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climbinggurl
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2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree??
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Not to slam you, but are you serious??? In no way do I agree with you! I see indoor climbing as good training and a good place to go during rainy winter months. Anytime I can climb outside, that is much preferred. You don't have to climb hard to climb outside. For me, climbing outside is the ultimate experience, even if you can only get on 5.7. You're outside under the sun, with the wind and the trees, your hands actually on rock, looking at birds from above... For me, that's what it's all about. Where do you climb, that you think you shouldn't go outside until you're climbing 5.11? Everyone's different, but ... I'm still not sure you're for real...
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OUTDOOR, why climb inside outside is 100 times better....plastic sux except when time of need like the winter.
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Funny thing; just this afternoon my husband and I were saying, after climbing for a few hours outside, "Climbing outdoors is at least 10 times more fun than climbing indoors."
I think we were wrong. The number should have been more like 100 times. We climb indoors when the weather is bad, just to get some fun exercise. We climb outdoors because it's so wonderful to enjoy the views, the feel and look and smell of the rock, the bird's-eye-views of trees and cliffs and rock formations and -- yes -- birds flying below you, and so much more!
It doesn't matter if you're on a 5.4 or a 5.11 -- it's still a thrill to be out there on the rock!
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In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree??
I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know.
-Jay
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In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know. -Jay
Come on Jay, give 'em credit. It's English with defective grammar and spelling. It certainly isn't french nor spanish.
Pour commencer, parole d'I'd d'intérieur. Alors quand vous pouvez monter au moins des 5.11, puis vous devrait commencer à s'élever dehors. Est-ce que n'importe qui convient ?
Para comenzar, opinión de I'd de interior. Entonces cuando usted puede subir por lo menos 5.11, después le debe comenzar a subir al aire libre. ¿Cualquier persona conviene?
... Seriously, this is a weak troll. T0.
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In reply to: which is better indoor or outdoor climbing??
would you ask the same question about skiing?
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In reply to: In reply to: which is better indoor or outdoor climbing?? would you ask the same question about skiing?
Well put.
But seriously...it doesn't make sense to me to talk about indoor climbing being even remotely better than outdoor climbing. Indoor climbing is an imitation knock-off of outdoor climbing. Climbing began outdoors. Nobody started fooling around inside a cathedral on the stone walls, back in the day, and then said, oh hey, that cliff looks like it might be fun too...
And I see no reason why you should aspire to a certain level of indoor climbing before heading outside. Get outside as soon as you can! Don't limit yourself just because you don't think you're ready to be on real rock...
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In reply to: In reply to: which is better indoor or outdoor climbing?? would you ask the same question about skiing?
But would you ask that question about bowling?
-Jsy
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I like climbing outdoors with a roof over my head.......a big long roof :D
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Just shoot me :roll:
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dief
Sep 28, 2004, 5:18 AM
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Which is better? Indoor or outdoor?
The answer would be YES!
Climbing is all about enjoying life and having fun. Depening on circumstances that could inside or outside.
To quote Ricky Rock Rat - "Shut up and Climb!"
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Well, I either feel sorry for you because you haven't climbed outside (or else you would not be asking this question)
OR
I feel sorry for me because I wasted my time answering a troll...
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kachoong
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: which is better indoor or outdoor climbing?? would you ask the same question about skiing? But would you ask that question about bowling?
You never have to ask that question about physical pleasure staisfaction! outdoors or indoors? As long as you enjoy it, that's all that matters..... just quote Rocky Root Rat!
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The only way that indoor climbing could be made even remotely comparable to climbing outside would be:
1. The wall you're at is at least 100ft high
2. It has routes set by the coolest route setters in the world
3. The ceiling is made of new space age breathable plexiglass so that you can look at the sky
Now let's get to what could make it worth while
4. Your belay slave is a beautiful naked member of the opposite sex that offers you endless encouragement (if need/wanted), endless beta (if needed/wanted), and any sexual favors you desire post climb.
5. Onsite there is a bar that serves up every brew imaginable and all kinds of great apres climbing foods.
6. This gym is open 24/7.
7. The user fee (this includes all beer and food anytime you climb, and also a wide selection of promotional gear to tryout and use) is a $1 a year.
8. The place never has lines for climbs
Wait a minutes as I'm thinking about all this...I still think I'd rather go outside. But it would be a heck of a place to train.
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Sep 28, 2004, 8:23 AM
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indoor climbing is a great training.
but outdoor is so much more pleasurable.
you cold almost compare it with sex with and without a condom.
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climbhigh2005
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climbhigh2005 moved this thread from Competition Climbing to General.
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sabu
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indoor is fun when u hav no possible means of getting outdoors but by all means when the oppertunity arises to climb outdoors it should be taken without hesitation. it's a hell of a lot more fun
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lcerick
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NO
Climbing is outdoors,
indoors is for training.
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OUTDOOR - and there is no room for discussion.
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INDOORS is much much better.
Stay INDOORS.
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In reply to: INDOORS is much much better. Stay INDOORS. |
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I'm undecided. While I'm pondering this truly fantastic question, would some of you be kind enough to tell me which shoe is the best???
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this has got to be a troll. I can't believe it's generated two pages of responses.
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In reply to: In reply to: INDOORS is much much better. Stay INDOORS. I agree stay indoors.
Are you two trying to save all the nice outdoor routes for yourself? Lets not be greedy, now ... there is enough for all of us. Share, damn it!
My answer ... outdoor climbing is more natural, creates a keen eye for route finding, keeps you hands cooler (plastic does not remove the heat as real rock does), it doesn't smell like a locker room and it is actually all-in-all more fun!
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killclimbz
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: INDOORS is much much better. Stay INDOORS. I agree stay indoors. Are you two trying to save all the nice outdoor routes for yourself? Lets not be greedy, now ... there is enough for all of us. Share, damn it! My answer ... outdoor climbing is more natural, creates a keen eye for route finding, keeps you hands cooler (plastic does not remove the heat as real rock does), it doesn't smell like a locker room and it is actually all-in-all more fun!
Not at all. I am just suggesting that outdoors is probably not for the originator of this thread...
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In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know. -Jay
Hey, at least she wrote out "anyone" rather than "ne1". It's a start.
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headchop
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In reply to: Climbing is all about enjoying life and having fun.
No, climbing is about climbing. You certainly don't have to climb to enjoy life or have fun nor does climbing guarantee either of these.
Seriously, am I the only one getting sick of all this pseudo Zen-esque wannabe drivel?
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Jay - I'll humor you after reading several or your posts... But, this particular response:
In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know. -Jay
What the F.U.C.K?! Who are you - the freakn' Post-gestapo?!
Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence.
You're being a dick! Obviously, you seem to like to point out the errs in others you tool - that is slang for dipshit...as in, take a dip in your shit.
In reply to: To err is human; to forgive, divine.
Edited for the likes of grammEr anal orifice...
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In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might..... [attempt at humor deleted to prevent more ranting by all the jt5.2 haters] -Jay
is pulling on plastic really even climbing?
In reply to: you cold almost compare it with sex with and without a condom.
more like masterbation vs. sex with a partner.
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When I started climbing, it was already fairly late in the season. I only climbed outdoors a handful of times before I turned to the gym for the winter. For three or four months, I would have told you I liked indoor and outdoor equally. Once the season began, the scales quickly tipped. In the passing years, my visits to the gym have become less and less frequent. I enjoy it for what it's worth while I'm there, but it's not what comes to mind when someone says "climbing."
Even so, here are some reasons the gym is good (IIRC):
1. You don't have to worry about a headlamp after the sun goes down.
2. You're not subject to the elements.
3. For me, the drive is 10 - 15 minutes (opposed to an hour to decent rock).
4. If toproping, there is no set-up and break-down time. You can accomplish quite a bit of climbing in a couple hours at the gym.
5. Ever-changing routes. Local crags can get old after a few seasons.
6. For beginners, less equipment is required.
7. If you're training, it may be easier to find particular sequences in a higher concentration indoors.
8. They have harnesses for younger kids, which is nice when I take my nephews.
I probably haven't been in a gym 10 times in the last couple years, but that doesn't mean they don't hold value for some.
mark (trolled)
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In reply to: Jay - I'll humor you after reading several or your posts... What the F.U.C.K?! Who are you - the freakn' Post-gestapo?! Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments:... You're being a dick! Obviously, you seem to like to point out the errs in others you tool - that is slang for s---...as in, take a dip in your s---..
That's quite sense of humor you've got there.
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In reply to: You're being a dick!
Whether Jay is interviewing for penis jobs is an interesting side question, but sidesteps a post-nazi issue. The quoted poster was purposely illiterate. Jay offered some sharp commentary bout that, purposely as well.
If you take Jay to task for writing a purposely dickheaded post, I think you ought to take the purposely illiterate poster to task as well. It is equally annoying, perhaps more so.
Did I do OK with my sentences? I tend to write like I talk so I often ignore these little school marm rules. Yet I appreciate a well written sentence as much as anyone!
Cheers!
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I didn't read the thread, but I don't understand the question...
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are you really asking this question? :shock:
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In reply to: indoor climbing is a great training. but outdoor is so much more pleasurable. you cold almost compare it with sex with and without a condom.
Close. Outdoor climbing is like great sex with someone you love deeply. Indoor climbing is like sex with someone else's old blow up doll. They might both get you to the same destination, but that's where the similarity ends.
Rob
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LOL - thank you all for translating Jay's post for me...
Dingus - you did a fine job w/ your sentences! I am just waiting to be dinged for my stream of conscience writing ;)
Awww - and I do have a bad sense of humor, to which I can only appreciate .... come on, the 'grammEr' was funny... ok to me....
Much Love happiness and sentencing structures!!!!
Kitty
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In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree??
Climbinggurl,
I have just split off a bunch of posts that attacked your spelling and inability to pose a well thought out question. On the chance that you were looking for an honest response, I have left the ones that I think most honestly answered the question.
Based on your previous posts, I would suggest that if you want to stimulate real and meaningful discussion, that you take a few minutes to come up with a legitimate question. Then search the forums to see if it has already been asked; most likely it has. After that, if you still want to proceed, please use spellcheck. We are not trying to be grammar police, but history shows that you will get more and better responses if we all can read and interpret the original question.
Of course, if you are a troll as some have suggested, then that will soon be apparent and we have ways of dealing with that as well.
Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Loran
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This thread makes soooo much more sense now that it has been freed from the original.
Note to bad_lil_kitty. No more circumventing the naughty word filter please. It can lead to tuberculosis, genital itching, and eventual tarpits. :wink:
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:) Okay, fair enough :)
Eeks - the side effects - yep, kitties misfortune would be that of TB, genital itching and tarpits!
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In reply to: I have just split off a bunch of posts that attacked your spelling and inability to pose a well thought out question.
Looks like you deleted the original purposely misspelled and poorly posed question too. I say either put the original illiterate post back or abort the entire thread. You don't need to be sanitizing people's posts for them.
DMT
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In reply to: I have just split off a bunch of posts that attacked your spelling and inability to pose a well thought out question. On the chance that you were looking for an honest response, I have left the ones that I think most honestly answered the question.
[plain english translation]: no more topic drift or even slightly off topic discussions allowed. and we will decide what is on or off topic.
the "discourse police"* strike again.
In reply to: Of course, if you are a troll as some have suggested, then that will soon be apparent and we have ways of dealing with that as well. Cheers, Loran
[plain pseudo english translation]: "ve have vays of making you talk."
"cheers"? -----that somehow makes your (not so veiled) threat all better?
* copyright 2004 gnat technologies, inc.
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In reply to: Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence.
Well, looks like someone else wants to be a grammar police officer. Usually, I'd refrain from this, but you're wrong.
Let's do some work:
Subject? Check (I). Predicate? Check (might).
In reply to: Try posting your question in English.
In reply to: Then I'll let you know.
If you're going to be a grammar-police officer, you have to get it right. And you didn't.
Judgment entered for JT512.
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In reply to: ]2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree??
Okay, let's see if I can manage to post something relevant.
Firstly, no, I don't agree.
It seems that your statement may be based on too literal an interpretation of some of the spray found in these forums; specifically, that anyone who learns to climb in the gym will flail badly when they first venture outside and will drop x grades in difficulty.
This is probably true, initially. Once you get used to the feel of climbing on real rock, however, this should no longer be such a problem.
Like many others, I'd suggest that everyone should get outside and onto real rock at the earliest opportunity, even if you can only handle lower grades. Aside from the obvious benefits of being out in the sun and surrounded by nature, you will benefit technically from exposure to the different techniques required, compared to indoor climbing.
If finding someone more experienced to mentor you on roped stuff is a problem, try bouldering. Better than hanging out in a gym.
That said, I do know people who prefer to climb indoors. YMMV.
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Hhahahaha - I love you all!
Guess what I do for a living ;)
LOL
From
Eats Shoots & Leaves:
A panda walks into a cafe. The panda orders a sandwhich, eats it and then fires a gun into the air. On his way out, he tosses a badly puntuated wildlife manual at the confused bartender and directs him to the entry marked "Panda."
Whereupon the bartender reads: "Panda. Large black-and-white bearlike mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."
http://www.gothamist.com/...ndas_and_grammar.php
In reply to: In reply to: Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence. Well, looks like someone else wants to be a grammar police officer. Usually, I'd refrain from this, but you're wrong. Let's do some work: Subject? Check (I). Predicate? Check (might). In reply to: Try posting your question in English. I think this may be the problem. There's no problem with a predicate, obviously. However, you seem to think there isn't a subject. However, there's a sentence-type called a "command" where the subject is understood. In this sentence, it is clear the the subject is "you," referring the original poster. In reply to: Then I'll let you know. Again, subject and predicate. Lovely. If you're going to be a grammar-police officer, you have to get it right. And you didn't. Judgment entered for JT512. coylec |
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In reply to: In reply to: ]2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? Okay, let's see if I can manage to post something relevant.
nooooooooo! don't do it luke. don't give in to the dark side.
In reply to: Censors are like whackamoles. No sooner do you dispatch one, another one pops his head up and starts whacking posts.
but just like the "whackamoles," we can sure give them a headache.
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In reply to: In reply to: I have just split off a bunch of posts that attacked your spelling and inability to pose a well thought out question. Looks like you deleted the original purposely misspelled and poorly posed question too. I say either put the original illiterate post back or abort the entire thread. You don't need to be sanitizing people's posts for them. DMT
Dingus, I had left the original post, and even checked it after I split the thread. If, however, the original poster elects to come back and remove it, or there was some other bug in the system, then I have nothing to do with that. It was there after the split.
In reply to: no more topic drift or even slightly off topic discussions allowed. and we will decide what is on or off topic.
Topic drift is fine, but I split off two pages of BS that had nothing to do with the original question, and included all sorts of character assasinations, "F" bombs, and lots of other goodies that didn't belong in General. That stuff is tolerated in Community, just not here.
No need to make this more than it is.
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In reply to: Dingus, I had left the original post, and even checked it after I split the thread. If, however, the original poster elects to come back and remove it, or there was some other bug in the system, then I have nothing to do with that. It was there after the split.
Cool. Got it. It was not there when I viewed page one prior to my post. It's there now however, in all its troll glory.
Seems like a lot of work for nothing, pruning a troll thread, but I appreciate your getting back to me.
Cheers
DMT
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If I was 100% sure it was a troll, then the whole thing would have been off to Community without me doing all of the unneccesary work of splitting it. However, since some people took the time to give honest answers, I did not want to slight their efforts, hence the split. Plus, I had never used the split tool before, and it was like that # 5 camalot that you carry on your rack and need to place once in a while to justify carrying it.
In reply to: "cheers"? -----that somehow makes your (not so veiled) threat all better?
I think you will find that I use that all all of my correspondence and many posts, as does Dingus and others. Don't you have a grassy knoll to check for shell casings?
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In reply to: In reply to: no more topic drift or even slightly off topic discussions allowed. and we will decide what is on or off topic. Topic drift is fine, but I split off two pages of BS that had nothing to do with the original question..............
looks like you used a machette instead of a scapel. here is my original post [with] which i am adding back over here because it belongs here:
In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might..... [attempt at humor deleted to prevent more ranting by all the jt5.2 haters] -Jay
is pulling on plastic really even climbing? "
[seems like an on topic comment to me]
In reply to: you cold almost compare it with sex with and without a condom.
more like masterbation vs. sex with a partner.
[the prosecution rests.]
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In reply to: Plus, I had never used the split tool before, and it was like that # 5 camalot that you carry on your rack and need to place once in a while to justify carrying it. |
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In reply to: Don't you have a grassy knoll to check for shell casings?
its more fun hovering this pile of dung.
high ho, high ho, its off to "community" we go... [fade to whistling].
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In reply to: You're being a dick! Obviously, you seem to like to point out the errs in others you tool - that is slang for s---...as in, take a dip in your s---.
Perhaps you might consider removing the comma after the word "obviously" and placing it after the word, "others".
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maniacsurfer420
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ur crazy indoors = puss outdoors = real man
exept when bad weather. climbing is not safe besides what ppl tell you
indoors is not climbing its recreation. outdoors is a adrenaline rush from hell especially when soloing which i recomend to everyone. but im an adrenaline junky thats out of his gord so maybee im not the sainest person to listen too.
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do you even have to ask?
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In reply to: I am just waiting to be dinged for my stream of conscience writing
Nice.
I talk stream of conscience with my therapist all the time.
Quiz: Would the above phrase "all the time" be best replaced by "continually" or "continuously," and why?
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In reply to: Even so, here are some reasons the gym is good (IIRC): 1. You don't have to worry about a headlamp after the sun goes down. 2. You're not subject to the elements. 3. For me, the drive is 10 - 15 minutes (opposed to an hour to decent rock). 4. If toproping, there is no set-up and break-down time. You can accomplish quite a bit of climbing in a couple hours at the gym. 5. Ever-changing routes. Local crags can get old after a few seasons. 6. For beginners, less equipment is required. 7. If you're training, it may be easier to find particular sequences in a higher concentration indoors. 8. They have harnesses for younger kids, which is nice when I take my nephews.
Missed one:
9. You're closer to the pub for an after climb pint (or two).
Otherwise, I'd rather climb outside.
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Hmm... indoor or outdoor(ie. Real climbing!)
I think the point here is that there is NO glory in plastic, or concrete for that matter.
Stepping out from the beley into serious exposure, or being runout on a series of bat hook move, or swinging your tools into some sick ice... There is glory to be found in these!
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In reply to: I talk stream of conscience with my therapist all the time.
My therapist wants me. I can tell by how much interest she shows in me.
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In reply to: Jay - I'll humor you after reading several or your posts... But, this particular response: In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know. -Jay What the F.U.C.K?! Who are you - the freakn' Post-gestapo?! Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence. You're being a dick! Obviously, you seem to like to point out the errs in others you tool - that is slang for s---...as in, take a dip in your s---.
First of all, I wasn't pointing out the errs [sic] in his post; I was trying to suggest to him that, since this is not a chat room, he should try to post using something approximating standard written English.
Secondly, I was trying to interject a little humor into it, as everybody but you seemed to notice.
Third, you're even wrong about my grammar. All three sentences in my first post are complete sentences. Perhaps you misinterpreted the word "then."
There are some congratulations in order here. It is rare that we get a post in which everything is wrong. Do you know Beetsy511, by any chance?
-Jay
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:shock: :shock: :shock:
This thread is scary. Hold me.
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In reply to: From Eats Shoots & Leaves
OK, I can overlook the failure to italicize the title of the book, but for God's sake, if you're going to quote from that book, at least put the comma in after "Eats."
And, I posted that panda joke months ago.
And that's not a sentence fragment, either.
-Jay
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The panda joke is all wrong. In Oz we have a joke pretty much the same and it is about a wombat.
The puncline is that a Wombat eats, roots, shoots and leaves. Note to all who may be unfamiliar with Australian slang, roots = fornication. So if you come across an Aussie (the two ss`s promnounced as z`s (did I get the apostrophes correct)) who describes himself as a wombat you`ll know what he is talking about. Of course just to confuse matters it has been known that if you wish to slag off at some one in a derogatory manner then just call em a silly wombat or just say, ahhh ya wombat. The latter has no bearing on the former mentioned wombat.
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Dude Thanks!
Kahoong ya wombat!
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In reply to: Dude Thanks! Kahoong ya wombat!
It's kachoong ya Sasquatch!
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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In reply to: In reply to: Jay - I'll humor you after reading several or your posts... But, this particular response: In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know. -Jay What the F.U.C.K?! Who are you - the freakn' Post-gestapo?! Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence. You're being a dick! Obviously, you seem to like to point out the errs in others you tool - that is slang for s---...as in, take a dip in your s---. First of all, I wasn't pointing out the errs [sic] in his post; I was trying to suggest to him that, since this is not a chat room, he should try to post using something approximating standard written English. Secondly, I was trying to interject a little humor into it, as everybody but you seemed to notice. Third, you're even wrong about my grammar. All three sentences in my first post are complete sentences. Perhaps you misinterpreted the word "then." There are some congratulations in order here. It is rare that we get a post in which everything is wrong. Do you know Beetsy511, by any chance? -Jay
seemed like i had to quote someone just to post in this thread.
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Jay - I'll humor you after reading several or your posts... But, this particular response: In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know. -Jay What the F.U.C.K?! Who are you - the freakn' Post-gestapo?! Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence. You're being a dick! Obviously, you seem to like to point out the errs in others you tool - that is slang for s---...as in, take a dip in your s---. First of all, I wasn't pointing out the errs [sic] in his post; I was trying to suggest to him that, since this is not a chat room, he should try to post using something approximating standard written English. Secondly, I was trying to interject a little humor into it, as everybody but you seemed to notice. Third, you're even wrong about my grammar. All three sentences in my first post are complete sentences. Perhaps you misinterpreted the word "then." There are some congratulations in order here. It is rare that we get a post in which everything is wrong. Do you know Beetsy511, by any chance? -Jay seemed like i had to quote someone just to post in this thread.
That was so last year. :lol:
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Jay - I'll humor you after reading several or your posts... But, this particular response: In reply to: In reply to: 2 start off i'de say indoor than when u can climb a 5.11 @ least than u should start outdoor climbing! does anyone agree?? I might. Try posting your question in English. Then I'll let you know. -Jay What the F.U.C.K?! Who are you - the freakn' Post-gestapo?! Perhaps, you should stop answering in sentence fragments: Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence. You're being a dick! Obviously, you seem to like to point out the errs in others you tool - that is slang for s---...as in, take a dip in your s---. First of all, I wasn't pointing out the errs [sic] in his post; I was trying to suggest to him that, since this is not a chat room, he should try to post using something approximating standard written English. Secondly, I was trying to interject a little humor into it, as everybody but you seemed to notice. Third, you're even wrong about my grammar. All three sentences in my first post are complete sentences. Perhaps you misinterpreted the word "then." There are some congratulations in order here. It is rare that we get a post in which everything is wrong. Do you know Beetsy511, by any chance? -Jay seemed like i had to quote someone just to post in this thread. That was so last year. :lol:
I wonder if Ryan would consider resurecting that thread where we made pyramids?
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I love you all - I care!
I am having the bestest day!!!
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In reply to: I love you all - I care! I am having the bestest day!!!
Drunk...
with love again.
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:) Tim
...nah, just trying to make a crappy day better w/ that whole positive self-talk... it didn't really work, so i went to bed...
i love you all - willing to try it again
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In reply to: :) Tim ...nah, just trying to make a crappy day better w/ that whole positive self-talk... it didn't really work, so i went to bed...
Next time, apply booze.
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In reply to: I'm undecided. While I'm pondering this truly fantastic question, would some of you be kind enough to tell me which shoe is the best???
For indoor or outdoor? But if you go with Madrock shoes, beware their sizing is different than 5.10 shoes.
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Climbing has always been an outdoor sport....so someone got the bright idea to take it indoors for training (hence the title climbing GYM) good for them, the true spirit of climbing is out on the rock. Also,being able to climb 5.11 in a gym won't do you any good outside because outdoor climbing is so different than indoor climbing. You're setting yourself up for a bad climbing experience if you think you're at 5.11 capabilties on the real thing just because you can do it in a gym.
So in short go outside find out what you can climb and train to go beyond that by using the gym.
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:wtf: you are joking right? Due to lack of partners/car i have been stuck in the gym for waaaaaaaaay to long, outside is infinately better.
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I climbed for a full year in an indoor gym with a membership before ever setting foot outside. Because of that, it took me months to get an eye for the rock. I was unsure, wary, and above all else unfit for going outside despite my "5.12 topropping." I would peel off 5.7 cracks and couldn't set an anchor if my life depended on it.
Climb outdoors till 5.11. Than, go indoors when it rains. It is not about how good you can climb, but what an experience you get from it.
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As long as your having fun, both are good, right?...
fine, outdoors!!!!
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Whichever you like better...you don't need to try to justify either one....you can do either one or both...or neither if you don't like it at all.
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what, is this some kind of joke?
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thegreytradster
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Indoors of course!
The holds are held on with 12,000 psi grade 8 bolts, the floors padded, the anchors bomb proof, and there's always someone you can sue if you do get hurt.
For God's sake stay inside!
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NEITHER!
REal climbing is only in my garage, my hangboard solos are absolutely fulfilling, especially with the light off you can't see the holds....sometimes it gets really challenging...
You can also simulate outoor environment opening the door at night when outside is so cold...
Hangboard climbing...the future.
Stay in your garage. Don';t go out. It's full of bugs, mud and it's cold/.
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i've been climbing for 9 years and i just have climbed indoor once Aways outdoor , u can breathe , smell the forest , take the sun , see animals , what else??
plastic suckssssssssssssss , could be good in the week for training
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indoor climbing as good training and a good place to go during bad weather and winter months.
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I think outside is better, but if it's raining or to cold outside, inside is the place to be.
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I refuse to accept your reality, and substitute my own.
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I ride the short bus.
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Which is better for snowboarding/skiing, man-made snow or Utah powder?
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ta ta ta trooooooollllllllllllll.
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