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winglessangel
Oct 20, 2007, 4:45 PM
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We always talk about this place, someone always says in anger, "man, someday I'll get there with water and soap and clean that sh*t, and I don't care if someone is working on a route or whatever. They will just have to deal with the wet rock and that is it"
.. too bad no one ever really did it 
someone even commented: http://www.rockclimbing.com/...ita_5.12a__7306.html
(This post was edited by winglessangel on Oct 20, 2007, 4:46 PM)
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moditup
Oct 20, 2007, 6:21 PM
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DanDeToilet
Oct 21, 2007, 1:18 AM
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qwert
Oct 21, 2007, 10:15 AM
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to be fair, at least on limestone (contrary to sandstone) chalk is good for the rock (apart from the looks).
it neutralizes the componenents of the hand sweat, that damage the rock.
without chalk, the holds wouldnt be white, but polished so much that they would mirror the souroundings.
qwert
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lrossi
Oct 21, 2007, 2:44 PM
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qwert wrote: to be fair, at least on limestone (contrary to sandstone) chalk is good for the rock (apart from the looks). it neutralizes the componenents of the hand sweat, that damage the rock. without chalk, the holds wouldnt be white, but polished so much that they would mirror the souroundings. qwert
qwert, I'm a big fan of chalk (being the owner of very sweaty hands) so I would love to believe that, but I'm having trouble. Do you have a reference to something vaguely scientific to back that up?
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Rocknovice
Oct 21, 2007, 10:58 PM
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We were climbing Crimson Chrysalis day before yesterday and someone drew chalk arrows on the route. If only I took a picture...
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JohnCook
Oct 21, 2007, 11:25 PM
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Big difference between hand prints and actually marking the holds. Many older routes/lower grade routes were done without chalk. Maybe it should count as aid on easier routes.
P.S the sweat used to rot jeans where I wiped my hands before getting a hold in hot weather. It can etch away the polish on limestone , leaving a very thin layer of fine dust, but if chalk is used it is changed, hence the slippery mess on some overchalked limestone routes, beacause the fine chalk allows a much quicker reaction with the sweat and turns into a slippery slime (From experience in southern France, where they also get very hot weather. Last summers shade temps were as high as 43 C) I can spend some time researching the chemistry if anyone is that desparate
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