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mountainchick82
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I just got back from a spring break road trip with my best friend who happens to be a guy. As we were travelling I found that something was missing. Finally I realized it was female companionship.
I have close girlfriends, but none of them are into the outdoors. They are either shopaholics or sloths. None of them I feel I can take a road trip with, enjoy the outdoors, or laugh over a spill on a mountain bike, or how smelly we are after 5 days in the backcountry.
How have you found good women friends or chicks that enjoy the outdoors like you do? I find it hard, though it shouldn't be here in LA or back home in Colorado.
Any thoughts? Cheers!
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mtnchik
Mar 28, 2004, 3:17 AM
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dude...you think it's hard out there in LA and Colorado, try NJ. I think I'm the only chik in Jersey that bikes, hikes, climbs, and camps. And when i do find a chik to climb or bike with she won't bring me around her friends because she feels threatened that i'm going to take her friends away. I would do almost anything for a cool chik to hang out with, i kind of get tired of the testosterone every now and then and would like a fresh breath of feminism.
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hstewart
Mar 28, 2004, 4:53 AM
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totally. if these women do exist, they are easily threatened. it sucks. there's a serious lack of cool chicks in this world.
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climbingurlie
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I feel for ya. I love to be outdoors and hike, and camp, and climb, and whatnot, but it seems that most females I know aren't interested. "Oh, it's to hot/cold." "Oh, I don't want to mess my hair up." "Oh, I don't have anything to wear outside." I get stuck with guys most of the time and I'm pushed to do things that the guys can easily do, that I cannot. It definitly sux not having someone with me at the time who can relate with me.
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josephine
Mar 28, 2004, 2:37 PM
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yep,i feel exactly how you feel...
I'm in a climbing club with 20members and i'm the only girl...good one huh?We used to have another 2 girls but they stopped
All my girlfriends doesn't want to climb/hike etc...they like other things better than wanting to sweat or whatever,want nice nails yada yada...
blah it sux :(
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jay_climbingchick
Mar 28, 2004, 3:06 PM
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I know how you feel!
I live in Colorado and I have notest that guys are the only people that I do anything involving the outdoors. I you find then in colorado let me know.
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In reply to: totally. if these women do exist, they are easily threatened. it sucks. there's a serious lack of cool chicks in this world.
You're just new to town, Holly. There's tons of cool climbing and outdoorsy women near you. I met a very cool trad climber in Eldo once but got her e-mail address wrong. She was upbeat and cool. Sandra is her name. She's a teacher and has long dark hair if you run into anyone like that in Eldo. If anyone reading this knows that Sandra, get her in touch with us.
You should meet my wife Marketa, too. She's way outdoorsy. We'll all go climbing as soon as this cold snap leaves us. Too bad about the hail yesterday.
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oh wow - you're telling me! i have no girlfriends, really. a few people to chat with at work, but they're work people... just lost a girlfriend, she doesn't climb anymore, and wanted me to come out to parties where everyone gets drunk - not my style...
a few chicks i've met through this site, pretty cool girls, but i'm up here in ontario. sigh!
besides that, any girls i think i may be friends with - they're concentrating on geting married and having babies. something i SO DO NOT RELATE TO!!
and then on top of that, it'd be nice to have a girlfriend i could chill with and burn some green. sigh.
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maculated
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In reply to: How have you found good women friends or chicks that enjoy the outdoors like you do?
Like any good relationship, finding like-minded souls can take a while. I have four of the best friends I'll ever have and I waited 15 years to find them. They aren't climbing friends and they are slightly miffed about it, but such is life. They are worth the effort it takes to be friends with them ten years later.
During my climbing tenure, i've been fortunate enough to be steeped in the climbing culture and I can assure you women are out there. I just got back from a week with one of the most wonderful, good-hearted, outdoors-loving women I've met yet. It takes time.
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As maculated said, it takes time and is probably somewhat similar to finding that special guy... you go through a lot of not so greats first on the road to finding lasting friends. Luckily, I've managed to make great friends in any of the new hobbies I've picked up, both male and female. I have noticed though that the friendships always take a little more work when either person (me or friend) gets involved with a new man. I think that's just a fact of life.
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Lately I have seen alot of grls at the crags... but I know how you feel... I have yet to find a girl to go climb and camp and smell bad with... We should all form our own community in the middle of nowhere LOL if that made any since... but since weall live so far away an have the same problem...
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hstewart
Mar 29, 2004, 1:07 AM
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In reply to: You're just new to town, Holly. There's tons of cool climbing and outdoorsy women near you.
maybe. though most of the women i've met here haven't been nearly as down-to-earth as the folks back east (men and women alike). though i suppose that's comes with living in boulder.
most of the girls/women i see at the crags are climbing with their boyfriends. not that there's anything wrong with that...i guess i just can't relate. it would just be nice to meet some women who climb totally for themselves and aren't afraid to get dirty. ya know?
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In reply to: In reply to: You're just new to town, Holly. There's tons of cool climbing and outdoorsy women near you. maybe. though most of the women i've met here haven't been nearly as down-to-earth as the folks back east (men and women alike). though i suppose that's comes with living in boulder. most of the girls/women i see at the crags are climbing with their boyfriends. not that there's anything wrong with that...i guess i just can't relate. it would just be nice to meet some women who climb totally for themselves and aren't afraid to get dirty. ya know?
Yeah, that girl I mentioned is like that. Her husband doesn't climb, so she's out there on her own climbing with whoever shows up. Have you met Kelly from CO Springs yet? She skydives as well.
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In reply to: Ola, chiquita, I grok your thoughts, but they're out there, believe me! Git yer fanny back to CO and there'll be plenty of las damas to hang with! And besides, you know where I live and work so the door's always open! SKibs |
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Mar 29, 2004, 6:07 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: You're just new to town, Holly. There's tons of cool climbing and outdoorsy women near you. maybe. though most of the women i've met here haven't been nearly as down-to-earth as the folks back east (men and women alike). though i suppose that's comes with living in boulder. most of the girls/women i see at the crags are climbing with their boyfriends. not that there's anything wrong with that...i guess i just can't relate. it would just be nice to meet some women who climb totally for themselves and aren't afraid to get dirty. ya know?
the first time i went climbing was because my uncle made me go, and me being the golden age i was b!tched and moaned the whole time we drove there and well to make the story shorter i had a great time which is usually what happens when i complain so much.
i personally, don't really like females , i have very few female friends and the ones i do have i never see and like it that way. i spend more time and effort trying to get them to go away than i do trying to find them.
most females i know think you can either be one of the girls, or one of the guys. and as i am neither i can't always be with one or the other. i don't know i'm doing a horrible job of explaining this. i would rather be around guys, they aren't moody and they aren't as judgemental when i don't look perfect, which is a lot of the time. :roll: i guess maybe it's less about their gender and more about how you can relate to them. i don't know. but like everyone's saying, it just takes time.
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i can totally relate, It is hard to find cool climbing girls. For the longest time I only climbed with guys, their cool, but like a lot of the other ladies have said, it is nice to be around another lady from time to time. *sigh*
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litleclimberchick
Mar 29, 2004, 10:09 PM
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In reply to: there's a serious lack of cool chicks in this world.
i don't think so...there's just a lack of cool younger chicks...not many teenage chicks i know would even consider climbing or anything outdoorsy, let alone actually doing it. it's upsetting :?
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Guess I'm unique here in that almost all my girlfreinds are into outdoor sports including climbing. In fact even all my girlfriends from high school climb. When we had a reunion we all went climbing at a local gym. I do benefit from the fact that most of my friends here are environmentalists or scientists and those often go hand in hand with outdoor recreation.
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In reply to: oh wow - you're telling me! i have no girlfriends, really. a few people to chat with at work, but they're work people... just lost a girlfriend, she doesn't climb anymore, and wanted me to come out to parties where everyone gets drunk - not my style...
You took the words right out of my fingers...You would think San Diego would be an easy place to meet outdoorsy people, hell they seem to be everywhere. However, meeting girls here is near impossible. I've really gone out of my way a few times and just been shot down. It's just plain frustrating.
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mountainchick82
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Hey Ladies in So Cal! Tired of prissy chicks? Tired of friends who want to shop all the time? Then lets get together for some outdoor fun....anyone up for it?
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Mar 30, 2004, 2:59 AM
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In reply to: Hey Ladies in So Cal! Tired of prissy chicks? Tired of friends who want to shop all the time? Then lets get together for some outdoor fun....anyone up for it?
I'm in West LA during the week, on the road climbing every weekend. I don't use a tent, I like to sleep in the dirt. I can go days without showering and drive like a long haul trucker. I think you're gonna have to join me on some of my mad-dog weekend Yosemite trips this season. 10 hours roundtrip driving for 2 days in the valley....WELL worth it. At least this season I'll have Meg around the valley some weekends to get in trouble with :lol: :lol: :lol: !!
But I agree...hardcore outdoors girfriends are hard to come by. 99% of the time I'm around the guys outside cause they like to get dirty, climb and party like I do. Oh yeah, I hope you like beer. :wink: . And if you like tequila....you'll soon become my best friend.
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In reply to: As maculated said, it takes time and is probably somewhat similar to finding that special guy... you go through a lot of not so greats first on the road to finding lasting friends. Luckily, I've managed to make great friends in any of the new hobbies I've picked up, both male and female. I have noticed though that the friendships always take a little more work when either person (me or friend) gets involved with a new man. I think that's just a fact of life.
I agree with you on this one. I have been lucky as well. My climbing partner and I used to work together, now she is at a bank but we still hang out and climb. Neither of us have BF's right now though, but I think we'll be ok. I am meeting so many new people, I am lovin it. I don't care who I climb , hike or camp with as long as they don't smell too bad. lol Any of you girls wanna visit the great Northwest the doors always open.
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In reply to: i can totally relate, It is hard to find cool climbing girls. For the longest time I only climbed with guys, their cool, but like a lot of the other ladies have said, it is nice to be around another lady from time to time. *sigh*
;( snif! I miss you. you are the coolest climbing chick ever. I loved seeing your truck at Yosemite and Strawberry. I'm not working, maybe it's time for a road trip, hmmm?
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I guess I'm torn on this issue. I grew up a tomboy with no close female friends, so I didn't even know what I was missing until eleventh grade when I met my friend Mara, who to this day is my closest friend. She's not the athletic type, and on top of that she has a very large bone structure, so rockclimbing intimidates the shit out of her. I get that.
The club I'm in is actually predominantly female, but there are only three of us who are into it seriously. The rest of 'em are cool chicks, but content to stay indoors and don't go out of their way for it. On the other hand, the guys that are in it are much more into climbing, seeing it more as a life passion than a fun hobby for now.
I'm lucky enough to have a climbing buddy. She rocks my socks! We're both tomboys, neither of us tend to make meaningful friendships with other women, and we're both grumpy about being short, having more bodyfat, less upper body strength, and lower centers of gravity than guys. But hey, the flexibility makes up for some of that, as does not having to ever experience getting a nut caught in the harness. Ouch. And in some ways, now that I've gotten my fiance interested in climbing I'm bummed that she and I won't get our estrogen power alone time. ^_~
So yeah, hardcore chicks? We exist. The fact that most of us seem to dismiss other women as girly and shallow on sight probably has a lot to do with the fact that people can't seem to find us. There are definitely more men in the sport than women, and I think to a large degree it's because their gender gives them the edge in most cases. But I've never let that stop me before. ^_^
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I don't really have climbing girlfriends either, but I think that in my case, it's not the other climbing women that are problematic. It's me. :oops:
The guys that I climb with are just easier to deal with on road trips and in the gym, so they are the ones that I tend to e-mail first when I'm trying to get a trip together or make sure I have a partner that night. But that isn't any climber chick's fault, it's just that _I've_ decided I'm more comfortable with the guys. One of my main climbing buddies is a lady friend, but she also works an abnormal week and pursues tons of other activities, so it isn't as easy to schedule things with her. All my lady friends like to do outdoorsy stuff, but other than the aforementioned busy friend, none of them really climb very much or very well. And that's another issue I'm starting to run into with my casual climbing buddies. As I've become more commited to the sport and improved, I tend to want to climb with people that are at my level or better than me in order to get more out of the expereince. And while there are plenty of women in my gym that fit that bill, they aren't people that I've really gotten to know. So I wind up climbing with my already made guy friends.
But who was that talking about her love of 10 hour mainc driving road trips, and beer, and even tequila! There's a climbing chick buddy for me! Sigh. Of course she almost certainly lives on the west coast in some state where they've actually got rocks. . .
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Don't even get me started on this topic. The problems with having all male friends (like they realize you won't ever sleep with them & decide to not be your friend anymore)...
I finally have some good female friends, but NOT outdoorsy. I took a couple female friends to Yosemite last year & had to pitch the tent, build the fire, etc- they'd never even camped before. One SLEEPS IN A BRA. Frustrating.
And my closest friend & I drove cross-country & back for 3 weeks last summer & I had to talk her into peeing on the side of the road. She was utterly disgusted. She had never peed outside in her life. She's 42. Unbelievable. I had the time of my life, driving straight through the night, living on coffee, not showering, sleeping at truck stops & stealing campsites... :) But I digress.
I'm in LA too- let's go get dirty! My dream is to someday have a group of girls that I'm close enough with that we can do female-bonding road trips & not have to sleep in a friggin' motel. And ideally, climb.
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i definitely think finding cool climbing girlfriends just takes time. It's hard for me to relate to other girls who get into climbing w/ their b.f. and just kind of tag along. All the girls that i climb with got into climbing on their own, and have done it for a long time. I never had a problem meeting cool climber girls in CO and now in CA, though when i lived in Washington DC, i never had girl climbing partners.
And it still bums me out that the majority of my climbing partners are guys. Sometimes the testoserone gets old and then there are all the additional issues (like attraction to your partner or the guy realizing you won't sleep w/ him or i lose a good climbing partner b/c his wife or girlfriend doesn't climb and there's jealousy of some sort) It's good to have cool women climbers...but I think people need to realize not to judge too quickly. Two of my favorite girl partners were a lot more 'girly' than me--but they were tough and strong in the outdoors, and a lot of fun.
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I am in the same boat with no climbing girlfriends... plus throw in being a mom, and the true friend factor decreases three fold. Matt (hubby) and i climb together, and we are slowly expanding our circle. climbing outdoors has helped us to meet common people, mostly guys. it is tough with all the testosterone sometime :wink:
but it is hard trying to find active mid-20 couples (or singles) that understand parenting (or at least needin' a babysitter) and that loud bars and drinking all night is not the way sometimes. i gotta say that mother_sheep and amber_chk have been fortunate in finding one another. but i am still lookin' :)
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While hiking the Green mountain trail in the Flatirons we ran into a girl that apparantly needs some partners to climb with. Poor soul has climbing friends who only like to sport climb. The horror! I told her about the site, so perhaps she will join up.
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In reply to: oh wow - you're telling me! i have no girlfriends, really. a few people to chat with at work, but they're work people... just lost a girlfriend, she doesn't climb anymore, and wanted me to come out to parties where everyone gets drunk - not my style... a few chicks i've met through this site, pretty cool girls, but i'm up here in ontario. sigh! besides that, any girls i think i may be friends with - they're concentrating on geting married and having babies. something i SO DO NOT RELATE TO!! and then on top of that, it'd be nice to have a girlfriend i could chill with and burn some green. sigh.
all you have to do Jess is move here :D
that's not so hard.
now is it??
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Hey Ladies!
Well...I have a new job in LA, I'm actually getting out into the real world and makin some $$. But! Now that I'm staying in LA I would love to meet some women who climb. Anyone out there? Maybe we can get an LA Women's thread or group going. I was going to try this if I moved to Colorado, but since I'm staying in Cali I thought it would be nice to get some chicks together who can pull down.
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Finding friends is hard no matter what your gender or favorite pass time. Just because you share a love of climbing and the outdoors will not make you instant friends. True outdoor enthusiasts are a rare breed and factor in everyones own personality and finding some one you truely click with is even more rare. I know I lose most of my close climbing friends to a relationship, the job, the bills and the couch. Usually in that order. lol I still climb, I still hike and I'm also very single. Try being a guy and finding a girlfriend who shares your passion for climbing and the outdoors. That is even more frustrating. Relationships are tough no matter what, whether it be friends, family or lovers. If some one has it figured out yet please let me know. :D
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Yeah, I have lost friends over the last few years to their own lives too...everyone is worried about marriages and babies. I'm not too concerned with anything but climbing and earning a good living (sometimes in that order!!)
Since I've taken up climbing, I've met others but we just chat at the gym..haven't hung out with anyone outside the gym (they are a pretty tight group I think but super nice). I have one good friend who enjoys it as well (he lives 2,000 miles away and is way more experienced than me). But that's it. My other friends don't get it but they respect it. But that means I have no one to call with questions or to talk to about climbing in general. It does make you feel a little isolated from non-climbers..so thankful for this site. :)
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Try being in the south where a lot of the girls (at least the ones that I tend to run into!) really don't want to sweat! Also working in a place where everyone drives SUVs but only 4wheel on blacktop! I feel ya pain, Sistah, but know that it does get better. Know that there are women out there who share the same passions, and you will eventually meet them no matter your geography. In the meantime, while I do climb with my boyfriend and have several other primarily (sp?) male friends with whom I climb, bike, backpack, etc., I personally have found that my dog is my best girlfriend. She dosen't mind getting dirty, likes swimming in lakes, streams, whatever, listens when I moan and groan, is always there when I need to break down and bawl for whatever reason, will pee anytime anywhere (although she's gotten pretty good at pooping OFF the trails!) and is a good judge of character (ie: if she's funny about a guy, I won't go out with him!) Not suggesting that you go out and get yourself a dog, just offering my take on my life. It DOES get lonely, but knowing your value system and your priorities and your goals helps. Focus on what you enjoy doing, be kind to those you meet, and know that everything always works out! Meanwhile, go play and have fun!
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girls always end up back stabbing you.
that's why i like kicking it with the boys.
but ...
if you don't gossip, or talk smack
if you don't care if i can climb a 5.6 or a 5.11a
if you climb to enjoy being alive
if you are NOT A FLAKE
and if you live in LA...
pm me, i would love to climb with some cool chicks who are none of the things above.
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girls always end up back stabbing you.
that's why i like kicking it with the boys.
but ...
if you don't gossip, or talk smack
if you don't care if i can climb a 5.6 or a 5.11a
if you climb to enjoy being alive
if you are NOT A FLAKE
and if you live in LA...
pm me, i would love to climb with some cool chicks who are none of the things above.
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Since 1997, I have always had male partners, usually boyfriends. Although I know lots of climbers from the south, I haven't really climbed with just women. Up here in the northeast, it seems like mostly men at the crag and gym. Lately, I strongly feel in need of sista-hood. Having just broken off an engagement recently (After Italy, I feel like I just walked away from my best friend :cry: , but...), and having had a puzzle of a relationship with the guy before him, I am now actively seeking a circle of female climbing partners, women who speak the same language and can be a support like only women can be, and can laugh together like only women can. I return to Atlanta in June and there's so much to look forward to.
I am fortunate enough to know of a few good, strong, wise women and will make the commitment to get to know them better. I am also fortunate enough to soon make new female friends, with whom so far I've only corresponded.
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granite_grrl
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I don't know why it's always such a problem that a girl can be a little girly sometimes. A girl I spent a fair bit of time with on my road trip last winter was very girly (she had a lot of pink). But how awesome is it to have someone to spent a dirty sweaty day climbing with that you can also get all dolled up with for a night on the town!
On the note of female partners: I've had a few female partners over the last few years, I wouldn't say they were particularly hard to come by. From the sounds of it I may just have been lucky though.
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Just popped back over to this thread & started thinkin'... (LOOK OUT!) Since there is a certain power/attention that comes with being the sole female in the group, I think a lot of chicks get threatened by another female. There's this attitude of "these are MY boys, go find your own." We've probably all had the experience of approaching a group of people to find the men all super-friendly and the one woman there giving you the "look." I just think we guys' girls, tomboys, whatever need to welcome each other w/ open arms.
See, the men, they KNOW about this competitiveness we've got going and they use it against us! They use it to keep us down! Divide & conquer! Let's band together, women! Revolution, girl-style, NOW! Hee, hee. Just kidding.
Anywho, mountainchick82, since you are officially in LA now (which I had not realized), when are we going climbing?
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raelinn
May 22, 2004, 1:29 PM
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Gipsy and Ginerbiner...
You know it is ON!!!! weeeeeeeeee hooooooooooooo!!! Can't wait till you're back Gina.
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parhelia0
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well i guess i am really lucky. always heard talk about how you can't find any girls to climb with, but i have never really had a problem. yes, we have always been outnumbered overall, but i have had a good share of trips where the girls outnumber the guys.
actually i had one trip where one of the guys was complaining because he didn't get to shower! said he normally showered twice a day, and was quite serious!!! we were in a state of complete disbelief.
anyways, have definitely also been in the situation with not enough outdoorsy girls. got to spain and was stuck with a bunch of people who had no interest in "roughing-it." but finally i found some other climbers (though most are guys, and the few girls had their boyfriends). not until one other single girl, who happened to be very hard core, showed up did i really start to have a good time with the whole group. and thank goodness because there is so much good rock in spain!!!
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raelinn
May 22, 2004, 6:01 PM
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In reply to: girls always end up back stabbing you.
sorry to hear that's been your experience.
don't give up. there are lots of women full of fun and integrity out there!
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climbingbetty22
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In reply to: I think this may be the case... i'm very judgemental of other women, and normally my assumption is that they're "girly". hmmm. perhaps all the other hardcores think the same of me....
Maybe what we all need are T-shirts to identify us- "hard core climber chick" right across our breasts. Cause the reality is that many of us are girls and actually *gasp* look like girls sometimes!!! And I'm sure it is at those moments that no one would assume we're hardcore or anything like that.
I find this thread a little humorous. All of us are posting up, b*tching about not being able to find cool chicks to climb with. I hear that a lot from climber chicks. But then in real life, I'll meet a climber chick and try to be friends or something, but if she has a group of guy friends that she climbs with, she'll get all hostile and territorial, like I'm really trying to get in to her group and steal all the boys away. So, if you want more girls to climb with, a.) don't get all suspicious or jealous of other women at the gym who climb better than you, or look hotter than you and b.) take a closer look why it is really that you have to climb with all the guys sometimes. I know that I use to complain that I had no cool chicks to climb with, but when I really looked at why that was, it was because, I liked the attention of climbing with the guys and I liked having that all to myself. I would say that I wanted chicks to climb with, but if a good looking girl showed up at the gym instead of making friends with her, I would roll my eyes and dismiss her as "girly." It seems to me that a big part of the problem is that we all really like feeling unique. We're special when we are the one cool chick that climbs. If anyone else comes along, it takes away from that uniqueness. We get threatened and then act to preserve "our" turf. yadda, yadda, yadda.
Finding cool girls to climb with is about patience, but its also about effort. If you really want a cool chick to climb with, make an effort. Chat up the girls at the gym, call them all first for a climbing trip before you start calling the guys. I know that I am blessed to have a great female climbing partner and we have had great times climbing together. However, she lives in Colorado and I live on the East Coast, so it takes an effort. We try to get together for a girls-only road trip once a year, so it requires some planning to pick a crag, get a plane ticket, etc. But climbing with her is so worth it.
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This could be just coincidence, but most American women seem not to be interested in the outdoors. They especially seem to have a disdain for sweat and dirt. A great many of my female climbing partners are from Canada. Many of the women that I meet climbing, who are not clinging to a boyfriend or husband, are from countries other than the US. I've met many Canadian, European, and Australian women who climb harder, and get sweatier and dirtier, than most American men.
Which brings up another point. I've noticed that the fear of discomfort, sweat, and dirt does not pertain just to the American ladies. I've been around plenty of men who get real pissy when they've been without a shower for a couple of days. Once again, mostly guys from the US. Must have something to do with the "I want to be rich and famous" culture we're currently experiencing. That's the way I see things. Take it as you will.
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May 24, 2004, 1:01 AM
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just spent the whole day at the crag with 4 fabulous women! One of my old friends, a new friend and two I've never met before. We had a GREAT time!!! then we came back to my house for beer and pizza on my deck. perfect!
Persevere ladies.
Ok! What the hell?!!! I just realized that it says "boulderer" under my name!! I'm not a f*(king boulderer!!! :evil: I did not put that there. How do I make it go away?! I do not see a place in my profile to add or delete that. some fabulous MOD or ADMIN help me out here!!!
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brendergrrl
May 28, 2004, 3:18 PM
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I just try to be well-rounded. Like right now, I'm craving a weekend of limited personal hygiene and avoidance of ridiculous girl-shoes. I'm all about the outdoorsy kinds of things. But on the other hand, I'm planning my wedding and I like attempting to be girly, though I nevr really do get it quite right b/c girly-girlness just isn't natural to me.
It's been a while since I've done any climbing. I was a notch better than a novice before other interests took over; hopefully I can get my act together and get out again soon.
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May 28, 2004, 3:57 PM
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We have a trip to Horseshoe Canyon in Arkansas this Memorial day week-end. There are a 9 of us. Five ladies and four men.
Three of the ladies I have climbed with. One I know very well. I'm looking forward to the opportunity to get to know the other women on this trip.
The thing I love about climbing with women is they are so dad gum encouraging and supportive. Hopefully we'll have some digital pics to post later.
Dirt Debbie
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climber_chick
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move to alaska. there are so many hardcore outdoorsy women, its so awesome! pretty much all of my friends are into the outdoors and hiking, etc. good times, eh? :D
ps. i am so stoked for summer!!! it start tomorrow afternoon and 2 pm! cant wait cant wait cant wait....ahhhh i cant wait.
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My climbing partner is a woman, my back up partner is a woman too. I guess I'm lucky, there are tons of women climbers here in MA.
The local climbing gym that my parnter and I go to if we can't get outside has a womens' night twice a month. It's a great way to find even more women to climb with. A few guys will brave it and show up those nights, we love it, more belay slaves!
Check out your local gym and see if they have anything like that. Ask if anyone is interested in climbing outside with you. We did and were overwhelmed with the response. I think a lot are just waiting to be asked.
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Well, my gym is populated with indoor boulderers and I've had a tough time convincing people to (1) rope up and (2) get outside - but I think there may have been a break through. After bringing several girls outside for their first 'real' climb, four of them banded together and took their lead lessons at the gym. Now they are all buying gear! Soon we'll be able to have all girl sessions at the crag...
Now I have another problem - after climbing with very experienced (male) partners all my life, how do I get comfortable and trust relative novices?
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wow, you just gave the story of my life... My friends (girls) just can't survive outdoors. I have a few older friends, however, that I have been able to go on trips with. My advice is to make it obvious that you are in to that stuff so others who are into it too might approach you.. and who knows what could happen from there... I'm not too good at this kind of advice, but that might work. :)
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In reply to: I feel for ya. I love to be outdoors and hike, and camp, and climb, and whatnot, but it seems that most females I know aren't interested. "Oh, it's to hot/cold." "Oh, I don't want to mess my hair up." "Oh, I don't have anything to wear outside." I get stuck with guys most of the time and I'm pushed to do things that the guys can easily do, that I cannot. It definitly sux not having someone with me at the time who can relate with me.
I totally agree!
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ginerbiner
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Just recently learned a painful lesson. A girl will turn on you quick for the sake of a guy if she sees you as a threat in any way. I'd rather go back to climbing with guys, no games, much simpler. Atleast with them you can blame testostrone. I feel really bad :cry: The world is a scarey place when women turn against women. :(
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I'm lucky to have a very wonderful group of friends, but only two or three of whom are women.
My best friend is a "girlie" girl. Fake nails and the whole nine yards, but I love her. She called me the other day to tell me she had just bought a fake designer hand bag for $100, and all I could think of was I could have bought new climbing shoes for $100. I told her in that same phone call that if we handn't been best friends since 8th grade and if we met today, we probably wouldn't even speak to each other. We're completely different. But that's OK. I love her for who she is.
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missedyno
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In reply to: I'm lucky to have a very wonderful group of friends, but only two or three of whom are women. My best friend .... if we met today, we probably wouldn't even speak to each other. We're completely different. But that's OK. I love her for who she is.
That is really cool. for one reason or the other i don't have any "old" friends, just those made in the past few years. good for the two of you to value friendship over trying to change each other. sure you may never go dirt bagging, but hey, you've got someone to talk to ...
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I don't want to sound bitter but the clichy nature of climbers is the worst thing about climbing. I've given up on trying to mould in. It's bad enough that I'm an engineer, and sports I love are male-dominated as well. but the Queen bees of climbing clichs are no girlfriend material
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timstich
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In reply to: I don't want to sound bitter but the clichy nature of climbers is the worst thing about climbing. I've given up on trying to mould in. It's bad enough that I'm an engineer, and sports I love are male-dominated as well. but the Queen bees of climbing clichs are no girlfriend material
Cliques are not limited to climbing. It's the way we all create individual tribes. Joining neighboring tribes means learning their unwritten rules and customs and figuring out who's leading the show. Some tribes are less tolerant of outsiders, true.
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lewisiarediviva
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After reading all off this I feel less alone. In high school I wanted to go camping but my friends parents wouldn't let their daughters go because they wanted a guy along for safety reasons. Their was no way my mother would let me go if a guy was along.
Then in College of course I could go with whom ever I wanted. I know that outdoor girls are out and about. When I started climbing it was the guys in the group that invited me. Two of the group were girls. But then I moved with my man to a town that to be a wife means you drive one of the bigger gas hogs (nice but really big) and have at least 3 kids. This isn't totally true but driving my kids to the lake and pulling up in the parking lot, my trooper seams really small.
My husband has been complaining for years that I need to get out and meet people but when I do I realize that a girls night out is just that. It's not a day for a hike or a weekend in the mountains. It's a weekend at the resort town. Or every time they see me they say "It's your turn to have a 'nother baby." I work at a school part time and the only lady their that I think might truly be outdoor type was my sons PE teacher. But she worked two schools so we only had one recess a week to chat (if we didn't have paper work)-- I quess I'll be more direct this year and see what it is she does like.
I asked my man if he saw any women looking for female climbimbing partners on this site and he said "Yes, but they are yonger (and propably better) than you." Now don't get him wrong, he was being nice. And it motivated me to actually register.
My point being I guess that the women I'm around are wives and mothers and their is something comfotable about being just that, to them. And they make the shower comment too.
But I know their are alot of female climbers out their. I'm not far from the City of Rocks. Their are always women out their. My fault is that I only say "Hi." This forum has put that into prespective and I think I'm going to start asking them where they are from. Certainly the girls climbing with guys. They might have more in common with me then I think.
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Diva, it's great that you're going to meet more gal pals to climb with. The thing I've learned from meeting people on this site? Age is no barrier to friendship. Many of my climbing partners are older than me, with children and families while I am as single as single comes. So don't think that you can't climb with someone who is younger than you, or better! Almost all my partners climb harder than I do, I think that just makes me want to climb harder in the end too!
To rivery, about the cliques: Perhaps you just think these people are cliques and will not accept you? Many times I find myself thinking that a person or a group of people do not like me, when in reality I have not made the effort to truly come out of my shell around them and open up.
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Thanks for the encourage. I did tell him that age wasn't that important and I simply need to climb to become better. I think he's just so tired of climbing with the kids and I at our level that he doesn't want me along with the gang when they climb hard. Actually I think he has mixed feelings about that. We just need more chances to climb without the kids. I told him I'd belay him on anything 'cause I don't want to hold him back. But enough with my blabbering. I am very excited to find some girls to climb with.
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In reply to: Diva, it's great that you're going to meet more gal pals to climb with. The thing I've learned from meeting people on this site? Age is no barrier to friendship.
Believe it, too. A shared interest in climbing makes you have more in common with a person as opposed to just being the same age. Caving is the same way. Some of my best caving friends were well into their late forties and early fifties when I was in my mid twenties. We were all sufficiently weird to transcend age differences. So it is with climbing.
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I hated the outdoors. Bugs, spiders, no shower wasn't the type of thing that i would like to do for 5 days. I was one of those girly girls. Yeah then I went white water rafting. No shower, bugs, batts, and really really big spiders. I got over it because I had a great time. If you show the girls that being outdoors is a blast then they will come around. LA is all about the way you look and who your with, so I don't know if it's going to be easy to find a girl that likes to smell after climbing for the day. But good luck....
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It really is good to know that there are other athletic/outdoorsy girls out there who have a hard time finding other girls to get outside with. I'm originally from the midwest and moved to socal specifically for the weather and to be surrounded by others who share my love for the outdoors. Well, 8 years later, I'm still looking.
In almost every sport I do, I am the lone girl in the group. There are other girls on the fringes of the group, but when it comes to things like backcountry snowboarding or backpacking trips to Yosemite, it's just me who's there. I have tried to get these girls to come along, but they always have some excuse.
I won't lie, I do love the attention I get from all the guys. But I would just love to have another girl out there to talk girl stuff with (like how hot the other guys at the crag are) :wink: Also, girls tend to push each other in a different way than guys do. I am lucky enough to have a girl mtn bike buddy and I ride so much better with her than I ever do with boys. She just understands and pushes me in a more constructive way. Bummer she's not interested in climbing. :(
So now that I've vented, I want to say that I would love to get together with other socal climbing chicks. I am somewhat girly in that I love pink and light blue, but I am an athlete first and foremost and love to push myself. PM me!
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I'm super lucky because I moved to Lexington where there are many wonderful female climbers who like to spend time together climbing or whatever. It's awesome.
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In reply to: In reply to: You're just new to town, Holly. There's tons of cool climbing and outdoorsy women near you. maybe. though most of the women i've met here haven't been nearly as down-to-earth as the folks back east (men and women alike). though i suppose that's comes with living in boulder. most of the girls/women i see at the crags are climbing with their boyfriends. not that there's anything wrong with that...i guess i just can't relate. it would just be nice to meet some women who climb totally for themselves and aren't afraid to get dirty. ya know?
You MANIAC!! hehe. What am I? Chopped liver? Okay, so we barely met. But you're from Maine, I'm from Maine, You climb, I climb. . . Drop me a line and let's hit it!! We'd have a ton of fun.
You gals have a great resource right here at your fingertips. This site is full of women. And as you can see by this thread, full of women like yourselves who seek the companionship of other like minded women. I see what mountainchick is saying though. Maybe this is the old sorority sister in me talking but sometimes I miss having that kindred spirit/sisterhood thing that I've had in the past with my best friends. Or maybe it's just the part of me that misses my sister. Anyway, my suggestion is. . .buy a bitch. I have one and she's my best friend on the planet. She doesn't steel my boyfriends (when I have them), wear my clothes, read my journal. . .Aside from the drooling and shedding, she's perfect. She loves me unconditionally! hehe
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=36912
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I climb with guys mostly and love it. Love climbing with girls as well...Don't care as long as you are an attentive belay and patient with my slow style of climbing. I love to follow...working up courage to lead. I had a great woman partner....she got pregnant.....me and her husband both temporarily lost a partner....solution? We climb together. Take it where you can get it. Man, Woman....
Hey mother_sheep....have you taught that dog to belay yet? Let me know if you do so you can come teach one for me. :D
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I am in the same boat ! I would love to find another gal to tool around with. I am new to climbing but love to hike, camp, run ect... I live in Washington State... Kinda in the middle between Seattle & Spokane. If any of you gals live in my neighborhood, let me know!!
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Aug 31, 2004, 8:44 AM
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Echo echo...
Me too!
I was talking to a girl I know about this situation, and she said, "Well, do you ever want to get glammed up and get together and pig out and watch romantic movies?"
At which point I paused, "Um,.... sometimes... once in a while? Once in a GREAT while?"
I realized it was gonna be me + guy friends not getting glammed, not pigging out, only grunting like pigs at the local crags.
BUT, there is hope yet. Ever since I started working at REI (the Seattle Flagship store), I've met wickedly fun and adventurous chicks. Yay! I love it when I can talk "girl stuff", like, omg how hot some guy is, and how we oscillate between being "girly girls" (like sharing the love for pastel colors), and having complete disregard for how we look or smell.
I'm also doing the Climb for Life for Ovarian Cancer and met two other girls from the site's forum. We are now driving to Utah together for the ultimate girls night out: an interstate road trip to go climb! I'm mucho excited.
There is a deeper issue here too, I think. Somehow, us girls (not all of us) are highly competitive and jealous of each other, and it often leads to more or less the Envy Complex. Check out this interesting survey
With that said, I am one chick eager to make more female friends. Hi, I'm Nikki, homebase Seattle WA, 22, usually boulder, more and more sport and lead (not yet graduated to trad). My contact information's on my page. PM me, IM me, and see ya around =)
Climbing is love.
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I thank God that I have cool gal friends. If you lined us up, you'd have the 'Jane Goodall,' the 'self-proclaimed prude,' 'the Non-profit Women's Refugee advocate,' and me, 'hipster' - we love our finger sandwhiches, our fresh garden grown veggies and herbs, geeky crafts (latchhooking, cross-stitching, etc.) our cheesy dinner parties and the like. What I love most is that we all love the outdoors - despite our various tastes Anne Klein, Bannana Repulic, The Gap, Limited Express...
However, apart from my close friends, most of the women I have met through work or whatever, are into the whole who's who, shop-til-you-drop and going outdoors means the walk to and from the car to mall. (I live in the DC Metro area).
I just read this - it reads lame. Oh well.
*meow*
In reply to: I just got back from a spring break road trip with my best friend who happens to be a guy. As we were travelling I found that something was missing. Finally I realized it was female companionship. I have close girlfriends, but none of them are into the outdoors. They are either shopaholics or sloths. None of them I feel I can take a road trip with, enjoy the outdoors, or laugh over a spill on a mountain bike, or how smelly we are after 5 days in the backcountry. How have you found good women friends or chicks that enjoy the outdoors like you do? I find it hard, though it shouldn't be here in LA or back home in Colorado. Any thoughts? Cheers! |
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Oh - yeah, and it's hard to get together for a weekend out - except for myself, everyone is married and is starting or growing their families. However, each of us makes time to get outdoors, whether its w/ mine/their partners....we all get out :)
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Ok, I find it hard to believe that I didnt see a reference to this in the last 5 pages, but maybe I missed it. If not, then some of you gals might want to check out SheClimbs, which is a national climbing org for women. My girlfriend has met a bunch of her best climbing buddies through this group, and although it means she is not always climbing with me, I figure if she is happy I'm happy. Check it out
http://www.sheclimbs.org/
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rana75
Sep 7, 2004, 6:49 PM
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i know what you mean. I always climb with men. The only girl i climbed with had her second baby and that became the end of our adventure. Sometimes it is hard because you feel lonely in terms of companionship, although i have really good partners and that keeps me on training. It is the same with mountain bike. No women. I live in Mexico, and climbing here is popular but you see 90% men when you go climbing.
Keep it up girls!.
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craggergirl
Sep 8, 2004, 10:52 PM
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I'm 24 and live in tennessee. I have the same problem as the rest of you. All the pople I have met to climb wtih are guys. None of the girsl I have met seem to be independantly interested, meaning they are only doing it for their boyfriends/husbands. I woud like to meet a girl who really is into climbing. One who can't stand the idea of a manacure or fake nails because you couldn't possibly climb like that and one who when shopping wonders if she could wear whatever it is climbing and one who craves the blisters and calouses that come with hard days of working problems and walking to different craggs. *sigh*
if there are any girls out there in my area or anywhere who are interested in talking or getting together to climb please msg me or email me (lesley_barnett@yahoo.com) also I'm going to bishop, cali for a few months in jan and onto az in april for the bouldering comp so I'll be out that way soon....
searching for climber chickas...
lesley
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hardrock_chik
Sep 20, 2004, 12:58 PM
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I'm always in the outdoors with guys. I hike, climbing, camp etc with em coz I'm hooked and mygirlfriends aren't. I feel like i have my "groups" my climbing buddies and my regular best friends (even though I have one best friend who climbs BUT happens to be a guy)
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rplocek
Sep 24, 2004, 5:23 AM
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Just this afternoon I realized that after having just spent my entire month hanging out with guys (very cool guys!) I really miss having a close, female friend to do crazy chick stuff with. Not only do I miss having someone to con into crazy epic adventures and road-trips, shop with and just talk girl talk with but climbing with another female is so empowering and the atmosphere is different. If there are any other mtn girls in Montana that are feeling this way, give me a hoot. I'll be in Missoula for the next three winters.
Rochelle
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seagypsy
Sep 28, 2004, 3:55 AM
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There is this wild pure kind of joy that I have tapped into when I have climbed with other women...I love climbing with guys. Mostly I climb with guys. But when I climb with women it is different and rare. I surprise myself at how much more over the top we are than the guys with the outrageousness of our humor or wild energy! I worry that anyday now I will fall into a relationship with some great guy I meet out climbing and feel that subtle pressure to climb exclusively with him... and then not have the opportunity to climb with other women as much as when I wasn't in a relationship. I wish there were more opportunities to climb with women-especially with women who climb hard. If any of you are in the vicinity of Northern New Mexico PM me to go out and climb sometime!
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missedyno
Sep 28, 2004, 6:01 PM
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the other night at the gym i tied into to TR a 5.9. a girl who i completely and totally respect for her style and confidence on the rock came over, stuck her face in mine and said "why aren't you leading? you were talking about leading, you're going away in a couple days, untie from the TR and lead this, okay?"
the honestly from a female i respected meant a lot to me. i climb with guys and if they encourage me i just think they're trying to be nice, and i dismiss it quickly.
funny thing, that.
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kimmyt
Sep 28, 2004, 6:08 PM
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The thing I've noticed about climbing with other women, which I find so amazing, is that you can be as strong or as weak as you want. There's a supportive atmosphere to climbing with other women, and also a feeling of being able to push yourself to your limits, but it being okay if those limits aren't as high as your partners. There's no posturing, no ego (and I'm sure this is a factor of who I climb with), a completely unique blend of comfort and humor and quietness. We can be as rowdy as we want or we can be quiet. We can carry on a conversation with each other while we're peeing, we can mock the male's inability to back down from something over their head. We're not worrying about impressing each other, but we are worried about impressing ourselves.
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bad_lil_kitty
Sep 28, 2004, 6:34 PM
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A few weeks ago I met this gal at the climbing facility I am a member at. We geled really well and I am sorry to see her leave, albeit she's got some good things ahead of her :) Even though I am not a strong climber, I appreciated her patience, support and encouragement. Thankfully, she will be back in the D.C. area for business and we plan to climb together during that time. Her bf is also a climber and really the two of them are just cool people to be around. I do look forward to meeting more young women through climbing too!
Yay!
Kitty
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iamthewallress
Sep 28, 2004, 7:31 PM
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In reply to: So yeah, hardcore chicks? We exist. The fact that most of us seem to dismiss other women as girly and shallow on sight probably has a lot to do with the fact that people can't seem to find us. ^_^
So true...
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wjca
Dec 27, 2005, 5:12 PM
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In reply to: I climb with guys mostly and love it. Love climbing with girls as well...Don't care as long as you are an attentive belay and patient with my slow style of climbing. I love to follow...working up courage to lead. I had a great woman partner....she got pregnant.....me and her husband both temporarily lost a partner....solution? We climb together. Take it where you can get it. Man, Woman.... Hey mother_sheep....have you taught that dog to belay yet? Let me know if you do so you can come teach one for me. :D
This same exact thing happened to me, except that it was my wife that got pregnant, so I had to find other climbing partners, including my wife's other female climbing partner. We climbed great together, but I lost her (and all my other partners including her husband) when my wife and I moved.
Now, our son is old enough that we can leave him with a sitter while we go climbing, so I am about to get my climbing partner back. The twist is, we just found out that my wife is pregnant again, so I'm about to lose my climbing partner all over again. And since I lost all my old partners in the move, I now have zero climbing partners, again.
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sg81hani
Dec 29, 2005, 12:29 AM
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In Singapore girls come to the gym either in clusters or with their bf's. Most of them come just for the fun of it and it's seldom that I see the girls really get into climbing. They give up quite easily (maybe cos Asian girls are small and pretty domesticated type???) .
So it's hard to find a female climbing partner n i've been with the guys ever since i started. The attention is nice....but once it gets pumped up with male testerone it'll be nice to have female companionship and have some serious but FUN climbing going on....
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alexis_86
Dec 29, 2005, 11:39 AM
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Most of my girlfriends consider themselves sporty if they've played a game of touch rugby in a skirt within the last year to impress whatever guy they're dating. They're also afraid of breaking a nail and far too busy trying to graduate from university as impressively as possible. And a couple of months ago, one of my girlfriends who's 20 (I'm 19.) told me that "we were too old be fooling around and should look out for guys to settle down with". Yikes. I knew some girls who took a level 1 climbing class, but when I asked them to go climbing they said they weren't interested in climbing, they just took that class for the certification. wtf :?: how weird/depressing is that? Guys are nice people but sometimes, thing would be alot more fun with another girl.
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pebblegem
Jan 4, 2006, 3:40 AM
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Thanks to Luke for the heads up on www.sheclimbs.org :D A cute little site but it still doesn't help me find another GIRL to climb with :( Never mind in CT, I'd be happy to find a climberette with experience somewhere in New England who wouldn't mind showing me the ropes as I am still a beginner. Anyone know of another site besides www.chickswithpicks.net and www.sheclimbs.org?
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wonderwoman
Jan 4, 2006, 4:08 AM
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I've been trying to climb with more and more women lately, and I have really been enjoying it! I met them at the gym or by taking classes or women's weekends.
No offense to my husband or any other guys I climb with! I connect better and learn more from other women climbers.
For the most part, my other girlfriends rock. But they are kind of seasonal!
:D
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nd2boostt
Jan 4, 2006, 5:32 PM
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You know, I am so glad I read this thread. Lately I've been kinda down because I really miss hanging around the few girlfriends that I do have. I never get to see them because I'm always climbing, biking, working out, etc....and none of them do things like that! I'm always around guys, whether it's doing something active or even around my bf's guy friends (I'm friends with them too though). I really miss having close girlfriends and lately I've been wondering what the heck is wrong with me! I'm always saying how difficult it is to meet cool chicks, but guys just don't understand that.
I'm just glad to see that I'm not alone...even if it doesn't help my situation any...
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lewisiarediviva
Jan 4, 2006, 8:12 PM
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Well my most current "out door" girl friend recently proved to my husband what I've been trying to say about her all along.
He tried to tell me she was "tough." I tried to tell him "she's all talk."
Well we started discussing an avalanche class that we were going to go on and I told her I didn't want my husband along (because he already knows this stuff and I can't fully learn it if he's "helping"- as much as I love him). She turned to her husband and started asking things like "what do I wear?" "What am I going to do with out you?" She called me and bailed out. So I'm off on my own- again.
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pebblegem
Jan 4, 2006, 10:17 PM
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OMG this thread is making me feel so not alone! There's one guy I climbed with a few times but, no offense to the guys, I just think I could learn more and rip it up without feeling like such a girrrl! I don't care what anyone says~~> the male body and female body are built differently with strengths and weakenesses in different areas. I really do think I would learn more from a girl who know's what they're doing....Guess I'll hit the gym again- thanks Wonderwoman
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amstone
Jan 5, 2006, 11:21 PM
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WJCA said:
"This same exact thing happened to me, except that it was my wife that got pregnant, so I had to find other climbing partners, including my wife's other female climbing partner. We climbed great together, but I lost her (and all my other partners including her husband) when my wife and I moved.
Now, our son is old enough that we can leave him with a sitter while we go climbing, so I am about to get my climbing partner back. The twist is, we just found out that my wife is pregnant again, so I'm about to lose my climbing partner all over again. And since I lost all my old partners in the move, I now have zero climbing partners, again."
Stone says....
SOLUTION???? Come out to NRG on a regular basis and let me kick your candy ass all over the rock! :wink:
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wjca
Jan 6, 2006, 2:26 PM
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In reply to: Stone says.... SOLUTION???? Come out to NRG on a regular basis and let me kick your candy ass all over the rock! :wink:
Yeah Stone, it's true. I've been out of the game so long that I have probably sunk to candyass level. But I will pass on some words of wisdom my grandfather once told me: "Don't let your alligator eyes write a check that your butterfly ass can't cash." I'll be coming to the New soon enough, and we'll see just how much of a rock warrior you've become.
Chris
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amstone
Jan 7, 2006, 4:41 AM
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Bring it on!!! I can't wait. and BTW....I have 45 dozen Krispy Kreme doughnut cases coming to you as training food...just to help my cause. :lol:
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flashalee
Jan 10, 2006, 10:13 PM
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I feel pretty lucky. My bf got me into climbing here at the only gym in the area. It was pretty much me and all of the other guys at the gym. Now, I am normally that girl who hangs with only guys. I have had too many gfs that slept w/ various boyfriends, my strictly-guy friends, so I really don't have patience for most women. Well, this girl I know started dating a guy that me and the bf really have fun with. She started to go climbing with us, and has become quite good! I now have a climbing buddy! We really get along, and are better friends. There is something about trusting a person not to let you smack the ground that makes a friendship take off.
Now I want more girl climbing buddies! Too bad Pensacola/FWB is so darn flat!
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