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socalclimber
May 13, 2010, 2:42 AM
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Gmburns2000 wrote: socalclimber wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: socalclimber wrote: Most solo belay devices make use of a chest harness/sit harness to keep you upright in a fall. I understand that, but what is a Croll? Here's a quick link. I think we posted on top of one another. http://www.amazon.com/...der-by/dp/B001UJGOYGthanks. not sure if it would need one or not, but I'm a bit leery of using anything with teeth like that. also, I haven't heard much of anyone using ascenders like that for self belay on lead. i've heard of people using them for TR, but not on lead. anyway, I didn't mean for us to get off topic.
I'm not exactly sure this is entirely off topic. There are a number of ways to rig solo systems. The croll has been in use for a lot of years in caving.
I completely understand the concern regarding the "teeth".
Not my first choice that's for sure!
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tedman
May 27, 2010, 10:48 PM
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belaying the second up directly off the anchor with a cinch (or grigri) is something worth noting too. Feeds waaaay smoother than ATC/Reverso in guide mode. Also whipping up a 3-1 pulley (or anything else that requires escaping the belay) is childs play with the cinch on the anchor.
Take mine on all my outings, cinch+atc for raps.
on the cinch vs grigri, the cinch is superior in every way, albeit very slightly (granted I dont rope solo or set routes). If you have a grigri, probly not worth converting unless you have gobs of cash just floating around just waiting to be spent.
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deltav
May 28, 2010, 1:20 AM
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Coming from the point of view of a guide, I love the Cinch (& GriGri). Not only do I use them while guiding, but also in my recreational climbing. Having an auto locking device make a lot of things easier (hauling, potential rescues, belaying a second that falls a lot, etc). Either device should be looked at as a tool, that in the right hands can be quite valuable.
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