PA forum? There might be someone there that atleast has a contact in Johnstown.
fmd, The mill is about as tall as Lisbon. The rock is sandstone, and it is often more humid there. So, the rock takes a little longer to dry out. There are a couple of areas one could go, but for the main part is probably the best to take a group. Often it is crowded there though. So, plan on getting there early to reserve your spots. Everything is pretty much toprope there. My PERSONAL opinion is that it is NOT worth the drive. I find the rock dirty and wet. I also find the crowds to be worse then any other area around. The mill is the closest crag to me, and I see the mill as a last resort. Plenty of people disagree with me though. Bill (screen name charley) is one who does like the Mill. I hope you get other's opinions on it too.
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Jul 5, 2006, 2:16 AM
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i 2nd dan (microbarn) on the mill-- it is some pretty dirty climbing.
but if you're within a 45 minute drive (like Pgh), and it's been dry for a few days, then it's not bad for a TR workout.
it does have its own ethos and charm.... fun for groups new to climbing.
victor
ps. dan- my cats wouldn't last 5 minutes at the crag, but one time we did meet a really cool cat down at the NRG-- it was on a leash-- it acted like a puppy it was so cute.
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I'm at the mill alot cause I live 35 min from it. I am there most weeks at least once during the week and sometimes on the weekend if I don't go somewhere else better. The mill is a strange place. Many climbs are dirty esp if it has rained lately. There can be days with no rain and the rock is wet from the condensation from the creek during the nite. Some weekends its afriggin zoo with groups and some times there is noone there. Some days there are noobs that I spend hours showing them enough that they don't hurt themselves and other times I watch ppl cruise the tens. I would not drive an hour and a half to climb there. If lisbon is closer go to lisbon. It can be a nice place for groups but some of the stuff is hard to get up on and it is a bit spread out. The easiest climb is slabby and needs to bedry. The next two you need to know how to rig. Thats my take on the mill.
I have had alot of good times there. There are places you can climb in the rain and places I climb most of the winter. There is a lot of bouldering too.
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The Mills can be dirty, wet and crowded, but is also a place of great beauty, with a lot of stiff, demanding climbs.
I've had many great times there, and shall continue to enjoy the Mills once or twice a year.
However, it is a long drive, and generally not worth it.
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Vixen, are you going to coopers this weekend? The old ayh'ers are going on sat. I am going to be there with some rc.com friends for the weekend.
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microbarn
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what are ayh'ers? :)
I have to go to a wedding this weekend. :( Also be planning stuff for my own. Lam and I moved it up to Oct 14th of this year.
Last weekend we went to Cumberland, MD. I saw you had a first ascent there Bill. I am looking forward to going back. Still need my lead head worked out on easy stuff.
Dan
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Hello fellow rock climbers. Just wanted to let you know that the "Yough Gorge" is looking good. Lots of sport and trad routes have been going up. Current route count is at 60 or so.. We've been having a blast putting 'em up... Western PA has such a wonderful climbing community. It just doesn't get any better than the climbers around here. Sooooo motivated and full of energy. WOW! Anyone need beta.. contact me pesonally. I'll be happy to tell you where to go!
773H SWPA climbers rock!
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well after thumbing my nose at the Mill, what do i do? i go and have 2 very nice evenings climbing there... rock is/was relatively dry and you can't beat the natural air conditioning coming from the crevices. i even got a little further up over the roof on mission impossible. felt really good.
i think we're going to head down to summersville lake this weekend and camp/climb/swim. that crystal clear blue water sounds very appealing after this incredibly hot week.
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Jul 18, 2006, 11:04 PM
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No one wants to climb on 95 degree days?
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microbarn
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:(
Bunch of people I know headed down to Seneca this past weekend. They had a great weekend they said. I was hoping to get out on Sunday.
Instead....wedding planning got in the way
guess what I am going to be doing this coming weekend? ...wedding planning.
I haven't climbed outside since we decided to move the date up to Oct. 14th of this year. I don't expect to climb until about a month after.
I hope everyone else is getting out and enjoying the summer without me. It certainly isn't happening with me.
Any ideas on how to skip out on some of this?
Have others been getting out to help with the new crag???? I have been itching to check out the new stuff.
Please keep me updated. I have to live vicariously through all of you. :)
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welcome to married life!
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we climbed at summersville lake friday. it was warm, but the lake kept us nice and cool. i led a 5.7 and a 5.9, both near orange oswald. we were the only ones there all day. it was like having an amusement park all to yourself. we had a blast.
climbed again in junkyard, NRG, on sunday. beautiful weather. claire worked on a 5.11a TR problem and made it to the top. she's really improving a lot lately. we were the only ones in junkyard until we left around 2:30 to go swimming at summersville lake. it was fun to swim and watch guys trying the 5.12's and 5.13's by the water...
i think we're going to head down again this weekend and do summersville lake friday afternoon, and nrg either sat or sun. there's another 5.7, a couple of 5.8's, and 5.9 called 'personal pronoun' that i'd like to try.
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I am looking for a climbing partner in the Pittsburgh area who would be able to meet me at "The Factory" climbing wall three times a week for training. I am a relatively new climber (about 6months) climbing 5.8 to 5.10-. Just moved here from Reno Nevada, easy going and laid back, just want to get climbing again.
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Welcome
There is a group of us that goes to the Wall every Tuesday and Thursday. It seems most people try to go out on the weekends. I am planning a wedding. So, I am not really a regular any more.
A guy named Steve is the most regular of our group that goes. He gets there around 5:15. He likes to top rope. You will probably have to take the belay test to TR. Steve is a short bald guy. What hair he has is kept shaved close and is dark brown or black. He has thin rimmed glasses. He often wears khakis and a t-shirt.
You should say hi. Explain what is up, and I am sure he will be friendly. He will often boulder until others arrive. That is a good place to hang out and talk to him.
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Excellent, sounds like a really great and open community around here in Pittsburgh. I will have to stop by , thanks for the tip.
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I posted this in the "Access" section but didn't get a response.... does anyone in here know what's going on?
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We wanted to climb at Sandstonia (aka Tattoo Wall) in Bubba City this last Saturday (7/29/06) but after parking and walking a few hundred feet, we began to notice all of the shiny, yellow "NO TRESPASSING" signs stapled to every other tree. We paused, then called Waterstone sports in Fayetteville, "Ya, some cars have been getting towed there" was the response. We ended up going to the first pull-out and enjoyed the day at Beer Wall instead.
Does anyone have any information about this (new?) restriction? Is anyone working on a solution? Access would still seem possible by walking the cliffline trails, but I would imagine that parking will become an issue, especially during holiday weekends, and especially since the overflow section of the 1st pull-out also appears to be off limits.
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In reply to: I posted this in the "Access" section but didn't get a response.... does anyone in here know what's going on? ------------------- We wanted to climb at Sandstonia (aka Tattoo Wall) in Bubba City this last Saturday (7/29/06) but after parking and walking a few hundred feet, we began to notice all of the shiny, yellow "NO TRESPASSING" signs stapled to every other tree. We paused, then called Waterstone sports in Fayetteville, "Ya, some cars have been getting towed there" was the response. We ended up going to the first pull-out and enjoyed the day at Beer Wall instead. Does anyone have any information about this (new?) restriction? Is anyone working on a solution? Access would still seem possible by walking the cliffline trails, but I would imagine that parking will become an issue, especially during holiday weekends, and especially since the overflow section of the 1st pull-out also appears to be off limits. Victor
Victor....I had seen the signs also when I was down there in June and I just went back to the Junkyard area for I didnt want to have any problems. I would call Sherri Glendenon in Glen Jean (NRG NP office) and she'll more than likely know...Or you can try Hardrock climbing and talk with Tom Wendell. I dont have these phone numbers but they are on the web..................Frank
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Sorry I can't help. I will try to find the thread and give it a bump. Someone might know more. Not to dis them too much, but overall, I have not found Waterstone people particularly knowledgeable on access stuff at the New.
I am still stuck inside. IT IS SUMMER AND I CAN'T CLIMB! I was hoping to make it back outside again this coming weekend. Guess I can only cross my fingers for now.
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In reply to: Victor....I had seen the signs also when I was down there in June and I just went back to the Junkyard area for I didnt want to have any problems. I would call Sherri Glendenon in Glen Jean (NRG NP office) and she'll more than likely know...Or you can try Hardrock climbing and talk with Tom Wendell. I dont have these phone numbers but they are on the web..................Frank |
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more info can be found on the original thread (access section) but the bottom line, it appears, is that it is OK to park in the 2nd pullout, but not too close to the road or you'll get towed.
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Just to clarify: Jim, Brian, and I were on the scene of the accident. None of us was hurt.
I will probably reply in that thread later today.
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My feelings were hurt. The dude who decked didn't even thank us for schlepping his gear 1/2 down the stairmaster.
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I had a good day with friends at lisbon today.
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That is good. I hope to make it back out in 2 weeks. Our thread has slowed down. I saw some pictures of Victor's trip to Rumney, but I didn't hear any detailed stories. Maybe he will share those stories here?? Of course, it might have been a ho-hum trip too :)
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thanks for prompting, dan! (ho-hum my butt! :D )
RUMNEY WAS GREAT!
claire and nina both led their first routes-- a 5.2 called "a week with pete" and then they jumped on a soft but vertical 5.7-- i was very proud of them! the rock was great, too. unlike anything i've climbed on to date. i'm definitely looking forward to going back.
if anyone wants to see pictures, they're welcome to visit:
http:www.mise.us/family.html and follow the link to the album.
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ya, the thread has been quiet lately... i hope that means that folks are out there touching rock!
we're not sure if we're gonna head back down to the New this weekend or wait until Labor day, but we'll definitely be climbing somewhere. claire had a lot of fun at cooper's (with dan and friends) a few weeks ago, so we're thinking of maybe heading down there again. we're always open to ideas if anyone wants to join.
summersville lake has limited days, too, in terms of swimming.... they'll be draining it in a month or so....
too many choices, so little muscle repair time!
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i think we're going to stay local this weekend, and perhaps try to climb on friday and/or saturday. we're thinking: The Mill, Cooper's, Cole's Cove, Breakneck....
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I haven't been to Cole's Cove. I saw your pictures on your website. It looked pretty cool.
This weekend, I am having the bachelor's party. So, still no climbing....but this time I can deal with it. :)
I hope you have fun no matter the place you end up.
As a side note I heard that Excursion moved their classes to a new place. I only heard it said. I think it was Knoll's Knob?? In any case, that is another place that I will have to check out some day. There are just a ton of places in that area.
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we'll be at the Mill tomorrow from about 2 to 7. our friend rikk is going to join us around 4.
charley (bill) are you going to be around?
anyone else is welcome to join. the more TR's set-up, the merrier!
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it was a fun time at the Mill yesterday... good to see ya, bill!
although claire and i tried our hardest, yesterday's ascent of Mission Impossible belonged solely to Nina!
we're heading out today to Breakneck... claire and nina want to do some easy sport routes.
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Aug 26, 2006, 9:22 PM
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Easy?
Not at Breakneck.
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Aug 26, 2006, 11:31 PM
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In reply to: Easy? Not at Breakneck.
:lol:
as we soon discovered! the 5.5 wasn't so bad, but man, that 5.8 slab threw us all for a mental loop.
claire and nina enjoyed the reggae music and song!
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Here are a few updates to the Breakneck guide section/map of my website...
A couple of new moderate sport routes:
The original "old School" 5.9 trad is now a 5.9 sport route 5 - bolts, open shuts at the top... It ascends the left most line of bolts (around the corner from mosquito). It turned a seldom climbed trad line into a sure to please warmup for the rest of the lines on the main wall.
My website lists #8 as a project - This line was sent back in 2001. The resulting climb was "Diesel" 5.13a - 3 bolts to ring shuts. This is the line to the left of the obvious wide crack "eclipse." follow the bolt up a thin right facing flake to a rest ledge, climb up right on thin holds passing the 3rd bolt. move back left above the bolt to a technical finish and the shuts.
project #2 had the shuts stolen. Not a big loss. Hardly anyone ever worked that route.
To the right of G.Y.B. is a new route named "Revisited" 5.10c/d - 4 bolts, snap link anchors. This route ascends directly up passing 2 bolts to the arete. follow the arete passing 2 more bolts to the shuts.
To the right of Revisited, passing the "climb-up" access point to the top of the cliff is a line that was bolted last year, "Fools Gold" 5.9 - 3 bolts, shuts.
Other new lines to go up soon. Have Fun!
Tim
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Aug 29, 2006, 10:12 PM
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TRAD CAMP
http://www.newriverclimbing.com/
Looks like it could be fun. Wish I could attend. Arno and Craig were great instructors before.
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Tim- thanks for the update to Breakneck. it's such a great crag, and i'm appreciative of all the work you (and i'm sure others) have put into it.
quick question: i don't have a drill, but i'd be open to fronting the cash to buy two sets of contemporary anchors for the two 5.5 climbs. my wife and daughter and i climbed there last weekend, and, as beginning sport climbers, thought they'd be a great addition to those two lines. just a thought, and an offer. i'd be open to help put them in, although i'd probably be learning more than actually helping.
keep up the great work!
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Aug 31, 2006, 3:37 AM
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May God bless you Tim, for all the hard work you have done for climbers in Western Pennsylvania.
I know many have never thought of giving any thanks to you, but without you this would be a climbing wasteland.
May I always give you good belay.
May you always walk in sunlight!
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Another thank you to Tim for his work in swpa.
Anyone going to coopers this wknd? I'm not but I know some who are.
I'm going up to oil city area on mon and might drop by the mill on sun. Have a great one.
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we finally decided to go down saturday night to the New and at least visit with family, but later realized we could have easily climbed all three days! although it was cloudy, they didn't get hardly any rain down there. and the air was cool with good friction.
at least we got in a solid day on sunday, and claire and i both nabbed a few climbs that we couldn't do at the beginning of the summer, so that felt good. all in all it was a good way to end the summer season.
we'll probably be looking at local climbing for the next few weeks. i hope everyone else had a good summer of climbing.
cheers,
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charley
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And now starts my fav. the fall climbing season. Even here in pa. we have twelve weeks of great climbing weather till the rains get bad and it gets cold. Hurray for sept., oct., and nov..
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Yea, I guess I never really thought about my favorite season, but I do like the fall a lot. It doesn't rain like the spring and it isn't as hot as the summer.
I can't really think of anything bad about the fall other then being surprised by a cold day or two.
Dan
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victor999
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i'm looking to get out tomorrow (sunday)-- if anyone is interested let me know.
it'd be just me, and i can drive.
victor
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mountainman
Sep 17, 2006, 12:42 PM
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My it's been a wet week. Fall climbing? NOT.
Anyway, heading for Breakneck today.
Go Green, Go White!
On the banks of the Red Cedar
There's a school that's known to all.
It's destiny is winning, and the Spartans play good ball...
I just love hearing it.
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Hey,
My name is Matt. I have just moved up to Westen PA to go to school. I'm looking for a climbing partner. I usally frequent McConnel Mills. If any one wants to go climbing (or bouldering) hit me up at choinm@alleghey.edu Thanks!
Matt
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microbarn
Sep 20, 2006, 8:15 PM
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hello
This forum seems to go in surges. Right now, we are on a bit of a break. :) I am busy planning a wedding, and a few other friends I go out with are busy with their semesters. I expect that we should start organizing a few more trips shortly. I try to post up here when I do things. Feel welcome to come along to those trips.
Are you north of Pittsburgh? Are you an experienced climber? Where are you moving from?
Dan
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Sep 20, 2006, 10:18 PM
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me thinkest thou a freak, mountainman! :shock:
we're going to climb at least one day this weekend. haven't decided where. i have a buddy in washington PA that wants to get out too.
btw, did i tell anyone that claire and i bought our tickets to vegas for a weeklong trip in november??? 8^)
cheers,
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victor999
Sep 20, 2006, 10:22 PM
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PAGE 50!!!!!!
This is cause to celebrate!!! Yahoo!
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Sep 20, 2006, 10:48 PM
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The Vixen Posts!
Congratulations boys, you did it all by yourselves. The WPCF needs to be more central to our climbing lives, but I've realized something.
There's a lot of little groups that are closed to outsiders. In fact, they want it that way. Elitists!
Let a thousand flowers bloom. Let those who want the new, seek the new. Let them found new groups. Let's just have fun climbing.
I do miss hearing from a lot of folks who made the first few pages interesting. Maybe I should post once in a while, and give my thoughts.
Hmmmm.
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Sep 20, 2006, 10:51 PM
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Vixen!
How wonderful. welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
Every post would gladden my heart.
Lead us to a better forum, captivating one!
Edit: Tim & I got out Friday, and had a very nice, somewhat cool day, which was a nice relief from the summer sweatfests.
Climbed until my arms were toast. Didn't take that long.
Edit: Rainy weekend. I assume no climbing. Plan to climb Monday with Tim, as my arms have healed.
I refuse to post two theads in a row. Is there a climbing community in Pittsburgh? Inquiring minds want to know.
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The forum has been quiet, although the fact that all our beautiful weather just so happens to occur on the WEEKDAYS may have something to do with it.
the first 3 weeks of october are crazy hectic for me at work-- my hope is to be able to hit the gym a couple times per week. after that i'm planning to get back outside.
Microbarn is getting married soon...that's probably keeping him busy! Poor fella! :(
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Sep 30, 2006, 4:22 AM
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Another rainy weekend.
Are you guys saying your prayers?
Get with it!
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charley
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I'm going to get my fishing license today.
I have always wondered about prayers for the weather. The food crops need more rain than I do.
I have been on vacation for ten days and have had four nice days at the mill. I don't think I'll even try today.
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I said my prayers. I wanted to go out very badly today. I made it out to the gym though. Atleast I got to do some climbing. I am VERY out of shape right now.
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Oct 2, 2006, 12:44 PM
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Just got back from a weekend at the Gunks. The weather was awesome on Saturday, Sunday woke up to rain, so I decided to drive home. By the time I got home, the weather was beautiful out here. I spent the evening at the Mill. Pretty much a perfect weekend.
As for the weather, I've been climbing in between the raindrops at the Mill. You'll be amazed at how well you can stick to dry rock after you've been climbing on wet rock for a week or two.
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chronicle
Oct 2, 2006, 12:46 PM
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On another note, how many people from are heading down to the chili-cookoff at Seneca in three weeks?
I'll be heading down Friday night after work if anybody wants to car pool.
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microbarn
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I missed that there was a cookoff happening. Is there a place I can get more info?
If it is in 3 weeks...I may be able to get out.
How busy was everyone else the weekend AFTER their wedding?
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Oct 2, 2006, 3:44 PM
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In reply to: How busy was everyone else the weekend AFTER their wedding?
All I remember is trying to pick the lock on the shackles.... never could get them off. :)
Just make sure the wedding night goes well ( :D ) and THEN ask her if you can go climbing!
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Oct 2, 2006, 3:46 PM
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I went to the Gunks the weekend after my wedding!!!
I just had a baby a month ago and went climbing one day after coming home from the hospital. My wife encouraged me to go, so I would say it would depend on your wife.
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Oct 4, 2006, 2:56 AM
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If anyone is looking for someone to ride down to Seneca with for the Chili-cookoff, I can take one person in my truck. I will be heading down Friday after work, so probably leaving around 6:30pm and coming back Sunday afternoon/evening. Or if someone has room for one person I will be happy to chip in for gas.
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Oct 4, 2006, 1:11 PM
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In reply to: How busy was everyone else the weekend AFTER their wedding?
I wasn't too busy the week after my wedding, but I wasn't all that busy before my wedding, either. If you get a room you may be able to call the chili cook-off part of the honeymoon.
I had a small window for climbing after my son was born. With him due home in the next couple weeks, it's going to shut pretty soon. Aside from an odd day trip or the gym (I shudder at the thought), I'm probably pretty limited until the spring. I'm really pretty cool with that.
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Oct 5, 2006, 9:10 AM
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A nice, although cool weekend is forecast.
I hope everyone gets to climb to their total satisfaction.
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Oct 5, 2006, 11:42 AM
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Markc, congrats on your son!
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mountainman
Oct 10, 2006, 6:46 PM
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Just back from a weekend of climbing at the Daks with Big Adam.
However, why post a trip report? Are there any climbers out there? Does anyone care?
Let me just say, it was beautiful, and the climbs were classics.
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I haven't been to the Adirondacks in a few years now. We did a bit of climbing at the Chapel Pond Slab. Nice, longer mellow routes helped me develop my meager slab skills. It's amazing how you'll walk upright on something as long as you're the second. Great area.
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Nice Pics! Looks like it was a great trip.
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Oct 11, 2006, 1:21 PM
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Now that looks like my kind of climbing. I'm going to have to dig out my guide and look for route info.
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I've been thinking about a trip to the Daks for a couple seasons now. I've heard a lot of good things about it. I may have to fit that in the spring sometime.
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Oct 11, 2006, 2:06 PM
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Spring-wet, bugs, bad weather
Go now, the next dry spell, before winter comes
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Oct 11, 2006, 2:56 PM
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The best I could do would be sometime in November and I wasn't sure how the weather would be up there during November.
Is anyone interested in a trip to the Daks in November? :D I'll buy the gas if you bring the food. I'm a solid 5.8/5.9 trad leader with 3 yrs trad leading experience. I have climbed extensively at the Gunks, Seneca, NRG, Stone Mountain to name a few.
PM me if you are interested. We can get together locally before hand and get a feel for each other.
Peace
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Oct 12, 2006, 12:21 AM
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Honestly, we're hoping to get up there for ice climbing in November.
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Oct 12, 2006, 12:56 PM
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Really? Ice climbing in November in NY?
It's hard to imagine ice climbing in November since I've climbed at the Gunks well into January for the last 2 years. As long as the temps are above 40 during the day, I'm happy.
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Oct 12, 2006, 1:51 PM
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Mountain fest is January 13th to 15th. http://www.mountaineer.com/mountainfest/mountainfest10.htm
I havn't Ice Climbed in the Dacks but I am considering it this year. I've been to Ice Fest in N. Conway NH a couple times. Very nice.
I probably would have took you up on the offer to Rock Climb in the Dacks if it were this month but cant do Nov. Maybe we can get together for some Ice this winter.
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Oct 12, 2006, 3:19 PM
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I flew over St. Mary's returning from the Daks. Nice looking country. So you have some rock and ice up there, eh?
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Oct 12, 2006, 5:52 PM
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We have some really decent rock. Mostly short 35' to 65' sport routes and TR's. Lots of fun overhanging sandstone. Not much trad but enough climbing to keep sharp for bigger trips. We also have a couple decent Ice Climbs.
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We have some really decent rock. Mostly short 35' to 65' sport routes and TR's. Lots of fun overhanging sandstone. Not much trad but enough climbing to keep sharp for bigger trips. We also have a couple decent Ice Climbs.
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Oct 14, 2006, 11:23 PM
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Anyone going to lisbon or the mill tomorrow? I climbed at lisbon today. It was nice but breezy.
Is Dan getting married today? Congrats you two. See ya at seneca.
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I need to reply cause I only have 3842 posts. Gotta get the count up. :lol:
I had a great day tr'ing at lisbon yesterday. I bouldered at the mill today. I left a little after three and there was a church group there and Bob and I. Crazy for a beautiful fall afternoon.
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microbarn
Oct 16, 2006, 3:05 PM
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Darn #%$^#$% RC.com
It lost that I was watching this thread. I just assumed everyone was out climbing instead of posting. I caught back up now though.
PLEASE do post a TR. Maybe the initial excitement wore off, but those pictures look great. I would be up for a trip to the daks. If the weather is similar to pgh, maybe we can get ice on one weekend and climbing on the next in November. :) I would be fine with playing belay slave if someone were willing to ropegun. When they are tired of ropegunning, I can play around with a few easier leads.
Went out to Annapolis Rocks on Friday. That was pretty good.
In reply to: Is Dan getting married today? Congrats you two. See ya at seneca.
Yes, I got hitched on Saturday. Everything went well. Currently, I am trying to regain sleep and sanity. Lam has a homework due tomorrow and a test on Thursday. So, she doesn't get any break.
No news on whether I am coming to seneca, but I expect to make it. Lam probably will not make it. If we go down, I am hoping that Matt and I will be knocking out all the routes 5.0 and going up. We both want to firm up some leading skills as we get to work on increasing the grades we are comfortable with. Is anyone else going to be heading down?
Dan
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microbarn
Oct 18, 2006, 6:30 PM
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I will be at Seneca. We have a car going down with 5 of us. If someone wants to carpool and split gas on the way down, we are leaving pittsburgh at 5 PM.
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Seneca was lots of fun but the walk still kills my knees. I saw lots of ppl from on and off the site. It should not be crowded now for the next month. Chili cookoff was a fun time.
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Good TR, and congrats for sticking with The Burn and gettin er done.
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yes, great TR
I was also at Seneca. I was in a group of three with Matt and Lam. At the beginning of the day, I had great dreams of running through all the 5.0's in an effort to firm up my confidence and climbing efficiency.
First, we hit up Whorle's Thicket if I spelled it correctly. I wanted to break it into 2 pitches so Matt and I could both lead. In retrospect, I stopped much too soon. Matt was happy because he got a nice long pitch in. For the sake of speed, I traded belay devices with him prior to his lead starting. Then he could use the autoblock, and he could bring up 2 seconds at once. We should have practiced more. Matt (thankfully!!!) didn't want to risk our lives under his uncertainty. So, there was some delay while he checked and double checked how to set up the autoblock. Lam and I sensed the possibility of a problem because of the extreme delay. Another party was behind us, and we offered to get them by. Our hope was to then have the other party make sure everything was OK with Matt. Eventually we made out an 'On belay' command from Matt without the help of the other party.
Because of the delay, Lam and I weren't especially certain that we should both climb. I had her stay at the anchor. I ran up and cleaned everything. As it turned out Matt had everything set up perfectly. I still greatly appreciate his hesitancy in calling it "good enough" though. Lam was brought up and we went about finding the next pitch.
In the guidebook, we were surprised to find that the connection from lower to upper broadway was stiffer than fourth class. In fact, I felt it contained the hardest climbing of our day. (I could have been biased because I was on lead.) Matt gave me the lead and some confidence. It was also helpful to have the two other climbers come by during the climb and reassure me that there were smaller cracks above for protection that couldn't be seen. In about 35 feet of climbing I placed ~11 pieces. The top was "run out" with a whole 2-3 feet between placements. I had to "run out" the top because I didn't have any pieces larger than a 0.4 C4 left.
After the climb was over, I laughed at myself for being so freaked out. The pro was good. The climbing was well below what should have worried me. The falls were clean. I still consider it a victory because I am making some progress in getting a lead head.
Lam got to the top and said she was feeling light headed. So, I was looking for a rap. While looking for a rap, she had something to eat and felt much better. The sun wasn't particularly high in the sky, but Matt was hankering for one last lead himself. Lam felt better after some food. Matt easily convinced Lam and I to find the East face to Gunsight notch. He did that climb with style and rubbed in how good his lead head was. :) He was solid.
The rap down started in the daylight, but took longer to get set up than desired. By the time we were on the ground, it was dark. It also seemed as though it was a new moon out that night. I was the only one that had a headlamp. So, we stumbled through most of the descent until some other friendly climbers came along with headlamps that illuminated more than mine. They helped get us back to the trail. All of us were famished. So, we went pretty much straight back to the Front Porch. I think I spent all of about 45 seconds at the party. I will have to catch more of it next year.
On sunday all of us that were together weren't particularly excited about getting on the rock. So, we called it a day and went home. Matt had a good idea of going to Nelson for the via ferrata. For some reason, I shot him down and we just went home.
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thanks guys for posting TR's... and for all other posts in our forum, big and small. i enjoy reading them, even mountainman's little one-liners! :D
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Leaving in an hour for looking glass nc. Ya'll have fun freezing your butts here in wpa.
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I lead pitch one of the nose at looking glass on sunday. It was a bold lead for me. I need to lead more of those looking glass eyebrows.
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Anyone climbing this week or weekend?
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charley
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someone else post in here cause I'm tired of readin my name at the end. :lol:
I went to the mill today. It was wet/damp. I didn't want to climb that bad. I'll try tomorrow mill or lisbon. I took my rack and played with cracks. The mill is hard to find many cracks and I was trying to find crappy flared horizontals like the eyebrows at looking glass. I found a few. Might try to lead the opposite end of the wall from five fingers arete. It looks like lots of crappy horizontals.
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Hi All...New to RC.com and the whole rock climbing thing in general. My crew and I are hoping for a Saturday morning trip to the Mills. I'm hoping to get on Mission Impossible, so if anybody is around, stop by and watch me struggle! A few pointers couldn't hurt either!
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The rock was decent but cool at the mill this afternoon. I might be back over the weekend, too.
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Anyone want to get out, there is a group going to lisbon sunday. 50 and sunny, it don't get any better ndat.
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microbarn
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did anyone get out?
I missed out on this weekend. The good news is that all of my christmas shopping is done except 2 people.
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As it's getting into the winter season, I'm thinking of keeping in shape by working out at The Climbing Wall down in Pittsburgh. Can anyone recommend a night to go? College night, popular for locals, etc...
Just moved back to the Pittsburgh area. Grew up in Murrysville. I have a fairly flexible schedule now and can climb during the week or weekend if people have time. Just let me know! Trad, sport, TR, whatever. I'm just happy to get out.
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charley
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I could not resist and ran down to the mill late sat afternoon. I then had a full day at lisbon on sunday. I finished a tope rope that I had not been able to finish before. At my age I am happy when I still make some kind of improvement. :lol:
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I spent most of Saturday at the Mills...stayed 'till sundown. A little chilly, but a beautiful day to be out! I might have even seen you out there Charley...I frustrated myself all morning on damp Island block slopers, but finished up the day with a few trips up Sunshine. Man...i love that wall. Trying to make it back out on Thursday again. Its supposed to be 60 and sunny! Can't beat that for a NW PA november day!
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charley
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I talked to a couple guys on sunshine on the way out. The belayer was crashed on a crash pad. I think I'm one of the few 250 lb. short climbers with a white beard. :lol: If you saw one of them the chances are pretty good it was me. I usually just boulder ther unless I'm meeting ppl.
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Monday at High Rocks was absolutely stellar. Warm, sunny and beautiful.
After not climbing for a few weeks, this proud author suffered humiliating defeat, but got up a few things too.
The climbs are mostly mega steep with mucho overhang. Not for the faint of heart.
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I have heard good things about high rocks. Some day I will have to check it out.
I am only getting to climb indoors lately. :( It is still better than nothing.
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You and me both, Dan. With the new kiddo, day trips are out of the picture at the moment. I got over to TCW the weekend before last, and climbed at REI for the first time this weekend.
The tower at REI is pretty neat, but their system is tedious for experienced climbers. With five sides, you'd think they could have a couple active ropes at one time. There was only one (very friendly) guy belaying everyone. It's too bad experienced folks can't belay each other, and downright funny that the staffer has to tie you in.
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Yeah Charley, I was the lazy belayer on the crash pad. It was a rough morning and I was beat by the time you came by. Still hoping to get out to the Mills again this week, but the weather may have other ideas.
So REI won't even let you tie yourself in? I've always wanted to try out their tower, but every time I show up they're using it for childrens' climbing classes. I guess I'll just stick to TCW...just wish they opened earlier in the day!
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I'll be heading back to nc. thursday nite til monday nite. Lots of driving, few days of climbing, get home late, will hate to get up for work tuesday. Ohhhh the sacrifices we make.
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microbarn
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Hey froadman,
Sorry, but I seem to have skipped over your post before. I reread this page and caught it the second time. Myself and a couple of friends are going to the wall tuesdays and thursdays. People show up anytime from 5-6 PM. I aim for 5:30. This week and next I aim for Mon and wed. Then I will go back to Tues and Thurs. If you want to meet up PM me.
NC sounds awesome. I hear you have gone quite a bit. Is there a particular interest you have in NC? Have you made it to the Red or the Tenn crags? How do you think they compare?
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charley
Nov 8, 2006, 10:03 PM
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Dan, I have climbed at crowders, pilot, moores, looking glass., rumbling bald, and table rock in nc. I have friends in brevard right by looking glass. I have looked at stone but not really climbed there. I have visited the red but not climbed there yet. I have not climbed in tenn. yet either. With a bit of luck I should get to stone and the red in the next year. I'm about packed. Should climb at pilot fri morn., moores on sunday and pilot again mon. before heading home. The reason I like nc. besides friends is that it can extend my season. I can be at pilot/ moores in 6.5/7.5 hours. I'm an hour north of pburgh. I think it's worth it for a three day weekend. Stone is about the same distance. The problem is in finding camping because the state parks lock the gates.
Any one thinking about going to seneca turkey weekend. I have mentioned it to some friends and there seems to be some interest in coming down friday morn.
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Two of my grandparents are in poor health. I think I am going to use Thanksgiving vacation to visit with them. My grandfather is in danger of losing his toe to an infection stemming from poor blood circulation, and my grandmother is having some sever back pains.
On a good note, it seems as though froadman and I are going to meet up at the gym on Monday. I look forward to meeting him. Others would be welcome to join us at 5:30 PM.
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microbarn
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crazy new layout and everything. I hope everyone still has this thread bookmarked to be watched.
Did anyone get out this past weekend?
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Made it to the Mill with some friends from Wesminister this Friday. Talk about perfect weather! Sat and Sun were too wet. Ran into Charley as we were setting up, and talked to him a bit. Been out of climbing for a few months but felt good to get some rock under the fingers again. Hopped on a few short climbs and did some bouldering, but my endurance is way off!
There were quite a few people there for a Friday afternoon at least! Guess the hopes of good weather gave others the bug as well ..
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microbarn
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met with froadman last night. He was a lot of fun to hang out with. Hope to climb with him again soon, but with the holidays starting up....
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chronicle
Nov 14, 2006, 2:12 PM
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Charley, I was thinking about either Seneca or Stone Mountain over turkey weekend. I'll let you know for sure by the end of this week. Maybe we can hook up and do some decent moderates at Seneca.
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Hey all--
Since the routes database is awful to navigate now, I thought I could find some beta for Western PA in this thread. I'm going to be in Cambria County (Ebensburg specifically) around Christmas visiting family. I'd like to get on some rocks, but I have no idea of any climbing areas around there. I'll likely have my crash pad and harness, as I'm stopping in VA on the way up. At least if I boulder, I won't need a climbing partner, but I wouldn't mind climbing with a local either.
Thanks.
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microbarn
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I think high rocks might be near you. I have never been, and I understand the access is sensitive. Otherwise, everything is down near ohiopyle. I have never really thought about bouldering at any of these places. If no one else offers, let me know and I can atleast give you directions to one or two places I know in the ohiopyle area.
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charley
Nov 15, 2006, 5:16 PM
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Chronicle, I have tent plans to go to seneca with two others. Maybe you and John could climb moderates, while we climb easy. 
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My elbow is still giving me some issues, so I was thinking of getting on some easier stuff. Routes that I've passed over like Old Man's, Thais, Conn's West Direct. Pretty much staying on 5.5 and under.
I was on a 10c and about midway up my elbow just couldn't handle the stress put on it. It's getting better, I just don't want to put undue stress on it until it's 100%. So I'm looking forward to a casual weekend at Seneca.
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I don't do 5.5's at seneca unless you are leading Like I said before I am sposed to meet two others on friday morn. Not early cause they are driving from ohio even further than I. I'm sure you could climb with us. If something happens with them you and I could climb together.
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I hope your elbow clears up. Mine only bothers me when I'm working out in the gym. Stupid machines.
It's been rather wet and cold. Good running weather. Next week might work though. Prayers wanted.
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charley
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I'm leaving now for the mill if anyone is bored.
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Nov 24, 2006, 2:08 PM
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Nov 24, 2006, 2:10 PM
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Where in ECP do you climb? I am looking for a climbing partner?
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charley
Nov 26, 2006, 9:33 PM
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I don't know who you are talking to but I live right by I-80 and 79. Almost in Ohio.
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microbarn
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WQuade,
You aren't making a lot of sense. Most people here are in Western PA. A large concentration of us are in the pittsburgh area.
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victor999
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hey everyone!
claire and i just returned from our southwest trip-- J-Tree, RR, and a day hiking at Zion. we did a little of everything-- TR, sport, trad, single and multi. we had a blast. claire wants to move to Utah now.
and we caught the tail end of the nice weather here on sunday -- after we picked up the kiddos we spent the day climbing at the New-- had the place all to ourselves and did my first New trad lead (an easy 5.6 route i've done a number of times TR).
i hope everyone else got to enjoy the good weather outdoors..... looks like we'll be spending a lot more time indoors at the gym. 
cheers,
victor
ps. we finally bought the seneca book and are starting to turn our attention to that part of the woods.... looking forward to some weekend trips next spring and summer....
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microbarn
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I am jealous of all the travelling you get to do. :) I need to steal a billion dollars and some time. I guess the trips won't happen if you don't make them happen.
Sounds like an awesome trip all the way around.
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Sounds like a great trip Victor. Give me a holler when you're ready to head to seneca. I know where all the easy stuff is. I have a cpl easy days planned for the spring to get my leadhead back there. I was just there this past wknd and am watching the weather.
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will do, bill. i'm looking forward to doing some trad with you guys next spring and summer!
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The yosemite movie return to balance is on tonight and tomorrow at eight on channel 13, wqed.
Victor, I have a rack and if you want to practice placement and bounce testing at the mill some wknd this winter just holler.
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Where the hell is everyone? Don't you even talk about climbing when it gets a little cold? Anyone else going climbing this wknd? I'm hoping to go to lisbon on sunday, may have to settle for the mill. I have been looking at and climbing some oddball out of the way seldom climbed stuff there lately. It is sposed to be near forty on sat and over forty on sun. Whata ya want this time of year. Beats the hell out of the gym. Views 37958 824
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hey hey! i've been busy since getting back in town... started a new position FT and learning the ropes... plus this new site design is taking some time getting used to... what happened to the nickname thing based on # of posts?
i'm interested in sunday, bill. i was talking to dan about lisbon and it sounds like there might be some fun climbs for beginner trad'sters...
as soon as i get my west coast photos posted i'll include a link... got some great shots of JT and Zion...
last week we bought a 3 month membership to the gym, so i guess mentally we're starting to think "winter training" but since the Wall staff have been so lame putting up new routes (some routes have been there since last MARCH) it's hard to get excited...
let's see if this attachment thing works... if it does, a picture of zion will be attached...
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Nice pic. I sent you a pm.
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Sunday climbing at Lisbon actually sounds pretty good.
I forgot to add about Lisbon: There is no better winter spot that I have been to.
south facing and protected from the wind
I would also be interested in going to the Mill. It is probably better to go there now then it is in the spring and summer. I will think about it more tomorrow morning.
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sunday looks good: sunny, 48 degree, wind = 9 mph.
sounds like lisbon's the place to be that day!
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Lisbon sounds good. I will not be early. It will be cold for awhile and I'm going to party sat. nite.
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the temp forecast is now up to 50 degrees for sunday...
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Ten thirty is early enough for me. I looked at the weather and it will be that late before it goes above freezing. I'll still call you sat. I'll also try to convince a few others.
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Glad things are coming together. I am trying to convince a few people, but no results yet.
Maybe I will see a few people out at the wall tomorrow at 2 PM. I will contact Victor for the details about Sunday the night before.
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I talked to some friends in da burgh last nite about lisbon. They thought I was crazy. A cpl of them are going skiing today. We had a good time at lisbon today. Dan, Victor, Marlene and I had the place to ourselves. It was even warm in the afternoon but as soon as the sun started to set the temp dropped. The high may have made it to fifty.
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it was a great day at lisbon. and jason was there too!
i really liked the last sport climb we did-- i could easily spend more time on that wall.
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Nice pics Victor. Especially the one with the snow.
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That was an awesome day! I want to make it a goal to feel strong the next time I am there. It is time to start pushing myself on those climbs. Let's hope for another warm streak.
My dog stayed with Victor's kids, and that probably topped the perfect day. We came home and the dog just flat out crashed for the evening and this morning. She ate about 3 bites of her dinner. Then she laid down and watched us walk around the rest of the evening, but she didn't watch us as a normal dog would. She let her head stay still and then followed us by rolling her eyes. Any time we walked close by, she would wag her tail 3-4 times to see if she couldn't get any head pats. Lam said the dog had trouble walking back up the stairs after her bathroom break before bed. This morning she is still konked out on the floor.
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that's funny, dan! the kids LOVED having the dog for a day. they kept asking claire, "do you think Dan and Lam would let us keep Reeses?!"
lisbon just might be our new local spot. only 1 hour away, a variety of climbs, easy walk-in, in the sun... if the weather holds for saturday (high = 58; cloudy), claire and i are considering heading there...
we'll probably be at the gym wed night, maybe thursday.
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Ditto. An awesome day climbing. The fact that it was December just made it all that much better. I'd have been happy with that day even in the middle of summer. Beer and chips to top it all off! What more could you ask for?
Nice pics Victor. Really like the trad shots. Here's a couple more.
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I am bored tonight. So, I changed my sig and maybe my profile picture. I need to find a better photo though.
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victor999
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thanks, dan. let's see if this works.
i uploaded the photo last week as a "profile" image; and in my personal profile i selected it with the "choose icon" button and saved the changes. i've done this a number of times....
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victor999
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i give up!!!!!! 
but better yet, just imagine that my profile icon is a picture of me leading a 5.11d sport climb on the beach in Thailand; i'm near the crux, but i pause to sip the beer in my frosty mug, which is being held by a gorgeous, well-tanned Swedish blonde (locked off on rappel) in a bikini with a rack that would make the Pope take up climbing...
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microbarn
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victor999 wrote: thanks, dan. let's see if this works. i uploaded the photo last week as a "profile" image; and in my personal profile i selected it with the "choose icon" button and saved the changes. i've done this a number of times....
One thing I almost missed at the "choose icon" step. Click the circle next to the pic to actually CHOOSE that pic.
Though, you paint a good story. Maybe you shouldn't post this pic.
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charley
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The weather is looking good for both days this weekend. Anyone have a preference.
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microbarn
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both please
:)
Meeting with my advisor tomorrow. After that, I can start to make weekend plans.
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was thinking lisbon on sat, but now maybe sunday... probably won't decide until thursday afternoon or friday am...pending weather report.
i think rikk wants to go on sun. another friend (terry) might join. claire and nina want to go (and we might bring the boys, too) so there's a chance our car might be full.
dan said he'd bring a keg of his home brew... i thought that was awfully nice of him..
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change of plans... looks like we'll be heading down to WV to visit family and climb at the New this weekend. i hope everyone gets a chance to get out and enjoy what looks to be a really nice weekend!
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Dec 14, 2006, 2:45 PM
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and miss out on my keg???
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charley
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Dan, where is your keg going to be. I have an offer from a few going to lisbon sat and sun. I can go either or both.
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We are joking about the keg. I mentioned that I have all the brewing equipment, but I haven't done it in a while. So, I don't currently have any beer to bring.
My plan right now is to meet at the mill at 11 AM on Saturday. Sunday I don't think I have any partners. Maybe I could tag along with you?
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charley
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At this point a bunch, six or so, we will be meeting at 11 in lisbon, sat. I don't know for sure about sun. If I climb hard at lisbon, I may just take the bike and crashpad to the mill on sun. I can check here sat nite.
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I decided I won't climb on Sunday. Hope you have a good day at Lisbon. We have a group of 5 going to the mill. We will even get a slackline set up.
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Dec 18, 2006, 1:39 AM
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I had two great days at lisbon. Hard to believe the rock was almost crowded and it was 60 and some of us were climbing in tshirts on dec.17. WOW
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glad to hear you got out and did some climbing, bill. anybody else enjoy the weather this weekend?!
we had two great days at the New... we finally figured out how to get up New Yosemite (hand jamming? what's that?!), and, for the first time, did some routes in the Bridge area. goofed around on a horrific off-width inappropriately named "butterbeans" (should have been called "offwidth death trap fear fest!"). it was slightly overhanging, sharp rock (looked like the crack was part of an iron seam), requiring good lie-backing skills (which we don't have, of course)... kind of looking forward to going back and trying it again!
i was a little surprised by how empty the place was... only ran into a handful of climbers.
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microbarn
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Victor, it sounds like you had a good weekend.
Bill, I am pretty surprised that it was so crowded out there, but I am glad you seemed to have a good group of friends to hang out with.
I got out climbing on Saturday only. I am glad I made it out that day. Sunday seemed to have much better weather though.
I had another less then perfect day at the mill. Friction was the best I have ever seen at the Mill. (This doesn't say much though.) I got to fool around on 6 climbs total which is good. The sun never reached us, and the stream seemed to maintain a slow constant wind. It felt like 35 degrees the whole day.
At least I made it out. I probably won't be able to climb again until after my honeymoon. I should be back in pittsburgh Jan 15th. I hope everyone else has a good time though.
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hey it looks like the avatar pic is working! i tried everything possible, but couldn't get it to work. so i emailed the RC.com webmaster and he manually fixed it.
i hope everyone has a great holiday season! we'll be in texas for the next week. lots of eating and drinking and not much climbing, that's for sure!
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charley
Dec 29, 2006, 5:19 PM
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Lisbon sat. ten am.
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victor999
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hey bill, who's going?
claire and i can't make up our minds what we're going to do this weekend. my mom's got the kids all weekend, and we have about 10,000 things we want to do...!!!
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Dec 29, 2006, 8:03 PM
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i think we're going to go to lisbon, bill. i'm thinking we'll leave our house around 9:30 or 10 am.
we have room for 2 extras if anyone from pgh wants to come along.
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charley
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Marlene and I for sure. With a nice day there should be more.
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charley
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Ya'll missed another great day on lisbon's rock. We had a fun time.
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it was a good time! great temps!
claire really liked lisbon, too. she wants to go back again soon.
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I forgot it was her first time there. She did a fine job on some of the heighth dependent climbs.
We can't ask for nicer temps this time ofthe year.
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Keep your eye on the weather. It looks like we should be able to climb at lisbon again sunday.
Happy New Year folks.
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happy new years indeed
I am back in pgh until thursday. Maybe I will make it into the gym on Tuesday. See some of you there????
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Hey I live about 45 min from McConnells Mills. I am a fairly new climber and am looking for some people to hook up with to climb sometime and possibly show me to ropes (no pun intended). I have shoes, chalk bag, harness, and helmet.
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charley
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Which direction and how cold are you willing to go out in? I usually boulder through the winter there. If it is about twenty to thirty degrees I usually make it once during a wknd. If it is sunny and thirty I go to lisbon.
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microbarn
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Hey GJ,
You picked a bad season to start meeting up with people. :) Winter will cut down the climbing days a lot. Most of us post up here when we are heading out somewhere. You can probably just follow this board and get in contact when an outing fits your schedule. Most of us are friendly.
Dan
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hey yeah i really dont mind cold give me a call whenever you're heading up 7248168670 if you dont mind some less experienced company. wat gear would i need to bring?
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Jan 5, 2007, 2:00 PM
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It's supposed to rain until ~6am Saturday morning, but be warm and sunny (58° by noon). Anyone think the rocks will be dry on a wall with good sun exposure?
Just curious because i'd like to get out to somewhere around Connellsville.
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Hey guys, I'm new to the forum... But not to Rockclimbing.com... I never realized there was a W.PA. thread... doh!... I'm from around Uniontown and have been climbing in the area for years... well not the past couple, my main climbing partner, my wife, got pregnant and then with the baby just born I havent had time to climb much at all for like 18 months... anyway, we are looking to get back into the groove and with the problems at Krahlick (shame), we are really interested in trying out the Yough River gorge...I've read so much about it, and am excited to try some of the routes... I wish I would have known about it sooner, I could have helped out with some of the cleanup... problem is I'm fairly familiar with the area, but cant find the rocks... could someone give me directions.... I'd really appreciate it.... thanks
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tanderson has a couple of locations in Ohiopyle listed on his page:
http://www.climbpa.telerama.com/
Unfortunately it's outdated by a few years and the Ohiopyle ones do not have any information other than the name itself. However, Tim is very friendly and has answered my questions on a couple of occasions so he might be a good source to ask.
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hey guys new to the forum. names Jordan. I'm from Somerset exit 110 on the turnpike. Anyone around my area that would want to teach a noob. I have a harness, rope, 4 non lockers, one locker, one belay device, 2 6' webbing, and shoes, chalk all that good stuff. Anyone around here Go out in the winter? How about indoor gyms that are not to much $$$$? Well hope to hear from you all.
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hey, welcome to the forum, ya'll. as microbarn said, most of us are friendly and open to having someone come along on an outdoor trip.
i mostly climb with my wife, but occasionally i'll hook up with a small group for a day of climbing.
i'm always interested in finding someone who likes to do the New in a day (3 hours down, all day climbing, 3 hours back) or the New on a sat/sun. some people don't like the long drive, but it doesn't bother me.
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Any chance me and my girlfriend could meet up with a local climber or two, so she can talk to you about climbing she is willing to try it but is afraid she will fall to her death. I would really like to meet some of you I have been on the site for over a year and have still not had the chance to climb with any of you even if its just at the local diner for coffee and to talk that would be great.
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i just sent you a message, jordan. but as i said, i'm sure one of us would be happy to discuss climbing with you and what not.
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Hey all,
I'm kinda a noob but anyone up to go somewhere Thursday or Fri? The weather looks good I'm bouncing of the freaking walls. I'm In Washpa at my parents for break and haven't touched rock or plastic in a month.
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I'd love to get outside this weekend but I don't think its going to happen. I was hoping the chance of rain would go down but looks like they actually went up.
Will be going to Climb North on Sunday. My girl still doesn't have the confidence she needs on the outdoor walls so I'm hoping she can build some indoors. Will be there from 1-3ish.
Also, REI (southside works) is having a "Garage Sale" Sunday starting early. I'm not sure if its at other REIs but one of the sales reps was telling me about it. I guess if you are a member you can buy a lot of returned gear for cheap. Might be a good place to find shoes or harnesses if you're in the market. Have to be a member of REI though.
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microbarn
Jan 16, 2007, 8:10 PM
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Wow, I leave for a week and we get 3 new posters to the thread! Maybe I should take the hint and stop posting to this thread. :)
Hello all,
You can all feel free to join any of the trips that we post up about. Right now it is winter, and fewer trips are happening recently.
The Yough Gorge crag has access issues. No climbing is allowed there currently. If it ever opens up again, I would take a group there again.
Jordan, where do you live. Western PA is pretty big. I would be willing to meet up for dinner sometime if you just want to chat. My wife might also be a good person to talk to since it would be another female climber.
I think I answered all the questions. Please speak up if I missed your question.
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what a shame about the yough gorge.... I'm not sure where it is, but are the access issues with the same hunting club that have closed Krahlick? If so, I might be able to help things in the right direction as I am familiar with some higher members in that hunting club (there are over 200 members).... A friend and I have made a little progress with Krahlick access as it seems most of the guys in the club said they dont mind small groups of climbers, like three or four, but do not want any large groups, especially paid groups, like Exkursion, Wilderness Voyageurs or high schools climbing there... has anyone here been kicked out of Krahlick? I still climb there all the time and havent even seen a club member...
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microbarn
Jan 17, 2007, 1:05 PM
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I heard that the problem at Krahlick was with some lumber yard owner. This is news to me if it is a hunting club.
However, I doubt the same group owns the land at the Yough. As far as I know, Tim is the only one that knows the full story. You can contact him through his webpage probably.
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welcom back, dan.
now... what are you going to do about this weather?
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I,m from Somerset PA exit 110 on the PA Turnpike. Dinner would be great and I think that another female climber would be the best for my girlfriend to talk to and ask question. Right now she's not even talking to me so I will have to see what happens from here.
Thanks
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microbarn
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victor999 wrote: now... what are you going to do about this weather?
well cross country ski of course
:)
I saw the weather was in the 50's until I arrived. So, you can all blame me for the bad weather. I guess I will be seeing everyone in the gym for the next few weeks atleast.
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I know the hunting club leased and posted over 100 acres in that area including Krahlick.... and told a friend of mine they were kicking people off the rocks and out of the swimming hole below.... really for no other reason other than, it's theirs... so we said just to let people climb... so they turned the other cheek, it seemed, for awhile... but then they found out that people were actually paying to learn to climb there and that high schools were paying to have kids climb there and even Pitt was bringing paying students to learn there as well.... and they started worrying about insurance liability.... so again off limits.... then last summer they said they dont really mind regular climbers but will not tolerate any paid groups or large groups, other than Camp Carmel (they negotiated fishing for climbing)... so I would say go climb and if anyone asks, say your from Camp Carmel and carry a Bible to be safe... but thats the story I know and the guys from the hunting club I'm familiar with are senior members and seem to know what they're talking about.... funny thing is supposedly the guy that actually owns the land had no idea that people even climbed there....
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I talked to people at Exkursion and Tim previously about Krahlick. Your story does not match up with what they are saying. I am not knowledgeable enough to state their version of the story. I just know your story does not agree.
I believe them. Both Tim and Exkursion have established reputations for dealing with land owners. I don't know you.
I hope people respect the climbing ban at Krahlick. There are other places to go climbing. If you want help finding them, please contact me or search them out from the directions at http://climbpa.telerama.com like I did.
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here is my attempt at an inflamatory remark.... :)
why don't people just forget about PA and GO CLIMB IN WEST VIRGINIA!!! Seneca... the New... Summersville.....
ha! 
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good point
I don't ice climb, but I like to hear about it.
Are there any rumors of anyone ice climbing yet?
It seems like most everyone would have to go up to the daks until this coming weekend. I bet some people are heading out soon.
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Okay... all cleared up....Technically, both of us are right.... the guy that is leasing the land to the hunting club owns a lumber company and doesnt plan to timber there for awhile... (person I just called couldnt remember the owner's name...) now the guys I know dont care if people climb there, but they can't speak for everyone in the club.... and as far as they know, no one has been accosted at the rocks... but they did reiterate that they will not allow any paid groups at the rocks, which was mandated by the land owner... a quick call to Exkursions confirms that no agreement has been reached.... as for us, they say climb at our own risk... I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong... just trying tie up loose ends.... bottom line: the vibe I get from these guys isnt good, and it seems the more I discuss it with them, the more they lean towards no climbing... so Dan's probably right, safer to stay away.... what a shame...
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ah, alright. I am glad you followed up, and thank you for posting the results too. I appreciate hearing the more complete story.
Sorry if I came off a bit harsh before. I know I am not the most eloquent speaker.
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One thing I hate about forums is that sometimes diction is not clear... though something might sound harsh, it may not be... sarcasm is especially hard to communicate...
I could tell from past posts that you were not a person who "comes at" people...so I took no offense to what you wrote.... actually it made me go get my facts straight...
I love all those places in WV, but can never get there enough as my work schedule will not allow it... which makes me even more disappointed about Krahlick and the Yough Gorge...
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*damn*! i didn't piss anyone off!
ok, it is a shame about krahlick (sp?), but hey, if you want to go to a really cool spot along the same ridge, I highly recommend Coll's Cove, and, if you're up for the trek, White Rocks. And there's also Breakneck, too.
I'd be happy to show people how to get to Coll's Cove and set-up TR once the weather breaks. I think Coll's Cove has one of the nicest vistas around.
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charley
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I'll take you up on colls cove one of these days.
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lol... all those places are great.... although I havent been to Coll's Cove in a long time... I'm game...
well... I got the official word on Krahlick.... I was able to confirm what everyone already knew...lol...I work as an editor at the Herald-Standard in uniontown and abused my credentials to find out who owned the land there... so I called him... lol... he said the rocks are closed... period... insurance reasons...
I mentioned an insurance waiver system to him and he said that a climbing business (Fred?) asked the same thing... but his insurance company wouldn't go for it.... He was very nice about it and appologized, but just can't let non-members climb there.... so really, the hunting club just "polices" the rocks and the land aroud them.... sorry to waste your guys time... this was all hashed out months ago...
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victor999
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thanks, migel and dan. i hadn't heard too much about this, so i'm glad you discussed here.
i should be at the gym tomorrow nite and saturday. maybe i'll see some of you there.
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migelpalmero
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All this talk about closures reminded me of Nelson Rocks in WV... what a great place for sport.... shame.... anyway has anyone done the Via Ferrata climbing trail there? I'm curious what it is like....
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microbarn
Jan 18, 2007, 5:20 PM
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I have never done anything more then drive by it. I missed out on my opportunity to climb there. I heard from a guide that the via was actually quite adrenaline pumping in some places. The traverse on the sketchy swinging bridge with his back-up above his head made him really hesitate.
I wonder if the area will ever reopen for climbing.
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migelpalmero
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yea.. that rope bridge is intimidating.... oh man... shame you didnt get to climb there... a lot of great long sport routes for every ability.... definitely a helmet area though... rocks everywhere... they had a section called 007 Wall... almost every route was named after parts of the Bond movies...like Dr. No Says Yes.... Shaken Not Stirred... good stuff... hopefully they open again.... they say the still let groups climb there...
http://www.nelsonrocks.org/
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heelhook
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Does anyone know why Nelson rocks closed? I mean, I read the blurb on their website but it is everything but enlightening. What I got from it was they closed it because it was too popular. I must be missing something...
Damn. I never got to climb there
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microbarn
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:), I always get second hand info....but what I heard is:
There was an increase in injuries over the years as nelson's became more popular. The owner cares a ton about people not getting hurt. He also wants to make a profit from his resource. So, he thought because of safety and liability it was best to shut the resource down to climbers.
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heelhook
Jan 18, 2007, 11:29 PM
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Thats pretty much what I got from the website. I understand he wants to turn a profit but he doesn't really have any variable cost. I mean, his costs don't go down if no one climbs. He still has to pay the mortgage but he is generating no income from the property. There must be something else.
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truello
Jan 19, 2007, 12:41 AM
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Anyone going to be at The Climbing Wall this weekend and willing to teach me Sport?
I've done plenty of top roping but want to get into the more fun stuff (trad after sport) but unfortunately all of my friends are limited to toproping as well.
I've read a book with a chapter dedicated to it and also web articles and understand it pretty well, I would just rather have someone who knows it well there with me than someone who knows less than I.
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microbarn
Jan 19, 2007, 1:46 AM
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I think it boils down to the fact that if he is pulling in money, then he can be sued. If someone isn't pulling in money, then they are more isolated from liability.
From the threads I have followed, people seem to think his concern for safety is a bigger reason. Those people seemed to speak as though they knew him. I am sure you could search and find the 3-4 threads that covered this in better detail.
Truello,
Did you look at the weather this weekend????
I would like to top rope with you a couple of times first. After we climb together some, I can teach you to climb sport. The other option is to take the lesson from the climbing wall. That is how I learned.
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I will be cleaning up from my trip to the carribean this weekend. I have been busy this week. My grandfather just received a prediction of less then 6 months to live. (No terminal illness. He is just old and there are too many sicknesses hitting him consecutively.) On top of that, I am trying to propose my PhD ASAP.
Stupid work is always getting in the way. On the bright side, I haven't climbed more then twice in about two months. I suppose that is a good rest. If I can get myself back into training, I will be in great shape come Spring.
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microbarn
Jan 19, 2007, 1:48 AM
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opps, I need to work on my reading comprehension a bit. truello said 'and teach sport' instead of 'or teach sport'
Well, you have your answer anyways.
Anyone else received the PDF about the New River Rendezvous? Anyone else planning on going?
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microbarn
Jan 19, 2007, 1:52 AM
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I found the email. It doesn't say more about the upcoming NRR other then the date:
May 18-20
If you are interested in the stories, I can forward the email to anyone. I can't attach the file here because it is too large.
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truello
Jan 19, 2007, 2:24 AM
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I would much rather be outside trust me! I'd be willing to TR with anyone first.
From the looks of your post(s), you look rather busy however. Not to mention I actually live in Cleveland right now. Graduated from a Pitt in December and took a job out here but finally found one back in 'burgh and will be starting Feb. 19. I travel back to Pittsburgh almost every weekend though.
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cortisol
Jan 21, 2007, 9:18 PM
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In reply to: I am trying to propose my PhD ASAP.
Are you planning to do that on the South Summit as well?
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microbarn
Jan 22, 2007, 4:25 PM
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If we could arrange to have my PhD proposal on the south Summit, I would love it. It is a place where they just can't refuse.
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froadman
Jan 24, 2007, 10:06 PM
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"Off belay!" <kick...> "Rock!!!!"
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I think I'm gonna go to the New River Rendezvous. How is it for someone who has never climbed anything beyond top rope? I'm going to the Red Rock Rendezvous and taking some trad clinics, but my partner and I really have no one to teach us trad or sport around here. We will probably teach ourselves somewhere small like Beam's.
Well I rambled off a bit there. I'd like to meet up with some of you all at the NRR or if anyone else is going to RRR. PM me
peace,
chris
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charley
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I think you should make an attempt to find someone to teach you about leading. You are 67 miles or one hour and twenty minutes from pittsburgh. I have and do climb with two groups of ppl from pittsburgh. One of these groups is the explorers club of pburgh and they have a climbing class. It is worth the cost of membership just for the ppl you meet. They have an active climbing group. You can find someone climbing every decent weekend. There is rock in coopers that you can learn to trad climb on and maybe even sport. You can always go to the new with ppl and learn to lead sport there. I would help you but you should be able to find someone closer. the explorers club can be found on the net. ecp.org I think. It is much safer to learn to lead with someone who knows what they are doing.
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victor999
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i 2nd charley on that: visit www.pittecp.org and check'em out.
learning sport/trad on your own? maybe as a last resort, but i would at least try to find someone to show you a few things, give you some feedback, at least the first couple of times you try it.
that said, there are a couple of places that i'd recommend for 1st time sport:
1) breakneck rock: it has a simple 5.5, 2 bolt route that's about 20 feet high.
2) logtown quarry, lisbon, OH: has a really easy 15 foot, 1 bolt sport climb in the back area- obviously created for people to practice on. probably a 5.1 !!!
3) NRG, bubba city, beer wall area: has the easiest sport climb at the New "Near Beer"; a 5.5 route, 3-4 bolts.
but feel free to tag along with one of us, once the weather clears up.
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microbarn
Jan 25, 2007, 3:14 AM
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victor999 wrote: but feel free to tag along with one of us, once the weather clears up.
What they said. I would be willing to meet up with you when the weather improves too.
If you don't know sport, you can still have a BLAST at NRR. There are clinics and there are a few areas where you can set up top ropes.
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charley
Jan 27, 2007, 8:23 PM
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I know some of you may think I'm crazy, the rest of you know it. I drove down to the mill today to check the rock. Most of it was snow covered and wet, not to mention very cold. My secluded kinda protected wall was ok but the rock had a coating of ice or frost on it. I didn't take my pad or shoes out of the van when I went down. I did part of a cold traverse in hikers and decided it wasn't worth trying to climb. Man, 38 degrees and still iced up. It's going back to 22 tonight and tomorrow. sucks. six days to groundhog day then six weeks of winter.
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truello
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Hang in there (or travel south)! As soon as I stepped outside today I had an urge to climb. I knew anything would be pretty wet though. 40° in the winter feels like a summer day and would be great for climbing if it wasn't for the damn snow.
Good for you to actually get out and check the rock though!
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charley
Jan 28, 2007, 12:48 PM
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I have climbed there when it was 30 with snow on the ground. Some days the rock is ok and other times it isn't. I gotta go check.
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johnny1234
Jan 29, 2007, 4:38 PM
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new to climbing especially like bouldering i live in erie been to mcconnells mill and a little in allegheny nat forest
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microbarn
Jan 29, 2007, 5:04 PM
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well, I guess hello. A few on this thread are from north west PA. Most of us are in the pittsburgh area though. Hope you post up though. We are a friendly bunch.
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victor999
Feb 4, 2007, 3:46 PM
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this is non-climbing related (who cares?) but claire and i are going to try our hands at cross-country skiing on feb. 17 -- the PA xc skiing association is offering free lessons that day and rentals are pretty cheap. http://www.paccsa.org/ for more info.
we'll be sans kids and if others want to join, let us know and perhaps we can carpool.
we've been wanting to xc for a long time, and this seems like a good opportunity.
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froadman
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Victor,
Not sure I'll make it that weekend, but my Dad and I usually try to get out cross-country skiing a few times a year. If you guys enjoy it, I'd be up for going sometime this spring.
~Jason
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microbarn
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That sounds great. Lam and I will plan on coming to the xc gig.
On a climbing note....Brain took Jim, Drew and myself ice climbing at Confluence yesterday. It was pretty fun. We had only 2 pairs of boots + crampons and one set of ice axes. This wasn't too big of a deal though. We still were able to get on a few top ropes. I don't think I am a huge fan of ice climbing, but I had fun despite the insane hike.
We were really glad that there was another group of climbers at confluence. We would not have found it without their trail.
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migelpalmero
Feb 9, 2007, 5:52 PM
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Been ice climbing once up in New Hampshire... scared the crap outta me and I froze my ass off... definitely not for me, never felt comfortable like I do climbing rock...
I've never been X-country skiing... lots of snowshoeing though ... but never really got into any kind of skiing... which is kinda weird seeing as my wife has been all over the US and Europe downhill skiing... now that I have a little girl, I might have to make an effort an learn... just a thought...
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microbarn
Feb 19, 2007, 7:09 PM
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it is crazy to see the temperature swing so quickly
I was going to go out xc skiing again this weekend, but it looks like plans might have to change.
Bill, have you been out at the Mill during the cold spell? I remember you often went out despite the weather before.
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It might be a bit premature to say goodbye to the snow yet, but there might be enough of a break to climb if it ever dries out. In the years I've been climbing, I think I've managed to climb rock in PA or WV in every month of the year.
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charley
Feb 19, 2007, 9:33 PM
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The last time I was at the mill the rock had been cold so long it had that stuff like frost on it that got slick from the heat off my hands. There are a cpl days this week that look good but not much time after work. I think it is sposed to rain over the weekend. If it isn't raining or snowing I will give it a try.
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truello
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Starts to drop at the end of that forecast which may indicate that you are right. I'm just remaining hopeful. However, I think there are enough days there that will melt the majority of the snow out there (and leave us with the huge mudhole that is PA).
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hell8o
Feb 25, 2007, 8:21 PM
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Hey all,
I went to the mconnells Mill on Sat. It was cold but the friction was really good. Some climbs were covered in ice but the birthday boulder and east island block were clear. But that was yesterday... today it rained.
Matt
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charley
Feb 27, 2007, 9:44 PM
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Glad to see I'm not the only crazy one out there in the snow.
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truello
Feb 28, 2007, 3:59 AM
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ike_bean and I are gonna try getting out there on Saturday. I'm getting sick of pulling on plastic.
Anyone going to be there?
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charley
Feb 28, 2007, 10:25 PM
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Any idea what time you guys might be there? Let me know. I might show up.
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microbarn
Feb 28, 2007, 10:36 PM
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I have plans that evening, but I would be very happy to get out this weekend.
The temp says high of 35....would you still go if that is still the case on Friday?
I am wavering right now....
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truello
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I'm just anxious to get outside. We're going with the idea that if it sucks too bad to climb we can just go to SRU's gym, though.
He went there today and said its still covered in snow but like a previous poster said, the island block and dirt under it was completely dry and saw some potentials for other climbs.
We'll be there at 2 rain/snow or shine.
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charley
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I will see you guys at two.
I have a mote important question. How crazy am I/you? The weather is going to be crappy over the weekend. We might get to climb a little sat. but sun will be worse. Sugarloaf mountain is twenty minutes south of frederick, md. It will be 53 on sat and 45 on sun. with 10% chance of precip. That is a four hour drive from my place and three hours from pburgh. I was thinking about driving down for a day. It prolly isn't warm enough to climb til 11-12 and they are very strict about being out before sundown, which is six. you could climb for about five hours and drive eight. Is it worth it? I know the fact that I haven't climbed since dec, maybe two months, has some thing to do with how antsy I feel about getting on the rock. Do you think it is worth the drive? Would you go? The campgrounds that I know about don't open til April. You can sleep in a rest area near by, and there is a motel that I think you can get a room for four, (two beds and floor) for about sixty bucks. Dam, I want to climb. Am I totally nuts or what? Quite often when seneca and nrg have lousy forcast frederick is better. It is mostly toproping.
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
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microbarn
Mar 2, 2007, 10:34 PM
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my family is near frederick. If you want a couch/driveway to crash on, I bet I could hook you up. They are closest to Annapolis Rocks though. (Sabillasville, MD if you want to mapquest it)
I can't go out this weekend, but you can reach me on my cell tonight if you want to crash in MD.
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truello
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charley,
I actually left work early and met ike_bean up there today since it was so nice out. Was worth the trip but since I did that I don't think i'm going to head up tomorrow (unless it happens to be 40+).
ike_bean (you've met him before) said he's going to go back (15 min. drive for him, 1 hr for me) tomorrow so i'll let him know you'll be there, that is unless you decide to go south more.
Conditions were pretty good being that its early March. Didn't get to do any toproping though, just bouldered some.
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Hey as far as climbing out at the mills on saturday, i'm going to be there probably sometime after noon. Right now, I'm going out regardless of what the weather is because i can hide under the overhang down at island block and boulder as long as I want. I'm guessing that there won't be too much else to do. Charley, if you are headed up to the mills, let me know. I'll check the forum when i wake up and try to let you know when i'm going. I've been climbing on plastic all winter and now that i've climbed a couple times outside, i don't care what the weather is like. I think it would drive me crazy if i had to go back to the gym and boulder there. Anyways, let me know what's going on and i'll get back to you as soon as possible.
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charley
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I'll be there noon or oneish. Actually it is nice and sunny now. I know that bouldering is all we can do this time of year.
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well so much for climbing today. Sorry I got called in to work at the last minute.
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Sucks don't it Ike. I have gotten to the point where I am particular about when I will answer the phone or go to work. Since this is my last year, scrath that, eight months to work I am almost to the point of not working any overtime. I met a new guy at the mill and we had a nice afternoon climbing. Not a whole lot yet. Too early to push things. The rock was doable though. The fingers and forearms are a bit sore, mostly just tired.
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microbarn
Mar 9, 2007, 4:42 PM
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I am making it official CLIMBING SEASON IS BACK
Is anyone making it out this weekend?
I am thinking Logtown on Sunday. The rain on Saturday will make most other crags wet. Lisbon should dry out and be warmer then most other places.
Anyone else interested?
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Going to Breakneck today. Tomorrow is supposed to be wet and Sunday i'm going to WV for some caving.
Any word on the access issue at Breakneck? Last I heard the rocks were open but the parking/part of the trail is sketchy?
Climbing season has definitely begun :) Planning a trip to Red River Gorge next weekend. Supposed to be 55+ and sunny Thursday through Sunday.
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hey,
I don't know of any access issue at breakneck, just park at the parking lot at the top of the hill and walk down. (Don't park in front of the "no parking" signs.)
Where is Libson? is that in PA? What kind of climbing do they have there?
Thanks,
Matt
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microbarn
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hell8o wrote: hey, I don't know of any access issue at breakneck, just park at the parking lot at the top of the hill and walk down. (Don't park in front of the "no parking" signs.) Where is Libson? is that in PA? What kind of climbing do they have there? Thanks, Matt
http://www.geocities.com/logtownguide/
It is just across the border in ohio. I wasn't convinced it was as close as Bill says, but that man can tell no lies. :) It is about 1.5 hours from pittsburgh. If you are a little north, like him, I think it is a shorter trip.
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victor999
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freakin' fantastic!
i'm sooooooo ready for the rock.
lisbon on sunday is a possibility for me. i'll let you know, dan. you're right- if it rains through tomorrow night, then lisbon the only place local that'll dry out quick enough.
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charley
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I'm planning on being there sunday. When you make your plans don't forget the time change.
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truello
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Breakneck was pretty nice today. Still a lot of snow on the ground but I brought a tarp so it was all good.
I can't wait until the snow melts and the ground is dry but today was still a good time.
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microbarn
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there was snow on the ground???????
man, I thought it was warmer then that. Everything in pgh has been gone a couple of days. Sure the BIG piles from cleared driveways are around, but they will be gone by Wed of this coming week if not sooner.
That is good to hear that you got out. What do you do that enables you to go out on Fridays?
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truello
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IT for PNC downtown. I just work 9/10 hour days on Monday/Tuesday so that I can leave a couple of hours early on Friday. Not to mention I start at 7:00, only because I know that if there happens to be a beautiful day it gives me a chance to get out and get some climbs in before dark.
There were 5+ inches of snow in some places. Should be gone after todays rain and a the few warm days coming up.
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charley
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Ok, who went where sunday? I talked to someone from ohio that thought lisbon would be wet so I went to the mill. I bouldered til tired. It was cold and windy, the rock was cold, and I was the only nut there climbing. I had a fun day. Did anyone go to lisbon? What was it like.
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truello
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I saw Seneca for literally about 2 minutes today. Was down there for a cave ~1 mile from the rocks with a local grotto and went out of my way just to see them. I felt blueballed the entire drive home.
Weather was very nice down there, just wishing I spent it on a wall and not in inside a cave.
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truello
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It it possible to set up a toprope on some of sport anchors at Lisbon without leading? I'd like to take my girlfriend there because I can't think of anywhere else I could set up a TR with it still being slightly damp (the Mill, for example).
I'm just getting into Sport and she has no experience so I don't want to try leading anything.
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victor999
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Truello- the short answer is yes, but i'm sure microbarn or charley can give the long answer, as they are more familiar with the routes.
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charley
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Do you have the online guide. If you do you can set a tr easily on the classic corner crack and on brusitis. If you don't have the guide I will post directions later.
Oopps Those are off trees not anchors. I sent you a pm.
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markc
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charley wrote: Do you have the online guide. If you do you can set a tr easily on the classic corner crack and on brusitis. If you don't have the guide I will post directions later.
There's a link to the online guide in the routes database:
http://www.geocities.com/logtownguide
Surprisingly, I've never been to Lisbon. It looks like it's worth checking out. In the description, I see BSA mentioned. How crowded is the area on weekends?
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migelpalmero
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There's a parking lot above Breakneck? I've always parked at the bottom near the creek and hiked up... how do you get there? thanks
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truello
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http://maps.google.com/...561&t=k&om=1
That's where I parked the other day. It was my first time there so I didn't know what the etiquette was. The road going east had Posted signs on it so I didn't venture down there, even though thats where Tim's climbpa site said the parking was. I'm guessing by on "top of the hill" they mean the dirt road going south as it goes uphill.
The rocks are SE.
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HarklessDO
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Haven't posted on this thread before. I am from Clarion PA roughly. Sounds like almost everyone is from Pittsburgh area. Just thought I would let everyone know there is a sandstone area called Panther Caves. Halfway between Oil city and Tionesta. It is a very poorly known area as far as climbers go and has way more than the mill. I don't post much about do to the fact that it is on private property but climbing is allowed. I just don't want it to turn into the crowded area that the mill is when it is not my property. Most of the climbs are in the 35-65 foot range. Top roping and trad are the usual style we take part in. As far as difficulty there is a wide spectrum. If you want more info on it or would like to join me some day just PM or email me. It is a little more of a drive but the rock is excellent. Oh by the way free camping there.
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victor999
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Thank you, Harkless, for posting about this location. It definitely sounds like it would make for a fun weekend, or even a day trip. It's always nice to learn about crags in the SW PA area.
Can you tell us if there are trad climbs between the 5.4 and 5.7 grades?
Cheers,
Victor
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microbarn
Mar 13, 2007, 11:50 AM
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Bill, I don't think anyone made it out to lisbon on Sunday.
I had 4 other people confirm.
Jim decided to take a walk instead.
Drew had to pack/prepare for a trip.
Brian is injured and was only coming to hang out and slackline. He also forgot about daylight savings time.
Son doesn't know how to lead belay.
So, I called it off that morning when I found all of this out.
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microbarn
Mar 13, 2007, 11:52 AM
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based on my understanding of Mark's post in the other thread. This area is NOT to be parked at. I have parked there 2 times without a problem, but he received a note mentioning towing and whatnot.
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microbarn
Mar 13, 2007, 11:55 AM
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You can set up two anchors from trees without any problem. Everything else is fickle to set up. The very top of most climbs is choss. So, you have to rap from trees down to the anchors. Then you have to setup the climb and rap the rest of the way.
There is a bolted ?5.1? climb there though. So, if you want to practice before the lead. You can do that.
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microbarn
Mar 13, 2007, 12:05 PM
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Harkless,
There are a surprising number of northwest pa climbers here. Bill (screen name charley) is their most verbal representative. :)
I would love to try out the new area. You mention camping, but is there enough that you want to spend 2 days there? A 2 hour drive would be OK for a day trip.
Thanks for the heads up,
Dan
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microbarn
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Sorry for all the posts. RC.com messed up on alerting me about this thread. I didn't know anyone had posted. Then, when they let me know there was a new post, I was taken to page two.
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victor999
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ahhh.... the ever so memorable "page 2" of the WPA forum. the nostalgia is overwhelming me right now.
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truello
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microbarn wrote: based on my understanding of Mark's post in the other thread. This area is NOT to be parked at. I have parked there 2 times without a problem, but he received a note mentioning towing and whatnot.
I agree that this is the spot and wish I had known prior to. I didn't know there was parking up the dirt (mud) road, or is it just pulling off on the side?
Tim's climbpa site has parking listed back the Posted road I mentioned. Is it OK to go back there? I try to avoid Posted signs so thats why I parked in the spot mentioned above.
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microbarn
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truello wrote: I agree that this is the spot and wish I had known prior to. I didn't know there was parking up the dirt (mud) road, or is it just pulling off on the side? Tim's climbpa site has parking listed back the Posted road I mentioned. Is it OK to go back there? I try to avoid Posted signs so thats why I parked in the spot mentioned above.
Yes, there is pull off parking up the posted road as noted on Tim's directions. Outside of that I know what you know. I have the same doubts and hesitations on parking in posted areas.
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markc
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microbarn wrote: based on my understanding of Mark's post in the other thread. This area is NOT to be parked at. I have parked there 2 times without a problem, but he received a note mentioning towing and whatnot.
To clear up at bit, I've parked before the pull-off repeatedly. There was only a note left once when there wasn't sufficient space for a local to park. If I lived there, I would have felt put out, too. If you park there, I can only suggest leaving room for locals. If others arrive at the crag, it may be good to check where they parked.
I've never had any problems pulling off the side of the road by the trail. That said, I make sure to get well off the road, which I wouldn't do if I didn't drive a Jeep.
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this is the better part of the email response minus directions and my contact info that I have been sending to people. For more details please contact me directly.
This is an area I have been using for about 18 years. I used to run an adventure program for a church camp that used the area. The area is probably a solid 2 hours from Pittsburgh. There is substantially more than the mill and no one uses it much except for primarily myself, my friends, and the camp that I worked at. It is mainly top rope and trad, no sport. The height is an average of 35-65 feet. It is a compact sandstone, not brittle so need to worry about pro popping on you. Another nice thing is that rock does not get wet and slimy like the mill has a habit of doing. As for the difficulty level you are talking anywhere from very begginner stuff up to something that will challenge just about anyone(definately alot of trad in the 5.4-5.7 to answer the one question). It would be hard pressed for me to give you a number of routes but I would say at least a weeks worth if not more. Definatly more than say Coopers when it comes to ropeable climbs. Sorry don't have any topos but if you want some pics give me a email or message. You can camp right at the rocks just pick a piece of ground and go for it (There is plenty of room for as many as you can bring to answer the other question). If you would like a someone to go along with you I am fairly available. I am a doctor so my schedule is fairly unpredictable but I can usually get free for some time. If you have any other questions feel free to email me. Don't hesitate to ask anymore questions.
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charley
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Hey doc, as I mentioned in the other thread, more ppl climb there than you know. If it is the place towards arensville from green oaks anyhow. I have been going up with friends from pburgh and warren a cpl times a year for the last two or three years. I almost never see other climbers there. I would like to go sometime with someone who knows it better. We are just learning our way around. I know there is more rock then we have climbed.
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HarklessDO
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Charley that may be the same place. I had never heard of arensville prior. But that is in the same general area. So it may be the same place. As you said people do use it. It is just highly underused. You may be down at a less used area of the rock but tough to say. Couldn't remember if you were one person that I sent out a email to today to give more exact info on location and my contact info. I am always willing to take anyone out and show you around to the best places. PS no need to call me doc, John works very well.
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charley
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Maybe we can get together as it warms up, John. I don't usually go up there until a friend who works at A.N.F. gets back for the summer. I do like coopers though.
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HarklessDO
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Sounds like a plan. I like coopers as well tried it for the first time last fall. The rock look and feel are very similar.
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WOW... from all the posts you can sure tell the season is starting up again... lol... thanks truello, for the map, I can see exactly where you mean...gotta love google... I'm hoping the hike into Breakneck is easier from this direction as I'll have my climbing pack on my back and my 10-month-old strapped to my chest... my wife and babysitter (climbing-sitter?, usually my mom) are not that strong of a hikers and carrying either one would be really tough for them up that hill from the creek... thanks again guys...
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almost forgot... though I know there are many other places to climb and you guys dont know me from adam... I have secured a hunting pass for climbing at Krahlick... I am familiar with a lot of the guys from the hunting club that have leased the land and any one of them is willing to let me borrow their pass.... if any of you are interested, I'll try and post ahead of time when I'm heading up to the rocks, I'll definitely welcome the added company...
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microbarn
Mar 14, 2007, 2:58 PM
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While, the parking spot is different.....I have always hiked the same way in. If anything, the hike is longer. Maybe the others found another path to hike in on.
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Penn Climbers,
A Mass Climber has a question for you:
If one were to, say, move to the Hershey area, where would one climb?
(I know that's not exactly Western Penn, but you all would know better than I.)
Thanks!
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charley
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acherry, there is a reg pa climbers thread where you might get more help. Hershey is in the eastern to central part of the state West virginia is closer to us.
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microbarn
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I agree with charley. The other regular PA climber's thread would be a better place to ask. They know that area better. I know there are multiple good bouldering areas around there. Governor Stables is now closed, but that would have been an option. I think haycock mountain is another area.
Outside of bouldering, you will be pretty hard up to find anything. If the other thread doesn't have better answers send me a PM. My sister went to Elizabethtown college and she knows some climbers that went to the college as well. Maybe I can get their emails or something for better answers.
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Hey,
I'm actually from eastern Pa so i can give you a hand. Chickies Rock (trad) ,Governor Dick-Mt. Gretna(bouldering) are both petty close to Hershey. Then if you are willing to drive more there is Haycock(God's gift to Pa boulders), Birdsboro (a quarry with some good sport routes). Also, there are 2 climbing gyms in reading(thats about and hour from Hershey.) If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.
Matt
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I live right outside of hershey, its not that bad of an area. Chickies is 35 min away, Boxcar 35 min north, Poles steeple and all the micheaux climbs (shaffers, white rocks etc.) are about an hour south. There is also a small indoor gym (paramount) in campbelltown, 5 min from hershey. PM me if you want anymore info or directions to the different spots.
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Anyone climb RimRock or Jake's Rocks outside of Warren, PA?
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I was about to "call the bluff", but you are correct. It is 2.5 hours from hershey to cumberland. That is a possible day trip.
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How are The Narrows? They look great but I rarely hear of anyone ever talk about them.
Is it mostly trad or does it have sport/tr opportunities?
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There is a lot of trad there, but there are also a lot of toprope opportunities. I don't believe there is any sport routes there (but I could be wrong).
charley has an FA there.
I plan on climbing there a lot more this year.
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I could be wrong, but it is pretty much just trad. The top ropes I am aware of would be a real pain to set up. It is easier to lead up to it.
The place is really great. I definitely recommend you try it out.
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i hear the Narrows is a little chossy, but I could be wrong. I've also heard that there are good routes there. What do you think, Dan? You've been there before.
There's a 90% chance that we'll be heading down to the NRG this weekend. Probably staying at Chestnut, climbing the Bridge/Junkyard area.
Just keeping my fingers crossed that the isolated thunderstorms stay far away from us.
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The area I was climbing at had zero choss. Though, the majority of the wall was further down. It was mostly multipitch further down. I think the area I was at had the most traffic. It had some of the easiest routes, and it was the closest portion to the parking.
I came down with a really bad head cold last night. So, I don't know what I will be up for this weekend. Most likely, I will try to stay local since I could back out depending on how I feel. Is anyone else going to be around?
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I spent Thursday through Sunday at the Red River Gorge this past weekend with a buddy so I'll probably stick local this weekend. However the weather doesn't look fantastic. Going to try to get out Thursday, but every day this weekend states "shower possible".
Maybe I'll do something unrelated to climbing for once...
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Cronicle, good to see you again. You were mentioned in convo this past wknd.
Victor, chestnut may not be open yet. We stayed at rodgers this weknd. It poured rain on fri. but we went out and did some aid climbing. My first exp. with aid. I liked it. Sat. it snowed all dam day so we hiked a little. It was cold both nites. We went to endless on sun. We found some dry rock but alot was wet and the ground in places was like cowshit.
The narrows is mostly trad. No sport that I know of. The kiddyland area is easy to set up tr's. It is also the shortest climbs. You can set up tr's further up but you must be willing to set up a tr. with two ropes or maybe with one sixty metre. There are some easier trad climbs in kiddyland you could lead and set up tr's on harder climbs. The hike to the top is not easy so top roping is not easy. Trad is the best way to go. That is one of the reasons it is not real popular.
I am talking seneca or lisbon with marlene. It is calling for rain on sat. at both.
Ya'll have a great time and I'll post when we decide where.
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I've been watching the thread, but didn't have anything constructive to add during the winter. Right now I'm getting ready for the trip to Red Rocks in April with Nate. We're going in style, renting an RV for the 10 days and taking a babysitter. Actually with the little ones, the RV is almost a necessity.
Right now I'm looking at closing on a house in the next couple weeks. A couple acres with a stream running through it. Nicest feature is the barn!!! I'm already planning a 30 foot climbing wall inside. No more rain'd out weekends at the Mills.
I definitely want to get in some solid trad climbing before heading west. The winter wasn't too forgiving in terms of trad climbing and I couldn't travel south as much as I wanted, so I've dropped a couple of grades.
I have to work Saturday night, but I would be down for a day trip somewhere on Saturday. (Mills, Lisbon, Seneca, Coopers) Worse case I'll be at the Climbing Wall.
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I'm sure it'll change after all of this nice weather, but we stopped at Cooper's on the way back from Red River just to check it out (neither of us had been there) and there had to be 8+ inches of snow on the ground. People were cross country skiing.
We just left because after 3 nights of camping in subfreezing temps we didn't really feel like trekking through snow.
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Thanks for the heads-up, Charlie. Worst case scenario = we shell out the bucks for one nite at the motel.
Even if it rains at the New, I know of a few places that stay dry. But my gut tells me that the weather just might be OK.
Re: Cooper's rock and snow-- Cooper's is at a much higher elevation, so I would imagine that they still have snow, just like the Laurel Ridge areas still have a little snow.
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charley
Mar 22, 2007, 7:48 PM
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I will be going to lisbon sunday and meeting four others so stop on by.
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microbarn
Mar 22, 2007, 8:24 PM
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I just heard from 2 of my regular climbing buddies....they are heading down to Woodland Walls on Sunday.
I think woodland takes longer to dry out, and my cold is still lingering today. So, I am wavering about whether I will go, and which direction I will travel.
So, don't count on me being there, but I appreciate the heads up Bill.
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