It's a fact on what UV rays do too webbing or any material for that matter haha! And I "replace" them on routes. But we're talking about a top-roping environment NOT a simple rappel anchor one might encounter on a route slung around a tree.

Thanks for the pic post too ;)

SECC, SCC, who really cares. They obviously have some technical issues and should just stick to gaining access and not bolt replacing. Like I said, we've only been here a few months. Don't really have time to go around hunting down access orgs.

I "replace" them for my own and clients safety and educate/tell others climbers to do the same when they encounter them and need to rappel off of them.

Speechless. You are guiding in an area but obviously have no respect for and are openly antagonistic towards the groups that make your profession possible.

Sorry, I'm not an internet junky and don't possess a folder of accident links but if you look at the high angle rescue post above and read the results that should be enough info for you ;) My knowledge of climbing accidents is from rangers, witnesses, guides, friends, my own experiences, etc.

I "replace" them for my own and clients safety and educate/tell others climbers to do the same when they encounter them and need to rappel off of them.

So you are leaving trash on the cliffs that no one else can use in the future to convenience your guiding activities. LNT my ass.

Oh this is just getting amusing now. I have plenty of certifications and have taken MANY classes from professionals and I also employee MANY professionals. My credibility speaks for itself.

can you scan and show us your certificates ?

how do we know you are no making this up ?

So, NE, since you're still here... How about those tope rope webbing failures?

All on my website. Links to organizations I'm involved with, etc. no need to scan

I agree. Cannot find any accidents myself. It is one thing to show that static cord is better, but another to show that webbing is unsafe. Any evidence that webbing is unsafe has not emerged from this "discussion."

I just want to know if there is any basis to this claim.

This is an amazing thread.

Do any you have jobs?

Bullshit. If that is so then a Rap anchors on trees across the country would be useless hours after they were put up.

AND you say you put webbing rap anchors on routes so in your opinion you are setting a trap for someone else?

We have A LOT of respect for the area and that is why we approached the park service to address this bolt issue. You should read sentences completely. We also are pushing for the NC state parks to require an insurance certificate from guiding outfits when they guide in the state parks. Something they don't do now.

We have A LOT of respect for the area and that is why we approached the park service to address this bolt issue. You should read sentences completely. We also are pushing for the NC state parks to require an insurance certificate from guiding outfits when they guide in the state parks. Something they don't do now.

So, you move to a new area where you are unfamiliar with the access issues and the local organizations advocating for climbers, and within a few months you are informing the NC State Parks Service that the CCC is incompetent and lobbying for a change in the way they regulate guides. Did you reach out to anyone in the CCC (or the SCC) about your concerns first? Did you ever think that undermining the CCC you might be damaging access for everyone?

I don't disagree with requiring guides to have insurance (carrying one is probably unnecessary as a simple registration process would keep guides up to date), but I have heard of this tactic before, and it's usually not presented as an option because the guide cares for the well-being of other guiding company clients or because it doesn't want the State to get sued. It's usually a tactic used to push out the competition.

Hey, plenty of worse tactics have been used in better industries, so good on you if that's a tactic you're using, but let's not sugarcoat it as if you're doing the world a favor here.

Apparently RC.com did something to our account, interesting. Anyway, are you serious ncrock climber? An organization rebolts with nail drive (the wrong bolts) in one of the weakest metamorphic rocks out there and they knew this while placing them but continued to place them throughout the park. I know this because after they hammered the pin in and realized it didn't set right they took a pointed tool and proceeded to hammer the pin in even FURTHER! I saw indents on every nail that they drove almost completely thru the sleeve. Making the anchor weaker than it originally was. These bolts are so close to the cliff edges that macro structure was obviously NOT a concern of theirs, one bolt if you clip a carabiner in it the spine rests on the cliff edge. Other bolts they replaced are SAE graded carbon steel bolts (3 slashes on the head) which have more rust on them than the titanic causing galvanic reaction to the clip. Why in the WORLD would I "reach out" to an organization that does this? Tell me that. They have no concern about climbing safety if this is how they "re-bolt" a local crag. I could go on about other bolts in this park if you'd like. If you're an organization representing the climbing community, as you say, wouldn't you hire professionals to change bolts? Or even call up a bolt manufacturer and ask them which bolt they recommend. The NC State Park service NEEDED to be aware of this and I hope they do something to change these bolts before someone gets seriously injured.

Apparently RC.com did something to our account, interesting.