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coyoteblues
Jun 11, 2003, 7:10 AM
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In reply to: It has been said – “what happens on the wall, stays on the wall” when it comes to the discovery of personal quarks that may come out under pressure on the wall. Ya know, I've seen that somewhere before. It sounded "right" at first, but now I don't agree. Hard and fast rules like that might be very handy for protecting all sorts of craziness. It's the kind of rule a sick family has about their abusive dad: "What happens in this house, stays in this house." I also don't agree that PM's are "sacred" so don't send me anything you must keep private. Personally I reserve the right to be grown up enough to decide for myself what gets made public or not. If you don't know a person well enough to know they can be trusted with what you tell them, then you'd better not tell them.
In reply to: I would also like to suggest that like the old saying goes – “until you have walked a mile in their shoes” , or in this case, until we have toiled up close with another individual on the wall, maybe we should not be making judgments about the character of those individuals. I can't judge anything that happened to Chad or Pete or Josh or anyone else in the Valley over the past month. I wasn't there and I dont' have enough info to do so. But I don't feel a bit uneasy about passing judgement on the very public display of "information" on this site. Something along the lines of narcissistic personality disorder comes to mind. (The management has got to love the boost to site stats this kind of thread generates; just coming out of a mini retirement to do my part.)
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punk
Jun 11, 2003, 4:25 PM
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Well interesting… climbers are the biggest gossip…it is incredible to how much sh!t u can dish on each other…to all I would say “you do what you do and I do what I do” who the hell cares…take what you need from others experiences…but don’t turn this for excrement test :shock:
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dsafanda
Jun 11, 2003, 4:50 PM
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You know, the title of this post has always been "...here's the current gossip!" Isn't it sort of silly to make the choice to click on this thread and then complain that it's just a bunch of gossip? Look, there is a "scene" in Yosemite but you can still go there and climb the best rock in the world with out dealing with any of it. Different people like to experience Yosemite in different ways. So what?
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punk
Jun 11, 2003, 5:21 PM
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gossip is OK...but sh!t throwing is another I think it turn to the later :(
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flamer
Jun 11, 2003, 6:36 PM
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Have to agree with what dsafanda said. I have severasl friends that couldn't make it out top the valley this year and love the scene...this thread was for them and people like them. I know we all love the chance to bash Pete....so anytime his name is mentioned it's a flash point for slapping his pee-pee. climbsomething, are you really the bitter chick? You sure sound like her....and I kind'a figured you were a PTPP fan. Do you read R&I and Climbing? Cause guess what....hot flash's and all that crap is the same gossipy stuff.... All this internet crap is just that...crap...It's simply something to laugh at when I'm not out climbing, biking, dropping names :wink: If you can't take it for what it's worth then WHY ARE YOU HERE??? josh
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xanx
Jun 15, 2003, 3:38 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Any detractors out there willing to admit they've bailed from a wall? PTPP and I haven't yet. I am a distractor and I've had to bail a couple of times.... weather. bad punters. too freaked. If you haven't bailed from a wall, it means you haven't done very many, nor have you been pushing your limits. Just because you aren't smart enough to know when to come down.....hope I don't have to come rescue you when dogma keeps you up there when you shouldn't be. The Better Way?.....to be a rectal pore. I don't even own a couch, and I'm in my 40's. just wondering... if PTPP hasn't been pushing his limits (on Jolly Roger and Reticent), then to where do you propose he go to "push his limits"? maybe solo an A5? that's pretty much all that is left...
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flamer
Jun 15, 2003, 3:22 PM
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xanax, In your profile you state that you've been climbing a little over a year, and you mostly just boulder in the gym. What do you know about big wall limits? I know It sounds like limits are being pushed...but do you know the details of the actual ascents? Do you know anything about style...especially as it relates to climbing walls?? just curious.... josh
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wonderbread
Jun 16, 2003, 4:26 AM
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Flamer, In your profile it appears that you have done two of the easiest big walls in Yose, and you mostly climb moderate trad routes. What the F do you know about big wall limits? I know you want to talk shit like you're a big boy, but what secret details of Pete's ascents are the rest of us missing? What do you know about style? Especially as it pertains to climbing hard walls, (ie not LF and WFLT)? Just curious... As far as I can tell you've just hit the mouthy adolescent years of climbing when you think you are finally getting good and have the need to cut down everyone else to make yourself feel better. Climbing age 13. Have fun with your middle school gossip. "And OMG don't sit next to Jimmy at lunch, he's not one of the cool kids anymore."
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apollodorus
Jun 16, 2003, 4:40 AM
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Does anybody know what happened to the #6 Friend that came off the top of the Ear a day or so after PTPP dropped his hook? It looked like it landed in the clearing at the base of the Dihedral. Did anybody find it? On a pound-for-pound basis, a big cam like that should logically stir up more dropped gear rants than a hook ever could. But, I haven't heard anything about it. But, I guess the focus isn't on what was dropped, but on who dropped it.
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karlbaba
Jun 16, 2003, 10:29 AM
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If you made the cam, you are allow to drop the cam. The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away peace karl
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simzboardr
Jun 16, 2003, 10:54 AM
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How bout we all just stop yapping about pointless bumblebee tuna and go climb. Ever since the weather got better up here ive been hittin the cliffs not bitchin on this website. Seriously guys, this thread is just showing how immature a lot of you really are. Its cool talking about what people are climbing, but i didn't know that negativity and climbing go together. Instead of bitching at each other why can't you just simply applaud some sweet stuff that people climb and shut up about it.
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flamer
Jun 16, 2003, 7:14 PM
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Wonderbread, In your profile you don't have anything! You sound like a PU**Y who just wants to pick a fight! And I'll tell you what....I've climbed 7 big walls in Yosemite and Zion. Having been even close to a big wall would give me more business talking about style then someone who admit's all they do is boulder in the gym. Of course you could just be another guy sucking Pete's left nut...like so many others... Now of course you might have seen more in my profile if alot of it hadn't been erased recently... Of course any punter can climb WFLT onsite in 9 hrs....course it would have been more like 6 if I hadn't been for 2 of the coolest swedish guys I've ever met... And it could be that some of us out here don't want to climb walls in bad style...so we wait until everything falls in place to do it "right". As far as being 13 and worrying about the "cool" people....I don't care...this is the internet, land of talking trash and having an alter ego....course if I met you and you were the d**K you seem to be...you might just walk away with a bloody nose... Of course I never really said I know anything about it now did I? I Have my opinion's as does everyone else...If you don't like them....TOUGH SH*T!! josh
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Jun 16, 2003, 11:25 PM
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So Flamer why don`t you tell us what you really think, let it all out, it will do you good. :lol: :lol: :lol: ...Phil...
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flamer
Jun 16, 2003, 11:49 PM
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Phil, Thanks for making me laugh at myself...I needed it! Hey Simzboarder, Being a new guy to climbing big walls, when You PM'd Me asking for info on WFLT did I talk any kind of smack to you?? Did I answer every question you had? Did I do anything but encourage you to climb the wall, and have fun doing it?? Did I ever call you a "Big wall Theorist"? And by the way....I hope you have a hell of a good time on the route!! It's a classic! josh
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gawd
Jun 16, 2003, 11:55 PM
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xanx on all the harder climbs pete has participated on he had better partners then he. though from what i know he cause more issues with his piss poor ideas on what is the better way. and adollppuhs(or whatever) cause the cam didnt hit anyone. that is why it was not a big deal. pete is a loser and i am sure he would even tell you so himself, if his has was not so far up his ass and adplohourous wasnt bust giving him the canadian bacon reach around!
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wonderbread
Jun 17, 2003, 4:42 AM
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Big ups on the childish rant Flamer. You are giving me a good laugh. You probably do know more about style than someone who just boulders in the gym, so why don't you answer his question instead of saying he's a gumby who doesn't deserve an answer from such an awesome climber as yourself? You were a total prick to xanx, he asked a simple fucking question, so answer it instead of cutting him down. You are a tool, threatening me over the internet, that's proud...You are acting 13, grow up, moron. And that is so dope giving out beta to another aspiring wall climber and then braggin about it. I answered his PM's too, but then again I don't need to bring that up to justify cutting down another. Wonder "faster than you" Bread
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flamer
Jun 17, 2003, 5:50 PM
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Wonder"dumber than you" bread, Threaten you over the internet? Seems to me that I said If you were the D*ck you appear to be, and for your sake I truly hope you're not. He did not ask a simple question he used sarcasm to state that someone else was wrong. And I'm not bragging. Simply pointing out that, no matter what you think or say, I don't treat people (who are asking for info. or honest beta) like you are trying to imply that I do. The only person that really jumped in on this and cut someone down, in the first place, was you. So guess what? F**K YOU!!! I don't care what you think and I don't care who you are! Hugs and kisses, josh P.S. WOW! Did you see the Hubers time on the Zodiac?? That's so fast!! Getting back to the original reason behind this thread...what else is going down in the valley???
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scottcody
Jun 17, 2003, 7:00 PM
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In reply to: Getting back to the original reason behind this thread...what else is going down in the valley??? I don't know... but man was THAT a way to spend my lunch hour. The reading was absolutely riveting. :roll: Thanks to this thread, I now see the attraction to doing remote big walls. :shock:
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ricardol
Jun 17, 2003, 7:36 PM
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here is a hint for alot of people on this thread.. use the killfile .. .. one of the best features on this board .. -- ricardo
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flamer
Jun 18, 2003, 1:18 AM
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I think it all boils down to effort.....It takes alot of time and effort just to get to Baffin. Or even somewhere closer, like tehpite(sp?) dome in Seqouia. Most of us might think about it but don't want to go through the months of planning and the expense to go too these places. Which makes me respect the people that do that much more! josh
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wonderbread
Jun 18, 2003, 1:53 AM
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Whatever, Flamer. It's all there to read. Maybe you'll get through this adolescent stage soon. Hopefully your pimples aren't too bad and your voice stops cracking soon. Alpine walls are great, no one for miles and a super rewarding summit, but then again there would be no deli to hang out at and no one to gossip with. Which apparently is really important to some.
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flamer
Jun 18, 2003, 3:22 AM
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Wonderbread, You are so much better then me!! I think I love you!! So seriously, what is the most remote wall you've done? josh
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micahmcguire
Jun 18, 2003, 3:49 AM
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right on dude, I just got back home from yosemite as well, saw the bro's on the zodiac, along with a bunch of other parties all over el cap. mid may, what a time to be in yosemite! PS-wonderbread and flamer, you guys rock. end of round one, start of round two, terribly sorry to interrupt -- DING!
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