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snoangel
Nov 22, 2006, 5:06 PM
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In reply to: Um, yep (IMHO), yep, yep (plus spare set of ice tools), yep (if necessary). feeling frisky again, huh?   
Hey Stymi! I miss seeing my quote as your signature. :(
And, yep feeling frisky again. It's one of those things that just comes and goes. I am powerless over the frisky, what can I say.
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kellie
Nov 22, 2006, 5:28 PM
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I prefer to climb with *people* who are better climbers than I; it pushes me to keep up and to get on stuff that I might not otherwise do, and I think I improve faster as a result. I don't care if they're male or female or hot or a potential romantic prospect or someone I would never consider dating in this lifetime---I like to climb with stronger partners. I don't see it as a dating issue but as a climbing issue.
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snoangel
Nov 22, 2006, 5:46 PM
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In reply to: I prefer to climb with *people* who are better climbers than I; it pushes me to keep up and to get on stuff that I might not otherwise do, and I think I improve faster as a result. I don't care if they're male or female or hot or a potential romantic prospect or someone I would never consider dating in this lifetime---I like to climb with stronger partners. I don't see it as a dating issue but as a climbing issue.
I think most people share your sentiments. I know I do. I just think people are responding the way they are based on the OP and topic.
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cracklover
Nov 22, 2006, 7:37 PM
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In reply to: so i was thinking about some stuff that went down this summer, and i have a question to toss out... have you ever seriously projected something with your significant other? like, this is JUST within both of your reach to redpoint..... maybe. and its HARD. any drama ensue? i was projecting a route this summer with my (now ex) boyfriend, who is somewhat stronger than me sport climbing but is a lot taller. (6'0 to my 5'3) and of course the crux is a reach for me and a flexibility challenge for him. we'll just say some drama ensued. it doesnt help that this route is one that stays perfectly dry in the rain, and... you guessed it.... it was raining.
Only once. No drama between us, but there was between she and her boyfriend when she got home.
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clausti
Nov 22, 2006, 8:23 PM
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cracklover...?????
what??
please explain. by "significant other" i mean boyfriend or girlfriend. so the question was have you ever projected something that was hard for both of you with your romantic partner. were you trying to be witty? or were we using diff definition of sig other?
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shorty
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In reply to: by "significant other" i mean boyfriend or girlfriend. so the question was have you ever projected something that was hard for both of you with your romantic partner. were you trying to be witty? or were we using diff definition of sig other?
- boyfriend and girlfriend
- boyfriend, girlfriend, and dog
- boyfriend, girlfriend, dog, and pony
YMMV (depending on each one's redpoint abilities)
I think some many people are over analyzing this issue. What's the most challenging dating scenario:
- a 5.8 climber dating a 5.12 climber
- a 5.8 climber dating one who enjoys scrapbooking
- two 5.11 climbers who hate each other's guts
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clausti
Nov 22, 2006, 9:31 PM
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In reply to: - two 5.11 climbers who hate each other's guts
promise. hehe.
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overlord
Nov 23, 2006, 7:50 AM
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man, thats bad. i really liked claustis sig. it was kinda hypnotic. bring it back
anyway, i know a .14 climber that has a .10 GF. works pretty well. most of the time shes the belay bitch
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bizarrodrinker
Nov 23, 2006, 3:14 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I think some many people are over analyzing this issue. What's the most challenging dating scenario: - a 5.8 climber dating a 5.12 climber - a 5.8 climber dating one who enjoys scrapbooking - two 5.11 climbers who hate each other's guts All of the above.
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camhead
Nov 23, 2006, 3:28 PM
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In reply to: so i was thinking about some stuff that went down this summer, and i have a question to toss out... have you ever seriously projected something with your significant other? like, this is JUST within both of your reach to redpoint..... maybe. and its HARD. any drama ensue? i was projecting a route this summer with my (now ex) boyfriend, who is somewhat stronger than me sport climbing but is a lot taller. (6'0 to my 5'3) and of course the crux is a reach for me and a flexibility challenge for him. we'll just say some drama ensued. it doesnt help that this route is one that stays perfectly dry in the rain, and... you guessed it.... it was raining.
I can't say I've ever been in this situation. My last serious gf, who was also my main climbing partner for a couple years, made it pretty clear that she didn't want to belay me on projects. That was part of whatever compromise we had, and thus I took more of an onsight mentality. Which i still have.
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cracklover
Nov 23, 2006, 5:05 PM
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In reply to: cracklover...????? what??
Yeah, okay, this was not part of some big threesome thing. She was not a significant other.
Fact is, I personally know only one woman who climbs at or above the level I do. Climbed with her once, and the above is what happened.
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vertical_vixen
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Crazy funny...I've climbed with several guys who climb grades lower than me and it can sometimes get a little tricky. If they are self assured and are self motivated without having the need to compete with others, I find it's okay. However, if they are Alpha Macho Men, it can become unpleasant climbing with them.
Dating someone who climbs lower grades than you is perfectly do-able, just as long as they are aware of the hazards, encourage you and know your strengths and weaknesses. My best partners are the ones who know my style and can encourage me in the right way.
Good luck!
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acacongua
Nov 28, 2006, 2:04 PM
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camhead wrote: Gimme a shout if you are coming out Moab-way, Clausti.
Clausti, definitely climb with this guy! I personally taught him the art of soft catches at the Red. He's safe, but he's goofy. He might serenade you too with a little guitar playing. LOL.
Oh, and you both are missing some excellent days at the Red ... 60 degrees and sunny for a 1.5 weeks. I'm skipping work tomorrow.
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clausti
Nov 28, 2006, 4:13 PM
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acacongua wrote: camhead wrote: Gimme a shout if you are coming out Moab-way, Clausti. Clausti, definitely climb with this guy! I personally taught him the art of soft catches at the Red. He's safe, but he's goofy. He might serenade you too with a little guitar playing. LOL. Oh, and you both are missing some excellent days at the Red ... 60 degrees and sunny for a 1.5 weeks. I'm skipping work tomorrow.
oh i plan on it. and if the boy knows how to not let a little lady hit the end of the lead line like a load of lead, all the better. guitars are a plus.
and, concerning weather at the red, i hate you. my days have been and will continue to consist of up at 8 am and running hard till about 2 am till the end of the semester. (posting now cause i'm in class, lol.)
will you be at LRC?
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cracklover
Nov 28, 2006, 4:16 PM
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Oh, and if any women consistently onsight at or above any of the following: 5.10+ trad, 5.12- sport, or V3+ bouldering, you climb harder than me. I like climbing with everyone, not *only* harder climbers, and not *only* women, but if you want to swing by, I'd love to climb with you. Oh, and since I wasn't clear to Clausti before, this is climbing only. Nothing personal, but as for significant other-hood, I'm quite happily taken at the moment.
G
PS - whoops, I think I may have just descended into cock-punch territory again!
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acacongua
Nov 28, 2006, 9:14 PM
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LRC for a comp? No, after a bad accident last year, I've avoided bouldering. I might make a trip to Rocktown soon if I have a competent spotter.
Good luck with classes ... glad I'm not there anymore.
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clausti
Nov 29, 2006, 12:25 AM
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acacongua wrote: LRC for a comp? No, after a bad accident last year, I've avoided bouldering. I might make a trip to Rocktown soon if I have a competent spotter. Good luck with classes ... glad I'm not there anymore.
what's that you said? you want to come party with me at rocktown at new years and then throw down?
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climbsomething
Nov 29, 2006, 8:47 AM
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clausti wrote: acacongua wrote: camhead wrote: Gimme a shout if you are coming out Moab-way, Clausti. Clausti, definitely climb with this guy! I personally taught him the art of soft catches at the Red. He's safe, but he's goofy. He might serenade you too with a little guitar playing. LOL. Oh, and you both are missing some excellent days at the Red ... 60 degrees and sunny for a 1.5 weeks. I'm skipping work tomorrow. oh i plan on it. and if the boy knows how to not let a little lady hit the end of the lead line like a load of lead, all the better. guitars are a plus.
Anyway, yes, it's true, MANY climber couples are stronger guy-weaker girl. Sometimes there is snark to be mined from this, sometimes it just is what it is and nobody cares. I'm in that arrangement. It's not like I enjoy being submissive or like, I totally live in awe of his greatness and toprope-setting abilities. It's just that somebody had to be better and it happens to be him, 90% of the time. I can be aggro and competitive in general, but not with him. I guess one has to know Alex to appreciate his calming zen effect. It's uncanny and definitely something I need! Anyway.
For one, he's not HUGELY stronger than me. Maybe 3 letter grades at most, on sport. Trad and bouldering, we don't take seriously enough to care. I can usually work and get a healthy challenge on routes at his redpoint limit, and climbing drama is usually pretty non-existent. Though I do pout if he won't take me to the gym...
I don't know how many other lopsided climber couples are like this, but anybody who's seen a pissy radboy-miserable belay wench couple at a sport crag knows it's not a universal thing... oh, and ANYBODY who's climbed sport for more than like, a month has seen this dynamic. Period.
I HAVE been the stronger half of the couple before, and again, no biggie. Just as long as the person is safe and willing to let me have my fun on my routes (whether they're the easier ones or not), and, you know, the guy isn't a total asshat by nature, it's all good.
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Nov 29, 2006, 1:43 PM
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climbsomething wrote: and, you know, the guy isn't a total asshat by nature, it's all good.
:)
therein lies the crux
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You know, I don't have a lot of input beyond what's already been said. I'm not a terribly strong climber so if I date a climber or have an interest in a climber odds are good he will be stronger than I am. And I don't mind at all. I believe partners balance each other and both parties have something to offer. As long as respect flows both ways it's all good IMO.
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bizarrodrinker
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I used to be hung up on dating a girl that climbed. Then I dated a one or two, and realized it doesn't make a difference really. Most people, men and women alike, drive me effin crazy if I spend enough time with them. So I have realized its no big thing how strong the girl is. Though I do prefer one that is better than I am for two reasons:
1. I try and model my footwork after women because they do it better. Plain and simple.
2. It is just plain sexy. Of course every woman that climbs is inherently sexy I suppose.
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angry
Nov 29, 2006, 5:22 PM
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It's not that the ladies have so much better footwork than us guys, it's just how cute those little feet are.
Like this, another unasthetic, boring, repetetive crack climb. It's more like ice fishing or bowling in technical challenges. The approach was probably harder. If you look at the cute little girl feet though, suddenly you'd think the climb was worth a damn,
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iamthewallress
Nov 29, 2006, 7:07 PM
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bizarrodrinker wrote: 1. I try and model my footwork after women because they do it better. Plain and simple.
My man's got the purtiest footwork I've ever seen.
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<Danger| MALE Perspective |Danger>
Personally I like a good personallity, but I spend way too much time openning my yap about this line, or that placement, or the time I got scared, so climbers stay, and others don't.
It's nice to have someone that'll stay up with you and tell stories, or talk about places to go and projects to send. If she climbs well that's sweet, if not enthusiasm can make up. Lately I got lucky and managed to seduce one of the best gals in town. She climbs damn near as hard as me and has way more drive to surpass me than I'd have thought possible.
It's refreshing to feel like you're going to be given a run for your money sometimes. Plus the competition is hott, just like that picture above.
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iamthewallress
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Chalkfree...your perspective is hot.
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