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kansasclimber
Aug 19, 2004, 3:03 AM
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I heard these kind of people exist, just wanting to see if they reply. I got One of my good friends that has disliked bouldering for a while to boulder and loved it. I cant see how people would dislike it but we shall see. IF you reply about the dislikes, why dont you like it. Its fun, good for quick burn, and personally i think it will get you stronger quicker (by doing the right kind of problems though).
Im not trying to promote pissiness, just wondering the reasons, thats all.
Stephen
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saskclimber
Aug 19, 2004, 3:09 AM
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you just opened pandora's chalkbag buddy...
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curt
Aug 19, 2004, 3:15 AM
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In reply to: Are there any boulder haters out there??????
I hate Boulder. Its too damn expensive, otherwise I'd move there. :wink:
Curt
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petsfed
Aug 19, 2004, 3:25 AM
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For a lot of people (sadly myself included) the low time commitment factor in bouldering is just not that alluring. That is, sometimes you want to climb in such a way that when you stop having fun, you just get up and leave. By the same token, these single serving sends can be unsatisfying. This is part of the reason I don't really enjoy single pitch climbing at the moment. Its over way too fast. Think about it. Sometimes you want a quickie, and sometimes you want to be barely able to move after the fact.
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ikefromla
Aug 19, 2004, 3:26 AM
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i'm with curt on this one. too many damn yuppies too :lol:
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kalcario
Aug 19, 2004, 3:46 AM
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Bouldering is like masturbation - nothing wrong with the odd yank every now and then but if that's all you ever do, you kinda start to lose sight of what it's all about. But if you can apply that bouldering power to actual climbs, and not get freaked out by the absence of the ground, foam pad, and spotter, then more power to you - that's how the best in the world do it. If you can pull v7-8, then you can, in theory, climb 5.14.
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enjoimx
Aug 19, 2004, 5:06 AM
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For me its the time factor. If i had unlimited time, i would boulder alot more. But with my busy schedule trying to fit climbing in between school and work, i want to maximize my climbing efficiency. This means i have to have the most fun in the short amount of time i have. I personally have more fun when im climbing a route. Maybe its just because the bouldering here sucks and the routes are pretty decent, that may be a factor. But for some reason, boulding just isnt as awesome as exploring a huge cliff face.
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kachoong
Aug 19, 2004, 5:19 AM
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In reply to: Its over way too fast. Think about it. Sometimes you want a quickie, and sometimes you want to be barely able to move after the fact.
But seriously, Boulder IS an expensive place.....
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reno
Aug 19, 2004, 6:42 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Are there any boulder haters out there?????? I hate Boulder. Its too damn expensive, otherwise I'd move there.
Ah-yup.
I'm with him.
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highminded
Aug 19, 2004, 7:39 AM
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I confess to not having a deep appreciation for the art and science of bouldering. My gripes:
1) no view
2) usually too crowded (I like the peace, quiet and solitude of climbing up a multi-pitch and getting away from it all)
3) too short -- can't get a groove on
4) feels like you don't go anywhere
5) I'm paranoid about breaking my ankle on a dismount
6) no gear -- I like playing with all my shiny, jingly toys
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usmc_2tothetop
Aug 19, 2004, 1:21 PM
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Ok...........I dont really have any goals in bouldering except to have fun. But I have goals in my climbing. Now that I have gotten on routes it's a whole new game. The rush is awesome. The view with the exposure is beautiful and doing multi-pitch trad routes really gives you a great feeling of team work and the fact that you can bring all your gear and take all your gear. It's like "leave no trace" climbing. I do enjoy some bouldering, you don't have to bring a ton of gear and you can really crank yourself. It's great for working on your power and keeping a good head at the crux on a route. But I must say I love working a route especially on multi-pitch. High-ball boulder problems are fun but I need to work on the mental aspect of that some more. I have nothing against bouldering. But for people who boulder my advice is to get on some routes and see what you think.
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soccer_fan
Aug 19, 2004, 1:30 PM
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I personally don't hate bouldering, so much as having a strong dislike for boulderer's who can say boulder V7~V8 but hang-dog 5.9 trade routes at my local crag...
just a thought
edit: and I mean trade routes, classics, etc. not implying trad(itional)
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lcerick
Aug 19, 2004, 1:45 PM
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I'm with highclimber on this one, too.
all 6 reasons are great ones, there are a couple more
that I can't mention here...
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sarcat
Aug 19, 2004, 2:01 PM
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It lacks the thrill of exposure. I'm addicted to it.
And #6 from above. I've invested to much $$ to have it sit at home.
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actionfigure
Aug 19, 2004, 2:14 PM
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pebble pinchers-matress smashers-pebble wrestling
just kidding, bouldering is cool.
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traddad
Aug 19, 2004, 2:18 PM
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Mostly I hate boulderers. Let me define this further. I hate the sk8 punk refugees in their asscrack pants and wool beanies continually spewing in co-opted surf speak and flicking their cigarette butts all over the place. I hate the sixteen year old trustafarians standing on the shoulders of giants to FA V8 without the least inkling in their bong addled brains that Bob Murray climbed it barefoot before they were in diapers. I hate the twinkies and beer work ethic that arises from five move routes.
It’s NOT that I hate bouldering…..It’s just the mentally lazy culture that seems to engulf it that I hate.
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tarzan420
Aug 19, 2004, 2:27 PM
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In reply to: I hate the twinkies and beer work ethic
I can understand hating the twinkies, but what's the problem with a beer work ethic?
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itakealot
Aug 19, 2004, 3:13 PM
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I think it is or was the other way around. I remember that first big year out at Bishop when literally every teen and young 20 y.o. male saw those pics in R&I and Climbing of sharma with a shaved head and grammicci pants with no shirt on sending something sick at the B.M.'s (pre-D.Graham), and they all show up with crew-cuts or shaved heads, grammicci pants, no shirts, and brand new crash pads. It was sorta like that Eninem slim shady video. But I never heard so many people spray sooo much sheeat about "rope" climbers, who never even climbed roped up with gear. When confronted about their idol they would justify by saying that Sharma is obligated to his sponsers and had to "rope climb." Which would be followed up by, "I hate those fLlcking rope climbers." What the fLlck?
The cool thing about being over 30 and climbing when these kids were pissing their pants while playing with their man dolls is that I really don't care.
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mingus
Aug 19, 2004, 3:16 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Are there any boulder haters out there?????? I hate Boulder. Its too damn expensive, otherwise I'd move there. :wink: Curt
But Curt - you're right in the perfect demographic for Boulder aincha?!
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dotc
Aug 19, 2004, 3:17 PM
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- I don't the "feel" of bouldering. It depends on the route of course, but as a generalization bouldering often involves lots of desperate slaps between bad or painful holds. I like the fluid, graceful motion of moderate climbing.
- No exposure, no view.
- The culture: I feel old around boulders; don't get the toques in summer and big pants; not into social climbing, "sessions" etc...
- Makes my fingers hurt (see bit about feeling old).
- I have no power.
- The mental game has always appealed to me more than the physical aspect of climbing. I didn't take up the sport to be gymnast. Give me a 1000' 5.4 alpine solo any day over a 20' 5.12.
These complaints aside, I do boulder indoors in the winter to train, it is still be best way to get strong. It nice to know that if I completely botch a sequence on a 5.9 trad route that I have a reserve of strength to get me through to the next jug.
I'll ask the question: Why is there a segment of the bouldering population that disdains rope climbing? Especially trad or ice?
DOTC
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traddad
Aug 19, 2004, 3:19 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Are there any boulder haters out there?????? I hate Boulder. Its too damn expensive, otherwise I'd move there. :wink: Curt But Curt - you're right in the perfect demographic for Boulder aincha?!
What? A Snottsdale Republican in Boulder?....Perish the thought. He's perfect where he is.
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send513
Aug 19, 2004, 4:14 PM
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I don't hate bouldering, but I am flat out a coward without a rope...
give me a 20 footer on lead over a 10 footer on a boulder any time!!
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scubasnyder
Aug 19, 2004, 4:19 PM
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No bouldering is goooood
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euroford
Aug 19, 2004, 4:21 PM
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if i happened to set up a base camp next to a boulder, i'd climb on it and have a bit of fun. would i actually go out of my way to persue a boulder for the purpose of climbing on it? no. would i climb an excellent boulder when in the presence of crumy trad climb? no. i also don't like the social culture of boulderers. i guess i'm just a trad guy.
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robmcc
Aug 19, 2004, 4:23 PM
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I don't hate boulders, but boulderERs are absolute scum of the earth. :P
Seriously, I don't "hate" much about climbing. I think chipping and gluing is pretty far up on the awful scale, but bouldering? I don't hate it, but it's not for me, either.
Rob
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