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lewisiarediviva
Oct 18, 2005, 5:05 PM
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In reply to: feminism is just wanting equality for women...in pay, opportunities, respect, etc.
If this is the definition we're using then yes, I'd have to say I am. But I think the way to get it all is to just go out and do what you want to do. If a woman wants to stay home and raise 6 girls, and she gets to do that- than she is a feminist. Right? We should respect her. I have no respect for the girl that becomes vice president of her dad's company and does a crappy job.
As to Barbie and Math. Funny how much math I teach both my daughter and my son while baking and shopping. In fact when my daughter was 8 and stressed out about the school year because she was going to learn how to divide- I said "How many rows of cookies will you have if I don't want any more than 12 cookies on the tray and you have 3 cookies in a row?" She thought for a second, and said "4." I said "Their, you just divided." She was stunned.
Math is hard, it's not like learning to walk or breath. Reading is hard too (just go volunteer in your local 1st grade). I think Barbie was right to go shopping if she thought Math was hard. What a fun way to learn!
My point is that I avoid getting caught up in what is feminist or not, because I want each person to live up to their potential- with their gifts. If you are stereotypical in any way- well their may be good reason for it. But stereotypes should not hinder anyone to do or not do what they want to do.
(I realize that I may not have actually answered the question on hand. But these are my thoughts. I do think it an excellent question. But I know a few Good Girlie Girls that you could consider feminist with the above definition.)
Live Happy. Be Strong.
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thebk
Mar 21, 2007, 7:24 PM
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well befor i was a climber, i was considered a tomboy. but i relized that i was just a girl that i was just a girl climber that just says dude a lot. and utterly hates pink.
eh... i have seen other girls using pink chalk bags, where as me... i use a camo one.
i guess that we shoudent realy juge people by the way they look or by there chalk bag
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alxg
Mar 21, 2007, 11:49 PM
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DIRT BARBIE'S RULE!!!!!!!!
i love to get dirty with the best of 'em- but i love to put the little black dress on with the sandles...
a buddy of mine even gave me a tshirt she found on the web that says "Dirt Barbie" and has a pict of a barbie doll complete with harness, shoes, trad gear, helmet and rope (thanks dirt debbie)...
uh, is it really painting your toe nails when you do it to keep them from cracking because your technical shoes are tight??????
i also know a couple of guy climbers that do that so does that make them "Dirt Ken"?
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bolderer
Mar 23, 2007, 10:39 PM
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i tossed all my skirts several years ago and haven't looked back. growing up, all tomboy - i was raised by my dad and had one brother. i SO coveted his hand-me-downs. i can go to school wearing something and go straight to the gym and climb in it. if i have to get fancy, i have the Maxazaria suit, silk shirt, etc. i don't know any women who climb who are what i would call "girly" - that brings to my mind the annoying chattery sorority type who talks too loudly on her cell phone in public places, all the while wearing her rainbow flip flops, pink polo shirt and short denim skirt.
(This post was edited by bolderer on Mar 23, 2007, 10:40 PM)
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petsfed
Mar 25, 2007, 9:58 PM
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thebk wrote: well befor i was a climber, i was considered a tomboy. but i relized that i was just a girl that i was just a girl climber that just says dude a lot. and utterly hates pink. eh... i have seen other girls using pink chalk bags, where as me... i use a camo one. i guess that we shoudent realy juge people by the way they look or by there chalk bag
Pink in climbing is a fashion statement. It states "I think everybody would look better in flamboyantly colored lycra".
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aerili
Mar 28, 2007, 6:47 PM
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[quote "lil_rockgirl"] This is the perfect question for me! I'm still in a huge identity crisis with this. :D
I'm a retired professional ballerina of the Russian Kirov Ballet. My favorite color has and always will be PINK. Up until about three years ago, my biggest concern was my weight! I'm not sure how much more girly a girl can get. (no comments please!)
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I used to dance for 10 years (but was not nearly of the caliber that lil rockgirl clearly was). Although the trappings that surround female ballet dancers may seem girly (especially if you're doing 18th century choreography), I think ballet is way hardcore. Ballet was more physically and mentally demanding than any other sport I ever played. Teachers could also be meaner than any coach I ever had.
Ballet involves sweating your ass off, f*cking your feet up (climbers should try stuffing their feet into toe shoes someday...climbing shoes will feel heavenly), and just pushing your body to the limit most days. It's a contact sport too...I've gotten kicked, hit in the face, dropped, you name it. Contemporary choreography requires you to often roll around on a dirty floor too. Yeah, it could be totally hardcore...just minus the dirt and rope grime.
Women need to stop putting themselves in a box. I refuse to be labeled. I live in two worlds and move between them with ease. I like wearing skirts just as much as zip-off pants. I even own two pairs of FM shoes (you know, those heeled kind of shoes that just say "F*ck Me"). Scrapes, bruises and scars accompany the shoes on most days.
There is no dichotomy to being who you are.
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amikros
Mar 31, 2007, 9:15 PM
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I'm in a sorority.
I love rainbow flip flops
And if I'm not climbing or at work, I live in my denim skirts in the summer.
I'm not trying to argue with you or anything, but it seems ridiculous that in climbing, there's really only one type of female that's acceptable.
Some people would say that sororities are like that, but I've found girls in the sororities at my college to be exponentially more open minded than a fair portion of the climbing community.
For ex., why should people think I'm not sincere about learning to climb just because I wear polos, or am in a sorority or what-have-you?
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bolderer
Apr 8, 2007, 9:52 PM
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ok. i live in a town where there are three universities within 25 mile radius and i have never met a sorority type rock wrangler. so congrats, you're my first.
p.s. but what about the pink polo?
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amikros
Apr 8, 2007, 10:02 PM
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I only have a white and a blue polo...lost the pink one 
I understand that a Greek Letter wearing, rock climbing chick is rare, I just wish the climbing community at large was more open to the idea of such a person...
You would be amazed how many people think I climb to impress some guy...or am simply cracked out. no pun intended. 
bad joke, bad joke. i know.
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BeachBunny
Apr 8, 2007, 10:31 PM
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G'day Gals 
I dress kind of preppy.
I just dress how I want, but way cute. It depends of my mood, I've no problem wearing pink, I love denim skirts, flip flops & my Polo's.
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bolderer
Apr 12, 2007, 11:53 AM
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but...do you send?
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