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curt


Jun 28, 2008, 2:50 AM
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bigwhitej wrote:
SOME PEOPLE.......do you not have anything better to do than throw a temper tantrem in a climbing forum........Dont need to feel so offended by someone elses opinion.Pirate

It's "tantrum" fucktard.

Curt


MikeSaint


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I have to say Bigwhitej that I am impressed you are still responding to these comments. I feel you're deserving of a real reply:

Have you contacted the government for a permit to go rock climbing? Homeland Security needs to authorize your presence on cliffs. Otherwise you could be mistaken as a drug runner on higher cliffs and the country side.

By having an authorized permit, you will be free to evaluate the bolting of given routes outside to determine a safety and risk assessment.

There are those who dont and end up with hefty fines.

Good luck to you!


notapplicable


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bigwhitej wrote:
SOME PEOPLE.......do you not have anything better to do than throw a temper tantrem in a climbing forum........Dont need to feel so offended by someone elses opinion.Pirate


Well heres the thing man. You and the few others who are talking about the need for safely equipped routes, doing it right the first time and retro bolting have failed to address the very valid questions put to you. If you had your way, an entire style of climbing would cease to exist. How can you justify robbing your fellow climbers of an experience that they enjoy when the majority of bolted routes already conform to your ideal?

If you want to be taken seriously and not have everyone shout "STFU nOOb, then you have to defend your assertions and addressee the questions put to you.

You see where I'm coming from. An indefensible position is a wrong by default. So far your in default.


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MikeSaint wrote:
I have to say Bigwhitej that I am impressed you are still responding to these comments. I feel you're deserving of a real reply:

Have you contacted the government for a permit to go rock climbing? Homeland Security needs to authorize your presence on cliffs. Otherwise you could be mistaken as a drug runner on higher cliffs and the country side.

By having an authorized permit, you will be free to evaluate the bolting of given routes outside to determine a safety and risk assessment.

There are those who dont and end up with hefty fines.

Good luck to you!

. . . **chirp chirp** . . .


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BALETED.


(This post was edited by spikeddem on Jun 28, 2008, 5:02 AM)


tready


Jun 28, 2008, 5:31 AM
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Well don't let go of the rock and you won't have to worry about where the bolts are.

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If I happen to eye a route that seems as though there may be a good probability I might accidentaly let go of the rock before I reach the first bolt, I tend to go find another line. I would advise you to do the same.


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bigwhitej wrote:
SOME PEOPLE.......do you not have anything better to do than throw a temper tantrem in a climbing forum........Dont need to feel so offended by someone elses opinion.Pirate
Wait... waaaiiittt......
Didn't you COME here, make an account, and start a new thread just to have your little "temper tantrem" about high bolts?
Curt's right, you are a fucktard.
A whiny, annoying fucktard that is what is wrong with climbing.


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bigwhitej wrote:
woland84 wrote:
rsmillbern wrote:
notapplicable wrote:
bigwhitej wrote:
It seems that climbing has become to much of a mocho sport and not about having fun.....that should be the most important part!


For some, climbing "above the bolt" is fun. How are you not getting this. Some like superfluously bolted routes, some do not, there is room for everyones style of climbing.

True!!! There is always HCR ifin's ya like lot's O close spaced bolts....

yea I went to Horseshoe and couldn't help but skip bolts. Orange crush has 14 bolts in 90 ft of 5.8 climbing. If I wanted to carry that much metal I'd go look for crack.

Well you dont want to clip every bolt then only bring 7 draws and be a tough guy and run it out.
Like I said, you must be SERIOUSLY mentally challenged (yep, spelt it right this time, :P) to write that.
It's exactly what he said he did. I like the "tough guy" bit. All the fucktards who only climb for the physical challenge and want it to be as safe as thier gym where they pump iron always call the people who climb for reasons more than endo rush "touch guy".
Yes, that's right, we are much, much tougher than you.
Now run away and go back to hiding your head up your tight little asshole.


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sungam wrote:
bigwhitej wrote:
woland84 wrote:
rsmillbern wrote:
notapplicable wrote:
bigwhitej wrote:
It seems that climbing has become to much of a mocho sport and not about having fun.....that should be the most important part!


For some, climbing "above the bolt" is fun. How are you not getting this. Some like superfluously bolted routes, some do not, there is room for everyones style of climbing.

True!!! There is always HCR ifin's ya like lot's O close spaced bolts....

yea I went to Horseshoe and couldn't help but skip bolts. Orange crush has 14 bolts in 90 ft of 5.8 climbing. If I wanted to carry that much metal I'd go look for crack.

Well you dont want to clip every bolt then only bring 7 draws and be a tough guy and run it out.
Like I said, you must be SERIOUSLY mentally challenged (yep, spelt it right this time, :P) to write that.
It's exactly what he said he did. I like the "tough guy" bit. All the fucktards who only climb for the physical challenge and want it to be as safe as thier gym where they pump iron always call the people who climb for reasons more than endo rush "touch guy".
Yes, that's right, we are much, much tougher than you.
Now run away and go back to hiding your head up your tight little asshole.


Dont hold back, this is the internet, go ahead and tell the man what you really think.Tongue


sungam


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notapplicable wrote:
Dont hold back, this is the internet, go ahead and tell the man what you really think.Tongue
oh... okay.....
I WANT YOU!















I don't want you, fucktard. Not even a whale with the face of a pitt-bulls ass would want you.


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sungam wrote:
Not even a whale with the face of a pitt-bulls ass would want you.


LaughLaughLaugh


Thats the first time I've heard that one...


12inchtick


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All other issues aside, if you're skimping on bolts solely because it's expensive, fuck off. How about you save some money by not bolting at all. Do it right or don't bolt. That goes for bolt ladders. I saw an overhanging 13 that had bolts every 5 feet for 35 feet, on RC.com of course. The logic was...allow you to get back on easily if you fell.

That way you can hang your way up the route? I don't climb 13's, but if I ever do, that's not going to be how I do it.

When did fucktard become common? Damn kids these days, no respect for their elders.


MikeSaint


Jun 28, 2008, 5:37 PM
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Would somebody just bomb this thread with pictures?


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Jun 28, 2008, 5:49 PM
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12inchtick wrote:
All other issues aside, if you're skimping on bolts solely because it's expensive, fuck off. How about you save some money by not bolting at all. Do it right or don't bolt. That goes for bolt ladders. I saw an overhanging 13 that had bolts every 5 feet for 35 feet, on RC.com of course. The logic was...allow you to get back on easily if you fell.

That way you can hang your way up the route? I don't climb 13's, but if I ever do, that's not going to be how I do it.

When did fucktard become common? Damn kids these days, no respect for their elders.
Respect must be earned, not dispensed willy-nilly to those who've had the good grace not to win a Darwin award yet.


The .13 is probably done up as you described so that it could even be bolted in the first place.


Why must you rag on the bolt installation on a route you can't even climb? That's what started this whole mess anyway.Crazy

Come back and bitch about it when you can climb it clean (if you still feel like bitching about it). Until that day comes, you're just talkin' out yer ass on the subject, fucktard.


So, till then...


STFU!


notapplicable


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MikeSaint wrote:
Would somebody just bomb this thread with pictures?





Careful what you wish for...


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bigwhitej wrote:
Yo I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE.....You are 100% right.... It should not be all about mocho and ego as it appears on this forum by some people.....It seems that climbing has become to much of a mocho sport and not about having fun.....that should be the most important part!

WTF does mocho mean?


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shockabuku wrote:
bigwhitej wrote:
Yo I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE.....You are 100% right.... It should not be all about mocho and ego as it appears on this forum by some people.....It seems that climbing has become to much of a mocho sport and not about having fun.....that should be the most important part!

WTF does mocho mean?
iz like Mocha, but with more "Ohhh". It really gets the eyez Ohhh-pen quick!


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sungam wrote:
-MagnuS
(p.s. spell check is just another piece of bs modern conformism!)

That's right; in the past people used to actually learn to spell.


gargrantuan


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josephgdawson wrote:
I draw a distinction between a good route and a good climb. A climb can be good, but because it is runout it is a poor route. For a route to be good the climb has to be good as well at the bolting or pro.

this is simply a justification for being a giant pussy. your distinction is meaningless.


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shockabuku wrote:
sungam wrote:
-MagnuS
(p.s. spell check is just another piece of bs modern conformism!)

That's right; in the past people used to actually learn to spell.
Learning to spell is for people TOO LAZY to invent their own spelling.


sungam


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big white j, please come back. I needz entertainment. Also, I heard that people who bolt too high are cockheads, would you concur?


MikeSaint


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I believe bigwhitej is talking to Homeland Security to obtain a rock climbing permit.


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2 words
ground up
and if your not keen on that stick to sport climbing and not traditinal face routes
I cant belive some of the resopnses on this?????
You guys suck!


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live2climb wrote:
2 words
ground up
and if your not keen on that stick to sport climbing and not traditinal face routes
I cant belive some of the resopnses on this?????
You guys suck!
We may suck, but at least we get paid by our clients.
No one, however, pays you to be as mentally retarded as an e-tarded moose with the face of micheal jackson when he's 60.


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sungam wrote:
live2climb wrote:
2 words
ground up
and if your not keen on that stick to sport climbing and not traditinal face routes
I cant belive some of the resopnses on this?????
You guys suck!
We may suck, but at least we get paid by our clients.
No one, however, pays you to be as mentally retarded as an e-tarded moose with the face of micheal jackson when he's 60.
you do suk...

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