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cmagee1
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bearbreeder wrote: once you get past the initial investment ... i think climbing is actually one of the cheaper sports you can do ... Way way way harder than it sounds. Im a high school student. I dont have 500 bucks to drop on a rope, shoes, harness, quickdraws, webbing, biners, pro, etc... Im doing a lot of borrowing... And bouldering.
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On either end of the financial spectrum there there exists a leisure class. That is all.
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chadnsc wrote: camhead wrote: the only difference that I've seen in the climbing community during the recession is WAY more people getting laid off and going to Thailand. Cry me a fucking river. Hey I'm not going off to Thailand. Well that's cuz I hate the food but still, I'm not going. Try the Pad Thai Lutefisk. Curt
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erisspirit wrote: camhead wrote: the only difference that I've seen in the climbing community during the recession is WAY more people getting laid off and going to Thailand. Cry me a fucking river. good call... I'll keep this in mind if they lay me off next month. When I was supposed to get laid off last year, I was going to get a few grand severance pay. My plan was to move into my truck, go to the nearest awesome climbing destination and live like a good dirtbag should I've heard only great things about Thailand. I've had a few climbing friends that went there in the winters. You can live in hotels supposedly for $6.00 a day with food. The food is suppose to be good there as well . It might even be considered a paradise. Climb at the beach , relax in the ocean. Swim, eat, drink and friendly, happy climbers enjoying life. As gas prices go up. so will food, and everything else dependent on fuel in the U.S, and other countries. Hopefully erisspirit you won't get laid off. However if you do , I can't see any downside to Thailand. Other than the airfare. As well as missing your family and friends for a few months.
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cmagee1 wrote: Way way way harder than it sounds. Im a high school student. I dont have 500 bucks to drop on a rope, shoes, harness, quickdraws, webbing, biners, pro, etc... Im doing a lot of borrowing... And bouldering. cmagee1 ... if yr a high school student you have something durty old men want ... just offer to bivy with them in exchange for their wordly knowledge and gear seriously though ... if you shop around for sales i dont think itll cost you $500 and if you climb with someone regularly you can split buying some of the gear
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sbaclimber
Jan 19, 2011, 9:27 AM
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bearbreeder wrote: seriously though ... if you shop around for sales i dont think itll cost you $500 He mentioned 'pro'. So, unless he(she?) is climbing in the elbsandsteingebirge (knots only), yes, it most likely will. My first rope + rack cost 2/3 retail (mega sale), and I still ended up paying $400. It consisted of: 1) cheap-ass rope (50m no dry treatment) 2) cheapest carabiners available at the time (35x BD ovals and light-Ds) 3) runners 4) 2 sets of BD wires If you throw shoes, harnes and maybe a bit more/other pro into the mix, it is definitely going to cost more than $500 @cmagee1: keep up the good fight! and build your rack piece by piece. If you're bouldering, I assume you have shoes. Next step, harness + belay device ($50). After that, rope + quickdraws ($150-200). Trad gear can wait awhile...
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adam14113
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with a will there is a way
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chadnsc
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curt wrote: chadnsc wrote: camhead wrote: the only difference that I've seen in the climbing community during the recession is WAY more people getting laid off and going to Thailand. Cry me a fucking river. Hey I'm not going off to Thailand. Well that's cuz I hate the food but still, I'm not going. Try the Pad Thai Lutefisk. Curt Tried it. they f#*ked up the lutefisk and ruined the whole dish.
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qwert
Jan 19, 2011, 4:08 PM
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What recession? Where? The only thing i can relate to is the high gas prices. 1.5€/l, or in your medieval units 6.75€/gal or about 9$ per gallon. So stop fucking whining about your "high gas prices"! qwert
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cmagee1 wrote: bearbreeder wrote: once you get past the initial investment ... i think climbing is actually one of the cheaper sports you can do ... Way way way harder than it sounds. Im a high school student. I dont have 500 bucks to drop on a rope, shoes, harness, quickdraws, webbing, biners, pro, etc... Im doing a lot of borrowing... And bouldering. Cheaper than others doesn't mean free.
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sbaclimber
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qwert wrote: What recession? Where? The only thing i can relate to is the high gas prices. 1.5€/l, or in your medieval units 6.75€/gal or about 9$ per gallon. So stop fucking whining about your "high gas prices"! qwert hehe....the irony is Amiland didn't even "exist" as such in the middle ages btw, 1.5€/l is currently *only* about 7.67USD/gallon edit: ^^ US gallons of course
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chadnsc
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qwert wrote: What recession? Where? The only thing i can relate to is the high gas prices. 1.5€/l, or in your medieval units 6.75€/gal or about 9$ per gallon. So stop fucking whining about your "high gas prices"! qwert Apparently Germans have high gas prices and because of that can't reply to a post properly.
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sbaclimber
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chadnsc wrote: qwert wrote: What recession? Where? The only thing i can relate to is the high gas prices. 1.5€/l, or in your medieval units 6.75€/gal or about 9$ per gallon. So stop fucking whining about your "high gas prices"! qwert Apparently Germans have high gas prices and because of that can't reply to a post properly. <- me, myself and I laughing...
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Jan 19, 2011, 7:56 PM
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cmagee1 wrote: bearbreeder wrote: once you get past the initial investment ... i think climbing is actually one of the cheaper sports you can do ... Way way way harder than it sounds. Im a high school student. I dont have 500 bucks to drop on a rope, shoes, harness, quickdraws, webbing, biners, pro, etc... Im doing a lot of borrowing... And bouldering. Maybe it's time for a McJob.
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Jan 19, 2011, 8:02 PM
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Kartessa wrote: cmagee1 wrote: bearbreeder wrote: once you get past the initial investment ... i think climbing is actually one of the cheaper sports you can do ... Way way way harder than it sounds. Im a high school student. I dont have 500 bucks to drop on a rope, shoes, harness, quickdraws, webbing, biners, pro, etc... Im doing a lot of borrowing... And bouldering. Maybe it's time for a McJob. Those can be surprisingly hard to find right now.
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Jan 19, 2011, 8:38 PM
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chadnsc wrote: Kartessa wrote: cmagee1 wrote: bearbreeder wrote: once you get past the initial investment ... i think climbing is actually one of the cheaper sports you can do ... Way way way harder than it sounds. Im a high school student. I dont have 500 bucks to drop on a rope, shoes, harness, quickdraws, webbing, biners, pro, etc... Im doing a lot of borrowing... And bouldering. Maybe it's time for a McJob. Those can be surprisingly hard to find right now. Pfft I'm in Michigan, aka worst economy in the nation, and there are still help wanted signs on the fast food stores. My neice landed a taco bell job and she just turned 16, doesn't even have license yet. Like someone already said, where there's a will there's a way. Unless you want a good job with bennies, then I'd suggest moving far far away from here.
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qwert
Jan 19, 2011, 9:15 PM
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sbaclimber wrote: qwert wrote: What recession? Where? The only thing i can relate to is the high gas prices. 1.5€/l, or in your medieval units 6.75€/gal or about 9$ per gallon. So stop fucking whining about your "high gas prices"! qwert hehe....the irony is Amiland didn't even "exist" as such in the middle ages Yes, i know, but units that have been made up more or less arbitrarily, or oriented on the size of some specific local units did exist in those times, and got carried on and spread, until the SI system got invented. However a few countries are still stuck in the dark ages
In reply to: btw, 1.5€/l is currently *only* about 7.67USD/gallon edit: ^^ US gallons of course WHAT? There are even different gallons? Madness. qwert
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Jan 19, 2011, 9:16 PM
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and, yes, i do have nothing of value to contribute to this thread. qwert
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sbaclimber
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qwert wrote: and, yes, i do have nothing of value to contribute to this thread. qwert hey, entertainment has its own value! ....and all that BS with gallons, miles, inches and so on...blame it on the english! At least the Amis didn't adopt 'stone', 'pence', 'schilling' and 'fag'! ....oh....um...forget that last one... to be fair, the poms at least got rid of schillings, pence and such. f'd knows why they still use 'stone'
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Jan 19, 2011, 9:25 PM
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A recession? I'd be inclined to call it a groove or perhaps a dihedral. Stemming is a handy technique to employ when things get tough.
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qwert
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sbaclimber wrote: At least the Amis didn't adopt 'stone', 'pence', 'schilling' and 'fag'! ....oh....um...forget that last one... A person who rides a Harley?
In reply to: f'd knows why they still use 'stone' While plastic does have its value, and the training you can get in a gym is really amazing, i personally still do prefer to climb on stone. But what does that have to do with units, or the recession? I would rahter climb on stone, if money is an issues, since you dont have to pay a fee for most crags, unlike gyms. qwert
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Ha I am in the Science field and was Bitching about this today. I have used inches all my life and still have to think about how to convert 15 1/8 to something useful.
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sbaclimber
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qwert wrote: sbaclimber wrote: f'd knows why they still use 'stone' But what does that have to do with units....? I assume you're trolling here.... edit for cheesetit
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tradrenn wrote: sbaclimber wrote: airscape wrote: enigma wrote: 1 Climbing closer 2. Preparing Food that is good in advance for camping 3. Sharing gas / and car when I can 4. Opting for places I really want to climb, and making sure the weather is good at least for a few days in row. You don't do these things when there isn't a reccesion?? That is the exact questionI asked myself as soon as I read that as well... I suppose the only one I have ever thought about is #1, because gas had gotten even more expensive. But, that didn't have anything to do with a recession, and I didn't solve it by not traveling as far, but rather traveling more often by train. Trains are mostly out of the question in North America. I do #2 almost all the time, but my reason is veganism. Wait, say what?
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chadnsc wrote: Ah, don't be too technical now . . . . you don't pay sales tax, get free health and child care, money for your wee one, free rent and food . . . . Dang I have to move to Canada! This is incorrect. In fact, its generally higher than U.S. sales tax.
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