I made the poll cause I thought it was interesting, yet here I am again with someone calling me noob.
Obviously I think it's interesting, too, which is why I'm posting.
Anyway, I wonder why you think I'm calling you a noob? I never said anything like that. I said your posts read like someone who hasn't spent much time pushing herself out of her comfort zone. And didn't you confirm as much?
I can only risk falls now in carefully controlled situations. So climbing at my limit means something quite different than it did 10, 20, 30 years ago
Cheers DMT
When you get really old (I've got 10+ years on DMT) its even more then not wanting to risk a fall. There are certain moves - dynos, cross throughs, etc - that hurt when I do them and hurt more the next day. I'll save those for Gabe's the sh*t's on the line scenerio.
But those type of moves I equate with "just barely making it at my limit". Style - to me - means doing moves that may be strenuous, may be committing (Gabe's scenerio) but ones that I can do without it hurting.
Succeeding on a hard climb often requires the climber to cycle through episodic oscillations- they must fluctuate between sets of meticulously controlled moves that are characterized by clever body English and the conservation of energy followed by, and insanely punctuated with, passages that mandate animal go- for- broke effort. The harder the grade, the requirements for both precise technique and brute effort increase. Climbing at your personal maximal difficulty level has its own rewards, although it may not be beautiful.