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killclimbz
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: INDOORS is much much better. Stay INDOORS. I agree stay indoors. Are you two trying to save all the nice outdoor routes for yourself? Lets not be greedy, now ... there is enough for all of us. Share, damn it! My answer ... outdoor climbing is more natural, creates a keen eye for route finding, keeps you hands cooler (plastic does not remove the heat as real rock does), it doesn't smell like a locker room and it is actually all-in-all more fun!
Not at all. I am just suggesting that outdoors is probably not for the originator of this thread...
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headchop
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In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know. -Jay
Hey, at least she wrote out "anyone" rather than "ne1". It's a start.
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headchop
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In reply to: Climbing is all about enjoying life and having fun.
No, climbing is about climbing. You certainly don't have to climb to enjoy life or have fun nor does climbing guarantee either of these.
Seriously, am I the only one getting sick of all this pseudo Zen-esque wannabe drivel?
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bad_lil_kitty
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Jay - I'll humor you after reading several or your posts... But, this particular response:
In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know. -Jay
What the F.U.C.K?! Who are you - the freakn' Post-gestapo?!
Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence.
You're being a dick! Obviously, you seem to like to point out the errs in others you tool - that is slang for dipshit...as in, take a dip in your shit.
In reply to: To err is human; to forgive, divine.
Edited for the likes of grammEr anal orifice...
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gnat
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In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might..... [attempt at humor deleted to prevent more ranting by all the jt5.2 haters] -Jay
is pulling on plastic really even climbing?
In reply to: you cold almost compare it with sex with and without a condom.
more like masterbation vs. sex with a partner.
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markc
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When I started climbing, it was already fairly late in the season. I only climbed outdoors a handful of times before I turned to the gym for the winter. For three or four months, I would have told you I liked indoor and outdoor equally. Once the season began, the scales quickly tipped. In the passing years, my visits to the gym have become less and less frequent. I enjoy it for what it's worth while I'm there, but it's not what comes to mind when someone says "climbing."
Even so, here are some reasons the gym is good (IIRC):
1. You don't have to worry about a headlamp after the sun goes down.
2. You're not subject to the elements.
3. For me, the drive is 10 - 15 minutes (opposed to an hour to decent rock).
4. If toproping, there is no set-up and break-down time. You can accomplish quite a bit of climbing in a couple hours at the gym.
5. Ever-changing routes. Local crags can get old after a few seasons.
6. For beginners, less equipment is required.
7. If you're training, it may be easier to find particular sequences in a higher concentration indoors.
8. They have harnesses for younger kids, which is nice when I take my nephews.
I probably haven't been in a gym 10 times in the last couple years, but that doesn't mean they don't hold value for some.
mark (trolled)
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bumblie
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In reply to: Jay - I'll humor you after reading several or your posts... What the F.U.C.K?! Who are you - the freakn' Post-gestapo?! Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments:... You're being a dick! Obviously, you seem to like to point out the errs in others you tool - that is slang for s---...as in, take a dip in your s---..
That's quite sense of humor you've got there.
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dingus
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In reply to: You're being a dick!
Whether Jay is interviewing for penis jobs is an interesting side question, but sidesteps a post-nazi issue. The quoted poster was purposely illiterate. Jay offered some sharp commentary bout that, purposely as well.
If you take Jay to task for writing a purposely dickheaded post, I think you ought to take the purposely illiterate poster to task as well. It is equally annoying, perhaps more so.
Did I do OK with my sentences? I tend to write like I talk so I often ignore these little school marm rules. Yet I appreciate a well written sentence as much as anyone!
Cheers!
DMT
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winter
Sep 28, 2004, 3:54 PM
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I didn't read the thread, but I don't understand the question...
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are you really asking this question? :shock:
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robmcc
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In reply to: indoor climbing is a great training. but outdoor is so much more pleasurable. you cold almost compare it with sex with and without a condom.
Close. Outdoor climbing is like great sex with someone you love deeply. Indoor climbing is like sex with someone else's old blow up doll. They might both get you to the same destination, but that's where the similarity ends.
Rob
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bad_lil_kitty
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LOL - thank you all for translating Jay's post for me...
Dingus - you did a fine job w/ your sentences! I am just waiting to be dinged for my stream of conscience writing ;)
Awww - and I do have a bad sense of humor, to which I can only appreciate .... come on, the 'grammEr' was funny... ok to me....
Much Love happiness and sentencing structures!!!!
Kitty
In reply to: Did I do OK with my sentences? I tend to write like I talk so I often ignore these little school marm rules. Yet I appreciate a well written sentence as much as anyone! Cheers! DMT |
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edge
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In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree??
Climbinggurl,
I have just split off a bunch of posts that attacked your spelling and inability to pose a well thought out question. On the chance that you were looking for an honest response, I have left the ones that I think most honestly answered the question.
Based on your previous posts, I would suggest that if you want to stimulate real and meaningful discussion, that you take a few minutes to come up with a legitimate question. Then search the forums to see if it has already been asked; most likely it has. After that, if you still want to proceed, please use spellcheck. We are not trying to be grammar police, but history shows that you will get more and better responses if we all can read and interpret the original question.
Of course, if you are a troll as some have suggested, then that will soon be apparent and we have ways of dealing with that as well.
Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Loran
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edge
Sep 28, 2004, 5:24 PM
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This thread makes soooo much more sense now that it has been freed from the original.
Note to bad_lil_kitty. No more circumventing the naughty word filter please. It can lead to tuberculosis, genital itching, and eventual tarpits. :wink:
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bad_lil_kitty
Sep 28, 2004, 5:34 PM
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:) Okay, fair enough :)
Eeks - the side effects - yep, kitties misfortune would be that of TB, genital itching and tarpits!
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dingus
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In reply to: I have just split off a bunch of posts that attacked your spelling and inability to pose a well thought out question.
Looks like you deleted the original purposely misspelled and poorly posed question too. I say either put the original illiterate post back or abort the entire thread. You don't need to be sanitizing people's posts for them.
DMT
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In reply to: I have just split off a bunch of posts that attacked your spelling and inability to pose a well thought out question. On the chance that you were looking for an honest response, I have left the ones that I think most honestly answered the question.
[plain english translation]: no more topic drift or even slightly off topic discussions allowed. and we will decide what is on or off topic.
the "discourse police"* strike again.
In reply to: Of course, if you are a troll as some have suggested, then that will soon be apparent and we have ways of dealing with that as well. Cheers, Loran
[plain pseudo english translation]: "ve have vays of making you talk."
"cheers"? -----that somehow makes your (not so veiled) threat all better?
* copyright 2004 gnat technologies, inc.
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coylec
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In reply to: Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence.
Well, looks like someone else wants to be a grammar police officer. Usually, I'd refrain from this, but you're wrong.
Let's do some work:
Subject? Check (I). Predicate? Check (might).
In reply to: Try posting your question in English.
In reply to: Then I'll let you know.
If you're going to be a grammar-police officer, you have to get it right. And you didn't.
Judgment entered for JT512.
coylec
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headchop
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In reply to: ]2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree??
Okay, let's see if I can manage to post something relevant.
Firstly, no, I don't agree.
It seems that your statement may be based on too literal an interpretation of some of the spray found in these forums; specifically, that anyone who learns to climb in the gym will flail badly when they first venture outside and will drop x grades in difficulty.
This is probably true, initially. Once you get used to the feel of climbing on real rock, however, this should no longer be such a problem.
Like many others, I'd suggest that everyone should get outside and onto real rock at the earliest opportunity, even if you can only handle lower grades. Aside from the obvious benefits of being out in the sun and surrounded by nature, you will benefit technically from exposure to the different techniques required, compared to indoor climbing.
If finding someone more experienced to mentor you on roped stuff is a problem, try bouldering. Better than hanging out in a gym.
That said, I do know people who prefer to climb indoors. YMMV.
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Hhahahaha - I love you all!
Guess what I do for a living ;)
LOL
From
Eats Shoots & Leaves:
A panda walks into a cafe. The panda orders a sandwhich, eats it and then fires a gun into the air. On his way out, he tosses a badly puntuated wildlife manual at the confused bartender and directs him to the entry marked "Panda."
Whereupon the bartender reads: "Panda. Large black-and-white bearlike mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."
http://www.gothamist.com/...ndas_and_grammar.php
In reply to: In reply to: Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence. Well, looks like someone else wants to be a grammar police officer. Usually, I'd refrain from this, but you're wrong. Let's do some work: Subject? Check (I). Predicate? Check (might). In reply to: Try posting your question in English. I think this may be the problem. There's no problem with a predicate, obviously. However, you seem to think there isn't a subject. However, there's a sentence-type called a "command" where the subject is understood. In this sentence, it is clear the the subject is "you," referring the original poster. In reply to: Then I'll let you know. Again, subject and predicate. Lovely. If you're going to be a grammar-police officer, you have to get it right. And you didn't. Judgment entered for JT512. coylec |
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In reply to: In reply to: ]2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? Okay, let's see if I can manage to post something relevant.
nooooooooo! don't do it luke. don't give in to the dark side.
In reply to: Censors are like whackamoles. No sooner do you dispatch one, another one pops his head up and starts whacking posts.
but just like the "whackamoles," we can sure give them a headache.
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In reply to: In reply to: I have just split off a bunch of posts that attacked your spelling and inability to pose a well thought out question. Looks like you deleted the original purposely misspelled and poorly posed question too. I say either put the original illiterate post back or abort the entire thread. You don't need to be sanitizing people's posts for them. DMT
Dingus, I had left the original post, and even checked it after I split the thread. If, however, the original poster elects to come back and remove it, or there was some other bug in the system, then I have nothing to do with that. It was there after the split.
In reply to: no more topic drift or even slightly off topic discussions allowed. and we will decide what is on or off topic.
Topic drift is fine, but I split off two pages of BS that had nothing to do with the original question, and included all sorts of character assasinations, "F" bombs, and lots of other goodies that didn't belong in General. That stuff is tolerated in Community, just not here.
No need to make this more than it is.
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