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edge
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sp115 wrote: olderic wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: olderic wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: olderic wrote: sp115 wrote: enigma wrote: ..However a 5.1 is easier than walking up a flight of stairs in the United States for most 3 year olds... I don't think "flight of stairs" means what you think it does. In any even let me put it terms you’ll understand: I like to lead, for the same reason my cat likes to chase a string. My favorite cats are Siamese. They’re from Egypt, not all, but originally. I once had a cat that ate ice cream. I would feed it to her on a fork. “Oh well”, I used to think, “if only you had an opposable thumb”. Has anyone seen a cat climb? They don’t use ropes. They like to chase string. I like to lead for the same reason. I saw a cat climb a tree once. But it was because my dog was chasing her. My dog chase lots of things. Some with four legs some with two. I wonder how many legs she has chased in all? You know in some races they have different segments they call legs. Another type of race is one in boats where they use oars. Called crew. There are two types - sweeps - where you just pull on one oar with both hands and sculling where you have an oar in each hand. In England there are lots of crew races on the Thames such as Henley. And The Boat Race. That's between Oxford and Cambridge. My daughter spent time at both Oxford and Cambridge. She met her husband at Oxford. He was the president of the OUMC (Oxford University Mountaineering Club). They do a lot of climbing. In England. Both boys and girls. My dog is a girl. She chased me up a cliff once. It was 5.3 slab. She almost got it. But couldn't quite. Probably because she is a girl. I am a boy - so I led it for her. It's only natural. Shall we go around again? wheeee I went to England once. Took a photo of my wife in a stone circle as a fertility blessing. Turns out she was already pregnant by 1 month. Our first child. A boy. Or second child is a girl. Both climb. We went on two trips where I promised the boy he could do his first outdoor lead. We didn't get to climb on either trip. So the lad no lead. My wife still has upper back issues from carrying the kids when they were babies. That and she has sore rotator cuffs from punching so much. We got rid of our cats and I hate the dog next door. That leaves me to get the rope up. More fun going up the front, than round the back. Sometimes the back door is a nice variation. I tried to get in the backdoor of Stonehenge once. That's a stone circle in England. Very well known. Perhaps you have heard of it. Built by the Druids. They are not Christians. In Scandinavia they also had non Christian groups in the old days. Vikings and what not. They had horns. Both the boys and girls. All very horny I guess. Oslo in in Norway. There is a famous painting by Munch in a museum there. "The Scream". Reminds me of girls trying to lead. I saw a tv show about vikings, the archeologists have found evidence that the warrior men lived together in a separate house. They had shirts, and decorated them. I don't think they bouldered, but since they had iron, they might have done ice. Vanilla Ice would have made a good viking and boulder. Snorli Sturlesson is my favorite, he led. He was bold. I think I am related to Eric the Red. He had a beard too. But his was red. Mine is grey. Maybe mine turned grey because I got scared leading. But i have to because I am a boy. Did Eric the Red climb? I bet if he did you would look like him. I heard Vikings were mean. I don't think you're mean, but I don't understand beards. If cats could grow lots of wiskers they would look like a beard. Are there red cats? Hey! I just thought of a good name for a red cat!
I think the Vikings were related to the Druids, but they liked to sail in boats on the water. For many years they referred to themselves as the Fluids. They changed their names to the Vikings to honor the football team from Minnesota. Their defensive line used to be called the Purple People Eaters, but that is a misnomer because there are no purple people outside of raves, and to eat them you would have to be a cannibal. Hannibal Lechter ate people, but he was not a Viking, he was a British actor. Besides, he didn't drink mead, but the Vikings did. Margaret Mead was not a Viking either, but she worked in New Guinea where there are cannibals. She was a leader in her field, and presumably a woman. Knock, Knock. Who's there? Mead. Mead who? I mead another drink. This was a very popular joke on Viking ships.
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Apr 5, 2011, 3:16 PM
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edge wrote: sp115 wrote: olderic wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: olderic wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: olderic wrote: sp115 wrote: enigma wrote: ..However a 5.1 is easier than walking up a flight of stairs in the United States for most 3 year olds... I don't think "flight of stairs" means what you think it does. In any even let me put it terms you’ll understand: I like to lead, for the same reason my cat likes to chase a string. My favorite cats are Siamese. They’re from Egypt, not all, but originally. I once had a cat that ate ice cream. I would feed it to her on a fork. “Oh well”, I used to think, “if only you had an opposable thumb”. Has anyone seen a cat climb? They don’t use ropes. They like to chase string. I like to lead for the same reason. I saw a cat climb a tree once. But it was because my dog was chasing her. My dog chase lots of things. Some with four legs some with two. I wonder how many legs she has chased in all? You know in some races they have different segments they call legs. Another type of race is one in boats where they use oars. Called crew. There are two types - sweeps - where you just pull on one oar with both hands and sculling where you have an oar in each hand. In England there are lots of crew races on the Thames such as Henley. And The Boat Race. That's between Oxford and Cambridge. My daughter spent time at both Oxford and Cambridge. She met her husband at Oxford. He was the president of the OUMC (Oxford University Mountaineering Club). They do a lot of climbing. In England. Both boys and girls. My dog is a girl. She chased me up a cliff once. It was 5.3 slab. She almost got it. But couldn't quite. Probably because she is a girl. I am a boy - so I led it for her. It's only natural. Shall we go around again? wheeee I went to England once. Took a photo of my wife in a stone circle as a fertility blessing. Turns out she was already pregnant by 1 month. Our first child. A boy. Or second child is a girl. Both climb. We went on two trips where I promised the boy he could do his first outdoor lead. We didn't get to climb on either trip. So the lad no lead. My wife still has upper back issues from carrying the kids when they were babies. That and she has sore rotator cuffs from punching so much. We got rid of our cats and I hate the dog next door. That leaves me to get the rope up. More fun going up the front, than round the back. Sometimes the back door is a nice variation. I tried to get in the backdoor of Stonehenge once. That's a stone circle in England. Very well known. Perhaps you have heard of it. Built by the Druids. They are not Christians. In Scandinavia they also had non Christian groups in the old days. Vikings and what not. They had horns. Both the boys and girls. All very horny I guess. Oslo in in Norway. There is a famous painting by Munch in a museum there. "The Scream". Reminds me of girls trying to lead. I saw a tv show about vikings, the archeologists have found evidence that the warrior men lived together in a separate house. They had shirts, and decorated them. I don't think they bouldered, but since they had iron, they might have done ice. Vanilla Ice would have made a good viking and boulder. Snorli Sturlesson is my favorite, he led. He was bold. I think I am related to Eric the Red. He had a beard too. But his was red. Mine is grey. Maybe mine turned grey because I got scared leading. But i have to because I am a boy. Did Eric the Red climb? I bet if he did you would look like him. I heard Vikings were mean. I don't think you're mean, but I don't understand beards. If cats could grow lots of wiskers they would look like a beard. Are there red cats? Hey! I just thought of a good name for a red cat! I think the Vikings were related to the Druids, but they liked to sail in boats on the water. For many years they referred to themselves as the Fluids. They changed their names to the Vikings to honor the football team from Minnesota. Their defensive line used to be called the Purple People Eaters, but that is a misnomer because there are no purple people outside of raves, and to eat them you would have to be a cannibal. Hannibal Lechter ate people, but he was not a Viking, he was a British actor. Besides, he didn't drink mead, but the Vikings did. Margaret Mead was not a Viking either, but she worked in New Guinea where there are cannibals. She was a leader in her field, and presumably a woman. Knock, Knock. Who's there? Mead. Mead who? I mead another drink. This was a very popular joke on Viking ships.
I read on Wikipedia that there is no evidence that Vikings ever wore horns on their helmets. I guess it was made up by someone at some point and everyone else liked the idea. If you are ever bored, the Wikipedia list of common misconceptions is a great read. Lots of facts you can bring up at your next social gathering. "Actually.... "
http://en.wikipedia.org/...ommon_misconceptions
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redonkulus
Apr 5, 2011, 3:26 PM
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special_blend wrote: enigma wrote: While there alot of good reasons to lead. If you are a guy ; I presume your male ego forces you to lead? What's your opinion on this subject? This makes me rage. Ego has nothing to do with it. Some men are compelled to lead, it simply seems like the natural choice. For them it seems like a natural decision to make to simply be a leader in some things or all things. It may not be because of his "ego" but rather simply because that's his drive, he has to lead to satisfy that burning need. It's got nothing to do with any type of self-centered behaviour where the man thinks he is somehow weaker or less of a man if he isn't leading or even following a woman. It could also be that when a guy is leading all the time it's because the people around him see him as a natural choice to leader, either because he has more experience, knowledge, is stronger, or perhaps because his personality makes him a natural fit to lead teams. Once again, nothing to do with any ego bullshit. I really fucking hate that bullshit feminist angle that Men constantly need to satisfy their "male ego"
Pretty sure she means lead as in lead climbing, I.E. not being on top rope, rather than as in being a leader or charismatic figure that others follow.
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Apr 5, 2011, 3:33 PM
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chadnsc wrote: Trollin' trollin' trollin' Keep those yahoos goin' Trollin' trollin' trollin'
You're like the guy in the April Fools joke that has to point out that he knows that it's a joke so that everyone knows he wasn't duped.
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Apr 5, 2011, 3:34 PM
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edge wrote: I think the Vikings were related to the Druids, but they liked to sail in boats on the water. For many years they referred to themselves as the Fluids. They changed their names to the Vikings to honor the football team from Minnesota. Their defensive line used to be called the Purple People Eaters, but that is a misnomer because there are no purple people outside of raves, and to eat them you would have to be a cannibal. Hannibal Lechter ate people, but he was not a Viking, he was a British actor. Besides, he didn't drink mead, but the Vikings did. Margaret Mead was not a Viking either, but she worked in New Guinea where there are cannibals. She was a leader in her field, and presumably a woman. Knock, Knock. Who's there? Mead. Mead who? I mead another drink. This was a very popular joke on Viking ships.
I iz a viKing and dis is all 100% true.
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chadnsc
Apr 5, 2011, 3:39 PM
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: chadnsc wrote: Trollin' trollin' trollin' Keep those yahoos goin' Trollin' trollin' trollin' You're like the guy in the April Fools joke that has to point out that he knows that it's a joke so that everyone knows he wasn't duped.
Meh, I had nothing nice to say and figured I'd keep the troll a rollin'. Looks like it worked.
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: chadnsc wrote: Trollin' trollin' trollin' Keep those yahoos goin' Trollin' trollin' trollin' You're like the guy in the April Fools joke that has to point out that he knows that it's a joke so that everyone knows he wasn't duped.
i laffed
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macherry wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: chadnsc wrote: Trollin' trollin' trollin' Keep those yahoos goin' Trollin' trollin' trollin' You're like the guy in the April Fools joke that has to point out that he knows that it's a joke so that everyone knows he wasn't duped. i laffed
I'm glad A_B and I could add little humor to your day. 
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enigma wrote: While there alot of good reasons to lead. I've noticed that quite a bit of ladies don't even bother. The reason is simple. Generally the men I climb with lead harder and they want to climb harder So I'm happy just to follow. So if my partner can lead to 5.11 trad. They are going to want to try to climb as close to that. Personally I don't want to get hurt . So its not important to me. If you are a guy ; I presume your male ego forces you to lead?
However given the chance would you rather follow?
Can guys admit this?
I also have heard guys don't like other males to climb harder then them. Is that true?
What's your opinion on this subject?
My female partner leads just as well as I do. As a matter of fact, she'll lead (first) more often than I do on sport pitches. We have different optimum styles, but we both do pretty well.
Of the two of us, she is the more likely to be bent out of shape when she is out-performed.
We've both also noticed a lot of women that simply top rope, however, they're certainly welcome to enjoy climbing in their own way.
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edge wrote: sp115 wrote: olderic wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: olderic wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: olderic wrote: sp115 wrote: enigma wrote: ..However a 5.1 is easier than walking up a flight of stairs in the United States for most 3 year olds... I don't think "flight of stairs" means what you think it does. In any even let me put it terms you’ll understand: I like to lead, for the same reason my cat likes to chase a string. My favorite cats are Siamese. They’re from Egypt, not all, but originally. I once had a cat that ate ice cream. I would feed it to her on a fork. “Oh well”, I used to think, “if only you had an opposable thumb”. Has anyone seen a cat climb? They don’t use ropes. They like to chase string. I like to lead for the same reason. I saw a cat climb a tree once. But it was because my dog was chasing her. My dog chase lots of things. Some with four legs some with two. I wonder how many legs she has chased in all? You know in some races they have different segments they call legs. Another type of race is one in boats where they use oars. Called crew. There are two types - sweeps - where you just pull on one oar with both hands and sculling where you have an oar in each hand. In England there are lots of crew races on the Thames such as Henley. And The Boat Race. That's between Oxford and Cambridge. My daughter spent time at both Oxford and Cambridge. She met her husband at Oxford. He was the president of the OUMC (Oxford University Mountaineering Club). They do a lot of climbing. In England. Both boys and girls. My dog is a girl. She chased me up a cliff once. It was 5.3 slab. She almost got it. But couldn't quite. Probably because she is a girl. I am a boy - so I led it for her. It's only natural. Shall we go around again? wheeee I went to England once. Took a photo of my wife in a stone circle as a fertility blessing. Turns out she was already pregnant by 1 month. Our first child. A boy. Or second child is a girl. Both climb. We went on two trips where I promised the boy he could do his first outdoor lead. We didn't get to climb on either trip. So the lad no lead. My wife still has upper back issues from carrying the kids when they were babies. That and she has sore rotator cuffs from punching so much. We got rid of our cats and I hate the dog next door. That leaves me to get the rope up. More fun going up the front, than round the back. Sometimes the back door is a nice variation. I tried to get in the backdoor of Stonehenge once. That's a stone circle in England. Very well known. Perhaps you have heard of it. Built by the Druids. They are not Christians. In Scandinavia they also had non Christian groups in the old days. Vikings and what not. They had horns. Both the boys and girls. All very horny I guess. Oslo in in Norway. There is a famous painting by Munch in a museum there. "The Scream". Reminds me of girls trying to lead. I saw a tv show about vikings, the archeologists have found evidence that the warrior men lived together in a separate house. They had shirts, and decorated them. I don't think they bouldered, but since they had iron, they might have done ice. Vanilla Ice would have made a good viking and boulder. Snorli Sturlesson is my favorite, he led. He was bold. I think I am related to Eric the Red. He had a beard too. But his was red. Mine is grey. Maybe mine turned grey because I got scared leading. But i have to because I am a boy. Did Eric the Red climb? I bet if he did you would look like him. I heard Vikings were mean. I don't think you're mean, but I don't understand beards. If cats could grow lots of wiskers they would look like a beard. Are there red cats? Hey! I just thought of a good name for a red cat! I think the Vikings were related to the Druids, but they liked to sail in boats on the water. For many years they referred to themselves as the Fluids. They changed their names to the Vikings to honor the football team from Minnesota. Their defensive line used to be called the Purple People Eaters, but that is a misnomer because there are no purple people outside of raves, and to eat them you would have to be a cannibal. Hannibal Lechter ate people, but he was not a Viking, he was a British actor. Besides, he didn't drink mead, but the Vikings did. Margaret Mead was not a Viking either, but she worked in New Guinea where there are cannibals. She was a leader in her field, and presumably a woman. Knock, Knock. Who's there? Mead. Mead who? I mead another drink. This was a very popular joke on Viking ships.
I've heard it takes a long time to make mead. Like it needs to ferment for a year! Is that true?
I've never made mead. I do make beer and hard cider though. And I like hard cider and hard climbs. But sometimes I like easy climbs. I like it when arhad clibs feel easy.
But I don't like it when the cider in the fridge starts to turn hard all on its own. It gets a funny rotten flavor. Do you think it's bad for you? I don't think it's the same as regular hard cider.
Actually, I used to visit my girlfriend when she lived in Switzerland, and it's a popular drink to drnik that stuff - the cider that's just starting to turn hard. [/] I din'td like it there either.[/]
In reply to: Do you think it's bad fro the Swiss people too? Or maybe they make it a different way?
GO
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enigma wrote: While there alot of good reasons to lead. I've noticed that quite a bit of ladies don't even bother. The reason is simple. Generally the men I climb with lead harder and they want to climb harder So I'm happy just to follow. So if my partner can lead to 5.11 trad. They are going to want to try to climb as close to that. Personally I don't want to get hurt . So its not important to me. If you are a guy ; I presume your male ego forces you to lead?
However given the chance would you rather follow?
Can guys admit this?
I also have heard guys don't like other males to climb harder then them. Is that true?
What's your opinion on this subject?
I like to lead. It's heavy when it's a block, like that car in swisserland that guy picked up. have you ever drunk mate? you should. it'll make you piss more, which is better for your partner. I went to ROmeb[/] once. good thing there are no cars there. 
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enigma wrote: While there alot of good reasons to lead. I've noticed that quite a bit of ladies don't even bother. The reason is simple. Generally the men I climb with lead harder and they want to climb harder So I'm happy just to follow.
I am not happy just to follow. However, I am a Viking. Or maybe I am confusing that with Vulcan. Anyway, Nanu-Nanu.
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mushroom
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Enigma,
My profile says I lead and follow 5.1 because I don't care about my profile. I rarely find the motivation to entertain the rc.com forums these days.
With regards to everything below 5.6 being a free solo, I must tell you that just because your climbing area does not have 5.1-5.5 doesn't mean that the grade is dead everywhere else. I'd like to see your colors as you free solo Gunsight to South Peak (5.3) at Seneca.
Since you have free soloed enough to come up with a principle (anything under 5.6), let's hear some of your best free solos.
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special_blend wrote: enigma wrote: While there alot of good reasons to lead. If you are a guy ; I presume your male ego forces you to lead? What's your opinion on this subject? This makes me rage. Ego has nothing to do with it. Some men are compelled to lead . . .
So are some women, and it doesn't matter whether they are climbing with men or women, or if their partners are better climbers than them. Enigma seems to have concocted an elaborate excuse for not leading in order to satisfy her ego.
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enigma wrote: If you are a guy;
I am.
the man-hater wrote: I presume your male ego forces you to lead?
You presume wrong. I presume you're an idiot.
the wacko feminist wrote: However given the chance would you rather follow?
Rather? Maybe not. Be willing to? Sure.
the douche wrote: Can guys admit this?
Apparently...
the group-thinker wrote: I also have heard guys don't like other males to climb harder then them. Is that true?
Wow. I heard all black people hate whiteys and rob gas stations. Is this true?
the bigot wrote: What's your opinion on this subject?
Check the quote author titles. My opinion should be pretty clear.
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edge
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mushroom wrote: Enigma, My profile says I lead and follow 5.1 because I don't care about my profile. I rarely find the motivation to entertain the rc.com forums these days. With regards to everything below 5.6 being a free solo, I must tell you that just because your climbing area does not have 5.1-5.5 doesn't mean that the grade is dead everywhere else. I'd like to see your colors as you free solo Gunsight to South Peak (5.3) at Seneca. Since you have free soloed enough to come up with a principle (anything under 5.6), let's hear some of your best free solos.
She has already shared that information.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2441037#2441037
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enigma wrote: While there alot of good reasons to lead.
enigma wrote: I've noticed that quite a bit of ladies don't even bother.
enigma wrote: The reason is simple. Generally the men I climb with lead harder and they want to climb harder
enigma wrote: So I'm happy just to follow.
enigma wrote: So if my partner can lead to 5.11 trad.
enigma wrote: They are going to want to try to climb as close to that.
enigma wrote: Personally I don't want to get hurt . So its not important to me.
enigma wrote: If you are a guy
Yep, sure am
enigma wrote: I presume your male ego forces you to lead?
Not at all, but I love climbing. Trad, sport, ice; the idea is to climb and have fun, some times yer the first to get the rope up top.
enigma wrote: However given the chance would you rather follow?
enigma wrote: Can guys admit this?
enigma wrote: I also have heard guys don't like other males to climb harder then them. Is that true?
enigma wrote: What's your opinion on this subject?
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Kartessa wrote: olderic wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: olderic wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: olderic wrote: sp115 wrote: enigma wrote: ..However a 5.1 is easier than walking up a flight of stairs in the United States for most 3 year olds... I don't think "flight of stairs" means what you think it does. In any even let me put it terms you’ll understand: I like to lead, for the same reason my cat likes to chase a string. My favorite cats are Siamese. They’re from Egypt, not all, but originally. I once had a cat that ate ice cream. I would feed it to her on a fork. “Oh well”, I used to think, “if only you had an opposable thumb”. Has anyone seen a cat climb? They don’t use ropes. They like to chase string. I like to lead for the same reason. I saw a cat climb a tree once. But it was because my dog was chasing her. My dog chase lots of things. Some with four legs some with two. I wonder how many legs she has chased in all? You know in some races they have different segments they call legs. Another type of race is one in boats where they use oars. Called crew. There are two types - sweeps - where you just pull on one oar with both hands and sculling where you have an oar in each hand. In England there are lots of crew races on the Thames such as Henley. And The Boat Race. That's between Oxford and Cambridge. My daughter spent time at both Oxford and Cambridge. She met her husband at Oxford. He was the president of the OUMC (Oxford University Mountaineering Club). They do a lot of climbing. In England. Both boys and girls. My dog is a girl. She chased me up a cliff once. It was 5.3 slab. She almost got it. But couldn't quite. Probably because she is a girl. I am a boy - so I led it for her. It's only natural. Shall we go around again? wheeee I went to England once. Took a photo of my wife in a stone circle as a fertility blessing. Turns out she was already pregnant by 1 month. Our first child. A boy. Or second child is a girl. Both climb. We went on two trips where I promised the boy he could do his first outdoor lead. We didn't get to climb on either trip. So the lad no lead. My wife still has upper back issues from carrying the kids when they were babies. That and she has sore rotator cuffs from punching so much. We got rid of our cats and I hate the dog next door. That leaves me to get the rope up. More fun going up the front, than round the back. Sometimes the back door is a nice variation. I tried to get in the backdoor of Stonehenge once. That's a stone circle in England. Very well known. Perhaps you have heard of it. Built by the Druids. They are not Christians. In Scandinavia they also had non Christian groups in the old days. Vikings and what not. They had horns. Both the boys and girls. All very horny I guess. Oslo in in Norway. There is a famous painting by Munch in a museum there. "The Scream". Reminds me of girls trying to lead. I saw a tv show about vikings, the archeologists have found evidence that the warrior men lived together in a separate house. They had shirts, and decorated them. I don't think they bouldered, but since they had iron, they might have done ice. Vanilla Ice would have made a good viking and boulder. Snorli Sturlesson is my favorite, he led. He was bold. I think I am related to Eric the Red. He had a beard too. But his was red. Mine is grey. Maybe mine turned grey because I got scared leading. But i have to because I am a boy. I knew a boy once, he didnt have a beard though. We ate bacon together. I really like bacon. I like pigs too, but that doesn't stop me from eating them. Chickens are cute too. I wish I could have a few, so I could get fresh eggs every morning, then I could have bacon omelets daily. I don't have any though, so I'm stuck eating oatmeal. Today's oatmeal is pretty awesome, strawberries, almonds, cranberries and raisins with vanilla. Man I love froot, it makes me strong, not freakish body builder strong, but send hard 5.4s strong. Maybe one day I'll lead one.
Kartessa leading is best left to the boys. I've seen girls cry before while climbing. More than once. I've never seen a boy cry while climbing. Its probably a male ego thing. When a girl cries on a climb its best just to roll with it. A man might crap his pants or barf, but he'll rarely cry. In the sunlight I have some red in my beard. I guess when I was born my mom was a little freaked out I'd be a red head. Luckily not. Just the same I can spell the word "red" multiple times with the letters in my name, without even reusing letters. It's odd. The connections are all there if you look. Even cats and dogs are connected on some level. Although cats are better climbers. Especially the boy cats.
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Diphthong
Apr 5, 2011, 8:05 PM
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jeepnphreak wrote: enigma wrote: So if my partner can lead to 5.11 trad. California 5.11 = 5.10a by Montana standards and our rock is shit choss too. so what is your point?
A quick look at your profile suggests that you have no idea what a 5.11 feels like.
P.S. I truly enjoyed your comment on Bodhisattva
jeepnphreak wrote: they do not go by a/b/c/d, if the books says 5.10+ than expect it to be close to and 5.11.
Brilliant!
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enigma
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BumpinUgly wrote: enigma wrote: TheRucat wrote: enigma wrote: If you are a guy ; I presume your male ego forces you to lead? Yes you are correct. Following and or top roping are signs of weakness. If we are to attract a mate we must show strength and prowess. In reply to: However given the chance would you rather follow? F that noise. In reply to: Can guys admit this? Clearly I can't. In reply to: I also have heard guys don't like other males to climb harder then them. Is that true? True. The alpha male must continuously defend his status, as they will be constantly challenged for this coveted position. If a challenger succeeds in out climbing an alpha male, they earn the rights to all the previous alpha male's privileges. Which I think includes his girlfriend. Finally ! It's funny because I've climbed with a few of these " elite alpha males" and they have said they won't even lead anything under 5.12, but would belay me on whatever 5.10 I wanted. Just in case someone saw them. Kind of a "Hugh Hefner" with all the playmates?  My ego is bigger than Hugh Hefner's. So are my balls.
Hugh Hefner uses Viagra just like Rick 
Well, I actually don't care much. So why would I care if my partner wants to lead as hard as I can follow.
I just want to have fun and climb.
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enigma
Apr 5, 2011, 8:11 PM
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redonkulus wrote: special_blend wrote: enigma wrote: While there alot of good reasons to lead. If you are a guy ; I presume your male ego forces you to lead? What's your opinion on this subject?  This makes me rage. Ego has nothing to do with it. Some men are compelled to lead, it simply seems like the natural choice. For them it seems like a natural decision to make to simply be a leader in some things or all things. It may not be because of his "ego" but rather simply because that's his drive, he has to lead to satisfy that burning need. It's got nothing to do with any type of self-centered behaviour where the man thinks he is somehow weaker or less of a man if he isn't leading or even following a woman. It could also be that when a guy is leading all the time it's because the people around him see him as a natural choice to leader, either because he has more experience, knowledge, is stronger, or perhaps because his personality makes him a natural fit to lead teams. Once again, nothing to do with any ego bullshit. I really fucking hate that bullshit feminist angle that Men constantly need to satisfy their "male ego" Pretty sure she means lead as in lead climbing, I.E. not being on top rope, rather than as in being a leader or charismatic figure that others follow.
True, They lead to their limit. I follow , clean , good belay. Everyone is happy at the end of the day.
We sit around the campfire. Its all good.
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enigma
Apr 5, 2011, 8:23 PM
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shotwell wrote: enigma wrote: While there alot of good reasons to lead. I've noticed that quite a bit of ladies don't even bother. The reason is simple. Generally the men I climb with lead harder and they want to climb harder So I'm happy just to follow. So if my partner can lead to 5.11 trad. They are going to want to try to climb as close to that. Personally I don't want to get hurt . So its not important to me. If you are a guy ; I presume your male ego forces you to lead?
However given the chance would you rather follow?
Can guys admit this?
I also have heard guys don't like other males to climb harder then them. Is that true?
What's your opinion on this subject?My female partner leads just as well as I do. As a matter of fact, she'll lead (first) more often than I do on sport pitches. We have different optimum styles, but we both do pretty well. Of the two of us, she is the more likely to be bent out of shape when she is out-performed. We've both also noticed a lot of women that simply top rope, however, they're certainly welcome to enjoy climbing in their own way.
Having a good day. No accidents, No problems, Fun , Why not?
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enigma
Apr 5, 2011, 8:27 PM
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ladyscarlett wrote: I lead so that when a hiker asks 'how did the rope get up there?' my partner can say "the rope gnome took care of it. She uses some kind of magic. She calls it friction, but I know it's just plain magic!" And then he takes a healthy sip from his handy flask. Wow, when I write it like that, it looks like I lead to get my partner sloshed... wow, this puts it all in a whole new light! HA! 2p LS
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Leading IS climbing,everything else is just practice.
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enigma
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Diphthong wrote: jeepnphreak wrote: enigma wrote: So if my partner can lead to 5.11 trad. California 5.11 = 5.10a by Montana standards and our rock is shit choss too. so what is your point? A quick look at your profile suggests that you have no idea what a 5.11 feels like. So are you saying all the climbs in California that are 5.11 are equal to 5.10a in Montana.? Even in Joshua Tree? P.S. I truly enjoyed your comment on Bodhisattva jeepnphreak wrote: they do not go by a/b/c/d, if the books says 5.10+ than expect it to be close to and 5.11. Brilliant! |
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