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dingus
Jun 2, 2010, 1:29 PM
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waveknave wrote: Hello climbers, Ever have endless restless nights dreaming about your nut tool borrowing a home in your leg or gut?
No, my nut tool can't get financing, so no worries there.
DMT
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mikebee
Jun 2, 2010, 2:16 PM
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I'm another believer in the leader carrying their own nut too as well as the second. I find that having the nut tool handy as a leader is good for the reasons already mentioned, but also for pushing and pulling a sling through a thin, narrow thread.
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mtselman
Jun 2, 2010, 2:33 PM
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waveknave wrote: Hello climbers, Ever have endless restless nights dreaming about your nut tool borrowing a home in your leg or gut? I do too. Being new to trad, I was given the Wild Country Pro Key. http://www.supertopo.com/...Wild-Country-Pro-Key What is a safe way to carry these eight inch daggers while climbing? My tool has a mind of it's own and I think that one day I'll wake up wondering if I should just push it through or pull it out fast.
Try ice climbing. After a season or so you will think that a nut tool is completely harmless.
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j_ung
Jun 2, 2010, 2:39 PM
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camhead wrote: clews wrote: just clip it to your harness gate out that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you Yeah, then the hook just catches on edges and throws you off balance in the middle of a crux. I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it.
I dunno about gumbies only (maybe it's more of a preference thing?), but I don't normally carry one when leading. It seems to me that on the rare occasions I needed one while leading, I didn't have juice to hang around screwing with it anyway.
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camhead
Jun 2, 2010, 2:48 PM
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j_ung wrote: camhead wrote: clews wrote: just clip it to your harness gate out that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you Yeah, then the hook just catches on edges and throws you off balance in the middle of a crux. I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it. I dunno about gumbies only (maybe it's more of a preference thing?), but I don't normally carry one when leading. It seems to me that on the rare occasions I needed one while leading, I didn't have juice to hang around screwing with it anyway.
Yeah, I usually figure that if it's stuck, it's pro. Climb higher for a better placement, and above all, FTS!
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hafilax
Jun 2, 2010, 2:57 PM
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I've certainly used mine on lead as a garden hoe on the vertical dirt river known as the Chief.
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summerprophet
Jun 2, 2010, 3:05 PM
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I dunno if I just climb differently than you guys, but my nut tool has rarely left my harness in the last 15 or so years. It has never shanked me, nor caught on anything more problematic than the bottom hem of my shorts.
I have a pair of the old BD tools and clip them opposed, perhaps that helps.
Why two? Any booty gear pirate will know why.
I have bootied enough gear to provide my little brother with a pretty good starter rack.
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guangzhou
Jun 3, 2010, 12:42 AM
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summerprophet wrote: I dunno if I just climb differently than you guys, but my nut tool has rarely left my harness in the last 15 or so years. It has never shanked me, nor caught on anything more problematic than the bottom hem of my shorts. I have a pair of the old BD tools and clip them opposed, perhaps that helps. Why two? Any booty gear pirate will know why. I have bootied enough gear to provide my little brother with a pretty good starter rack.
Mine mostly gets used for gardening on first ascents. Even when cleaning nuts, I rarely have to sue mine.
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acorneau
Jun 3, 2010, 1:00 AM
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guangzhou wrote: Mine mostly gets used for gardening on first ascents. Even when cleaning nuts, I rarely have to sue mine.
I've never sued a nut tool before, or even any kind of tool. What kind of lawyer do you have to retain for something like that?
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moose_droppings
Jun 3, 2010, 1:26 AM
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acorneau wrote: guangzhou wrote: Mine mostly gets used for gardening on first ascents. Even when cleaning nuts, I rarely have to sue mine. I've never sued a nut tool before, or even any kind of tool. What kind of lawyer do you have to retain for something like that?
A tool of a lawyer.
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guangzhou
Jun 3, 2010, 1:33 AM
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acorneau wrote: guangzhou wrote: Mine mostly gets used for gardening on first ascents. Even when cleaning nuts, I rarely have to sue mine. I've never sued a nut tool before, or even any kind of tool. What kind of lawyer do you have to retain for something like that?
One who is not afraid to get his hands dirty.
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MS1
Jun 3, 2010, 3:40 AM
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guangzhou wrote: acorneau wrote: guangzhou wrote: Mine mostly gets used for gardening on first ascents. Even when cleaning nuts, I rarely have to sue mine. I've never sued a nut tool before, or even any kind of tool. What kind of lawyer do you have to retain for something like that? One who is not afraid to get his hands dirty.
Call the Hammer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFZigCwRhI8
He is up for it.
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tedman
Jun 3, 2010, 7:37 PM
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got mine attached to one of those spring loaded zip lines for keys. No more fumbling with biners, just pull it out, when yer done just guide it back to the harness and let go. It will occasionally get snagged on something and the line will come taught at about foot level. easy enough to free it with a toe. The line is probly rated to all of 20lbs, but its been enough for me so far.
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hafilax
Jun 3, 2010, 10:31 PM
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tedman wrote: got mine attached to one of those spring loaded zip lines for keys. No more fumbling with biners, just pull it out, when yer done just guide it back to the harness and let go. It will occasionally get snagged on something and the line will come taught at about foot level. easy enough to free it with a toe. The line is probly rated to all of 20lbs, but its been enough for me so far.
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chadnsc
Jun 4, 2010, 12:20 AM
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hafilax wrote: tedman wrote: got mine attached to one of those spring loaded zip lines for keys. No more fumbling with biners, just pull it out, when yer done just guide it back to the harness and let go. It will occasionally get snagged on something and the line will come taught at about foot level. easy enough to free it with a toe. The line is probly rated to all of 20lbs, but its been enough for me so far. My partner has gone through a couple of those things. It's not convenient when they decide to explode.
Is it a small boom or a big boom?
Do you have to check your biners for micro-fractures after it blow'd up?
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hafilax
Jun 4, 2010, 12:25 AM
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chadnsc wrote: hafilax wrote: tedman wrote: got mine attached to one of those spring loaded zip lines for keys. No more fumbling with biners, just pull it out, when yer done just guide it back to the harness and let go. It will occasionally get snagged on something and the line will come taught at about foot level. easy enough to free it with a toe. The line is probly rated to all of 20lbs, but its been enough for me so far. My partner has gone through a couple of those things. It's not convenient when they decide to explode. Is it a small boom or a big boom? Do you have to check your biners for micro-fractures after it blow'd up?
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evanwish
Jun 6, 2010, 4:53 AM
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petsfed wrote: camhead wrote: I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it. Only time I carry one on lead is if I expect to screw up a nut placement. So, aid climbing, which brings us right back to where we started from.
Not to mention with some aid climbing you have a huge rack of hooks that catch EVERYTHING and pitons... Kind of puts the "problems" of a nut tool in perspective! Ha
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wonderwoman
Jun 6, 2010, 4:20 PM
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If I can nearly strangle from my helmet straps, I suppose that you could certainly find a way to become impaled via nut tool.
This thread gives me a great idea, though. Next time someone makes me upset at the crag, I am going to challenge them to a nut tool duel!
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cush
Jun 6, 2010, 4:29 PM
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i've also seen a technique i really like. they put the nut tool on about 8 inches of elastic cord around their wrist. that way, with a flick of the wrist you can pop it back into your hand, and if you drop it you don't need to worry. you just need to make sure it's on a long enough cord that it doesn't become a hindrance when you're climbing.
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rgold
Jun 7, 2010, 12:06 AM
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As a new trad leader there are about a bazillion things you need to worry about a whole lot more than this.
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qwert
Jun 10, 2010, 5:47 PM
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I kinda asked something similar, since DMM adviced against directly clipping a nuttool:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...4;page=unread#unread
I still carry my nut tool directly in a biner, and so far i am still alive.
Also i am a gumby, since i carry it always ( i even leave it on the harness for sport climing ...)
Also Also it indeed seems all harmless compared to iceclimbing.
qwert
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