It's 1986 all over again. I would have guessed that by now this topic would have died down. There were fanatics back then, and there are fanatics now (e.g. Curt). The truth, however, is still the same. Climbing, whether sport, trad, bouldering, alpine, or gym is all cool. And everything complements everything else.

Oh great, another scotch n00b to set straight.


No, I do not like Laphroiag or Ardbeg or the other heavy Islay malts as much as I like Lagavulin. Lagavulin is the only Islay malt that does use Sherry barrel aging to mitigate the intensely peaty and smoky characteristics of the whisky from that island.


Nope. Just a select few. And, fewer distilleries still age ALL their malt in Sherry barrels.


Wrong again. In the double-wood aging, the first aging is done in virgin American Oak Barrels, and the final aging is done in Sherry barrels.


OK. I'll be looking for it. Haha.

Curt

NOt a scotch noob you scotch snob, I've been drinking as long as you ahve in fact I'ma year older that you you young pup! just forgetful. It's been a while since ai did anything but drink em but I uesd to be in taht line of work, adn it isdemanding let me tell you, all that tasting, I mean, you have to be sure th stuff is good eh? And I do not limit myself to only scotch! Course I did mostly wine, but the prices of wine are sooo ooutrageous now. bah. @00 bucks for somethign that is not even ready to drink adn we used to get it for 24 0r 35. Rediculous!

YO ustill didn't say if you liked the balvenie single barrel 15 year. I kind of think it is way better than the double wood, but as a scotch heretic you might think differently.

NOt a scotch noob you scotch snob, I've been drinking as long as you ahve in fact I'ma year older that you you young pup! just forgetful. It's been a while since ai did anything but drink em but I uesd to be in taht line of work, adn it isdemanding let me tell you, all that tasting, I mean, you have to be sure th stuff is good eh? And I do not limit myself to only scotch! Course I did mostly wine, but the prices of wine are sooo ooutrageous now. bah. @00 bucks for somethign that is not even ready to drink adn we used to get it for 24 0r 35. Rediculous!

6 pages! Good thread Eman. Any use of the words sport and trad in the same sentence is guaranteed to launch the mother of all name-calling battles. I must admit that I'm a bit surprised that the sport v trad war is still so hot. I thought it died down years ago.

Where's the love? It's all climbing, just get out and climb whatever makes you hap

Do you remember 1986 Curt? Were you busy doing "B2" as your pretentious bio says that you were doing (yeah, right - in your dreams)

Do you remember 1986 Curt? Were you busy doing "B2" as your pretentious bio says that you were doing (yeah, right - in your dreams). Trad climbing is great - I love it and I've done tons of it. Sport climbing came along a lot later, but it's taken the sport in a direction that has been beneficial to the industry.

Alright last warning before the split tool comes out. Please refrain from the personal attacks and off topic posts.

Okay Curt, I apologize for spouting off at you. It wore thin leading the sport climbing charge back in the 80s. I just couldn't believe that it's still going on. It's entirely possible that we met sometime long ago. Below is a brief bio:

Name: Alan Watts
Age: 43
Hometown: Bend, Oregon
Climbing history: I did a lot of climbing at Smith Rock, California, and Europe during the 80s. I started as a trad climber and boulderer, but eventually moved on to sport climbing. I don't climb much anymore, but still pull down every once and awhile. I also did B2 back in 1982.

Chris is a great friend. He and Ruth live here in Bend. Chris is the strongest boulderer that I ever climbed with - an awesome talent. I always felt weak when I was around him (because I was).