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petje
Aug 13, 2007, 10:47 AM
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stone_d_cologne wrote: chrtur wrote: Regarding the Voyage Selon Gulliver a friend did it last year and told me it was beatiful! Still a little out of my freeclimbing skills  go to the gym!
go sportclimb!
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chrtur
Aug 13, 2007, 11:08 AM
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It is closed now  Anyway we did two days this weekend training our cracktechnique in Orco which is muck nicer trainingarea compared to the gym 
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tisar
Aug 13, 2007, 12:05 PM
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chrtur wrote: It is closed now Anyway we did two days this weekend training our cracktechnique in Orco which is muck nicer trainingarea compared to the gym
Would tend to agree here... not that our day at the Orca valley was the most successful last year Anyway, even belaying there seems more fun then climbing in any gym I know.
Spent saturday at the gym with Nik (tallnik), Canadian guy from around here. Seems he might get me back into a regular training schedule. At least I hope so.
BTW, he and another girl from rc.com are eager to climb in Saxony in September. I wanna join them, but we'd need someone to show us around a little. I know my knots, but since I'm such a chicken on lead, it would be a little boring to have me as the single ropegun (more the barrel-burst type of gun...).
Anybody around to lead some Elbi-noobs to climbable routes there? If all goes wrong, I already proposed to book Bernd Arnold for a day...
Have a nice one!
- Daniel
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overlord
Aug 13, 2007, 1:30 PM
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tisar wrote: Spent saturday at the gym with Nik (tallnik), Canadian guy from around here. Seems he might get me back into a regular training schedule. At least I hope so. BTW, he and another girl from rc.com are eager to climb in Saxony in September. I wanna join them, but we'd need someone to show us around a little. I know my knots, but since I'm such a chicken on lead, it would be a little boring to have me as the single ropegun (more the barrel-burst type of gun...).
really? how is nik? i didnt know he was in eruope at this time. if you see him again, say hello to him for me pls.
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uasunflower
Aug 14, 2007, 6:06 PM
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Chtur, Le Sourire de l'Eté is another route apparently to be done on Grand Cap - mostly trad, with lots of route finding, rusty pitons and great granite...
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stone_d_cologne
Aug 15, 2007, 12:04 PM
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tisar wrote: chrtur wrote: It is closed now Anyway we did two days this weekend training our cracktechnique in Orco which is muck nicer trainingarea compared to the gym Would tend to agree here... not that our day at the Orca valley was the most successful last year Anyway, even belaying there seems more fun then climbing in any gym I know.
agreed on the fun factor!
but what about boosting the fun outside by training in the gym? can be fun as well. think of all the dudettes and dudes in sexy climbing clothing, the latte, the chat...
you people sound like runners who love to run marathons but refuse to train for it.
remember that climbing gyms were invented by skilled british climbers who wanted to be weather-independent and not meant as domes for a new fun sport.
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petje
Aug 15, 2007, 1:19 PM
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just look at it as a different kind of 'rock'.
It can be fun, it's always dry, you can climb in the winter when it keeps wet and freezing outside there.
They have coffee.
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petje
Aug 16, 2007, 8:01 AM
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Did you see the rain the last months? sometimes it's impossible to climb outside. Even with this totally shit weather yesterday, stone and i were climbing outside (sort of)
I didn't see plastic for months now, but i would consider it, if the weather stays like this. (Or if i wanted to be in shape again.  plastic is good for that )
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uasunflower
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chrtur, i think they are arguing for the sake of arguing - and why not! I agree that seeing naked (or almost) men in the gym is probably the biggest attraction point there  In addition, mine has a slackline, and a chess board, and good snacks, and good people - so no beating that anywhere outside!
and i'm one of the usual gym rats since the start of my climbing career - so don't try to convince me - just there are people who unfortunately don't progress as quickly or as far as others - i accept the fact and have fun climbing instead of spending 5 days a week in the gym trying for that next ... (fill in your number there). I do understand the benefits of gym training, like any other training - but again, it's only training...
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uasunflower
Aug 16, 2007, 9:05 AM
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chrtur, now you are wrong - you should stay and go on the rocks to train your alpine skills!!!
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tisar
Aug 16, 2007, 9:18 AM
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uasunflower wrote: [...] seeing naked (or almost) men in the gym is probably the biggest attraction point there In addition, mine has a slackline [...]
Most girls would prefer a man with a not so slacky line
Isn't the whole discussion a bit pathetic? We all share a good part of our time in the gym - and I truly hope it's not just for the sake of training but because it's fun too! Damn, I enjoy those cold winter days I can spend in the gym, climbing slacklinign (my gym's got a highline!), having a coffee, Sauna and maybe a beer or two afterwards...
I just mourn because this effin summer refuses to be on duty. Is it too much to ask for a day or two dry enough to climb real rock - or at least whatever Berlin as in spare outdoors? My training level decreases constantly because I just don't feel like working out in a humid gym at 30°C. Sux big times, honestly. But september comes, comes holidays 
Have a nice one!
- Daniel
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stone_d_cologne
Aug 16, 2007, 11:04 AM
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hiking is such a good topic for this discussion...
so we all agree that outside is better than inside and the gym is for winter and the dutch, right?!
I think the point where we still shed the more alpine posse from the boulder-beanie-wearing plastic bunch is the motivation why we move our asses in the vertical.
for the traddie folks its the adventure of actually being outside and with the elements. for the mooovers (like petje for example) it doesn't matter where, it's rather what and how and the mooove.
if you take the average of both, you will get...
me.
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chrtur
Aug 16, 2007, 12:14 PM
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Stone, why be average, when you can be extraordinary
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petje
Aug 16, 2007, 2:34 PM
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And be trying that, you make yourself extraordinary! subtle my friend, subtle...
Oh yeah, i LOOOOOVE moving on rock!
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uasunflower
Aug 16, 2007, 3:01 PM
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try hard, stone
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chrtur
Aug 17, 2007, 1:31 PM
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stone_d_cologne wrote: being at the very top can be a lonesome game...sometimes.
Like when beeing only out on the rock, can also be lonesome time to time.... But how does your conclusion work if you only stick with the people you define as mediocre, what does it make you then?
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Aug 17, 2007, 3:05 PM
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chrtur wrote: stone_d_cologne wrote: being at the very top can be a lonesome game...sometimes. Like when beeing only out on the rock, can also be lonesome time to time.... But how does your conclusion work if you only stick with the people you define as mediocre, what does it make you then?
A showoff?
-F
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petje
Aug 17, 2007, 5:31 PM
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fenix83 wrote: chrtur wrote: stone_d_cologne wrote: being at the very top can be a lonesome game...sometimes. Like when beeing only out on the rock, can also be lonesome time to time.... But how does your conclusion work if you only stick with the people you define as mediocre, what does it make you then? A showoff? -F
ROFL!
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stone_d_cologne
Aug 20, 2007, 7:52 AM
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chrtur wrote: stone_d_cologne wrote: being at the very top can be a lonesome game...sometimes. ... But how does your conclusion work if you only stick with the people you define as mediocre, what does it make you then?
what I define as mediocre might be a very broad range.
this we I was stuck with uasunflower (chimney-wise ) which makes me quite special...
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. I was thinking of climbing the combination of Swiss and Sole mio as the next line in free style, but it is more snow up there then I thought 
