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chossmonkey
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artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c  Just wait till you read Trippers opinion.  Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, and we will call it 12b."? You mean 7b right?
I'm going to just start giving everything M grades.
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chossmonkey
May 20, 2008, 10:46 PM
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the_climber wrote: Cross posting from the other thread... This, yes this is how my afternoon is going: the_climber is having a hell of an afternoon! wrote: In other news I was at Canadian Tire at lunch time pricing out some stuff, and walking back to my truck... W T F ! Some punk was reafing on the back window to try and break in to steal my tool bag! Had my cell phone in my hand to call the cops, but fuck he was going at it and of all the people in the parking lot not a dam one of them was doing anything! Nothing! Not so much as a "hey buddy what gives?"! Ran up behind him and checked him into the tailgate. The fucker took a swing at me, so I knocked him the f*ck out! Out cold! One hit! Right the f*ck out! Gave my contact info to the security guy who said he'd handle everything with the cops... expecting a call tonight to give a statement. Security dude claims it happens more ofthen that you'd think in that parking lot. To say the least I'm still a little bit jacked right now. My hand is a wee bit sore right now. If I wasn't at work I'd be drinking right about now.
Hopefully buddy doesn't try and sue you for assault.
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chossmonkey
May 20, 2008, 10:47 PM
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He's lucky you didn't have your ax handy.
Also, that's kinda what you get for shopping Crappy Tire.
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chossmonkey
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dr_feelgood wrote: In other news, I successfully inserted my tube into two drugged women today, and I have the signatures to prove it.
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chossmonkey
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wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure.
Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon.
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chossmonkey
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wanderlustmd wrote: the_climber wrote: Cross posting from the other thread... This, yes this is how my afternoon is going: the_climber is having a hell of an afternoon! wrote: In other news I was at Canadian Tire at lunch time pricing out some stuff, and walking back to my truck... W T F ! Some punk was reafing on the back window to try and break in to steal my tool bag! Had my cell phone in my hand to call the cops, but fuck he was going at it and of all the people in the parking lot not a dam one of them was doing anything! Nothing! Not so much as a "hey buddy what gives?"! Ran up behind him and checked him into the tailgate. The fucker took a swing at me, so I knocked him the f*ck out! Out cold! One hit! Right the f*ck out! Gave my contact info to the security guy who said he'd handle everything with the cops... expecting a call tonight to give a statement. Security dude claims it happens more ofthen that you'd think in that parking lot. To say the least I'm still a little bit jacked right now. My hand is a wee bit sore right now. If I wasn't at work I'd be drinking right about now. haha! Nice. Remind me not to piss you off.
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chossmonkey wrote: He's lucky you didn't have your ax handy. Also, that's kinda what you get for shopping Crappy Tire.
Wasn't he shopping at a placed called Canada Tire? But you substituted the word Canada for Crappy. Hmmmm...
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chossmonkey
May 20, 2008, 11:00 PM
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the_climber wrote: Well, got the call from the cops. The officer was real cool about it. Said I probably shouldn't have hit the guy, but he could understand how one would react that way. Said it sounded pretty clear cut and that he didn't expect any hassle or trouble on my end with it. Going in after work to give my statement. Oh, and he said the guy's not going to be trying to pull any asault BS. Said that the punk (well, the officer said "gentleman") seems to be of the oppinion that he got caught doing something that he shouldn't have.
So you should have slapped him on the wrist?
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chossmonkey
May 20, 2008, 11:01 PM
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They are so PC in Canada aren't they?
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artm
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chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon.
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chossmonkey
May 20, 2008, 11:04 PM
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: chossmonkey wrote: He's lucky you didn't have your ax handy. Also, that's kinda what you get for shopping Crappy Tire. Wasn't he shopping at a placed called Canada Tire? But you substituted the word Canada for Crappy. Hmmmm...
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the_climber
May 20, 2008, 11:12 PM
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chossmonkey wrote: the_climber wrote: Well, got the call from the cops. The officer was real cool about it. Said I probably shouldn't have hit the guy, but he could understand how one would react that way. Said it sounded pretty clear cut and that he didn't expect any hassle or trouble on my end with it. Going in after work to give my statement. Oh, and he said the guy's not going to be trying to pull any asault BS. Said that the punk (well, the officer said "gentleman") seems to be of the oppinion that he got caught doing something that he shouldn't have. So you should have slapped him on the wrist?
The legal system will likely give him little more that a slap on the wrist, but I betcha his heads still ringing! And I bet he'll thing twice before trying that again in the near future...
...I say near future as he is most obviously a dumb ass. WTF, only a dumb ass has enough stupidity to actually try and break into what is obviously a Redneck's mud covered 4x4 on a Tuesday after the May 24?
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chossmonkey
May 20, 2008, 11:15 PM
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artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon. Well in that case rate it by the single hardest move on the route.
And would you rate it as if you rapped down to the move and tried it completely fresh or how it feels with a bit of a pump?
I'm just going to call it M9+.
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chossmonkey
May 20, 2008, 11:19 PM
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the_climber wrote: I've finally stopped vibrating! Still, can't wait for that beer when I get home.
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tripperjm
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chossmonkey wrote: tripperjm wrote: Nothing worse than having real guys walk your soft grades and down rating them... Hurts don't it?
u r rong.
None of my difficult routes have ever been down rated, that I know of. I have, however, seen the toll it takes on others when their difficult routes have been down rated. Generally my difficult routes get called sandbags.... and I'm OK with that. It's kinda a shame you live in a long forgotten, backwater, corner of the climbing community, cuz I would have been happy to come out, walk your hard routes and down rated them for you.
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artm
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chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon. Well in that case rate it by the single hardest move on the route. What if it is a series of hard moves? And would you rate it as if you rapped down to the move and tried it completely fresh or how it feels with a bit of a pump? I'm just going to call it M9+.
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tripperjm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: tripperjm wrote: Nothing worse than having real guys walk your soft grades and down rating them... Hurts don't it? u r rong. None of my difficult routes have ever been down rated, that I know of. I have, however, seen the toll it takes on others when their difficult routes have been down rated. Generally my difficult routes get called sandbags.... and I'm OK with that. It's kinda a shame you live in a long forgotten, backwater, corner of the climbing community, cuz I would have been happy to come out, walk your hard routes and down rated them for you.
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tripperjm
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chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. If I wanted his opinion I'd point to him with my middle finger.
Well it was naive of you to think I wasn't reading and I figured when you started spraying about grades, that was an invitation to state my opinion... Sorry you didn't like what I said.
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artm wrote: tripperjm wrote: artm wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: Is anyone good at math? I have a question. Art would probably know this one. What does 12a + 12b + ~20degrees= ? There is kinda a rest at some jugs between the two, but it is kinda steep at that part so most of the weight is still on your arms so its tough to get a great recovery. New Root? I'd say 12b, but I'm probably the least qualified to do so. Are you talking two boulder problems with that rest in between? If it's not much of a rest like you say, maybe .12c. Who am I kidding, I have no friggin clue... Its a link up. The first crux is right off the ground then you go into the crux of the 12b. You get some pretty good jugs between the two but it isn't the best rest and you can never really fully shake the pump. You go into the second crux way more pumped than if you do the normal start. It doesn't really matter to much. Its just another route to add into the rotation. Its just kinda nice to have a gage on my training. I was supposed to go someplace different today and get on some new routes, but it is raining.  I feel like I'm in pretty good shape right now so I was excited to go rip it up. I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Call it 5.12b+ Confuse the shit out of everyone. The french rating system actually works better for sport climbing grades. humm, u r all rong.... cept the part about french grades more accurately discribing the the difficulty of sport routes. So, if you are a sprayer, you would have to call it 13a. Thats what jt512 would grade it. Cuz thats what he does to all of my routes. By the fact that you are hear talking about grades, leads me to believe.... spray!!!1 Personally, I've got to figure that the 12a and the 12b are both over rated by a grade to a grade and a half. So I would rate the link up 7a+ and let the posers whine. I'd have to send it to be sure, but it is likely a pretty gud guess. Nothing worse than having real guys walk your soft grades and down rating them... Didn't Tom Lindner down rate The Action to 12d?
u r rong. I rated The Action 12d on the fa. Troy upgraded it to 13a in his guide without even trying the route. Tom Linder as well as several others, confirmed the 13a grade.
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chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon.
I hear ya on gas. I'm getting concerned about my trip. I suppose the rising gas costs will be somewhat offset by the fact that I won't be paying rent, though.
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wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon. I hear ya on gas. I'm getting concerned about my trip. I suppose the rising gas costs will be somewhat offset by the fact that I won't be paying rent, though.
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granite_grrl wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon. I hear ya on gas. I'm getting concerned about my trip. I suppose the rising gas costs will be somewhat offset by the fact that I won't be paying rent, though. Try to spend your time climbing at places that are free (both the climbing and the camping).
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artm wrote: tripperjm wrote: stymingersfink wrote: tripperjm wrote: artm wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: Is anyone good at math? I have a question. Art would probably know this one. What does 12a + 12b + ~20degrees= ? There is kinda a rest at some jugs between the two, but it is kinda steep at that part so most of the weight is still on your arms so its tough to get a great recovery. New Root? I'd say 12b, but I'm probably the least qualified to do so. Are you talking two boulder problems with that rest in between? If it's not much of a rest like you say, maybe .12c. Who am I kidding, I have no friggin clue... Its a link up. The first crux is right off the ground then you go into the crux of the 12b. You get some pretty good jugs between the two but it isn't the best rest and you can never really fully shake the pump. You go into the second crux way more pumped than if you do the normal start. It doesn't really matter to much. Its just another route to add into the rotation. Its just kinda nice to have a gage on my training. I was supposed to go someplace different today and get on some new routes, but it is raining. I feel like I'm in pretty good shape right now so I was excited to go rip it up. I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Call it 5.12b+ Confuse the shit out of everyone. The french rating system actually works better for sport climbing grades. humm, u r all rong.... cept the part about french grades more accurately discribing the the difficulty of sport routes. So, if you are a sprayer, you would have to call it 13a. Thats what jt512 would grade it. Cuz thats what he does to all of my routes. By the fact that you are hear talking about grades, leads me to believe.... spray!!!1 Personally, I've got to figure that the 12a and the 12b are both over rated by a grade to a grade and a half. So I would rate the link up 7a+ and let the posers whine. I'd have to send it to be sure, but it is likely a pretty gud guess. Nothing worse than having real guys walk your soft grades and down rating them... simplify things. Call it .11+ I was giving chossy the benifit of the doubt that he wasn't a full on poser by calling it 7a+. Personally I like to 'simplify' things... course people say I like to sandbag but they would be rong. You're also the guy who wants to call the $20 Dollar Hooker 6c
The $20 Hooker won't get down rated at 6c....
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chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: tripperjm wrote: artm wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: Is anyone good at math? I have a question. Art would probably know this one. What does 12a + 12b + ~20degrees= ? There is kinda a rest at some jugs between the two, but it is kinda steep at that part so most of the weight is still on your arms so its tough to get a great recovery. New Root? I'd say 12b, but I'm probably the least qualified to do so. Are you talking two boulder problems with that rest in between? If it's not much of a rest like you say, maybe .12c. Who am I kidding, I have no friggin clue... Its a link up. The first crux is right off the ground then you go into the crux of the 12b. You get some pretty good jugs between the two but it isn't the best rest and you can never really fully shake the pump. You go into the second crux way more pumped than if you do the normal start. It doesn't really matter to much. Its just another route to add into the rotation. Its just kinda nice to have a gage on my training. I was supposed to go someplace different today and get on some new routes, but it is raining. I feel like I'm in pretty good shape right now so I was excited to go rip it up. I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Call it 5.12b+ Confuse the shit out of everyone. The french rating system actually works better for sport climbing grades. humm, u r all rong.... cept the part about french grades more accurately discribing the the difficulty of sport routes. So, if you are a sprayer, you would have to call it 13a. Thats what jt512 would grade it. Cuz thats what he does to all of my routes. By the fact that you are hear talking about grades, leads me to believe.... spray!!!1 Personally, I've got to figure that the 12a and the 12b are both over rated by a grade to a grade and a half. So I would rate the link up 7a+ and let the posers whine. I'd have to send it to be sure, but it is likely a pretty gud guess. Nothing worse than having real guys walk your soft grades and down rating them... Didn't Tom Lindner down rate The Action to 12d? Ouch. He isn't really even a real guy. He had to live vicariously through his son.
HAHA!!!1 Now that's some funny sh1t... just don't say it to his face, cuz he one angry guy. Last time I saw Tom, he gave me a ration of shit cuz I didn't want to climb with him. I mentioned that sometimes he is just no fun to hang out with. He completly flipped out. Started yelling at me at the top of his lungs, I was only about two feet from him.... what a fuking scene.
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tripperjm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: tripperjm wrote: artm wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: Is anyone good at math? I have a question. Art would probably know this one. What does 12a + 12b + ~20degrees= ? There is kinda a rest at some jugs between the two, but it is kinda steep at that part so most of the weight is still on your arms so its tough to get a great recovery. New Root? I'd say 12b, but I'm probably the least qualified to do so. Are you talking two boulder problems with that rest in between? If it's not much of a rest like you say, maybe .12c. Who am I kidding, I have no friggin clue... Its a link up. The first crux is right off the ground then you go into the crux of the 12b. You get some pretty good jugs between the two but it isn't the best rest and you can never really fully shake the pump. You go into the second crux way more pumped than if you do the normal start. It doesn't really matter to much. Its just another route to add into the rotation. Its just kinda nice to have a gage on my training. I was supposed to go someplace different today and get on some new routes, but it is raining. I feel like I'm in pretty good shape right now so I was excited to go rip it up. I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Call it 5.12b+ Confuse the shit out of everyone. The french rating system actually works better for sport climbing grades. humm, u r all rong.... cept the part about french grades more accurately discribing the the difficulty of sport routes. So, if you are a sprayer, you would have to call it 13a. Thats what jt512 would grade it. Cuz thats what he does to all of my routes. By the fact that you are hear talking about grades, leads me to believe.... spray!!!1 Personally, I've got to figure that the 12a and the 12b are both over rated by a grade to a grade and a half. So I would rate the link up 7a+ and let the posers whine. I'd have to send it to be sure, but it is likely a pretty gud guess. Nothing worse than having real guys walk your soft grades and down rating them... Didn't Tom Lindner down rate The Action to 12d? Ouch. He isn't really even a real guy. He had to live vicariously through his son. HAHA!!!1 Now that's some funny sh1t... just don't say it to his face, cuz he one angry guy. Last time I saw Tom, he gave me a ration of shit cuz I didn't want to climb with him. I mentioned that sometimes he is just no fun to hang out with. He completly flipped out. Started yelling at me at the top of his lungs, I was only about two feet from him.... what a fuking scene.
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