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micahmcguire
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bosh! whiskey and a red-hot poker!!
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allan_thomson
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Micro pore tape
Dressing pads
Field dressing (bandage)
Plasters
Scissors
Antisceptic wipes
Rescusi face mask thing.
Loads of rubber gloves (you can never have enough)
Space Blanket
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coclimber26
Sep 30, 2003, 11:22 PM
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I usually climb with a pack. and put a small aid bag in it with curlex, tape, a sams splint and a cravat. If I go alpine I usually carry some tylenol, and some diamox, usually 4 x 250mg and some amodium.
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jeffers_mz
Oct 1, 2003, 7:22 PM
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well let's see....haven't unpacked it from my last trip...
duct tape, tictacs, bug spray, four 4x4's, 2 cravats, 1 pair spare contacts in new containers and 1 pair in the standard case, rubber banded together, 5 standard bandaids, 3 chemical handwarmer packs, oops make that five, space blanket, a small piece of a roll of medical tape (how did that get in there?) ziplock (quart), sunscreen,
5 feet of 3mm cord, elastic wrap bandage, iodine tabs, 2 milspec gauze rolls, a roll of Rolaids, a pill bottle with a rubber tourniquet (handiest piece of gear I carry that nobody's mentioned yet) around it, with a quarter roll of Rolaids inside, plus two cough drops, 10 Advils, 4 800mg Motrin, 2 Demerol, one Lorcet, a small rock, and finally, what had appeared at first to be approximately 15 mouse turds but actually turned out to be small pieces of broken plastic.
Because of the sunscreen, Rolaids, cough drops and Tictacs, the whole first aid kit goes in the bear bag at night. Regarding the discussion of the heavy duty painkillers, whoever said it's your job only to stabilize until pro help arrives had it dead on, but that period of time and the needs imposed therein are significantly altered when you solo a lot.
Edit: add one Bic lighter, thought it was the one I had out already, and subtract the rock.
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oldeclimber
Oct 2, 2003, 1:48 AM
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Hand warmers, Bic lighter....do you live in Siberia?
We climb naked year round down south.
From the original post......
Do you discuss things to do in the event of a medical emergency with other climbers in your group? Any special rules or procedures that you use or think are important?
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alpnclmbr1
Oct 2, 2003, 2:25 AM
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In reply to: From the original post...... Do you discuss things to do in the event of a medical emergency with other climbers in your group? Any special rules or procedures that you use or think are important?
We don't really discuss things but:
90% of my backcountry climbing partners over the years have had at least a WFR, and half of em have also taken a level 2 or 3 avy course.
Almost all of them have been climbing accident free for ten years or more.
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crazyfool
Oct 2, 2003, 2:42 AM
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I just throw the vital stuff in my pack...not for extended trips mind you, or I would make some effort to be more prepared.
tape
painkillers
crazy glue-the shiznit
extra water
energy bars or goo
a knife
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reno
Oct 2, 2003, 3:07 AM
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Speaking as a paramedic with nearly 10 years experience (urban areas, rural areas, flight paramedic, ER work, and other stuff...) I offer the following:
Nothing, but NOTHING beats a cool head and sound logical thought.
All the supplies in the world will do you very little good if you do not know 1) what the problem is, and 2) how to use the supplies.
Brutus has a good list of stuff. Not extensive, not exotic, but damn versatile... good work, sir.
WFR is a decent class. Basic First Aid is, too. Getting an EMT certification is cheap, not very time consuming, and very valuable.
Wilderness medicine in a nutshell:
1. Above all else, make sure the patient has an open airway, so they can breathe.
2. Stop any serious bleeding. This is best done by pressing on the bleeding part firmly.
3. Keep them warm. Blankets, extra clothes, a fire (if you have to, you have to... ecologists be damned.)
4. If it is broken, try to splint is so that it moves as little as possible. Tree branches, hiking poles, slings, ice axes, etc. can all be used for splinting.
5. Get the heck out of wherever you are and get the injured person to a hospital or doctor. Helicopters are great, but not always available... have at least three plans to evacuate if you need to. Be sure you know the local phone number for Search-Rescue, Emergency Medical Services, Park Rangers, Police, etc.
6. Do not get hurt in the process of doing #1-5. You won't do anyone any good if you get hurt, and you'll only complicate the problem.
Y'all be safe out there, please. I'm tired of seeing injured people.
(Edited for a typo...)
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jeffers_mz
Oct 2, 2003, 5:17 AM
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In reply to: Hand warmers, Bic lighter....do you live in Siberia? We climb naked year round down south.
My first aid kit and survival kit are one and the same, but the contents vary depending on where I'm going. Last trip the weather was a pleasant surprise. The last trip, same time of year, to the same place (front range) was two years ago and the surprise went the other way. Sixteen inches of snow.
The warmers are nice for keeping your fingers unfroze on cold rock. I'd guess they would work as heatpacks in a first aid situation, and a fire is always a nice option.
Naked all year, hmmm? Bet the copperheads love that....
:-)
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hops_scout
Oct 2, 2003, 12:05 PM
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For EMT certification, what are you calling cheap?
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roughster
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Everytime I see this post on the front page I think,
"Whats in your wallet, RRrrrrr!!!!"
:lol:
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static_climber
Oct 8, 2003, 4:15 PM
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in my med bag i carry bandaids and ace bandages some goss and a bottle of water and scissors
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alpnclmbr1
Oct 8, 2003, 5:18 PM
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In reply to: For EMT certification, what are you calling cheap?
That's a pretty good deal.
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hops_scout
Oct 8, 2003, 10:41 PM
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Thanks for the info.
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oldeclimber
Oct 9, 2003, 2:38 AM
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Jeffers mz wrote:
In reply to: Naked all year, hmmm? Bet the copperheads love that....
I could think of a few great responses to that one, but it's a family oriented site.....
so I won't.
That was funny. :lol:
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reno
Oct 9, 2003, 2:50 AM
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In reply to: For EMT certification, what are you calling cheap?
Eight years ago, I took my basic EMT course in Indiana. Cost me $300 or so.
Much cheaper than the alternative (i.e. not knowing what to do in an emergency situation.)
If you PM me and let me know where you live, I might be able to suggest a few places/local contacts for an EMT course (I know a LOT of people in EMS Education...)
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hishopper
Oct 9, 2003, 3:55 AM
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Looks like I'm the first to say (or admit ) that I carry O2.
I'm sure I'll get trashed for that a few posts from now, but I find it comforting as my only opportunities to climb are with family and close friends. It's a small one, fits right in my Lowe with the rope, and should last for about 20 minutes.
Other than that pretty much the same as everyone else above:
Irrigation (usually betadine), splinting kit, epi, tons of gauze, etc.
Oh yeah, another "overboard" item - a sterno adjustable c-collar (the kind that lays flat until you snap it together).
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