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Fshizzle got me thinking.

Did I just say that? :lol: ANyway, he's right. It's a rack dammit! Not a Trad Rack. How can you make lewd double entendre jokes when you say "Hey Baby, nice Trad Rack." Lame!

So, is it a rack?
Or a Trad Rack?


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Just wondering... if I participate in your poll, does it mean I'm lame?


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hehe, there's so much more!!

Random climber dialogue:
"quit fiddlin' with yer nuts and climb!"
"sorry, I keep grabbin the wrong one. This ones too small, next one's to big..."
2nd climber cleaning the route:
"this friggin nut is stuck in the crack, I think I'm gonna have to leave it there."
Next party, upon finding the nut:
"Cool, free booty!"

or

"Don't ya hate it when your goin' for the next move and one of your nuts gets wedged in the crack?"

It sure is a good thing we climbers no what we're talking about, cause this stuff aint cheap, so how else can we soften the blow? Lame double-edged wise cracks are our only relief!

I mean, a good size rack will run you at LEAST 3 grand!

I'm lame.


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A couple draws and a gri-gri is not a rack.


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A couple draws and a gri-gri is not a rack.

Excellent point! It is a sign that you have transcended adolescent gear love, and have removed the unnecessary trappings.

Sport climbing is so zen!


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fshizzle is wrong, but its entitled.

I can carry a rack of draws. Done it many times. Here's how...

take a gear sling and clip some draws to it. Now, the difficult part: put that gear sling over your head and one shoulder, (gates IN) and viola...

a rack of draws, whic is anything but trad.

Try it, one of the easiest magic tricks I know!

DMT


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fshizzle is wrong, but its entitled.

I can carry a rack of draws. Done it many times. Here's how...

take a gear sling and clip some draws to it. Now, the difficult part: put that gear sling over your head and one shoulder, (gates IN) and viola...

a rack of draws, whic is anything but trad.

Try it, one of the easiest magic tricks I know!

DMT

Wrong!


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Oh man. What the heck do I call my gear on my sling over my shoulder when I left a hook on it and maybe a few quickdraws? A trad-aid-sport rack?

Of course I just wear the gear for show and just top rope everything so it's really a poser rack.

Dave


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a rack of draws, whic is anything but trad.

Try it, one of the easiest magic tricks I know!

DMT

What if you are doing Crest Jewel? You only need draws, but it is anything but sport.

Ah, the mystery thickens.


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So was our business name all wrong?! Crap, back to the drawing board, it's time to start over.

www.Rack.com was taken and so was www.NiceRack.com. We tried for www.BiggestRackEver.com but that was also taken. It sucks when your potential business name is porn related.


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it's a rack.

I'll get the rack, you get the rope.
don't drop the rack.
what rack will we need for this route?
that rack wracked me in the face when I stopped.
we'll need two racks.
how's your rack.
nice rack.

rack, rack, rack, rack...


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Well...one could have an AID RACK!!!

So the argument is over...
If you have a rack (however puny and pathetic it is) you MUST define what type of rack it is...to define the purpose of the rack...LOL


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a rack of draws, whic is anything but trad.

Try it, one of the easiest magic tricks I know!

DMT

What if you are doing Crest Jewel? You only need draws, but it is anything but sport.

Ah, the mystery thickens.

I didn't say that rendered it a sport rack. Only that it wasn't trad. Nothing to do with the route being climbed really.

DMT


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If you have a rack (however puny and pathetic it is) you MUST define what type of rack it is...to define the purpose of the rack...LOL

there is no need to define something that is already defined by the nature of the route. My partner and myself know what we are talking about.

If im on Crest Jewel i have the rack for it, on inverted staircase I have the rack for it, on Super-Overbolt I have the rack for it, or the Shield I have the rack for it.

Case closed.


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Fshizzle got me thinking.

Did I just say that? :lol: ANyway, he's right. It's a rack dammit! Not a Trad Rack. How can you make lewd double entendre jokes when you say "Hey Baby, nice Trad Rack."

You have to go to Plan B: "Look at the jugs on that route (and the holds are big, too)."

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So, is it a rack?
Or a Trad Rack?

It's just a rack. "Trad rack" is redundant because it implies there is such a thing as a "sport rack," which is a contradiction in terms. Free climbing rack is a legitimate phrase, though, as there is a distinction between it and an aid rack.

HTH

-Jay


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I can carry a rack of draws.

You can carry a rack of anything that you can rack. Rack, after all, is a real English word. But the generally accepted meaning of the climbing-specific term rack is a collection of trad or aid gear, not a rack of draws. Sport rack is thus a contradiction in terms, or at least sounds odd, because it appears to be a contradictory use of the climbing-specific rack, whereas "rack of draws" is a normal use of the generic English word rack.

-Jay


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if i was to say rack, i'd personally be refering to my trad gear

if i was to say alpine/aid/ice/etc you get the picture...


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This is my fave-

"I need to go to the ATM machine."

Automated Teller Machine Machine?

-pip


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Potato---Poh tah to....This is a Lame post.


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"Psst, hey, check out her rack!"

"Niiice... Do you think it's trad?"


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Ahh, let the sport climbers have their rack.
I'll take my gear sling and all my gear and rack it up before I climb


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Hmm...can't tell whether she's wearing a sport bra or a trad bra...

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Potato---Poh tah to....This is a Lame post.

You're right. The thread, on the other hand, is rather entertaining.

-Jay


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OK, so where does the word 'rack' come from anyway?
I can guess, but any etymologists here to enlighten why a bunch of biners and slings and nuts are called a 'rack'?


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its just a rack since there is no such thing as a "sport rack" biners, quickdraws, trad draws, slings, etc dont count as rack items. the rack is only protection and then of course the biners attached to them. the other stuff is just basics. like if I asked what to bring for a rack on a certain climb I would be refering to only the pro.


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its just a rack since there is no such thing as a "sport rack" biners, quickdraws, trad draws, slings, etc dont count as rack items. the rack is only protection and then of course the biners attached to them. the other stuff is just basics. like if I asked what to bring for a rack on a certain climb I would be refering to only the pro.

Dude, you totally just made that up.

Runners are a key part of any rack. :P

And I still hate the term 'trad draw.' :x


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a while back i was scared and confused and i ended up with my friends nuts in my mouth...

yes dirty rack and nut jokes are a huge a part of our culture... id like to keep it that way...


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OK, so where does the word 'rack' come from anyway?
I can guess, but any etymologists here to enlighten why a bunch of biners and slings and nuts are called a 'rack'?

One doesn't have to be an etymologist to figure this one out. It's called a rack because most climbers carry their gear on racked on a gear sling.

-Jay


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Well, we know that All racks are NOT created equal. Anything more than a harness full and it's just dead weight.


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a rack is whats in your backpack....

there's sport racks (hahaha)
trad racks
aid racks
ice racks
alpine racks
'light' racks
[ insert area's name ] racks
expedition sized road trip racks
old skool racks
roof racks
etc


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"can i see your nuts"
"no"


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A couple draws and a gri-gri is not a rack.

Excellent point! It is a sign that you have transcended adolescent gear love, and have removed the unnecessary trappings.

Sport climbing is so zen!

Call me a fetishist, but a couple of draws just do not do it for me... Racks, however, are so enchanting in their variety. Minimal rack, old school rack, spoiled-rich-californian-climber rack. Conservative all-BD-cams rack... Then kinky racks like hexes-and-nuts-only rack, or some exotic home-made-crap rack. A couple of tricams or a bigbro can add a new twist too...


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A couple draws and a gri-gri is not a rack.

Excellent point! It is a sign that you have transcended adolescent gear love, and have removed the unnecessary trappings.

Sport climbing is so zen!

Call me a fetishist, but a couple of draws just do not do it for me...

:shock:
I don't think you've been very honest with Jay. :P

(just jokin' with ya.) 8^)

Although, rumor has it you've gotten him out of the choss and up plugging cams? Say it ain't so Jay! :P


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A couple draws and a gri-gri is not a rack.

Excellent point! It is a sign that you have transcended adolescent gear love, and have removed the unnecessary trappings.

Sport climbing is so zen!

Call me a fetishist, but a couple of draws just do not do it for me...

:shock:
I don't think you've been very honest with Jay. :P

(just jokin' with ya.) 8^)

Although, rumor has it you've gotten him out of the choss and up plugging cams? Say it ain't so Jay! :P

She's gotten me to go trad climbing a few times, though on our most recent trad day, I elected to just sleep, while she wrestled the off-widths. Anyway, Anna has been on fire in the sport climbing arena lately, having rp'ed her first two 11a's in one day, rp'ing her first 11b in 3 tries about 2 weeks after that, and then flashing an 11b about a week later. She'll be hanging the draws for me in no time!

-Jay


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Nice sends! Nothing like a good redpointing frenzy.

I especially like it where you feel so good and are climbing so well, that you're sure the climbs are featherbagged. Then come back a few months later and get the smackdown.


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You left off Stinger Rack


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Sport rack:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=38090

Trad Rack:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=38089

Any questions?
YIKES!


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Sport and trad rack???

I think not, with that belly it must be an aid climber!!! :D :D







(Just playin'! :wink: )


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Wow. You're right again Caughtinsideorwhatever. This post is lame. You have a habit of that don't you?


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Wow. You're right again Caughtinsideorwhatever. This post is lame. You have a habit of that don't you?

Hey look, I've got a stalker! :D


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Wow. You're right again Caughtinsideorwhatever. This post is lame. You have a habit of that don't you?

Hey look, I've got a stalker! :D

Don't encourage him.


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