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no_email_entered
Mar 15, 2011, 3:10 PM
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redonkulus
Mar 15, 2011, 3:18 PM
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Yes, Sport
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sungam
Mar 15, 2011, 3:20 PM
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sungam wrote: swoopee wrote: yes yes yes 5.8 Wat?
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camhead
Mar 15, 2011, 3:25 PM
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The original wording of the question was just weak. He could have avoided this whole "lead versus send" thing by saying "what is your hardest send?"
As it stands, someone can say that they "led but didn't send" a given climb, and it could mean that they one-hung it, or that it was an involved epic involving whips, takes, tension, tying off, and hauling up the stickclip. And if you "led" a 13a, but didn't send it, shouldn't you say it was 11+ A0?
Bottom line, the OP is talking about free climbing (both trad and sport), free climbing denotes an entire pitch done cleanly. So stick to what you've sent, not what you've aided.
grumble grumble grumble.
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cornstateclimber
Mar 15, 2011, 3:26 PM
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5.12, although didnt do it cleanly, infact was more ugly but dammit i made it!
so 11c
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boymeetsrock
Mar 15, 2011, 3:58 PM
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cracklover
Mar 15, 2011, 4:46 PM
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12c redpoint (12b os)
GO
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dont.trip
Mar 15, 2011, 4:52 PM
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adam14113
Mar 15, 2011, 4:53 PM
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12.C RP, couple of 12.a OSs but those probably don't count because they were at Jack's :p
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shockabuku
Mar 15, 2011, 5:23 PM
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dscow1980 wrote: Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport) Yes. Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years? Yes. Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym) I assume that means cleanly? Yes. Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead? 5.12a. |
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neverwalk
Mar 15, 2011, 5:40 PM
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5.12c/d Trad, Onsite. Sport as well, same grade. Go figure.
Placing gear or clipping bolts, no difference for me.
(This post was edited by neverwalk on Mar 15, 2011, 11:31 PM)
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olderic
Mar 15, 2011, 5:45 PM
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dscow1980 wrote: So for my stats class I taking a survey to determine the percentage of climbers readers of RC.com, who have been climbing for more than 2 years, that have lead (trad or sport) a 5.12 (indoors or outdoors). If you dont mind answering these 4 questions I would greatly appricate it. It should only take a minute. I need 100 replies to do my project. Thanks. Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport) Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years? Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym) Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead? Thanks again for your help, I think it will be interesting to see how many people have been lead climbing for more than two years that have ever lead a 5.12.
You do realize that there is an inverse proportionality between how good a climber someone is and the likely hood they would read rc.com?
But since I am more of a poser these days I'll play.
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12c - assuming you mean cleanly (just listing a grade that yo have dogged to the anchors on is totally bogus).
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edge
Mar 15, 2011, 5:53 PM
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Yes.
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5.12 trad. It was probably a 12b if I had to split hairs.
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shoo
Mar 15, 2011, 5:53 PM
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By my count, according to this survey, 61% of climbers have climbed 5.12 or above.
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BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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gblauer
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Mar 15, 2011, 6:12 PM
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Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport) Yes
Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years? Yes
Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym) Yes
Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead? 5.12
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sp115
Mar 15, 2011, 6:21 PM
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shoo wrote: By my count, according to this survey, 61% of climbers have climbed 5.12 or above. . . . . . . . . . BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure your numbers are correct, which makes me wonder why the lines are always long on the 5.6's at the Gunks but never on the 5.11's.*
* just sayin'
(This post was edited by sp115 on Mar 15, 2011, 6:22 PM)
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ianmeister89
Mar 15, 2011, 6:30 PM
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In reply to: Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport)
In reply to: Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years?
In reply to: Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym)
In reply to: Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead?
-Ian
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swoopee
Mar 15, 2011, 6:45 PM
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sungam wrote: swoopee wrote: yes yes yes 5.8 Wat?
What I meant was. I lead trad, outdoors, and .14d 
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potreroed
Mar 15, 2011, 6:46 PM
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csproul
Mar 15, 2011, 7:34 PM
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shoo wrote: By my count, according to this survey, 61% of climbers have climbed 5.12 or above. . . . . . . . . . BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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Arrogant_Bastard
Mar 15, 2011, 7:52 PM
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csproul wrote: shoo wrote: By my count, according to this survey, 61% of climbers have climbed 5.12 or above. . . . . . . . . . BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Kind of funny how many internet hardmen/women there are, huh? Why is it that every climbing area I go to has to the longest lines on climbs 5.10 and below?
Because 5.12 climbers don't drag 3 of their friends that have never climbed before up a route and clog up the route for an hour and a half?
Or perhaps because the areas that you're going to are predominately underhung and therefore centered around 5.10 climbing?
This of course doesn't address your implication that someone who has climbed a 5.12 is a "hardman".
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csproul
Mar 15, 2011, 8:43 PM
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: csproul wrote: shoo wrote: By my count, according to this survey, 61% of climbers have climbed 5.12 or above. . . . . . . . . . BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Kind of funny how many internet hardmen/women there are, huh? Why is it that every climbing area I go to has to the longest lines on climbs 5.10 and below? Because 5.12 climbers don't drag 3 of their friends that have never climbed before up a route and clog up the route for an hour and a half? Or perhaps because the areas that you're going to are predominately underhung and therefore centered around 5.10 climbing? This of course doesn't address your implication that someone who has climbed a 5.12 is a "hardman".
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chriisu
Mar 15, 2011, 8:45 PM
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