Just curious as to how important "doing it right" as opposed to "getting it done" is. Please include your gender and why you picked your answer. Thanks!
I'd really like to have honest answers too...we will all assume 5.13 C is the hard grade and 5.13 a is the easier grade. Which is more meaningful...the grade or the style?
(This post was edited by karmiclimber on Feb 1, 2010, 2:32 PM)
Just curious as to how important "doing it right" as opposed to "getting it done" is. Please include your gender and why you picked your answer. Thanks!
I'd really like to have honest answers too...we will all assume 5.13 C is the hard grade and 5.13 a is the easier grade. Which is more meaningful...the grade or the style?
Barely making it up a harder grade, I donīt care about the grade but I love having a challenge I really have to fight with to complete. I rather send something that takes more effort then something I can cruise
No honey, it was in the body of my message, bless your heart. You get a pass dingus...I know you are all man ;-)
Ah!
Mark me down for ''slightly easier but with style' , gender male, and when we going climbing karmi? If you lead all the lines then I don't have to worry about style at all!
DMT
(This post was edited by dingus on Feb 1, 2010, 2:39 PM)
As a true man, I enjoy just barely making it. I have gotten more satisfaction from routes that scared the crap out of me and I survived after all. I do enjoy cruising routes too but it's not as good.
Just curious as to how important "doing it right" as opposed to "getting it done" is. Please include your gender and why you picked your answer. Thanks!
I'd really like to have honest answers too...we will all assume 5.13 C is the hard grade and 5.13 a is the easier grade. Which is more meaningful...the grade or the style?
It all depends who is watching, I would say if some hot babe is watching go for style, if some random dood is wathcing I couldn't care crap, go for MAX.
The satisfaction of barely making it up a climb that's at your limit is fantastic. You really have to push yourself to the brink of both your physical and mental limit.
Numbers isn't what it's all about, they are only give you an idea of how hard you'll have to push. An "easier" climb can be hugely challenging if it's not your style.
If you can't figure out my gender you need to be slapped upside the head.
I am not sure what you mean by 'barely making it".
If by barely making it you mean hang everywhere, grab draws, step on bolts, and get help from rope tension -- then no, I would rather send an easier climb with style, without any questions or allegations abour whether I really climbed it cleanly. There have been couple climbs that I was happy to just get to the anchors on, but they aren't something to be proud of-- unless I eventually go back and send cleanly.
If by barely making it you mean that it took forever to redpoint, you were not at all certain you could do it, and you sent it finally on a day where the conditions, and your climbing shape, were just right, and still only managed to do it by the skin of your teeth, but are not at all sure you would be able to repeat it once more... then sure, count me in that category, I would be WAAAYY more proud of that barely-able-to-do-it send than of sending an easier climb.
The satisfaction of barely making it up a climb that's at your limit is fantastic. You really have to push yourself to the brink of both your physical and mental limit.
Numbers isn't what it's all about, they are only give you an idea of how hard you'll have to push. An "easier" climb can be hugely challenging if it's not your style.
If you can't figure out my gender you need to be slapped upside the head.
Just curious as to how important "doing it right" as opposed to "getting it done" is. Please include your gender and why you picked your answer. Thanks!
I'd really like to have honest answers too...we will all assume 5.13 C is the hard grade and 5.13 a is the easier grade. Which is more meaningful...the grade or the style?
It all depends who is watching, I would say if some hot babe is watching go for style, if some random dood is wathcing I couldn't care crap, go for MAX.
But if the babe is a climber, she won't give a shit how gracefully you onsight that 5.6.
If "just barely making it up" means without falling or aiding, then I would choose that of course.
But I have the feeling it means any manner of wankery is acceptable - resting on intermediately placed gear placed specific for that purpose, placing gear blindly overhead and asking for tension to "free climb" through, falling repeatedly, and more. I simply don't think I would find that satisfying.
So of course I would choose the "easier but with style" since that's that's the only other option you offer.
But I definitely give you Style Points for creating a good climbing-related thread for poor old, doddering rec.com.... Business has been slow round these parts of late!
I'm not sure how to answer this either. I like climbing at my limit. Sometimes I get things clean and sometimes I fall. Of course I prefer to get things clean, but that's not always on an easier grade.
Just curious as to how important "doing it right" as opposed to "getting it done" is. Please include your gender and why you picked your answer. Thanks!
I'd really like to have honest answers too...we will all assume 5.13 C is the hard grade and 5.13 a is the easier grade. Which is more meaningful...the grade or the style?
It all depends who is watching, I would say if some hot babe is watching go for style, if some random dood is wathcing I couldn't care crap, go for MAX.
But if the babe is a climber, she won't give a shit how gracefully you onsight that 5.6.
ME LIKE CLIMB HARD. I IS A MAN. GARRRRRRRR!
If babe is a climber, I usually just give up hope.... they are all better than me anyway
Just curious as to how important "doing it right" as opposed to "getting it done" is. Please include your gender and why you picked your answer. Thanks!
I'd really like to have honest answers too...we will all assume 5.13 C is the hard grade and 5.13 a is the easier grade. Which is more meaningful...the grade or the style?
I love onsighting when it is right at my limit, and I can barely clip the chains. I chose the lower grade. I find working routes to be sort of pointless unless I have done all of the routes at an area, and that rarely happens because I never get too hung up on one crag.
While I enjoy climbing hard I get a lot of satisfaction from finishing a climb and feeling that I was perfectly in tune with my body and the route. I love the feeling of control!
Just curious as to how important "doing it right" as opposed to "getting it done" is. Please include your gender and why you picked your answer. Thanks!
I'd really like to have honest answers too...we will all assume 5.13 C is the hard grade and 5.13 a is the easier grade. Which is more meaningful...the grade or the style?
It all depends who is watching, I would say if some hot babe is watching go for style, if some random dood is wathcing I couldn't care crap, go for MAX.
But if the babe is a climber, she won't give a shit how gracefully you onsight that 5.6.
guy, chose easier, don't really care about climbing hard, per se. I'm more interested in getting out and having fun. I do occassionally push my limit and I do prefer to climb at my limit most of the time, but I'd rather have fun than struggle mightily. I struggle mightily with enough other things in life that I don't need that stuff invading my fun.
I am not sure what you mean by 'barely making it".
If by barely making it you mean hang everywhere, grab draws, step on bolts, and get help from rope tension -- then no, I would rather send an easier climb with style, without any questions or allegations abour whether I really climbed it cleanly. There have been couple climbs that I was happy to just get to the anchors on, but they aren't something to be proud of-- unless I eventually go back and send cleanly.
If by barely making it you mean that it took forever to redpoint, you were not at all certain you could do it, and you sent it finally on a day where the conditions, and your climbing shape, were just right, and still only managed to do it by the skin of your teeth, but are not at all sure you would be able to repeat it once more... then sure, count me in that category, I would be WAAAYY more proud of that barely-able-to-do-it send than of sending an easier climb.
I'd rather work my ass off and make a mess out of accomplishing a route that I didnt think I could do ON MY OWN (ie no hanging on the rope, no hints from below, no grabbing the draws etc) than look pretty doing a route that I can figure out from the ground.
I like to do both. The beauty of it is that one often helps with the other. "Getting it done" on a hard climb often helps me "do it right" on an easier climb and vice-versa. Oh, and male.
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