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bachar
Feb 19, 2006, 6:15 PM
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Obviously I make these things but I just wanted some feedback / opinions from any of you out there who've given them a try! What'chya think ?
(I just registered on RC.com today - not sure what's going on yet!)
Cheers, jb
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beckerw
Feb 19, 2006, 7:07 PM
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my friend likes them. i haven't tried them on, but may be my next pair.
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bachar
Feb 19, 2006, 8:01 PM
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Nice to hear! What model did they get?
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beckerw
Feb 19, 2006, 8:53 PM
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she got the aurora. she mostly climbs vert stuff.
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musicman
Feb 19, 2006, 8:57 PM
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i only know one person who has climbed in them, but they said they were very very comfortable
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scuclimber
Feb 19, 2006, 9:06 PM
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John,
I've only had a chance to demo them at my local climbing gym (Planet Granite, Santa Clara), but I was very impressed with the two or three models I tried. One was the B3 (I think, this was some time ago) and the other was a higher-end lace-up with an odd shaped toebox. I especially like the lace-up. I should have cut my toenails before using it, but that's neither here nor there. I happen to have Morton's Toe and that shoe fit my foot better than many other higher-end shoe out there. I can almost never get high-performance asymetricals to fit me. Anyway, I was very impressed with your product.
Colin
Edit: I think I tried the Chameleon as well, but again, it's been so long.
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brad
Feb 19, 2006, 10:00 PM
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I've been wanting to give them a try. Do you ever have any demo days? Maybe make them available at Nomad's next demo day?
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bachar
Feb 19, 2006, 10:07 PM
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We've tried to get into the Nomad's demo but they don't seem interested! Go figure. Anyway, we do demo days at gyms all over the country. Where you at? I'll post our next demo in your area! Our website has a retailer list for stores nearest you as well. cheers, jb
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roseraie
Feb 19, 2006, 10:10 PM
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I'm absolutely in love with the Auroras. I wore my first pair right through when I was travelling and couldn't find a resoler.
I had a hell of a time tracking down my second pair. Eventually, I got them direct from Berkeley. Where do they retail these days?
The shape has changed slightly since my first pair. The heel (which is why I love them so much, they're the only shoes on the planet that fit my small heel) is now a bit higher profile and much stiffer (I believe as a result of the change of pull-on loops... I liked them better with the one soft loop). Also, I got the exact same size as before but the shoes are bigger than my previous pair, so they're are not as snug as I'd like.
But as long as I can still track down Auroras, I will never switch. They're the perfect level of stiffness for all purposes outdoors. They crack climb well, edge perfectly, and the toe shape is perfect for me. (I climb moderate sport (5.10-5.11) and easy trad, mostly, but I'll follow harder things.)
So yes, I love my Acopas. I'm quite vocal about my undying love, too. Ask anyone I climb with. 8^)
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bachar
Feb 19, 2006, 10:25 PM
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roseraie! glad you love 'em. They shouldn't be any different from the first pair since we haven't changed anything (the pull tab should not really affect the fit but what do I know). Each pair in the same size can feel a little different mostly due to differences in the leather (no two cowhides are exactly the same).
You can always get them online and if they don't fit right the first try we pay shipping until you're satisfied! (small bonus I know but we're trying hard).
J-Tree area? Real Cheap sports has them in Ventura if you get that far one of these days (call first). The new Aurora lace-up is very sweet as well (same last and midsole). If you need more help email me direct - we'll make sure you get a good fit.... Thanks for the input! jb
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brad
Feb 20, 2006, 2:38 AM
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In reply to: We've tried to get into the Nomad's demo but they don't seem interested! Go figure. Anyway, we do demo days at gyms all over the country. Where you at? I'll post our next demo in your area! Our website has a retailer list for stores nearest you as well. cheers, jb |
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chriss
Feb 20, 2006, 5:12 PM
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Couldn't find them locally when I was looking for my last pair. Wanted to try them. Any Seattle area dealers?
chris
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j_ung
Feb 20, 2006, 5:56 PM
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MR seems pretty psyched on them. If you're interested in setting up an editorial review, I'd love to talk more.
Jay
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bachar
Feb 20, 2006, 6:08 PM
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j_ung = jay? No problem! I'd love to do an editorial review. Pop me an email so we can set it up. MR's favorite model is the Spectre by the way...
heh heh, jb
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omenbringer
Feb 20, 2006, 6:10 PM
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I did the review on here for the Aztecs. They were the best shoes I have ever owned. I got mine at REI when they first started carrying them, unfortunately they have stopped carrying them for whatever reason. The only thing I would probably complain about is the durability of the rubber. It was very sticky and supple, however, I wore thru it faster than any of the other types I have used. I will definately be purchasing another pair.
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j_ung
Feb 20, 2006, 6:14 PM
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Yah, that's me. :) Good to meetcha, John. I'll get a note off to you this afternoon.
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holdplease2
Feb 20, 2006, 7:02 PM
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Hey Jay: I have ordered a pair of B3s. You and I could do a joint Booty Crew Review.
From what I hear Acopa is supposed to have the build quality of the old sportivas/boreal with rubber to rival, or even beat 5.10.
Folks, if we want to see shoes from a small manufacturer in the Mountain Shop or Nomads, or our own local retailer we have to ask for them. They won't bring them in if they don't think there is a market.
Maybe our retailers will go out on a limb and bring us something new and different...if we prove to them that we aren't all going to keep buying the same old thing.
-Kate.
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piton
Feb 20, 2006, 7:24 PM
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hey JB you said on the phone you where going to send me free shoes. where are they??
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tgreene
Feb 20, 2006, 7:35 PM
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I've been climbing in Acopa's since 03. 8^)
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stagg54
Feb 20, 2006, 7:43 PM
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Don't buy the sidewinders. I have them and they are terrible. You cant edge at all with the side of your foot. Its on the point of your toe or nothing at all. Plus they are super uncomfortable.
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tgreene
Feb 20, 2006, 7:47 PM
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In reply to: Don't buy the sidewinders. I have them and they are terrible. You cant edge at all with the side of your foot. Its on the point of your toe or nothing at all. Plus they are super uncomfortable.
Since you've made that statement, I think it's only fair that you quantify your statement by including YOUR climbing ability, type of climbing, years, etc. :wink:
In reply to: Our most advanced shoe challenges all climbers to truly re-examine their foot work potential. Unlike "conventional” last shapes, the Sidewinder last is an exact duplicate of the foot in climbing position. If you could dip your foot in rubber, you'd basically have a Sidewinder - a design concept still unchallenged in the climbing world. Extreme Sport Shoe Built On The First True Foot Shaped Last Anatomically Shaped Inside And Outside Edges Tensioned rubber Mid Sole and Arch Anti-Stretch Lacing System Comfortable Padded Mesh Tongue Unlined Leather Uppers 4.2mm Acopa RS Rubber Contoured Rand |
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holdplease2
Feb 20, 2006, 7:53 PM
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Tgreene: Stagg54's profile contains some information of level in the past year.
As of May, 2005 Stagg54 has recorded two routes. A 5.6 toprope and a 5.9 hangdog.
It may be that this was the wrong shoe for the climber at the time. I'd like to hear more on this design, though.
It seems to be Acopa's "original idea" and I'm wondering how it translates into reality. Sometimes I like a big flat edge for edging, I might not want a "foot shape."
-Kate.
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tgreene
Feb 20, 2006, 8:16 PM
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Yea Kate, I checked his profile before I responded, which is why I responded in the manner that I did... :wink:
It sounds to me like the classic example of a guy buying a Ferrari thinking it would make him go faster, meanwhile failing to realize that in order to drive one, you must first know how to work the clutch! :lol:
The Chameleons, being the intermediate of the line, are about as advanced as the top-level shoes of many of the competing big named companies. The B3 which you mentioned, is far beyond the useful capabilities of most climbers out there, and the Sidewinder spanks the B3. :shock:
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j_ung
Feb 20, 2006, 8:21 PM
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Interesting. As coincidence would have it, I just suggested a B3 or a Chameleon to Acopa. Great minds think alike, I guess. :wink:
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