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dr_feelgood
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Maybe you should stab him with a ptftw.
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dr_feelgood
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Or threaten/offer to curbstomp his offspring.
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dr_feelgood
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Palindromic PC. I am out with this post. Tomorrow I go to paramedic school, shoot guns and do a nonspecific, non-JT512, non climbing workout designed to boost my overall performance. I open the floor to those who wish to judge me. Even gum has a right to speak, just not a right to be listened to.
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dr_feelgood wrote: Palindromic PC. I am out with this post. Tomorrow I go to paramedic school, shoot guns and do a nonspecific, non-JT512, non climbing workout designed to boost my overall performance. I open the floor to those who wish to judge me. Even gum has a right to speak, just not a right to be listened to.
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wanderlustmd
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dr_feelgood wrote: granite_grrl wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c  Just wait till you read Trippers opinion.  Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon.  I hear ya on gas. I'm getting concerned about my trip. I suppose the rising gas costs will be somewhat offset by the fact that I won't be paying rent, though. Try to spend your time climbing at places that are free (both the climbing and the camping). (i.e. not eldo)
Or the Gunkage.
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obsessed
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chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. 
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granite_grrl
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wanderlustmd wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: granite_grrl wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon. I hear ya on gas. I'm getting concerned about my trip. I suppose the rising gas costs will be somewhat offset by the fact that I won't be paying rent, though. Try to spend your time climbing at places that are free (both the climbing and the camping). (i.e. not eldo) Or the Gunkage.
Honestly, I'd have a hard time not visiting a couple of higher cost areas on a road trip. I think the big thing is to pick and choose which ones to go to.
Maybe get a Golden Eagle pass (or whatever they call them now) so I can spend some time in Red Rocks (bivy in the dessert) and Devils Tower and maybe a couple of other places. I could spend a long time climbing at the Gunks I think, but for a $135 family pass I'd have to spend a LONG time there to justify it.
Hueco is another area that I'd like to go back to. You could sleep out in the dessert, but you'd still have to get a park pass. Again, on a really long trip it might not be worth it.
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wanderlustmd
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granite_grrl wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: granite_grrl wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon. I hear ya on gas. I'm getting concerned about my trip. I suppose the rising gas costs will be somewhat offset by the fact that I won't be paying rent, though. Try to spend your time climbing at places that are free (both the climbing and the camping). (i.e. not eldo) Or the Gunkage. Honestly, I'd have a hard time not visiting a couple of higher cost areas on a road trip. I think the big thing is to pick and choose which ones to go to. Maybe get a Golden Eagle pass (or whatever they call them now) so I can spend some time in Red Rocks (bivy in the dessert) and Devils Tower and maybe a couple of other places. I could spend a long time climbing at the Gunks I think, but for a $135 family pass I'd have to spend a LONG time there to justify it. Hueco is another area that I'd like to go back to. You could sleep out in the dessert, but you'd still have to get a park pass. Again, on a really long trip it might not be worth it.
Yeah, I ordered one of the national park passes (I also forget what they are called...I think it's America the Beautiful or something ghey like that.). It will help with getting around.
I'm already planning on Red Rocks. The Valley is also a big one. Devil's Tower is looking more and more appealing. Are the Needles free?
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wanderlustmd
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obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs.
The cougar rumor is true!
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the_climber
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wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true!
Did someone say C o u g a r ?
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artm
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tripperjm wrote: artm wrote: tripperjm wrote: stymingersfink wrote: tripperjm wrote: artm wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: artm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: Is anyone good at math? I have a question. Art would probably know this one. What does 12a + 12b + ~20degrees= ? There is kinda a rest at some jugs between the two, but it is kinda steep at that part so most of the weight is still on your arms so its tough to get a great recovery. New Root? I'd say 12b, but I'm probably the least qualified to do so. Are you talking two boulder problems with that rest in between? If it's not much of a rest like you say, maybe .12c. Who am I kidding, I have no friggin clue... Its a link up. The first crux is right off the ground then you go into the crux of the 12b. You get some pretty good jugs between the two but it isn't the best rest and you can never really fully shake the pump. You go into the second crux way more pumped than if you do the normal start. It doesn't really matter to much. Its just another route to add into the rotation. Its just kinda nice to have a gage on my training. I was supposed to go someplace different today and get on some new routes, but it is raining.  I feel like I'm in pretty good shape right now so I was excited to go rip it up. I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Call it 5.12b+ Confuse the shit out of everyone. The french rating system actually works better for sport climbing grades. humm, u r all rong.... cept the part about french grades more accurately discribing the the difficulty of sport routes. So, if you are a sprayer, you would have to call it 13a. Thats what jt512 would grade it. Cuz thats what he does to all of my routes. By the fact that you are hear talking about grades, leads me to believe.... spray!!!1 Personally, I've got to figure that the 12a and the 12b are both over rated by a grade to a grade and a half. So I would rate the link up 7a+ and let the posers whine. I'd have to send it to be sure, but it is likely a pretty gud guess. Nothing worse than having real guys walk your soft grades and down rating them... simplify things. Call it .11+ I was giving chossy the benifit of the doubt that he wasn't a full on poser by calling it 7a+. Personally I like to 'simplify' things... course people say I like to sandbag but they would be rong. You're also the guy who wants to call the $20 Dollar Hooker 6c The $20 Hooker won't get down rated at 6c....
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artm
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wanderlustmd wrote: granite_grrl wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: granite_grrl wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon. I hear ya on gas. I'm getting concerned about my trip. I suppose the rising gas costs will be somewhat offset by the fact that I won't be paying rent, though. Try to spend your time climbing at places that are free (both the climbing and the camping). (i.e. not eldo) Or the Gunkage. Honestly, I'd have a hard time not visiting a couple of higher cost areas on a road trip. I think the big thing is to pick and choose which ones to go to. Maybe get a Golden Eagle pass (or whatever they call them now) so I can spend some time in Red Rocks (bivy in the dessert) and Devils Tower and maybe a couple of other places. I could spend a long time climbing at the Gunks I think, but for a $135 family pass I'd have to spend a LONG time there to justify it. Hueco is another area that I'd like to go back to. You could sleep out in the dessert, but you'd still have to get a park pass. Again, on a really long trip it might not be worth it. Yeah, I ordered one of the national park passes (I also forget what they are called...I think it's America the Beautiful or something ghey like that. ). It will help with getting around. I'm already planning on Red Rocks. The Valley is also a big one. Devil's Tower is looking more and more appealing. Are the Needles free?
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artm
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the_climber wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true! Did someone say C o u g a r ?
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obsessed
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wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true!
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obsessed
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the_climber wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true! Did someone say C o u g a r ?
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obsessed
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artm wrote: the_climber wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true! Did someone say C o u g a r ? Should we add that to the list?
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obsessed
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obsessed wrote: artm wrote: the_climber wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true! Did someone say C o u g a r ? Should we add that to the list? Uh, NO
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the_climber
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obsessed wrote: the_climber wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true! Did someone say C o u g a r ? Down boy!
I already have a cougar at home.
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the_climber wrote: obsessed wrote: the_climber wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true! Did someone say C o u g a r ? Down boy! I already have a cougar at home.
You're wife is gonna kick your ass!
Sorry, it was right there.
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wanderlustmd wrote: the_climber wrote: obsessed wrote: the_climber wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true! Did someone say C o u g a r ? Down boy! I already have a cougar at home. You're wife is gonna kick your ass! Sorry, it was right there.
No she won't...
She knows it anyways. She's Hawt! Typical Irish temper, but Hawt! And she's a good co-driver for off road... even complanes if the truck isn't muddy enough!
She also puts up with me... 
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artm wrote: the_climber wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true! Did someone say C o u g a r ? Should we add that to the list?
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the_climber
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dr_feelgood wrote: artm wrote: the_climber wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: obsessed wrote: chossmonkey wrote: obsessed wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: obsessed wrote: Oh sure. I see how it is. <<< I meant to post that last week when I heard you added certain people to stalkbook Did i deny a friend request that i have forgotten about? Nope. You are not my friend. Apparently other people in here are...but I'm not I don't think I added you. But then you try to do everything you can so people think I associate with you. I didn't add you. I would like to pretend that you don't exist, but then I couldn't be friends with becs. I added you to mine. The cougar rumor is true! Did someone say C o u g a r ? Should we add that to the list? Aye!
If we're all in agreement...
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tripperjm wrote: chossmonkey wrote: tripperjm wrote: Nothing worse than having real guys walk your soft grades and down rating them... Hurts don't it? u r rong. None of my difficult routes have ever been down rated, that I know of. I have, however, seen the toll it takes on others when their difficult routes have been down rated. Generally my difficult routes get called sandbags.... and I'm OK with that. It's kinda a shame you live in a long forgotten, backwater, corner of the climbing community, cuz I would have been happy to come out, walk your hard routes and down rated them for you.
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chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: wanderlustmd wrote: chossmonkey wrote: artm wrote: I wouldn't give it a full 12c rating maybe b/c Just wait till you read Trippers opinion. Maybe I should have said "Art, you are just and fair, but we will call it 12c and you'll like it."? Sure. It doesn't really matter what Art or anyone else really thinks it is. Its just for my log so I can track my progress and or stagnation. I could call it 13a and the only person I would be fooling would be me. I could likewise call it 7a+ and feel like my climbing is stagnating in this hell hole. Hopefully we will get out to the closed place closer to home midweeks this summer. The next closest place with routes I'd want to do is 3+ hours away. Which is tough when you only have one day and gas is $5 a gallon.
I know that place fairly well. Last time I was there I took steve before he went to New York. You know how close to me that is?
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wanderlustmd wrote: Yeah, I ordered one of the national park passes (I also forget what they are called...I think it's America the Beautiful or something ghey like that. ). It will help with getting around. I'm already planning on Red Rocks. The Valley is also a big one. Devil's Tower is looking more and more appealing. Are the Needles free?
To use it at RR it needs to have the extra part added to the NPS pass. I think it was $15 more and it was called the golden eagle pass a few years ago.
If you have the time you can usually figure out ways to work the system. I spent two weeks climbing at RR and only paid $5 for getting in to climb and camping combined.
Devils Tower used to seem expensive until I met Frank and started staying at his place for cheep or in exchange for doing a little work. The Tower is in walking distance too so you don't need to drive.
Hueco it is $40 or something for a annual pass and if you do work for Rob you can stay there for free I think.
The SD Needles or the Cali Needles? In SD part of them are free. Only the stuff in Custer STPK you need to pay. But that is anything along the Needles Hwy., Sylavan Lake, and the Cathedral Spires. There is free camping on FS land.
Finding places where you can walk from camp to crag will save you a ton of money on gas.
Being from out east I think spending time at the Gunks would be a little stupid if that will be weekend tripable in the future for you. But as an example you could still climb there and have it be economical. The pass is expensive at first, but once you are there you can park your car and camp for free.
Paying for camping and climbing while driving to the crag everyday will kill your budget. But one of them is very workable.
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