What do you prefer to tie around a tree, for anchoring purposes? Why?

Tubular Webbing
Pro Cord
Sling
Other

What's your preffered method? Why?

Girth Hitch
Other (tie around with a particular knot)

1) Tubular Webbing:
A) Webbing in loop, girth hitch tree
B) Tie loop around tree with water knot
2) Static Line:
A) Loop around tree with bowline on coil, or simple bowline.
3) Other cordage:
Either as 2A or 1A, depending on if cordage is looped or not.

I like the bowline because you don't have to guesstimate how long the rope around the tree needs to be. Easy to adjust, easy to untie. Make SURE to back it up with another knot.

Choice between webbing or cordage totally depends on what we have carried to the top of the crag. Some setups can be easier with one or the other.

How big is the tree?

I'm in NJ/PA. An average sized man can hug or nearly hug most of the trees.

to back up the bowline...what would you do? a saftey/fisherman knot on the end?

wrap the webbing three times (aka W3P2) and tie it with a water knot. pull two string out and attach your TR biner. leave the knot in the front facing the master biner.

for longer distance:

run a static cord and wrap one end three times. place an 8 and clip the 8 with one biner to rope. take the other end, put a fig 8 and attach your TR biner. if the TR biner is hanging over the edge. protect the rope by carpet, bag or whatever so it does not get cut.

you can always do all these mombo jumbo clove hitch whatever but that is like creating unnecessary cluster.

Just keep in mind that if you biner a figure 8 for the anchor in an area with high non-climber traffic, you just might find that biner missing by the end of your climb...

run a static cord and wrap one end three times. place an 8 and clip the 8 with one biner to rope. take the other end, put a fig 8 and attach your TR biner.

wrap the webbing three times (aka W3P2) and tie it with a water knot. pull two string out and attach your TR biner. leave the knot in the front facing the master biner.

for longer distance:

run a static cord and wrap one end three times. place an 8 and clip the 8 with one biner to rope. take the other end, put a fig 8 and attach your TR biner. if the TR biner is hanging over the edge. protect the rope by carpet, bag or whatever so it does not get cut.

you can always do all these mombo jumbo clove hitch whatever but that is like creating unnecessary cluster.

ah ha, very nice. thanks for the explanation.

is it possible to use one rope on two trees?

for example, you tie an achor to one tree and have like 50 feet of rope remaining, could you tie another anchor to a nearby tree with the same rope?

explain, please?

Yes.

What part would you like to have explained though?

more or less have a scenario described. I kind of see it in my head. In fact, the idea came to me last night and I decided to post it this morning to get a look at the feedback. A yes or no reply was definitely what I was looking for. If someone can tell me how they would do it (physical circumstances of the trees, edge, etc. their choice), cool.

Allamuchy, NJ is strictly NO BOLTS. There's a great practice wall and my first time there, my instructor had anchored us to two trees. I want to say they were about 30 feet from the edge. From what I remember, he had used a "rope". Not sure if it was cordage, static, or dynamic.

Ralph Stover, PA has bolts in place. However, if I wanted to tie into a tree...I'm guessing that I have 10-20 feet before the edge, depending.

Those are my locals.

I'm in NJ too. Bring a 6-pack of a good microbrew and I'll head out to Allamuchy with you for the day and answer all the questions you've got!

just ordered this one...

Rock Climbing Anchors: A Comprehensive Guide (The Mountaineers Outdoor Experts Series)
Craig Luebben

I've already read through John Long's How To Rock Climb.

I'm a beginner! I am learning. And, I found Rockclimbing.com Forums, so I could come around with LOTS of questions and ask for detailed explanations on subjects that I needed clarified. There's no Rock Climbing Bar over on Main Street, otherwise I'd walk in, order a beer, and ask the same questions there.

I have no intentions of climbing on my own for a while. I'm in the gym until winter breaks, come Spring I'll be outside with guides...getting instructions and asking questions.

Anyway, thanks for the replies. No offense taken at all I'll look through them, and maybe post some follow-up questions.

Awesome

is it possible to use one rope on two trees?

for example, you tie an achor to one tree and have like 50 feet of rope remaining, could you tie another anchor to a nearby tree with the same rope?

explain, please?

is it possible to use one rope on two trees?

for example, you tie an achor to one tree and have like 50 feet of rope remaining, could you tie another anchor to a nearby tree with the same rope?

explain, please?

[image]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ejAk42p7jdY/TO2j3WmPJJI/AAAAAAAAFWg/dMOIwIU8l-A/s320/Tree+Wrap.JPG[/image]

http://alpineinstitute.blogspot.com/2010/12/natural-anchors.html

I would be mildy concerned about this set-up as well as any other form of girth hitching.

I understand the method and that it works fine, but as long as you have the gear for it, why wouldn't you choose a redundant set-up like a loop of cord wrapped once with an eight on a bight? Then extend as necessary.

Also, why does the picture not show up in my quote? I'm a forum noob.

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What do you mean, a "loop of cord wrapped once with an eight on a bight?"

Take out the "." in the image tags... sucks to have to do but works.

I believe this is what he's talking about:

I believe this is what he's talking about:

[image]http://i.ehow.com/images/a02/5f/l8/tie-ground-anchor-belaying-1.1-120X120.jpg[/image]

I would be mildy concerned about this set-up as well as any other form of girth hitching.

I understand the method and that it works fine, but as long as you have the gear for it, why wouldn't you choose a redundant set-up like a loop of cord wrapped once with an eight on a bight? Then extend as necessary.

Also, why does the picture not show up in my quote? I'm a forum noob.

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I would be mildy concerned about this set-up as well as any other form of girth hitching.

I understand the method and that it works fine, but as long as you have the gear for it, why wouldn't you choose a redundant set-up like a loop of cord wrapped once with an eight on a bight? Then extend as necessary.

Also, why does the picture not show up in my quote? I'm a forum noob.

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This anchor sucks Girl, you just failed your final anchor exam by following recommendation in RC .

come back next summer and retake your course again

go go

Wrap twice pull twice, not as nice.

This anchor sucks Girl, you just failed your final anchor exam by following recommendation in RC .

come back next summer and retake your course again

go go

Why do you all wear color coordinated outfits complete with matching helmets?