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jabtocrag
Nov 18, 2003, 7:36 PM
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In reply to: jabtocrag-pot does not kill brain cells, it damages neural syanpses in your frontal lobe, meaning that your short-term memory strikes a hit. thats about all. and its not just like all other drug-bearing plants. its really not fair to generalize cannabis with other plants like opium, since they don't do anywhere close to the same thing-psychologically or physiologically. Pot can't supress your nervous system and cause respiratory failure the way opium can. Pot can't cause some of the most crushing addictions known to man like many opium products do. Pot can't make you see vivid hallucinations the way paoti can. Pot doesn't contain the poison nicotine like tobacco does. Pot does not contain a lingering presence of hyrdochloric acid for you to suck up your nose like the processed coca plant, nor is it as addictive. Pot cannot cause you to completely "lose touch with reality" the same way the psilocybin mushrooms can. your analogy was bad, not to mention your tone what that of a bully. shame on you for being so short-sighted.
Try doing a little research on effects of marijuana and you'll find out that it has quite a few documented long term effects very similar to that of other commonly abused drugs....on systems such as the nervous and respiratory systems. And while marijuana does not carry with it some of the same addictive qualities that opium does, it is still horribly addictive to a smaller subset of the population.
I will concede that some of the statements you made were correct, but you also chose to make reference to many things I never stated. As for the killing of brain cells, you may or may not be correct. There are studies that have shown this to be true, but others have shown the opposite. Who knows?
Of course, I don't get the bully comment. I perceived my response as quite civil!!
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jansuw
Nov 18, 2003, 8:30 PM
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I always had this image that if you took the same amount of tobacco and marijuana and smoked it without a filter, you're still getting similar things into your lungs, just a different high, because the active chemical is different (nicotine/THC). If you smoke cigarettes, you have no right to rag on weed. Basically we could have a discussion of the ethics of smoking! Smoking anything is basically unethical, for instance, what about people that might be around you that dont smoke, or in some countries, the burden on the public health system (not US)?
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wongwong
Nov 18, 2003, 8:37 PM
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Chris Sharma SHOULD be an example to all young climbers. He is an amazing athelete, well travelled, and world famous (at least among us climbers). Despite all this, and being a chick-magnet, the guy seems to have virtually no ego. He avoids spraying about his own awesomeness (and he is an awesome climber) and is a genuinely humble, insightful guy. Can you imagine another world class athlete (think Shaq, Deon Sanders, Jagr, etc.) who has even close to that amount of personal integrity and lack of ego? Let me know if you think of one (maybe Wayne Gretzky).
Those are the qualities that define Sharma and the fact he smokes pot should not in any way damage his "character". All climbers, especially elite ones, should strive to be more like Sharma. I personally would rather hang with a cool stoner than a straight-edge ass. In the end pot has nothing to do with it, unless you are more concerned with being narrowminded and judgemental than you are with looking for what really matters.
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dingus
Nov 18, 2003, 8:42 PM
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In reply to: Smoking anything is basically unethical, for instance,
Really? Unethical you say?
Strictly an academic question in my case you understand, but where do you stand on POLE SMOKING? Is that unethical too?
Just trying to keep things, um, straight, in my own mind.
Hehe
DMT
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rokshoxbkr19
Nov 18, 2003, 8:47 PM
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THIS IS THE STUPIDEST FUCKING POST, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MANY REPLIES IT HAS GOTTEN. I REALIZE I AM A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE I AM REPLYING, BUT I HAD TO SAY SOMETHING. GOD THIS IS FUCKING RETARDED!!! :o :x :x
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stevematthys
Nov 18, 2003, 8:50 PM
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In reply to: while marijuana does not carry with it some of the same addictive qualities that opium does, it is still horribly addictive to a smaller subset of the population.
The most common negative health impact of regular cannabis smoking are lung and throat problems including: coughing, increased frequency of throat and lung infections, and reduced lung capacity. There are concerns about possible long term carcinogenic (cancer causing) effects of cannabis smoking, but the results are still somewhat controversial. It can be safely said, however, that health risks increase with frequency and duration of smoking anything.
I dont think its anybody's buisness wether or not sharma smokes dope.
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climboard
Nov 18, 2003, 9:00 PM
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I think this thread is proof that not only does pot kill brain cells but so does reading about climbers who smoke pot.
I've lost quite a few just reading this but I can't seem to stop so I guess it's addictive too.
I think Chris Sharma is an excellent role model for young potsmoking climbers.
So there.
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ponca
Nov 18, 2003, 9:05 PM
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Wow, it took me forever to read through that. I will try to highlight some important points so that everyone can get caught up.
Sharma =Michael Jordan
Sharma =mafia drug lord
Sharma =Leonardo Dicaprio
Sharma is not WC champ
Sharma does not care about fans
Sharma is mellow
Sharma belongs in prison
Sharma may be gay
Sharma should be nailed to a cross
Sharma is a commercial
Sharma =Ronald McDonald
Sharma works for Haliburton
Sharma would be a good pres.
Sharma climbs in circles
Sharma has stinky feet
Sharma follows a drummer
Sharma =Randy Moss
Sharma =Emril
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freeclimberchris
Nov 18, 2003, 9:06 PM
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Do the Kennedy's like bullets.
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slablizard
Nov 18, 2003, 9:13 PM
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Agree.
Plus a nice fat joint after a satisfying day of climb is a pretty good thing.
Never Before. :-)
As for Sharma, it's ridicolous, Pot does not improves your phisical abilities, why did they disqualified him?
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elcapinyoazz
Nov 19, 2003, 12:58 AM
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For the Fast and Light Set:
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the_pirate
Nov 19, 2003, 4:19 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: This gives me an idea. We get Zig Zag or EZ Wider to manufacture "Chris Sharma Rolling Papers" then sell 'em at EMS or REI. That s--- will sell faster than Astroglide at a fetish convention. Dude! Let's throw in a Dean Potter "Unbreakable Bong!" He could also come up with a line of one handed Soloist Bongs with a built in piezo-electric bowl warmer. Huh? HUH? I think we could be on to something here! Steph Davis could sell matching gold "One Hitter" and chalk bags with secret compartments for the stash (gold of course). DMT
Why do we need her to make chalk bags with secret compartments for the stash? Are you telling me that the zippered pocket isn't for my stash? What next, you going to tell me that the little elastic loop isn't there for holding my pipe?
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dingus
Nov 19, 2003, 4:23 AM
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In reply to: Are you telling me that the zippered pocket isn't for my stash? What next, you going to tell me that the little elastic loop isn't there for holding my pipe?
Do you mean???
That little?
Um.
Whoa...
THANKS BRO! I GOTTA TRY THAT OUT!
late
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climb_plastic
Nov 19, 2003, 4:53 AM
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I think about 50 percent of the climbers I know smoke pot. So he's just a regular guy except he climbs 5.15. I don't think I would quit smoking or drinking or anything else I do just because I could climb 5.15.
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dynoguy
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In reply to: Give me a break. Let's remember, we are talking about a plant folks. Although I am an American, a Westerner to some, let's be honest here, its harmless, in fact it is legal in some countries, the more open-minded, less corporate oil driven ones in my opinion. If anything it has more positive effects than it does negative ones. Let's educate ourselves here, if "Pot" was legal from the day you were born this conversation wouldn't even be going on. It's as ridiculous as someone posting the question, does Sharma drink beer or smoke cigarettes? Are either of these arguments important to anyone? If they are, then you need to get a life and stop worryin about what someone else is doing, let him do what he wants, in fact, let everyone do what they want, you do what you want, i will do what i want, be my friend don't be my friend its all about personal decision, just stop judging people on whether or not they smoke. by the way, i smoke. judge away.
I smell a pot-head :lol: :lol:
But seriously, you should have more respect for your body. Its the most important thing you own, why pollute your lungs any more than necesary?
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cloimber
Nov 19, 2003, 5:30 AM
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im no sharma but, i used to be a career stoner, i would get ###### prolly too much, my fav was getting ###### and doing something active, whether it was skating playing frisbee or what, but i do tell you, climbing was the greatest thing on the planet, just mellowed you out and let you have a good time, dont get me wrong i climb still but dont smoke, mainly because its illegal but i still have a good time climbing, and i agree with the dozens of other people who pretty much say "let him do what he wants ( or anyone" and dont judge him for it ) well put, peace
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calfcramp
Nov 19, 2003, 6:59 AM
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I'd say it's a good bet he does.
I do. But can't imagine doing anything active/dangerous. Tried it once or twice and didn't climb well at all. Got all antsy. Different strokes for different folks i guess....
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noodlearms
Nov 19, 2003, 10:36 AM
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Good grief, who cares?
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wallwombat
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This thread is still going - cool. No wonder you guys are masters of the world (apologies to those females amongst you).
Seriously, who really gives a '' low flying duck''.
I recently ( we get mags late here ) read two different issues of CLIMBING magazine. One issue was a collected journal from Graham , Parady, and Kinder in Europe. The other was Sharma's diary in Europe. From those two articles , I can honestly say Chris Sharma seems like a young man who is pretty together and three stooges, well they must find it hard smoking pot with their heads that far up their asses.
I'm only a measley minion of the dark empire and I live a long way away, so I wouldn't really know. Still we are on your side. And I still get my say. Aint democracy wonderful.
The Wombat
P.S- The really wonderful thing about all of this is, there are now thousands of little gym bunnies all over the USA who now think that if they smoke enough bowls they'll climb 5.15 and boulder V15.
That tickles me :twisted:
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jaylaka
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In reply to: He didn't ask to become another MJ, the corporations marketed him as that. And whether he's smokes, or not, is the his business (along with the company that "owns" him).
definitely. i don't care what someone smokes (much like i don't care who someone sleeps with)...their business, not mine.
he does set a good example through his climbing, and that's what's important.
jen
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jaylaka
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In reply to: there are now thousands of little gym bunnies all over the USA who now think that if they smoke enough bowls they'll climb 5.15 and boulder V15.
WHAT?? so you mean i've been smoking bowls and talking smack daily FOR NOTHING??
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Easy now DynoGuy, I don't want it getting out, I think the irony of this entire discussion is that I wold bet over 50% of the people who have commented also smoke. Including you, I'm just playing, it seems we have gotten so far off topic here. The point is that he may or may not be a role model, but children don't need to know about the smoke, Sharma knows not to light up with a minor, and he knows that he is old enough to make his own decisions, like the rest of us, he isn't polluting society, he is a great climber, although I don't KNOW him, and he happens to light up the green every so often, no harm no foul. The kids can idolize him all he wants, I'm sure he loves kids, and he also might light up, but he's not giving them any, or selling it to them, so let sleeping dogs lie.
Climb and Smoke on Sharma. Go Kids.
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Nov 19, 2003, 5:09 PM
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In reply to: Wow, it took me forever to read through that. I will try to highlight some important points so that everyone can get caught up. :wink:
Oh and you forgot to say it’s his own business,,,, I read that like 50x,,
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I'm not sure what the big deal is either. It's not like he's taking drugs.
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oh hellz yeh.....I AM THE 101st POST!!!!!!!!!
i rule so hard.....
sharma doesnt smoke pot......
that is just faux weed.....
he told me himself......
look a bunch of periods............
i am going to stat a new thread today "does sharma smoke crack".....
cuz that is way relevant....
stop talking about this please.
no more post please, seven pages is enough when the same thing is repeated over and over in different ways..
the next person to post is a dootie head who pees his pants.
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