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potreroed
Feb 22, 2005, 10:12 PM
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Rikki is a wondeful person and a very good climber. She works for the red cross in Denmark and climbs hard 12's.
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all_that_is_rock
Mar 4, 2005, 5:25 PM
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well the other 90% of climbing mags is pretty much a females visual wonderland. how many muscle bound, shirtless, guy pictures are in a mag compared to 1 or 2 pics of under dressed women.
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Mar 9, 2005, 1:27 AM
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blurr ad's are lame..
and they copped off my nickname i've had for over 12 years now..
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bad_lil_kitty
Mar 9, 2005, 3:47 AM
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In reply to: clip clip clip CFM pumps -- Great edging capabilities for the toes, good arch support, additional height while standing on the heel can be helpful for long moves, the stiletto heel can be jammed in cracks too small for toes. And those funky ankle straps are good for holding dollar bill tips, but that's a different story.
LOL OMG I am disillusioned - thank you for setting me straight LOL that was awesome!
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bad_lil_kitty
Mar 9, 2005, 5:05 PM
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That kicks ass!!!! i love it, tks GT!!!!
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seagypsy
Apr 12, 2005, 5:44 PM
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The issue of ads aside, yeah when they are really photos of women truly climbing that's cool. But the ones that are staged phony shots of women climbing 2 inches off the ground are dumb. You know the types of photos I am talking about right? The kind where a guy stages his girlfriend in a bikini top who doesn't climb very much in a faux bouldering pose and then plasters the image all over the place. *yawn* Boring! I like shots where the woman is REALLY climbing something awesome AND it's sexy. As far as ads go sex sells, nothing new here, yet climbing can be a kind of sensuous activity and then there is all the adrenaline involved...climbing IS sexy! :)
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climberterp
Apr 12, 2005, 6:44 PM
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In reply to: The issue of ads aside, yeah when they are really photos of women truly climbing that's cool. But the ones that are staged phony shots of women climbing 2 inches off the ground are dumb. You know the types of photos I am talking about right? The kind where a guy stages his girlfriend in a bikini top who doesn't climb very much in a faux bouldering pose and then plasters the image all over the place. *yawn* Boring!
ha, that picture sounds awfully familiar to me :wink:
either we know the same person or that annoying scenario has been perpetrated by several people.
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seagypsy
Apr 12, 2005, 7:47 PM
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Hah-hah! could be! BTW I don't object to someone taking photos like this for themselves or for their silly company sponsored photo contest...it's just plain dumb when they parade these faux climbing chick photos around as the real mccoy.
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allicat
Feb 22, 2006, 3:57 AM
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i work at a climbing gym and me and a friend were flipping through one of the magazines, and there was this ad, i don't even know what it was for, i think some sort of quickdraw, but the guy i was looking through the magazine with made such a big deal about how the girl was in her underwear, and with out a bra on because there was a censor bar over her chest, what really was the point of that ad? i don't remember what it was for much less my male friend who couldn't stop looking at the woman.
To me that isn't really selling anything. it takes away from the product because no one is paying attention to it.
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heximp
Feb 25, 2006, 12:23 AM
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Hey,
I just want them to show real climbers... If they are pretty, great! If they are shown in a sexual context because it makes climbing "or a product" more popular; that is good too.
The pictures just have to be of real climbers. Anything else will be less effective in selling the idea that climbers are talented, attractive, and sexy. Since climbers naturally are these, this should not be hard.
In fact, this image is good for us. We need the public to think of us in a positive way. We need the public to like us so much that they actually care about our needs. We then can trust the public to support us with influencing Washington to allow climbers on BLM lands. We will get more media coverage. This will create a bigger market. That means more competition, more sexual advertisements, greater innovations for gear, more areas to climb etc. We then could get Nike sponsorship to cover the climbing cost for our gifted climbers. (Imagine a day when a climber can live well off of climbing. I get chills just thinking about it.)
So... How can we get millions of people to emotionally care about climbing enough to give us money, attention, and political support? Well, they have to get connected to us. The quickest way is through their sexual desires. If they get a crush on one of our public figures, if they admire them, want to be them... If we catch their attention emotionally through visual stimulation, and hold it by enticing them with bits of information... They will support us.
(Yes, sex sells... It is also can be used for power.)
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michaelmcguinn
Feb 26, 2006, 6:40 PM
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A lot of the pictures in the magazines are posed. Yes, even the pictures of real climbers on real routes & boulders.. Just read the lastest articles in the climbing mags about climbing photography. Some of the top photographers answer that very question.
MM
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michaelmcguinn
Feb 26, 2006, 6:45 PM
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A lot of the pictures in the magazines are posed. Yes, even the pictures of real climbers on real routes & boulders.. Just read the lastest articles in the climbing mags about climbing photography. Some of the top photographers answer that very question.
MM
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aimeerose
Mar 4, 2006, 5:00 AM
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Hmm, I think i started a similar thread a while back and I remember getting called a lot of bad names by another woman. Not very nice.
anyways, I think the pics of women in skimpy clothes "climbing" are stupid too. Especially of gals who you know climb strong, but it's a better shot to pose them on a V1 and point the camera down their shirts (recent pic of Angie Payne, in Urban Climber mag about 3 issues ago).
Anyways, who climbs for real in a bikini top anyways. Maybe if you're doing some easy bouldering on the beach, but if you're pulling down, I just can't see how that thing would stay on. I'd rather see a pic of some gal pulling down on a V10 topless.
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michaelmcguinn
Mar 4, 2006, 5:51 AM
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Now why would another gal call a gal from Flagstaff bag names.
Flag Rocks! Ha Ha... very punny.
Michael
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aimeerose
Mar 5, 2006, 5:45 AM
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In reply to: Now why would another gal call a gal from Flagstaff bag names.
Umm, I think maybe she's not a very nice person. Maybe doesn't realize what a cool place Flag is and how we're such a tight knit climbing community and wouldn't act that way towards each other.
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clausti
Mar 5, 2006, 6:08 AM
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In reply to: Hmm, I think i started a similar thread a while back and I remember getting called a lot of bad names by another woman. Not very nice. ...snip... Anyways, who climbs for real in a bikini top anyways. Maybe if you're doing some easy bouldering on the beach, but if you're pulling down, I just can't see how that thing would stay on. I'd rather see a pic of some gal pulling down on a V10 topless.
yeah you got called some names you deserved for saying some very nasty things about women who climb a hell of a lot harder than you.
I've sent 5.12 in a bikini top. not sure if that's hard enough for you. it stays on prety well, and its the next best thing to climbing topless, which SOME of us cant do without getting arrested, seeing as how the constabulary would be able to tell we're female.
edit: 'cause sometimes its FUCKING HOT OUTSIDE when you're climbing. i dunno if you've ever tried to throw down when it was 95 def and 90% humidity, i think i rem reading you're from the west so probably not, but its really hot. you pretty much dont want to be wearing anything more than you have to.
dont bitch about stupid shit.
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dirtineye
Mar 5, 2006, 9:04 AM
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In reply to: dont b---- about stupid s---.
Hmmmm, and just what is it that you are doing right now sweet pea? LOL!
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aimeerose
Mar 5, 2006, 4:17 PM
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In reply to: yeah you got called some names you deserved for saying some very nasty things about women who climb a hell of a lot harder than you.
How do you know how hard I climb anyways. And obviously I didn't deserve to be called the names you called me (which is so childish) otherwise they wouldn't have removed your post.
Out west here, you can climb a lot of places topless or naked and not get arrested. Who's going to arrest you, the deer? Ah, the beauty of living in the west. You're just jealous cause you have to climb in humidity and heat with tons of people around (apparently cops too!)
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comet
Mar 5, 2006, 8:05 PM
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In reply to: Hmm, I think i started a similar thread a while back and I remember getting called a lot of bad names by another woman. Not very nice.
You mean, kind of like the offensive things you said about other women, who, unlike you, were not present to defend themselves?
You might want to reread others' responses to you in the previous thread before calling the kettle black. Clausti wasn't the only one protesting, and with good reason.
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aimeerose
Mar 5, 2006, 8:40 PM
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I call it as I see it. And apparently what I said wasn't offensive enough to be removed by the moderators like what clausti said about me.
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clausti
Mar 5, 2006, 9:35 PM
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In reply to: I call it as I see it. And apparently what I said wasn't offensive enough to be removed by the moderators like what clausti said about me.
the only reason what YOU said didnt get removed is because you didnt use any "swear" words, and the moderation has a narrow view of what needs to be edited for the public's protection.
ya know, as always, just my opinion, but i find "they are only in the magazines because they're doing 40 year old photographers" a lot more offensive than "you stupid c-word." which, btw, you still are.
and as far as getting arrested by the deer, congrats for you. somehow i would think that theres no way that every single time you climb in the summer, you do so bouncing free. you probably wear a tank top, a sports bra, god forbid a bikini top, at some point. maybe what YOU wear and what other ppl wear arent always the same. that is why this is a free country- you do what you want and the rest of us will do what we want. until what you want starts impinging on the rights of others. which, in my opinion, climbing topless around people you dont know probably qualifies as impinging on the rights of others. they didn't ask for that.
oh yeah, and as far as how hard you climb? you have the rating of everything conviently listed on all of your pictures. i think if you'd've climbed anything harder than 12b, it'd be listed. and that's not even as hard as what you bitched about lauren lee being pictured climbing [5.13 something]. maybe you should do a photographer. i hear some ppl say that's a good way to get into magazines.
another btw... this:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=11238
woudl be a cleaveage shot if you had bigger tatas. dont go ragging on other people's choice of photographic angle.
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clausti
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In reply to: And obviously I didn't deserve to be called the names you called me (which is so childish) otherwise they wouldn't have removed your post.
ugh this was so disgusting i had to say something about it specifically.
for starters, honey bunches, they removed THE WHOLE THREAD the first time because they couldnt decide among the horrors and just decided to ax the whole thing. not just my posts. not just anybody elses posts. all of it.
feeling that the thread had certian good points to discuss, i offered to change the wording in my specific posts to bring it more in line with accepted street vocab. the powers that be decided that was enough, and they re-instated the thread.
it had nothing to do with you deserving or not deserving those names, princess. it had to do with the general, public level of tolerance [or lack there of] to specific wording.
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michaelmcguinn
Mar 5, 2006, 11:54 PM
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clausti or someone
Can you give me the other thread. I don't want to step in anyfarther without being educated. (more talk about gals in photos)
MM
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