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overlord
Nov 19, 2006, 9:34 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: It is my strong belief that the most attractive ability for a single guy is 11c sport, 10b trad, 12a gym, and V5. Above or below this number and he's "nice but just not boyfriend material" damn, this thread is bringing out all the male lurkers in the ladies' room, I guess. Angry, i could not agree more with the above statement. And why do so many women hate crack climbing? cute, single, and want to take me crack climbing? i'll be road tripping as of january.  PS my attractive grades are above angry's angry list
maybe he was projecting... you know, to put hes grades onto your list
and, no, not all climbing chicks are taken.
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angry
Nov 19, 2006, 3:19 PM
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In reply to: cute, single, and want to take me crack climbing? i'll be road tripping as of january. PS my attractive grades are above angry's angry list
Single male who onsights 5.12 trad, owns 60 cams, and enjoys long bushwalks in the wilderness seeks single woman who doesn't hate crack climbing. Has been known to liberally use terms like take, homo, and glitter balls.
A true dislike of sport climbing is a plus.
Shit, that could be for me or camhead...I call front door!!!
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clausti
Nov 19, 2006, 3:23 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: cute, single, and want to take me crack climbing? i'll be road tripping as of january. PS my attractive grades are above angry's angry list Single male who onsights 5.12 trad, owns 60 cams, and enjoys long bushwalks in the wilderness seeks single woman who doesn't hate crack climbing. Has been known to liberally use terms like take, homo, and glitter balls. A true dislike of sport climbing is a plus. Shit, that could be for me or camhead...I call front door!!!
you know, there might be ladies who like both crack climbing and sport climbing, eh?
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camhead
Nov 19, 2006, 3:30 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: cute, single, and want to take me crack climbing? i'll be road tripping as of january. PS my attractive grades are above angry's angry list Single male who onsights 5.12 trad, owns 60 cams, and enjoys long bushwalks in the wilderness seeks single woman who doesn't hate crack climbing. Has been known to liberally use terms like take, homo, and glitter balls. A true dislike of sport climbing is a plus. Shit, that could be for me or camhead...I call front door!!! you know, there might be ladies who like both crack climbing and sport climbing, eh?
This just got interesting. Angry has more cams than me. But I like sport climbing. And I live five minutes from Castleton Tower.
Gimme a shout if you are coming out Moab-way, Clausti.
And Angry, green-camalot mayhem this weekend?
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htotsu
Nov 19, 2006, 3:34 PM
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In reply to: just a little tongue in cheek humor. her reply seemed so emphatic that it sent me off on a non-assumption kick. angry may have gotten my brand of humor there. Besides, women/girls who climb hard and are single are single by choice. There's no other way to explain it rationally really.
OK, first of all, if you're going to tell jokes you think that the guys are more likely to get than the ladies, then what the hell are you doing posting in the ladies room?
Second, climbing hard is now an automatic pass for finding a good guy? Or for being a desirable woman? Where to even begin with that one? Just because you would be interested in a woman who climbs hard, what makes you think she would be interested in you?
Good lord. We can't stop you from lurking, but seriously, it would be great if you would try to be less insulting.
(editing to add I posted this because there are women who will not bother posting questions for the other ladies if they feel they're going to have to put up with responses from guys that are... shall we say, unhelpful)
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xgretax
Nov 20, 2006, 3:02 AM
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I usually don't post up in these types of forums, but aw hell...Camhead, Angry...pathetic. sad. wtf are you two doing trying to pawn yourselves off in the ladies room? Sluts. Sorry Paul, but I think you've earned yourself a cockpunch...see ya on thursday and prepare the boys for some pain. And mister pissed off wetsuit, you too will face the same fate if you happen to be around.
continue...i have nothing of substance to add to the actual subject at hand because we all know deep down inside grades are complete bullshit.
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bizarrodrinker
Nov 20, 2006, 1:20 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: _snip_ All women who climb 5.11 have a boyfriend. no i don't.
Well you damn well should.
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clausti
Nov 20, 2006, 2:46 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: _snip_ All women who climb 5.11 have a boyfriend. no i don't. Well you damn well should.
well, hell, why dont we just rectify that just for you??
(or were you wanting to be listed for candidacy with camhead and angry for consideration by the multiple amazing females already represented in this thread?)
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bizarrodrinker
Nov 20, 2006, 3:26 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: _snip_ All women who climb 5.11 have a boyfriend. no i don't. Well you damn well should. well, hell, why dont we just rectify that just for you?? (or were you wanting to be listed for candidacy with camhead and angry for consideration by the multiple amazing females already represented in this thread?)
Nah, I've got a gf (not quite as strong as those listed here, but she has been climbing just over a year and already hit some stout V3s).
I will keep everyone posted though. haha!
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comet
Nov 20, 2006, 4:49 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: It is my strong belief that the most attractive ability for a single guy is 11c sport, 10b trad, 12a gym, and V5. Above or below this number and he's "nice but just not boyfriend material" damn, this thread is bringing out all the male lurkers in the ladies' room, I guess. Angry, i could not agree more with the above statement. And why do so many women hate crack climbing?
I like crack climbing WAY more than sport clipping. Where are you finding these crack-hating women?
In reply to: PS my attractive grades are above angry's angry list
I had the same thought, and I don't lead 5.11.
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aimeerose
Nov 20, 2006, 5:23 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: _snip_ All women who climb 5.11 have a boyfriend. Hell, I've had a boyfriend since I could climb 5.8 and had to beat them away since I could climb 5.10 (and I'm not that pretty, just friendly and enthusiastic about climbing)! Now I'm married. I just have to try not to make my hubby jealous with my myriad of male partners (for trad climbing, he doesn't plug gear). Course now that I'm pregnant, I don't have quite the same level of attention, which is nice, easier on the relationship. Anyways, in response to the original post, I could care less what grade my SO climbs. It's fun when we can work the same routes sport climbing and same boulder problems, but he usually gets them faster than me and moves on. As for trad, it's a no go with him, so I definately climb harder than him on gear, but he's still sexy!
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cracklover
Nov 21, 2006, 12:03 AM
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At the risk of getting one of those cockpunches that's going around, I'm going to state what I think is an obvious fact: There's still a little sexism left in most of us.
Many folks want a relationship that's equal in terms of respect, love, compassion, and doing the dishes, but the gal still gets warm fuzzies every once in a while by feeling like she's got a big strapping man, and the guy still gets a secret shot of joy from being able to pick up his gal and carry her easily to their love-nest.
I think this carries over a little bit into climbing. Many guys will feel great about climbing with a stronger woman, but when they start dating, he might feel just a little awkward about not being "the man", and she might feel a little nervous about "showing him up".
That's one piece of it.
Here's another piece: Simple statistics. Because there are perhaps twice as many male climbers as female, if we assume that women and men are inherently equal in ability, on average, the best male climbers will be slightly better than the best female climbers in a given population. This demographic reality will naturally lead to a cultural norm of behaviour. Of course individuals are much more complicated than simple social pairings based on, say, strongest male and strongest female must bond, but that will certainly be one among many elements.
Finally, I think most people like to have a partner who's stronger than them, at least at times. So being strong is a plus.
Combine the subtle sexism, the demographic realities, and the social benefit of being a strong climber, and I think you wind up with a number of self-reinforcing elements that push stronger men to partner with slightly less strong women.
Now pardon me while I go put on my steel cup.
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Nov 21, 2006, 1:32 AM
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In reply to: hey shorty (highjack here), just picked myself up a pair of head monster 75's at an outrageous price 250 bucks. yeehah. let it snow. over 75 cm. at the hill!!!
CAD 250, I'm guessing. Fine, just rub in it.
I jumped on 21 different pairs of skis (mainly GS race sticks and fat powder boards) over the weekend at a demo program. Send me your e-mail address if you're interested in the results, although it might take a few days to put my notes in order.
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snoangel
Nov 21, 2006, 3:15 AM
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In reply to: At the risk of getting one of those cockpunches that's going around, I'm going to state what I think is an obvious fact: There's still a little sexism left in most of us. Many folks want a relationship that's equal in terms of respect, love, compassion, and doing the dishes, but the gal still gets warm fuzzies every once in a while by feeling like she's got a big strapping man, and the guy still gets a secret shot of joy from being able to pick up his gal and carry her easily to their love-nest. I think this carries over a little bit into climbing. Many guys will feel great about climbing with a stronger woman, but when they start dating, he might feel just a little awkward about not being "the man", and she might feel a little nervous about "showing him up". That's one piece of it. Here's another piece: Simple statistics. Because there are perhaps twice as many male climbers as female, if we assume that women and men are inherently equal in ability, on average, the best male climbers will be slightly better than the best female climbers in a given population. This demographic reality will naturally lead to a cultural norm of behaviour. Of course individuals are much more complicated than simple social pairings based on, say, strongest male and strongest female must bond, but that will certainly be one among many elements. Finally, I think most people like to have a partner who's stronger than them, at least at times. So being strong is a plus. Combine the subtle sexism, the demographic realities, and the social benefit of being a strong climber, and I think you wind up with a number of self-reinforcing elements that push stronger men to partner with slightly less strong women. Now pardon me while I go put on my steel cup. GO
I've got to agree. I know, personally, I enjoy the feeling of a guy who can protect me, physically. This carries over into climbing. Yet, I also don't want him to be so much better than I am that he does not ever want to climb with me. That being said, when he wants to climb hard, he should go out with the boys, because I know I tend to climb harder when I'm with my girls. When I'm climbing with a guy I'm dating, I think I "play" the weaker sex unknowingly. It's kind of weird.
Funny thing though, if I'm snowboarding, all those "rules" go right out the window. Go figure. 
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xgretax
Nov 21, 2006, 5:13 PM
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Let me clarify the why camhead and angry qualify for a cockpunch:
1) grotesque spraylordism in order to
2) slut themselves out in the ladies room.
that is all. you can put away your steel cup. i suppose they can as well because my sarcas-ometer is reading off the charts.
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clee03m
Nov 21, 2006, 10:29 PM
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In reply to: At the risk of getting one of those cockpunches that's going around, I'm going to state what I think is an obvious fact: There's still a little sexism left in most of us. You asked for the cockpunch, so here it goes. You mean sexism or insecurity or whatever you call it is left in you, cracklover. I climb better than my husband. I make more money than my husband. I work longer hours than my husband. Ok. He does beat me most of the time at racketball, but the point is, unless a guy has a need to compensate, I find it hard to believe that in this day and age, stronger climber guy/weaker climber girl concept is really true.
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cracklover
Nov 21, 2006, 11:20 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: At the risk of getting one of those cockpunches that's going around, I'm going to state what I think is an obvious fact: There's still a little sexism left in most of us. You asked for the cockpunch, so here it goes. You mean sexism or insecurity or whatever you call it is left in you, cracklover. I climb better than my husband. I make more money than my husband. I work longer hours than my husband. Ok. He does beat me most of the time at racketball, but the point is, unless a guy has a need to compensate, I find it hard to believe that in this day and age, stronger climber guy/weaker climber girl concept is really true.
Well, I can't speak for you and your social group, but among the coupled climbers I know, it's the rule, not the exception, that the guy is a stronger climber than the girl. Now if you want to argue that I'm mistaken as to *why* that's the case, and you have a better theory, fine - give me your best argument, I could be wrong. But if you want to argue that it's not the case at all, among the vast majority of the climbers I've met all over the US, (and a few in Europe) you're mistaken.
I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with you and your husband! But the fact that your relationship doesn't match the norm does not invalidate the norm.
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Not-so-strong climber girl seeks Strong climber boy!
Must have strong calloused hands, own a full rack and be willing to pull my ass through a difficult crux, if necessary. Your patience will be rewarded.
Yep, that pretty much sums it up.  
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caughtinside
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In reply to: In reply to: At the risk of getting one of those cockpunches that's going around, I'm going to state what I think is an obvious fact: There's still a little sexism left in most of us. You asked for the cockpunch, so here it goes. You mean sexism or insecurity or whatever you call it is left in you, cracklover. I climb better than my husband. I make more money than my husband. I work longer hours than my husband. Ok. He does beat me most of the time at racketball, but the point is, unless a guy has a need to compensate, I find it hard to believe that in this day and age, stronger climber guy/weaker climber girl concept is really true. You must not know many climbers/climber couples. Because it's totally true.
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Um, yep (IMHO), yep, yep (plus spare set of ice tools), yep (if necessary). feeling frisky again, huh?
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camhead
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wow, this thread is getting even more shameless.
I regret to say that xgretax is no longer coming down to my house for thanksgiving, so no cockpunches for me!
And I'm not sure, snoangel... I'm still not how I feel about dating girls that are significantly less strong, either. All I know is that, after I broke up with a "date climbing partner" of a few years, my own climbing really improved. Dating strong climber girls is WAY cooler.
I guess it all comes down to what you mean by "rewarded."
(camhead ducks cockpunch)
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so i was thinking about some stuff that went down this summer, and i have a question to toss out...
have you ever seriously projected something with your significant other? like, this is JUST within both of your reach to redpoint..... maybe. and its HARD.
any drama ensue? i was projecting a route this summer with my (now ex) boyfriend, who is somewhat stronger than me sport climbing but is a lot taller. (6'0 to my 5'3) and of course the crux is a reach for me and a flexibility challenge for him. we'll just say some drama ensued. it doesnt help that this route is one that stays perfectly dry in the rain, and... you guessed it.... it was raining.
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xgretax
Nov 22, 2006, 4:06 PM
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The cockpunches are still on, Paul. And the longer you go without one, the more you'll end up getting. Kind of like interest. Maybe i'll be kind and arrange for Dylan to give you one. Anyhow, i'm really bummed we can't come down. i'll be waiting for the eggs.
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snoangel
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In reply to: wow, this thread is getting even more shameless. I regret to say that xgretax is no longer coming down to my house for thanksgiving, so no cockpunches for me! And I'm not sure, snoangel... I'm still not how I feel about dating girls that are significantly less strong, either. All I know is that, after I broke up with a "date climbing partner" of a few years, my own climbing really improved. Dating strong climber girls is WAY cooler. I guess it all comes down to what you mean by "rewarded." (camhead ducks cockpunch)
KERPOW! Just kidding. Actually, as I had mentioned earlier, I prefer to date a guy who is a better climber than I, although not by too much.
What I've found is that my climbing "partners" and I tend to excel in different areas. My last "partner" for example, was a fearless trad leader and loved crack climbing. I, on the other hand, am not a very good crack climber, but I would second him on anything, even if sometimes it was hard for me. Switch to face climbs, and our abilities are much more equally matched. He definitely had more strength, but I had better footwork and we could work on the same climbs.
And of course, I would never want to climb with him exclusively. No matter how hard my "partner" can climb, I seem to always climb harder when I'm climbing with other women.
And as far as the rewards go...let's just say I've been instrumental on a few redpoints.
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