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PepsiTwist


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quiteatingmysteak wrote:
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Valarc wrote:

It's a lot of fun, it's a source of a good workout and a creative outlet for routesetters, but it sure as hell ain't a substitute for climbing real rock.

Real rock isn't even DESIGNED for climbing. Plastic holds are designed ergonomically and for climbing.


Why would I want to climb anything that's not specifically designed to be climbed?

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FUCK YOU condescending PRICK. You dont know SHIT about real climbing. I bet if you saw a real 5.12 you would SHIT YOUR PANTS you pondscum retard. I have been climbing for almost FIVE YEARS and not ONCE have i climbed in a gym except to go bouldering, and it is NOT nearly as good! When you can climb a route like Double Cross or Robbins Crack you can start to talk shit, but until than, shut the FUCK UP.



Serioulsy its pretentious NOOBS like you that are the fucking DEATH of this sport. someday you will forget to tie in, and fall, and probably DIE or even get HURT because you are so STUPID. GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!


And why do you argue with all the REAL climbers here?? A simple search of the people you 'pretend' to argue with show that they climb MUCH harder than you could imagine, in some of the GREATEST climbing areas on earth. When you can go do routes in West Virginia or Texas you can say you knwo what good rock quality is. Until than stick to Supertop with all the noobs and leave the real climbers the fuck alone.


Yeah, cause you dont look like a complete tool now. I'd like to point out that I would say you climb just as hard as the fella your flaming there, not that your ability to pull big numbers makes you any more legitimate as a climber.

Seriously, do everybody a favor and next time you feel like making a jack-ass out of yourself, give us a bit of a heads up so we can make popcorn and get comfy.


quiteatingmysteak


Sep 25, 2007, 4:32 AM
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you have FIVE posts yet NO common sense!!!!!!!!!!


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take some vallium. please.

no really, and some muscle relaxers while you're at it.


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 " When you can go do routes in West Virginia or Texas you can say you knwo what good rock quality is. Until than stick to Supertop with all the noobs and leave the real climbers the fuck alone."

My local gym is taller than anything in West Virginia and Texas put together! So STFU nOOb!


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shu wrote:
" When you can go do routes in West Virginia or Texas you can say you knwo what good rock quality is. Until than stick to Supertop with all the noobs and leave the real climbers the fuck alone.
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My local gym is taller than anything in West Virginia and Texas put together! So STFU nOOb!
YOUR so OBSESSED with GYMS that I would think not only do you WORK at a gym (like an IDIOT) BUT you probably CLIMB at the gym, which again, you likely WORK at!


If theres one thing I hate about people working in gyms, its when they do STUPED ASUMPTIONS on a WE BISITE assuming the know WTF THEY MEAN!


TALLER THAN A REAL ROCK? Yeah right IDIOT you should look at THE GALLERY at RED ROCKS its so fucking steep you would INSTANTLY poop and pee at the same time (and smell accordingly). I heard that theres this one route like 12d that bakar free climbed thats never yet been done before!!!!


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"YOUR so OBSESSED with GYMS that I would think not only do you WORK at a gym (like an IDIOT) BUT you probably CLIMB at the gym, which again, you likely WORK at!
If theres one thing I hate about people working in gyms, its when they do STUPED ASUMPTIONS on a WE BISITE assuming the know WTF THEY MEAN!
TALLER THAN A REAL ROCK? Yeah right IDIOT you should look at THE GALLERY at RED ROCKS its so fucking steep you would INSTANTLY poop and pee at the same time (and smell accordingly)."


So you think it is okay for me to change the grade? You also seem pretty hard on gym climbers, don't you think it is somewhat helpful? When I talked to a rep from a big company, they said gym climbing definitely helps to get sponsors to notice you.


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quiteatingmysteak wrote:
shu wrote:
" When you can go do routes in West Virginia or Texas you can say you knwo what good rock quality is. Until than stick to Supertop with all the noobs and leave the real climbers the fuck alone.
"

My local gym is taller than anything in West Virginia and Texas put together! So STFU nOOb!

YOUR so OBSESSED with GYMS that I would think not only do you WORK at a gym (like an IDIOT) BUT you probably CLIMB at the gym, which again, you likely WORK at!


If theres one thing I hate about people working in gyms, its when they do STUPED ASUMPTIONS on a WE BISITE assuming the know WTF THEY MEAN!


TALLER THAN A REAL ROCK? Yeah right IDIOT you should look at THE GALLERY at RED ROCKS its so fucking steep you would INSTANTLY poop and pee at the same time (and smell accordingly). I heard that theres this one route like 12d that bakar free climbed thats never yet been done before!!!!
Amazingly, what I thought was a weaksauce troll attempt was apparently sufficient to bait the crowd over at SuperTopo. Well played.

http://www.supertopo.com/...6&tn=0#msg455381


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shu wrote:
It's definitely acceptable, and even encouraged to upgrade routes.

The first step is to notify the guidebook author that he rated the route wrong, and suggest your new rating.

If you are unsure whether it's 11b or 11c, just round up. It makes everyone feel better.

The climbing community is very lucky to have climbing gyms, it is a place where we can go and become familiar with ratings so that we can then go outside and fix all the wildly varying outside ratings.

If that 5.10- feels harder than the blue 5.11b proj you're working in the gym, the rating must be wrong, and it is your duty to the climbing community to upgrade it.

h ha ! Laugh Exactly.

Also.....

I heard California gyms are constantly 2-3 grades harder than Massachusetts gyms too.

So you need to add the state abbreviation to the end of the grade to get a real feel for it. I hear that from the professionals all the time. So 5.10c CA is really about 5.9 MA or 5.9 CT - in fact anywhere on the East Coast except any gym Henry Barber has ever climbed in.

Then it's equal.

I hope that helps settle all this arguing and yelling. Well, it will help until the French and the Germans get here anyway.


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Fuck the euros.


I read in an Alpinist that Alex Huber uses tick marks... commie bastard.


mturner


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quiteatingmysteak wrote:
Fuck the euros.


I read in an Alpinist that Alex Huber uses tick marks... commie bastard.

Don't you dare try to make this into another thread about tick marks. Mad


PepsiTwist


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quiteatingmysteak wrote:
you have FIVE posts yet NO common sense!!!!!!!!!!

Since when did ones' post count become the merit by which we judge ones' comment?

Perhaps it has always been that way. I honestly feel it unnecessarily to point out the failures of such a system. I do, however, pity the essence of your being for even using that as a rebuttal.


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PepsiTwist wrote:
quiteatingmysteak wrote:
you have FIVE posts yet NO common sense!!!!!!!!!!

Since when did ones' post count become the merit by which we judge ones' comment?

Perhaps it has always been that way. I honestly feel it unnecessarily to point out the failures of such a system. I do, however, pity the essence of your being for even using that as a rebuttal.


My POINT is still VALID.... How about a solo off scaredy cat? Any boulder problem you want.



now you have SIX posts ONE for EACH of your BRAIN CELLS!!!!!!!!!!!


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You're absolutely right..real rock SUCKS!

Stay in the gym man! :)

Angelic

shu wrote:
Valarc wrote:

It's a lot of fun, it's a source of a good workout and a creative outlet for routesetters, but it sure as hell ain't a substitute for climbing real rock.

Real rock isn't even DESIGNED for climbing. Plastic holds are designed ergonomically and for climbing.


Why would I want to climb anything that's not specifically designed to be climbed?

Forgot to write anything edit


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So, I suppose we could sit here trolling each other all day long. Though the entertaining thing is that you dont even realize you're being trolled. Hm.. think about, go talk to your mom, and when she explains what just happened, come back and apologize for your stupidity. Or atleast relay her apology to us, God know's she owes the world one.


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PepsiTwist wrote:
So, I suppose we could sit here trolling each other all day long. Though the entertaining thing is that you dont even realize you're being trolled. Hm.. think about, go talk to your mom, and when she explains what just happened, come back and apologize for your stupidity. Or atleast relay her apology to us, God know's she owes the world one.


my mom died when i was born, so it's kind of hard to ask her anything.


wildthing14


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wow!! this turned into one hell of a troll.....Pepsi twist got it right -"Seriously, do everybody a favor and next time you feel like making a jack-ass out of yourself, give us a bit of a heads up so we can make popcorn and get comfy. " i'm all for outdoor climbing but seriously, it's not like all the gyms need to burn, they're not that bad Wink


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Meh, who would've guessed she'd be the lucky one.

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