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dharmatreez
Mar 26, 2007, 9:35 PM
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OP edited to add Lost Crag coordinates
thanks! andy (truello)
everyone have a fun and safe spring!!!
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cintune
Mar 27, 2007, 2:10 PM
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eddietheteddie wrote: while not on public land i did see a nice cliff down past chickies. It was on the left while driving on 441 south from chickies. It was the largest of several. Its not Safe harbor or sex wall (that im aware of, theve been closed so long ive never been to either, but going off of all descriptions of the two), its right behind a house just off the road. Anyone see this place before, or any info on it.
If you mean the one by Long Level, south of Colombia, I've always looked at it driving past, but the house (trailer?) and the fact that it's right by the road always made it seem pretty likely no access. Plus, you never see anyone climbing it. Pretty sheer crag, though.
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chalker7
Mar 27, 2007, 2:54 PM
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I'm in for the boxcar clean-up so just let me know a couple weeks in advance.
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eddietheteddie
Mar 27, 2007, 7:34 PM
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yeah thats the place, might be something the PMA or acces fund should look into developing. Looks like a decent place.
BTW new climb PA guidebook is out, just got my copy, a must buy.
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truello
Mar 28, 2007, 3:31 AM
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Curt Harler wrote: For all of you rock jocks out there, the latest edition of CLIMB PENNSYLVANIA is now available. This second edition of the classic work first done in 1985 is expanded from 36 to 68 pages and is updated with new rock climbing areas, bouldering spots, ice climbing, indoor gyms, and lots of photos. Send your mailing address with cash, check or money order for $10 (includes postage and handling) to: Curt Harler 12936 Falling Water Strongsville, OH 44136 I'll even autograph your copy, if you'd like. Thanks for your interest, Curt Harler
FYI for others.
I ordered mine a few days ago, haven't seen the first one so this should be very interesting.
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dharmatreez
Mar 28, 2007, 12:01 PM
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i got mine a few weeks ago. it was not what i was expecting but aside from a few small beefs, to me it was still a good buy.
i have only seen random pages from the old guide, so i was dissappointed to find no maps in the new one, as the old guide had decent ones. there is one overview map of PA with locations ticked, but the scale and accuracy does not lend it to help with travel
overall there is 58 climbing locations (rock and bouldering only, not including ice and gyms).
23 of those are CLOSED (and a few are destroyed from housing development), that is almost 40% of the guide that is only historic. i personally never consider climbing at such areas, BUT would never pass judgement on another individual that does.
2 locations are out of Pennsylvania, Coopers Rock in WV and Cadrerock in MD
(...all of the above has motivated me even more)
there is a few routes described for most locations and they are written well and seemed to be identified well enough to find
if you climb ice there seems to be quite abit of new info and locations added with some areas described and an extensive list of waterfall locations around the state
the indoor climbing section seems to be comprehensive as well and seems to have a listing in all the major towns and cities around the state and anyone can find one within a reasonable drive
overall it was a good pickup, one should defientely grab it up this spring, you'll have a full season of climbing
happy trails and safe climbing
jae
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truello
Mar 28, 2007, 12:43 PM
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My concern is that it is just going to tell me what I already know. Is it missing any areas that we know about, or is it pretty comprehensive?
It's a little disappointing to hear about the lack of maps, but it was only $10 so I'll take what I can get.
It's too bad he couldn't make use of some of dharmatreez' awesome topos 
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dharmatreez
Mar 28, 2007, 1:01 PM
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truello wrote: Is it missing any areas that we know about, or is it pretty comprehensive
missing maybe about half (?) or more of the OP listing
In reply to: It's a little disappointing to hear about the lack of maps, but it was only $10 so I'll take what I can get.
its worth the 10 for sure, there is good route info for some areas and there might be a few areas not on someone's radar
In reply to: It's too bad he couldn't make use of some of dharmatreez' awesome topos
one might see that as copyright infringement, just kidding, i don't care what happens to them after i post, use them in a guide (i don't know they are that good), or if they end up starting your campfire, at least they were helpful
jae
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microbarn
Mar 28, 2007, 1:15 PM
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Aren't the majority of the areas addressed in the guide located in central and eastern PA?
I heard that it wasn't particularly useful for those in Western PA.
Can you confirm or deny this rumor?
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dharmatreez
Mar 28, 2007, 1:44 PM
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looks like western PA areas listings for include:
Climbing Area Section
- McConnell's Mill State Park
- Dickson Quarry
- Dunbar (a generic listing that is Krahlick, Coll's Cove, and Rebecca Rock)
- White Rocks (Uniontown)
- Mt. Davis (not a climbing area, but it's listed)
Bouldering Section
- Beartown Rocks
- Wolf Rocks (Windber - by Johnstown)
didn't notice that, you can pretty much put a line just past Johnstown running north to south, and everything else would be east of that line
jae
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truello
Mar 28, 2007, 2:17 PM
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dharmatreez wrote: i don't care what happens to them after i post, use them in a guide (i don't know they are that good), or if they end up starting your campfire, at least they were helpful jae
I was thinking more of an aid to bowel evacuation. Hah, j/k.
That surprises me about it being mostly eastern/central PA. I figured if he was from Strongsville, OH (near Cleveland) the majority of the climbs would be western PA. Especially since eastern PA is just as far of a drive from there as WV.
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eddietheteddie
Mar 28, 2007, 2:25 PM
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I was a bit suprised to see the focus on central PA crags. But it was interesting to see how some of the smaller spots had allota routes listed and larger ones few. Some decent photos too.
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roclimb
Mar 28, 2007, 9:42 PM
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The new climb PA is pretty cool; sad to see soo many closed areas in the book though. Other than that it's pretty nice.
FYI, Climbing and Bouldering Pennsylvania will FINALLY be available June 07. 400 pages of topos, descriptions, and a good bit of areas unknown to many climbers. All on public lands.
About the ARI at Boxcar,
Moby Neils anchor was vandilized and removed. I plan to go up next week and replace it ... again. This time it will be moved under the cliff where people cant remove the hangers or paint them.
The route listed as unnamed route is the route farther down the lead wall that has a set of chains on it. There is an anchor above an overhang (trad route) that is new--also vandized by paint--but was not part of ARI. Another anchor was placed above a climb called Retro Vertigo but one of the bolts was pulled off by somone.
I think next Wed. I may try to swing by after work and replace some hardware if anyone is nearby and out climbing?
~Rob
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cintune
Mar 28, 2007, 10:12 PM
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Posted this a while back in its own thread, but here goes again, fyi:
Travis Gault has published a 72-page guidebook to bouldering sites in the South Mountain/Piedmont areas, all within about 50 miles of Harrisburg. Sites described with detailed directions, maps, pics and ticklists include:
Whiskey Springs (54 climbs)
Mt. Gretna (70 climbs)
Walnut Bottom (69 climbs)
Purgatory (14 climbs)
Tumbling Run (49 climbs)
To order a copy or for more info call Travis at the Climbnasium, 717-795-9580.
Copies also available at Wildware, I think.
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eddietheteddie
Mar 28, 2007, 11:38 PM
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will this new guidebook be available online or at a gym? btw roclimb, the chains at (the unamed route?, the ones on the rock 20ft above retro vertigo) were spray painted and the chains later removed by someone, the hangers are still their though. If your gonna replace some stuff for sure next wedsday id be interested in helping (never bolted before) and to discuss a crag right along the road between chickies and safe harbor.
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chalker7
Mar 29, 2007, 12:21 AM
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Don't mean to hijack at all, but since there's a good bit of chatter about Boxcar from many of us here, I will. I plan to be at boxcar either Saturday or Sunday or both. If any are interested, PM me.
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chronicle
Mar 29, 2007, 5:14 PM
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Rob, glad to hear the guide is getting printed. I know I've been asking you about it since 2004, and it's was in the works for a while before that. I'm sure you're estatic to see this come to fruition.
Where will be able to purchase the guide?
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truello
Mar 29, 2007, 9:34 PM
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Got my guide in the mail today. Doesn't look like it'll be extremely useful to me but its nice to have. Like someone mentioned above, he doesn't get too indepth with the areas. For example, McConnells Mill has 3 routes listed.
Anyone else notice that he marked Krahlick as NORTH of Pittsburgh on his map? 
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dharmatreez
Apr 2, 2007, 1:21 PM
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nice Rob!
i've been waiting to hear something on your guide for a few years now it seems.
sort of the reason i started this free one, something to hold me over until the PA "bible" comes out.
i'm stoked!
jae
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roclimb
Apr 3, 2007, 10:03 PM
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eddietheeddie,
yeah, I plan to go to boxcar tomarrow night (wed). Should be there around 5:00. Sooner if I get done with my patients earlier. Feel free to swing by.
That sucks the chains were removed. I thought I put industrial lock-tite on them but must have only on the hangers.
~Rob
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eddietheteddie
Apr 4, 2007, 12:23 AM
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yeah ill try to be their, got a venture crew thing that night. But since they all climb, maybe well have it at boxcar. It is supposed to rai a bit tommorow though.
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dug1985
May 21, 2007, 3:01 AM
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mt minsi? any idea where that is cause i live right in the watergap and never hear of it. Directions? |
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dug1985
May 21, 2007, 1:58 PM
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Yeah ive climbed there alot and just never heard anyone call it mt minsi. I thought it was some seceret boulder area that noone knew about.
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Aug 22, 2007, 4:02 PM
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You haven't included Birdsboro, Livezey rocks.
Also, there is the Henry ave bridge in Philadelphia.....
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