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steakboy
Nov 17, 2003, 5:30 PM
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I've heard this from several people... is it true, or just a rumor? He is the Michael Jordan of our sport. shouldn't he be setting a better example?
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nagatana
Nov 17, 2003, 5:34 PM
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He didn't ask to become another MJ, the corporations marketed him as that. And whether he's smokes, or not, is the his business (along with the company that "owns" him).
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maculated
Nov 17, 2003, 5:36 PM
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Is the Pope Catholic?
Who says he has to set an example at all? He could be a mafia drug lord and still send harder stuff than most. If you have a problem with his personal choices, then don't make him your inspiration. Kids aren't going to be sitting at some crag smokin' a doob going, "Man, I am so cooooool. Sharma does this, too."
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shaggyj
Nov 17, 2003, 5:37 PM
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No doubt......
Below is a clip from a 2001 news story about Sharma getting stripped of his world cup title.
Secondly, climbers shouldn't be your role models. We are selfish and self-absorbed.
"Chris Sharma has been stripped of his Munich World Cup bouldering title after failing the event’s mandatory drug test. According to Marco Scolaris, GeneralcSecretary for the International Council for Competition Climbing (ICC), traces of cannabis were detected in Sharma's urine sample. Sharma won the Munich competition on July 23, just days after sending one of the toughest routes in the world: Realization (5.15a), in Ceuse, France. After the ICC was notified of the drug test results, Sharma was “removed from the ranking, consequently losing placement and relevant points for the final WC ranking,” says Scolaris. “Moreover, he will be requested to return the trophy and money prize.” Spaniard Daniel Andrada, who placed second in the event, will now move up to first place.
The ICC currently oversees drug tests in 80 percent of their competitions.
Marijuana, among other drugs, is a banned substance. In Munich, Sharma underwent a random drug test before the event, and then, after winning, he was tested again. According to the regulations on doping issues, Sharma can appeal the case and request another test on the second sample, but at his own expense. The ICC Disciplinary Commission will convene next week to decide a possible sanction, usually a three-month suspension for the first infraction. Stay tuned for further reports on the ICC decisions."
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maculated
Nov 17, 2003, 5:37 PM
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Uhh, and I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a pro that doesn't. I could be wrong.
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sbclimber
Nov 17, 2003, 5:40 PM
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seriously, it is not up to him to set examples.
In reply to: If you have a problem with his personal choices, then don't make him your mentor.
In reply to: He didn't ask to become another MJ, the corporations marketed him as that. |
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buzzardboy
Nov 17, 2003, 5:43 PM
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That's his business...
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justin
Nov 17, 2003, 5:44 PM
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Hell George Bush used to do coke, think how much better we'd all climb on that!
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bonesbrigade
Nov 17, 2003, 5:44 PM
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Give me a break. Let's remember, we are talking about a plant folks. Although I am an American, a Westerner to some, let's be honest here, its harmless, in fact it is legal in some countries, the more open-minded, less corporate oil driven ones in my opinion. If anything it has more positive effects than it does negative ones. Let's educate ourselves here, if "Pot" was legal from the day you were born this conversation wouldn't even be going on. It's as ridiculous as someone posting the question, does Sharma drink beer or smoke cigarettes? Are either of these arguments important to anyone? If they are, then you need to get a life and stop worryin about what someone else is doing, let him do what he wants, in fact, let everyone do what they want, you do what you want, i will do what i want, be my friend don't be my friend its all about personal decision, just stop judging people on whether or not they smoke. by the way, i smoke. judge away.
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keinangst
Nov 17, 2003, 5:47 PM
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Wow, I'm surprised that they really test for weed in athletic competitions. In terms of performance enhancement, I didn't think it would give anyone an advantage (maybe a mental focus edge for some people).
That's ridiculous. After years of being a smoker, I personally think that weed makes most people lazy, slow, emotionally unstable, and boring...but that's just my experience. I definitely don't think it should be illegal, or a banned substance for climbing comps. Is it a safety concern, or a performance one?
Are they tested for caffeine? How about vitamin supplements? Hope those climbers aren't eating red meat, the protein could give them an advantage... :roll:
EDIT: Sharma did look pretty blazed in the Realization vid...am I the only one who noticed? :wink:
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micahmcguire
Nov 17, 2003, 6:00 PM
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yes he does, and no he shouldn't have to worry about setting any examples for his throngs of impressionable jr. high gym rat fans. He is one badass dude, a raw climber, and he seems like a cool kid, but an example? You kids keep trying to yeild moral examples from every bloody celebrity! Shouldn't you be trying to find better examples-good friends, good teachers, family? Aren't those a bit closer to home and more reakistic? Sharma doesn't know or give a crap about most of his fans, he just wants to climb. He certainly holds no obligation to lead his life by his fans' say-so. Its not his fault the gym rats are making him the new "Leonardo DiCaprio" of climbing. I say, to all you who have an ethical problem with Sharma smoking pot or who need Sharma's ethical wisdom as a model for your life, knock off the rediculous hero-worship and figure out your own life. And to those who say that smoking the herb is unethical, I better not catch you drinking beer, smoking cigs, or drinking coffee in the morning either.
On a somewhat hypocritical note, if you all are looking for heros-check out the Burgess twins. Now there's a moral example you can set your watch to!
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malabarista
Nov 17, 2003, 6:02 PM
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I love how it changes your outlook ever so slightly... Just keep your usage at a sane level.
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freudian
Nov 17, 2003, 6:16 PM
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I think Sharma or any climber should be able to smoke, sniff, drink and inject anything they want. It's no one's business what substances, however legal or illegal, they take. Pot is probably safer than drinking, but that's another debate.
At my local crag, 90% of the climbers drink and most of them think it's just the greatest thing to go camp out for climbing and every evening drink alot and get smashed. I don't understand that, as I don't drink, but hey, if that's what they want to do and it lets them have a good time... that's fine.
I'd have to say 25-50 percent of the climbers at my crag also smoke some pot from time to time and maybe 15% smoke it regularly. It's not illegal to have really small amounts of pot where I live, but that's besides the point. I dont have a problem with pot, though I don't smoke it myself. I would be more inclined to try pot than to drink beer. I feel it's the lesser of the two 'supposed' evils by some people's standards.
So basically what I'm saying is that everyone should do what they want and weather someone smokes pot, drinks or even snorts a trace from time to time shouldn't be an issue in the media. It's just an easy scoop for news reporters.
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jansuw
Nov 17, 2003, 6:20 PM
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I did a project for a health class on marijuana. I took a book from the school library and just talked about that basically. As far as I understood, the sole motive for banning marijuana was to give the Texas police a reason to prosecute the Mexies. The mexies smoked pot (as well as the black population) while the white folk smoked cigarettes. Pot was easier to come by, the stuff can grow everywhere! The USA started the war against drugs and other countries followed suit, mainly due to political reasons. Anyone out there against legalizing marijuana should be campaining for illegalizing alcohol and tobacco, because they are bigger social issues. :?
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cgranite
Nov 17, 2003, 6:26 PM
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Why do you think he's so mellow!!!
Just watch rampage, it doesn't show them smoking,...but does it need to.
It's just a LITTLE obvious.
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cloudbreak
Nov 17, 2003, 6:27 PM
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Who cares?
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dwm81281
Nov 17, 2003, 6:29 PM
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If the US government were really with it, they'd swipe all the crops and hand them over to their buds in corporate america and market the stuff like cigarettes. they'd make a killing instead of spending the money busting poor high school kids who forget to take their weed out of their pockets before school. Before somebody lights me up on that one (no pun intended, really) I know that's not the whole picture but that's my only personal experience with the war on the drugs.
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da5id
Nov 17, 2003, 6:34 PM
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In reply to: He didn't ask to become another MJ, the corporations marketed him as that. And whether he's smokes, or not, is the his business (along with the company that "owns" him).
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gravitytheory
Nov 17, 2003, 6:36 PM
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The "war on drugs" started during the depression to keep the budget high when there wasn't any money. Nuff said.
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vertical_reality
Nov 17, 2003, 6:37 PM
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In reply to: Just watch rampage, it doesn't show them smoking,...but does it need to. It's just a LITTLE obvious.
Don't look out window. :lol:
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rockfax
Nov 17, 2003, 6:39 PM
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In reply to: "Chris Sharma has been stripped of his Munich World Cup bouldering title after failing the event’s mandatory drug test. According to Marco Scolaris, GeneralcSecretary for the International Council for Competition Climbing (ICC), traces of cannabis were detected in Sharma's urine sample. Sharma won the Munich competition on July 23, just days after sending one of the toughest routes in the world: Realization (5.15a), in Ceuse, France. After the ICC was notified of the drug test results, Sharma was “removed from the ranking, consequently losing placement and relevant points for the final WC ranking,” says Scolaris.
Note who is doing all the talking in the above quote.....Marco Scolaris....perhaps the biggest UIAAA promoter of climbing as an Olympic sport.....me thinks Scolaris' standing with the International Olympic Commitee went up after this "incident"....meaning he'll be able to claim the "bounty" from the UIAA when climbing becomes an Olympic sport.
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baza_arrampicare
Nov 17, 2003, 6:42 PM
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uh, you are going to be hard pressed to find a pro climber who doesn't smoke pot. And did he ask to be an example? Personally, i think he can do whatever he damn well wants to, he has only sent one of the toughest climbs in the world... :roll: Besides, it's his business...and kids are going to smoke pot any way. rather smoke then drink
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bbziger
Nov 17, 2003, 6:54 PM
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Someone should notify the authorities so we can throw his ass in prison where he belongs.
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dingus
Nov 17, 2003, 7:34 PM
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I think he may be gay.
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nagatana
Nov 17, 2003, 7:35 PM
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Lemme extend my original post with a cheesy quote from Spiderman:
"With great power comes great responsibility."
When you're thrust into a position like that, you can either take the ball and run with it, or pass it on. And that's Sharma's prerogative.
Yes, in a way he did "sign on" to the job by being sponsored and marketed, but how far should the job go? Should he sacrifice his life for us? It's easy to point fingers and say he's "wasting" a great opportunity, but it could easily be said about us not bettering things on a local level.
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